Can eye procedures be undone? (if it looks uncanny/bad afterwards)

[newperson]

procedures like canthoplasty, Lower eyelid retraction / something like that.

after all these are not involved with bones, and they are temporary but for years,

so my question is if there is a way back sooner than years if it looks bad

 

[Deleted member 16133]

Most of them yeah, medial lacrimalplasty with assisted z-plasty is near impossible to revert
but canthoplasty yes, they can re attach the lateral canthal tendon back onto the lateral orbital bone if you don't like the degree of postive canthal tilt you've attained, and for lower lid retraction? it's a bit more difficult,

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3819113/

It is possible, but each case is different.

This shouldn't even be a question you have to ask, you get a good, reputable doctor, not Taban, not Vrcek, someone like Douglas, Pagnoni who is actually blackpilled and is good with eyes, someone who is humble, not a celebrity doctor. You need to find a surgeon that is there to work for you, listen, and help achieve your goals. You need one who has an eye for aesthetics, not just to make money.
You only get two pairs of eyes, and they are the window to the soul. The last thing you want is a botched eye surgery, I repeat, it is the last thing you want. THEY HAVE TO BE PERFECT THE FIRST TIME AROUND TO PREVENT FUTURE SCARRING FROM THE CONSEQUENTIAL REPAIRMENT PROCEDURES!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Deleted member 20781]

Most of them yeah, medial lacrimalplasty with assisted z-plasty is near impossible to revert
but canthoplasty yes, they can re attach the lateral canthal tendon back onto the lateral orbital bone if you don't like the degree of postive canthal tilt you've attained, and for lower lid retraction? it's a bit more difficult,

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3819113/

It is possible, but each case is different.

This shouldn't even be a question you have to ask, you get a good, reputable doctor, not Taban, not Vrcek, someone like Douglas, Pagnoni who is actually blackpilled and is good with eyes, someone who is humble, not a celebrity doctor. You need to find a surgeon that is there to work for you, listen, and help achieve your goals. You need one who has an eye for aesthetics, not just to make money.
You only get two pairs of eyes, and they are the window to the soul. The last thing you want is a botched eye surgery, I repeat, it is the last thing you want. THEY HAVE TO BE PERFECT THE FIRST TIME AROUND TO PREVENT FUTURE SCARRING FROM THE CONSEQUENTIAL REPAIRMENT PROCEDURES!!!!!!!!!!

Whats wrong with taban isn't he considered the best? Who is douglas?

 

[Deleted member 16133]

Whats wrong with taban isn't he considered the best? Who is douglas?

no tabans results are underwhelming af and he sucks ass he didn't even listen to me or amnesia during our consultation he's a bastard and has no aesthetic taste neither does his protege vrcek
raymond douglas way better but pagnoni mogs ultimately

 

[Deleted member 22623]

no tabans results are underwhelming af and he sucks ass he didn't even listen to me or amnesia during our consultation he's a bastard and has no aesthetic taste neither does his protege vrcek
raymond douglas way better but pagnoni mogs ultimately

I get pagnoni, but wtf is giant implants.. I'm too bluecel..

This shit?? https://instagram.com/giant.implants?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

 

[Deleted member 1851]

Most of them yeah, medial lacrimalplasty with assisted z-plasty is near impossible to revert
but canthoplasty yes, they can re attach the lateral canthal tendon back onto the lateral orbital bone if you don't like the degree of postive canthal tilt you've attained, and for lower lid retraction? it's a bit more difficult,

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3819113/

It is possible, but each case is different.

This shouldn't even be a question you have to ask, you get a good, reputable doctor, not Taban, not Vrcek, someone like Douglas, Pagnoni who is actually blackpilled and is good with eyes, someone who is humble, not a celebrity doctor. You need to find a surgeon that is there to work for you, listen, and help achieve your goals. You need one who has an eye for aesthetics, not just to make money.
You only get two pairs of eyes, and they are the window to the soul. The last thing you want is a botched eye surgery, I repeat, it is the last thing you want. THEY HAVE TO BE PERFECT THE FIRST TIME AROUND TO PREVENT FUTURE SCARRING FROM THE CONSEQUENTIAL REPAIRMENT PROCEDURES!!!!!!!!!!

genius

 

[Deleted member 20781]

no tabans results are underwhelming af and he sucks ass he didn't even listen to me or amnesia during our consultation he's a bastard and has no aesthetic taste neither does his protege vrcek
raymond douglas way better but pagnoni mogs ultimately

I checked out douglas website but the results look pretty generic there are only a few before and after photos. Are there any places where there are really good results by him or how did you find out that he's a really good surgeon

 

[mvp2v1]

genius

unironically imo

@curlyheadjames do you know if any of them to bone born eye area procedures?

 

[sprucey]

no tabans results are underwhelming af and he sucks ass he didn't even listen to me or amnesia during our consultation he's a bastard and has no aesthetic taste neither does his protege vrcek
raymond douglas way better but pagnoni mogs ultimately

was it vrceks canthoplasty on @Titbot that made you change your mind about him? I know at some point in the past you liked him

 

[Deleted member 16133]

was it vrceks canthoplasty on @Titbot that made you change your mind about him? I know at some point in the past you liked him

thanks for buying my gig
also yeah i used to like vrcek but let's be real vrcek never really had great results looking on his instagram he's a specialist in blepharoplasty if that's what you're into but he mainly operates on a bunch of old women who don't know shit about aesthetics and i only saw one canthoplasty result on his instagram page and it was shit i just wanted to go to him in the past since he was in the area but it's better to travel and go to a cheaper doctor w better results than to pay for vrcek twice as much for a botched canthoplasty

 

[Deleted member 16133]

I get pagnoni, but wtf is giant implants.. I'm too bluecel..

This shit?? https://instagram.com/giant.implants?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

yeah you just go to a local imaging center and get a CT scan and then you send the file to giant and he designs a nice implant he designed infra orbital malar and supra orbital implants for my friend and now he has hunter eyes CBCT scans from the local orthodontist works as well once giant creates the design and u approve of it it's sent to pagnoni and to a manufacturer to create the implant and then the surgeon gets it 8-10 weeks later and then you get your new bones

 

[Deleted member 16133]

I checked out douglas website but the results look pretty generic there are only a few before and after photos. Are there any places where there are really good results by him or how did you find out that he's a really good surgeon

he's probably the best in CA for orbital decomp but i haven't seen one american surgeon that can properly do a canthoplasty or lower lid retraction you gotta go foreign for that american surgeons are bluepilled as fuck and that raymound douglas charges 10k+ unlike iranian or turkish surgeons who only charge 3k for cantho it's bullshit

 

[Deleted member 22623]

yeah you just go to a local imaging center and get a CT scan and then you send the file to giant and he designs a nice implant he designed infra orbital malar and supra orbital implants for my friend and now he has hunter eyes CBCT scans from the local orthodontist works as well once giant creates the design and u approve of it it's sent to pagnoni and to a manufacturer to create the implant and then the surgeon gets it 8-10 weeks later and then you get your new bones

Lifefuel.. and pagnoni is good both for zygo and orbital implants??

 

[Deleted member 16133]

Lifefuel.. and pagnoni is good both for zygo and orbital implants??

he good foe reverything

 

[madcap88]

@curlyheadjames is so right about US surgeons being bluepilled.

Everyone here is looking to looksmax. No one is happy with being a normie. US Surgeons (also because of their age) dont understand the social demands and standards of looks nowadays. They will not push your looks where they need to be, and they dont have the eye for that

 

[Titbot]

Most of them yeah, medial lacrimalplasty with assisted z-plasty is near impossible to revert
but canthoplasty yes, they can re attach the lateral canthal tendon back onto the lateral orbital bone if you don't like the degree of postive canthal tilt you've attained, and for lower lid retraction? it's a bit more difficult,

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3819113/

It is possible, but each case is different.

This shouldn't even be a question you have to ask, you get a good, reputable doctor, not Taban, not Vrcek, someone like Douglas, Pagnoni who is actually blackpilled and is good with eyes, someone who is humble, not a celebrity doctor. You need to find a surgeon that is there to work for you, listen, and help achieve your goals. You need one who has an eye for aesthetics, not just to make money.
You only get two pairs of eyes, and they are the window to the soul. The last thing you want is a botched eye surgery, I repeat, it is the last thing you want. THEY HAVE TO BE PERFECT THE FIRST TIME AROUND TO PREVENT FUTURE SCARRING FROM THE CONSEQUENTIAL REPAIRMENT PROCEDURES!!!!!!!!!!

I wanna do z plasty. I have a femenine medial canthus

 

[Titbot]

thanks for buying my gig
also yeah i used to like vrcek but let's be real vrcek never really had great results looking on his instagram he's a specialist in blepharoplasty if that's what you're into but he mainly operates on a bunch of old women who don't know shit about aesthetics and i only saw one canthoplasty result on his instagram page and it was shit i just wanted to go to him in the past since he was in the area but it's better to travel and go to a cheaper doctor w better results than to pay for vrcek twice as much for a botched canthoplasty

Fuck you ascended you are so pilled. We need to talk sometime. Do you have an IG

 

[sprucey]

Fuck you ascended you are so pilled. We need to talk sometime. Do you have an IG

hey I had a few questions for you, how do I go about getting in contact with you

 

[Deleted member 16133]

@curlyheadjames is so right about US surgeons being bluepilled.

Everyone here is looking to looksmax. No one is happy with being a normie. US Surgeons (also because of their age) dont understand the social demands and standards of looks nowadays. They will not push your looks where they need to be, and they dont have the eye for that

always go foreign

I wanna do z plasty. I have a femenine medial canthus

Fuck you ascended you are so pilled. We need to talk sometime. Do you have an IG

yes @therealjamessapphire or @chjames111 do it on the second one bc i am banned for 7 days on my main and they have been posting videos of u on a instagram group chat iwill add u if u send msg request

hey I had a few questions for you, how do I go about getting in contact with you

i think you can send dms on here titbot is the best person to talk to for eye surgeries

 

[Deleted member 16133]

I wanna do z plasty. I have a femenine medial canthus

I don't know how they would go about altering your medial canthus to look more masculine, you could possibly do a reverse medial lacrimalplasty (My own technique i developed and patent is pending) and you could get a shorter medial canthus if you don't like the hunter elongated look like most tiktok prettyboys don't have hunter eyes with you it's just hard for z plasty since it's medical and mainly used for intra medial canthal webbing and for freak accidents that's why i am going to be the first to create the cosmetic medial canthi surgery

 

[sprucey]

always go foreign


yes @therealjamessapphire or @chjames111 do it on the second one bc i am banned for 7 days on my main and they have been posting videos of u on a instagram group chat iwill add u if u send msg request

i think you can send dms on here titbot is the best person to talk to for eye surgeries

I'm pretty tech savvy but I can't find out for the life of me how to private message someone on here. I might just be too new of an account to do it

 

[Deleted member 16133]

I'm pretty tech savvy but I can't find out for the life of me how to private message someone on here. I might just be too new of an account to do it

u need to post more

 

[sprucey]

u need to post more

Figured, thanks mate

 

[agoostis]

Most of them yeah, medial lacrimalplasty with assisted z-plasty is near impossible to revert
but canthoplasty yes, they can re attach the lateral canthal tendon back onto the lateral orbital bone if you don't like the degree of postive canthal tilt you've attained, and for lower lid retraction? it's a bit more difficult,

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3819113/

It is possible, but each case is different.

This shouldn't even be a question you have to ask, you get a good, reputable doctor, not Taban, not Vrcek, someone like Douglas, Pagnoni who is actually blackpilled and is good with eyes, someone who is humble, not a celebrity doctor. You need to find a surgeon that is there to work for you, listen, and help achieve your goals. You need one who has an eye for aesthetics, not just to make money.
You only get two pairs of eyes, and they are the window to the soul. The last thing you want is a botched eye surgery, I repeat, it is the last thing you want. THEY HAVE TO BE PERFECT THE FIRST TIME AROUND TO PREVENT FUTURE SCARRING FROM THE CONSEQUENTIAL REPAIRMENT PROCEDURES!!!!!!!!!!

what abt him

Dr. Emir Doğan / Ophthalmologist (@dr.emir_dogan) • Instagram photos and videos

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[Deleted member 16133]

what abt him

Dr. Emir Doğan / Ophthalmologist (@dr.emir_dogan) • Instagram photos and videos

instagram.com

solid results to gaymaxx i mean he made this dudes eyes prettyboy tier i think it's just the lips

 

[madcap88]

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solid results to gaymaxx i mean he made this dudes eyes pretty boy tier i think it's just the lipsa

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solid results to gaymaxx i mean he made this dudes eyes prettyboy tier i think it's just the lips

Any other surgeons with male results??

 

[Deleted member 16133]

Any other surgeons with male results??

no jfl most men are doing muh jawline surgeries only women care about eyes
ofc there will be few male results with every good oculoplastician but it'll mostly be women since the trend is now for women
"fox eyes' and for men it is "chad jawline"