I’m very suspicious because that’s the same thing my ortho told me. I think it’s better just to not wear elastics.
He’s still gonna push your maxilla backwards but he’s telling you that he’s merely bringing your lower jaw forward because he thinks there wont be any way for you to tell, don’t see him again, no retraction orthodontics!
but he told me he Will not pull my maxilla back
your right my bad bro, yeah give him your shekels i suppose
It’s funny how all these orthos say the same thing when we have concerns, evil fucks! Do you reckon just having braces without elastics will recess anything or no ?
depends if your jaws and palate are already good, if they are then just braces won’t harm but if you get braces while having small palate and misaligned jaw your gonna waste your time cuz you’ll eventually have to fix what i mentioned and then get braces again
I have braces on the upper teeth without elastics since march but nothing changed on my side profile
Yes my palate is small, and my ortho is telling me ridiculous things. He said if I want to expand my palate he will need to extract teeth. Sounds very counter-intuitive. Jaws have decent forward growth though.
run while you can, he’s gonna cuck you if you listen to him
btw idk if it's with elastics because my mum went to talk to him as I wasn't at home and She said She doesn't Remember well what he said
and he’s gonna pay thousands for it probably, many such cases
I’m stopping treatment. Hopefully he hasn’t done too much damage because my palate actually seems smaller than before treatment. Terrible waste of money and time. How can I go about finding an ortho or maxfac who cares about aesthetics ?
looksmax.org
your maxilla is good just lower jaw needs moving forward, get bsso or imdo@pashtun look in this thread i posted my side profile if you scroll a bit, I know im very recessed, but di you think my maxilla Is fine?When do you think that a gonial Angle Is too High that you should get bimax?
Like over 130°??
you think genioplasty could be good or not
to like straighten them?
depends where you live but just tell them that you have breathing airway problems and crowded teeth and tell them you want referral to get opinion from a maxfac and make sure they know all about mse bane fme etc…
Yes that’s exactly what I’m going to do, breathing seems to have gotten worse with these braces as well. I live in the UK. Hopefully I can find some good maxfacs otherwise I need to go to Italy or Switzerland
I know, I'm saying I have to tell him to straighten them if i want to do surgery? because he already straighten my upper ones so I would only Need the lower ones then i can get surgery
@pashtun Sorry if im bothering you but what do you think
so like if i would like to get surgery I have to go out with shit teeth for months before i actually get surgery, like if he pulls my upper teeth forward i Will look even more recessed
my God that's depressing as fuck, like how can I go to school with even a worse side profile I wouldn't even look human. I don't think I'm gonna do It at this point, I'll Just get genioplastyThat's precisely it.
You'll look more subhuman before the surgery. That's also my fate as well
At least we got masks.
no Bro I don't think I can do It, I already got body dysmorphia about my side profile if It Will get even worse I don't think I'll be able to go out from home, like I've got school and all
Think long term. Jaw surgery will fix your profile either way.
I know Bro but im in my best Years, I don't wanna waste them, and btw some people told me I would even be fine with only genioplasty
but I don't know much about this
I'm getting retraction braces with 4 extractions
If you get that, it’s over. Maxilla will be retracted.
i would suggest to you to don't do It but it's your choice
That's my goal I have bimax protrusion so no other option plus my ramus is pre good so slight retraction there is fine and if it fails oh well either way it's over
What if I have bimaxillary protrusion
oh then i don't know much about that so ask someone that's expert about that
I have researched this shit for like a year expander is cope for me and surgery is overkill this is the only way unfortunately.
like can you show me how your side profile looks like Just for curiosity
will it create problems if i do that and then want to get surgery?
I don’t know why you’re fucking about moving teeth in the first place, don’t do it and get BSSO
thank you I was saying that because my mom already paid for the ortho so I wouldnt want her to waste Money . In this thread if you scroll I posted my jaw, do you think i could be fine with genioplasty or Need bsso/bimax https://looksmax.org/threads/when-d...is-too-high-that-you-should-get-bimax.750946/
