can a orthodox muslim believe that aliens exist out there

[Anyanglover]

the miracle working shaykh nazim haqqani al naqshabandi says they exist on other planets.but he's a outlier.

 

[Deleted member 18840]

Yes

 

[Deleted member 17791]

Does the Quran say there is no life outside Earth?

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

No rather there are verses i heard from people in Al Qur'an Al Majeed that says that there are creatures created by Allah that are unseen to mankind and he(ie Allah) has dispersed many beings in the heavens and the Earth. Actually Islam doesn't take a strong stance on aliens. So if the alien theory gets disproved or it gets confirmed 100% then the Muslims can happily agree with sceince as long as it's not a mere hypothesis with no strong evidence or clear Proofs!

Does the Quran say there is no life outside Earth?

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

then the Muslims can happily agree with sceince as long as it's not a mere hypothesis with no strong evidence or clear Proofs!

They're religious... agreeing with science was never part of the equation

 

[Deleted member 18494]

It’s something Islam does not answer, so he’s just a crazy philosopher trying to force everyone to believe what he believes.

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

They're religious... agreeing with science was never part of the equation

wht u sayin is False and untrue. Do u hv evidence for what u say?

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

wht u sayin is False and untrue. Do u hv evidence for what u say?

Let me find my old thread so I can shit in ur mouth 1 min

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

Let me find my old thread so I can shit in ur mouth 1 min

why r u so abu sive btw?

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

why r u so abu sive btw?

I just don't respect irrational animals sorry

From what you said you were obviously about to use the "you can't prove it's not real" tactic so here's my reply

This statement actually proves the atheist argument, its illogical to believe in something that not only hasn't been proven but also denies our understanding of physics. I can't prove the Easter bunny doesnt exists but that doesn't mean I should assume it does. While it's true absence of evidence isn't proof, we do have proof that raising the dead isn't possible or conceivable, especially when thousands of years of medical advances are not present. Believing that the Bible depicts true events rather than believing a group of people were manipulating the populations with tricks to adhere to socially beneficial moral values (easier to develop advancement when people aren't killing and stealing from one another) is just irrational and is the objectively wrong thing to believe. "You can't prove it doesn't exist" is not a fucking argument and if you use it ur going to hell.

Acknowledge the Easter bunny is equally as likely and I'll grant you a modicum of respect

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

And I was talking about Christians obviously but still applies close enough as I'd assume there's some supernatural phenomenon depicted in your god book

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

I just don't respect irrational animals sorry

From what you said you were obviously about to use the "you can't prove it's not real" tactic so here's my reply

This statement actually proves the atheist argument, its illogical to believe in something that not only hasn't been proven but also denies our understanding of physics. I can't prove the Easter bunny doesnt exists but that doesn't mean I should assume it does. While it's true absence of evidence isn't proof, we do have proof that raising the dead isn't possible or conceivable, especially when thousands of years of medical advances are not present. Believing that the Bible depicts true events rather than believing a group of people were manipulating the populations with tricks to adhere to socially beneficial moral values (easier to develop advancement when people aren't killing and stealing from one another) is just irrational and is the objectively wrong thing to believe. "You can't prove it doesn't exist" is not a fucking argument and if you use it ur going to hell.

Acknowledge the Easter bunny is equally as likely and I'll grand you a modicum of respect

look i didnt say that i am going to debate with u or something but wht i said was that Muslims can belive in existence of aliens as long as it's Scientifically proven that's it! And can u ans and reply to any of the scientific miracles of the QURAN? how can the Qur'an have so many historical and scientific Miracle? for example calling the ruler of Egypt as PHARAOH in the right time instead of using Pharaoh in Joseph's AS time!

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

You can't prove it doesn't exist" is not a fucking argument and if you use it ur going to hell.

where did i said this?

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

I just don't respect irrational animals sorry

From what you said you were obviously about to use the "you can't prove it's not real" tactic so here's my reply

This statement actually proves the atheist argument, its illogical to believe in something that not only hasn't been proven but also denies our understanding of physics. I can't prove the Easter bunny doesnt exists but that doesn't mean I should assume it does. While it's true absence of evidence isn't proof, we do have proof that raising the dead isn't possible or conceivable, especially when thousands of years of medical advances are not present. Believing that the Bible depicts true events rather than believing a group of people were manipulating the populations with tricks to adhere to socially beneficial moral values (easier to develop advancement when people aren't killing and stealing from one another) is just irrational and is the objectively wrong thing to believe. "You can't prove it doesn't exist" is not a fucking argument and if you use it ur going to hell.

Acknowledge the Easter bunny is equally as likely and I'll grant you a modicum of respect

i asked why r u so abusive to me for literally asking u a question politely?

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

look i didnt say that i am going to debate with u or something but wht i said was that Muslims can belive in existence of aliens as long as it's Scientifically proven that's it! And can u ans and reply to any of the scientific miracles of the QURAN? how can the Qur'an have so many historical and scientific Miracle? for example calling the ruler of Egypt as PHARAOH in the right time instead of using Pharaoh in Joseph's AS time!

I'm gonna assume you're trolling if this is really your response. Either that or you have a level of intelligence lower than any recorded human in history. I'll still entertain you because I have nothing better to do, "historical and scientific examples" a story from a book is so far from historic or scientific its absurd

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

i asked why r u so abusive to me for literally asking u a question politely?

Nigga telling someone I'm gonna shit in their mouth is not abusive, actually shitting in your mouth would be abusive but a retard monkey like you would probably like it. And you said "do you have evidence" which is literally the exact same thing I responded to. Fucking retard monkey ur not worth the time

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

I'm gonna assume you're trolling if this is really your response. Either that or you have a level of intelligence lower than any recorded human in history. I'll still entertain you because I have nothing better to do, "historical and scientific examples" a story from a book is so far from historic or scientific its absurd

THEN ANSWER ME THIS!!!​

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

Nigga telling someone I'm gonna shit in their mouth is not abusive, actually shitting in your mouth would be abusive but a retard monkey like you would probably like it. And you said "do you have evidence" which is literally the exact same thing I responded to. Fucking retard monkey ur not worth the time

dont u understand that By asking evidence i meant why we Muslims cannot learn science? leave this and ans what i posted in the vids and reply to me after watching them

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

THEN ANSWER ME THIS!!!​

Yeah the "in the Qur'an" part makes literally all of these the complete opposite of scientific proof. Stop being a retard and trying to prove your argument with unprovable stories from a fucking book

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

are

Yeah the "in the Qur'an" part makes literally all of these the complete opposite of scientific proof. Stop being a retard and trying to prove your argument with unprovable stories from a fucking book

are u an ignorant Imbecile? Then ans me how does the QURAN gets it correct? I can even paste some books here for u to read! But i dont know how to do it;

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

dont u understand that By asking evidence i meant why we Muslims cannot learn science? leave this and ans what i posted in the vids and reply to me after watching them

They don't believe in science, they believe in stories from a book it's not hard to understand. You can't just acknowledge some scientific concepts and not the rest you don't get to pick and choose. Make your choice, irrational retard, or science. Easy choice

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

They don't believe in science, they believe in stories from a book it's not hard to understand. You can't just acknowledge some scientific concepts and not the rest you don't get to pick and choose. Make your choice, irrational retard, or science. Easy choice

u didn't answer my question! and u r being unnecessarily abusive to me!!!

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

are

are u an ignorant Imbecile? Then ans me how does the QURAN gets it correct? I can even paste some books here for u to read! But i dont know how to do it;

I'm not watching 2 hours of video just to have my time wasted, you can tell me what "the quran got correct" in words or stfu.

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

I'm not watching 2 hours of video just to have my time wasted, you can tell me what "the quran got correct" in words or stfu.

watch the shorter ones of 60 seconds and the other one with 11 mins from Mohammed Hijab

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

watch the shorter ones of 60 seconds and the other one with 11 mins from Mohammed Hijab

Jesus this shitty site goes down every 5 minutes

So maybe I'm understanding this wrong but this is what I'm getting from this

The author said Abraham's followers worship Venus

And we then found confirmation that Abraham's followers worship Venus

How is this proof? Was the quran author not alive when Abraham was being followed, if so that kinda makes sense but ill still shit in ur mouth.

Why does knowing this information make the author of the quran supernatural.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

And I'm not watching an 11 minute video with a religious person talking the whole time that would be intellectual torture

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Also how can you believe in God while going on this site, what kind of cruel menace would subject us to being incels and such shitty genetics

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

I'm not watching 2 hours of video just to have my time wasted, you can tell me what "the quran got correct" in words or stfu.

stop being abusive u said: I'm not watching 2 hours of video just to have my time wasted, you can tell me what "the quran got correct" in words or stfu.

stop being abusive unnecessarily! U r intentionally don't want 2 know about Islam r8? There4 u are acting like this?

I'm not watching 2 hours of video just to have my time wasted, you can tell me what "the quran got correct" in words or stfu.

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

Jesus

why did u said Jesus? Arent u Atheist?

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

why did u said Jesus? Arent u Atheist?

I am astonished that this is a real human being, an actual living person who just said this unironically

Obviously there's no point arguing with someone this incredibly stupid

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

The author said Abraham's followers worship Venus

And we then found confirmation that Abraham's followers worship Venus

How is this proof? Was the quran author not alive when Abraham was being followed, if so that kinda makes sense but ill still shit in ur mouth.

Why does knowing this information make the author of the quran supernatural.

Nowhere in the Bible it is explicitly mentioned as mentioned in the Quran as a third celestial object which is Venus as the Celestial Object has been said in the Quran verse and can be interpreted as sayin that it set b4 the moon came which is why its the evening star(venus planet) And this was also deduced by Ibn Kathir one of the great interpreters of Quran who said in 9th Century AD (i guess) that It is Venus! Can anyone come so close to this? And wht abt Haman and Pharaoh? And why dont u want 2 know abt Islam? Why don't u want 2 get yrself Informed? Atleast watch the 11 mins vid!!!

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

I an astonished that this is a real human being, an actual living person who just said this unironically

Obviously there's no point arguing with someone this incredibly stupid

wht? why is this?

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

Also how can you believe in God while going on this site, what kind of cruel menace would subject us to being incels and such shitty genetics

Thats his will he provides to whomever he wills! This is A test! Remember that!

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Nowhere in the Bible it is explicitly mentioned as mentioned in the Quran as a third celestial object which is Venus as the Celestial Object has been said in the Quran verse and can be interpreted as sayin that it set b4 the moon came which is why its the evening star(venus planet) And this was also deduced by Ibn Kathir one of the great interpreters of Quran who said in 9th Century AD (i guess) that It is Venus! Can anyone come so close to this? And wht abt Haman and Pharaoh? And why dont u want 2 know abt Islam? Why don't u want 2 get yrself Informed? Atleast watch the 11 mins vid!!!

So he didn't even predict it or anything? He was just right, he knew Venus was being worshipped because he saw people worshipping it???

How the fuck is this proof

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

Also how can you believe in God while going on this site, what kind of cruel menace would subject us to being incels and such shitty genetics

Indeed u hv no rationality! Indeed God Allah Azzawajal has did everything for reasons!
Watch this!

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

So he didn't even predict it or anything? He was just right, he knew Venus was being worshipped because he saw people worshipping it???

How the fuck is this proof

Why r u avoidin sayin that the Quran is r8? The Quran mentioned that Abraham PBUH was rationalising abt the Worship of the Gods that the people of Ancient Babylon at his region used 2 worship there4 the Quran mentions abt the Incident abt how he pondered over it 2 come to the Conclusion abt the One True God(ie Allah) And No one Knew that Abraham's people used 2 worship Sun, Moon, Kawkab(which means a Celestial Object and is actually Venus as known by Ibn Kathir and can be understood from the Verse) until recently! and nowhere in the Bible this is Known that they worshipped Venus!!!

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

I honestly feel bad for you, I guess adhering to the rules of the Quran is a good thing and positive. But being such a delusional sheep who is incapable of thinking for themselves as a result of religious conditioning during their upbringing is sad asf and makes me hate religious people even more to think that your parents would do something so terrible to you.

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

Kawkab

This is Arabic Word for Celestial Object

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

I honestly feel bad for you, I guess adhering to the rules of the Quran is a good thing and positive. But being such a delusional sheep who is incapable of thinking for themselves as a result of religious conditioning during their upbringing is sad asf and makes me hate religious people even more to think that your parents would do something so terrible to you.

can u ans wht i asked and written? How can A Illiterate man know abt those things 1400 yrs ago?

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Why r u avoidin sayin that the Quran is r8? The Quran mentioned that Abraham PBUH was rationalising abt the Worship of the Gods that the people of Ancient Babylon at his region used 2 worship there4 the Quran mentions abt the Incident abt how he pondered over it 2 come to the Conclusion abt the One True God(ie Allah) And No one Knew that Abraham's people used 2 worship Sun, Moon, Kawkab(which means a Celestial Object and is actually Venus as known by Ibn Kathir and can be understood from the Verse) until recently! and nowhere in the Bible this is Known that they worshipped Venus!!!

So hard to read these fucking braindead paragraphs, it's not just a language barrier either, being religious has degraded your sense of logic and rational thought. Good luck bro I hope you wake up one day

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

So hard to read these fucking braindead paragraphs, it's not just a language barrier either, being religious has degraded your sense of logic and rational thought. Good luck bro I hope you wake up one day

Thanks for xposing yrself for not Readin and Gaining Knowledge abt Islam and Givin Such idiotic Excuses!

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

can u ans wht i asked and written? How can A Illiterate man know abt those things 1400 yrs ago?

Are you talking about the Quran author, you're telling me the author of the religious doctrine by which you live your life by was illiterate

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

can mean Planet too!

This is Arabic Word for Celestial Object

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Thanks for xposing yrself for not Readin and Gaining Knowledge abt Islam and Givin Such idiotic Excuses!

You use proper punctuation but don't even try with the spelling...

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

Are you talking about the Quran author, you're telling me the author of the religious doctrine by which you live your life by was illiterate

He ie Prophet MUHAMMAD SAW WAS ILLITERATE! dont u know that? And the Author of the Quran is Allah the Lord of All that Exists! And if u assume that Prophet Muhammad SAW was the Actual author of the Quran and he SAW justz Lied 2 gain popularity then how come this Quran has no Mistakes and has so many Miracles?

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

wh

You use proper punctuation but don't even try with the spelling...

which spellin? Why should one care abt Spellin if it saves time not 2 care abt it and the Other person who's reading can almost make out wht i am conveying!

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

He ie Prophet MUHAMMAD SAW WAS ILLITERATE! dont u know that? And the Author of the Quran is Allah the Lord of All that Exists! And if u assume that Prophet Muhammad SAW was the Actual author of the Quran and he SAW justz Lied 2 gain popularity then how come this Quran has no Mistakes and has so many Miracles?

Ok dude this is literally fucking unreadable the other ones could be deciphered but I'm tapping out here sorry.

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

@zv1212 ok Kafir. HERE's my last message to u::::

﴿١٠٩ الـكافرون ﴾ بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَٰنِ الرَّحِيمِ
﴿١﴾ قُلْ يَا أَيُّهَا الْكَافِرُونَ
﴿٢﴾ لَا أَعْبُدُ مَا تَعْبُدُونَ
﴿٣﴾ وَلَا أَنْتُمْ عَابِدُونَ مَا أَعْبُدُ
﴿٤﴾ وَلَا أَنَا عَابِدٌ مَا عَبَدْتُمْ
﴿٥﴾ وَلَا أَنْتُمْ عَابِدُونَ مَا أَعْبُدُ
﴿٦﴾ لَكُمْ دِينُكُمْ وَلِيَ دِينِ
[Quran 109:0] In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.
1. Say[O PROPHET MUHAMMAD AND THE MUSLIMS] , “O disbelievers.
2. I do not worship what you worship.
3. Nor do you worship what I worship.
4. Nor do I serve what you serve.
5. Nor do you serve what I serve.
6. To you your religion, and to me my religion.”
https://www.corequran.com/109#0

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

@Anyanglover take care of Kafirs in ur threads next time bro! Salam Alaikum brother! look at the Kafir here in this thread with the name @zv1212

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

@zv1212 ok Kafir. HERE's my last message to u::::

﴿١٠٩ الـكافرون ﴾ بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَٰنِ الرَّحِيمِ
﴿١﴾ قُلْ يَا أَيُّهَا الْكَافِرُونَ
﴿٢﴾ لَا أَعْبُدُ مَا تَعْبُدُونَ
﴿٣﴾ وَلَا أَنْتُمْ عَابِدُونَ مَا أَعْبُدُ
﴿٤﴾ وَلَا أَنَا عَابِدٌ مَا عَبَدْتُمْ
﴿٥﴾ وَلَا أَنْتُمْ عَابِدُونَ مَا أَعْبُدُ
﴿٦﴾ لَكُمْ دِينُكُمْ وَلِيَ دِينِ
[Quran 109:0] In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.
1. Say[O PROPHET MUHAMMAD AND THE MUSLIMS] , “O disbelievers.
2. I do not worship what you worship.
3. Nor do you worship what I worship.
4. Nor do I serve what you serve.
5. Nor do you serve what I serve.
6. To you your religion, and to me my religion.”
https://www.corequran.com/109#0

You believe in a dumbass book written thousands of years ago and I believe in science. I know that already dude