Can I achieve this without steroids?(with sarms and HGH)

[Chad69]

Just with SARMS and other growth hormones?Also I will mega dose on copes like weight gainers and creatine even tho they are placiebo 90% of the time


He claims to be natural JFL

 

[BLACKED]

Depends, you a cracka? If yes then no.

 

[Deleted member 5081]

sad truth is no, he took roids and now sells supplements with his image and lying about claiming natty helps sales

 

[Deleted member 5393]

STAY NATTY, SON.

 

[Chad69]

sad truth is no, he took roids and now sells supplements with his image and lying about claiming natty helps sales

Soo even sarms and growth hormones can replace roids?

 

[Deleted member 3702]

With creatine and soy protein you can

 

[Chad69]

With creatine and soy protein you can

Soo,not even hardcore samrs like Yk-11 and rad-140 can replace roids?

 

[Deleted member 5187]

Virgin piss is pure gains

 

[Chad69]

Any high iq replys?

 

[Deleted member 4310]

Gymcelling has a limit, yes body halo is legit but it's diminishing returns after you got a decent body.

 

[Deleted member 5187]

I looked great after 8 months of training at 17 yr imo

 

[Deleted member 5081]

Soo even sarms and growth hormones can replace roids?

they still hack your body's function to unnatural states

 

[Deleted member 3702]

Soo,not even hardcore samrs like Yk-11 and rad-140 can replace roids?

Even if it work you are too young man

 

[Deleted member 3795]

Depends, you a cracka? If yes then no.

 

[BLACKED]

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Black king.

 

[Deleted member 5912]

Any high iq replys?

dude why do you care so much on body?

 

[Chad69]

dude why do you care so much on body?

All those videos on YouTube made me soo desperate for body.Just search on youtube: David Laids natural transformation and you will get what Iam talking about

 

[Deleted member 5912]

All those videos on YouTube made me soo desperate for body.Just search on youtube: David Laids natural transformation and you will get what Iam talking about

yeah I know this dude
he for sure juiced

 

[Chad69]

yeah I know this dude
he for sure juiced

100%
All those ,,natural’’ transformations are indeed fake as hell

 

[Deleted member 5912]

100%
All those ,,natural’’ transformations are indeed fake as hell

im checking his videos
mirin his physique

 

[bruh3610]

Avoid sarms and gear, just use hgh and peptides

 

[Deleted member 4053]

You can't ask a question like this without excluding dozens of variables that could affect outcome/answer to your question. The best way to find an accurate answer to your question is to first find your natural limit, and then you can move on to steroids if you feel like it. However, the image you have in your mind that would be achieved through steroids is not one that can be maintained. Besides having being to be a gymrat on the verge of being admitted into a psych ward, gains from steroids never stay 100%. Not worth the time and effort to get a physique like Oliver Forslin's, as long as you have lean muscle and low body fat you are good. Also, why would you want to get this ripped as a manlet? If anything it makes you look less intimidating.

 

[Deleted member 5927]

Creatine and weight gainer is pure cope don't eat that shit. Weight gainers are expensive, and 90% carbs and sugar. You'd better be off just eating rice for the carbs and it will likely just make you fat. Creatine just makes you hold water. I will never take creatine I'm not trying to look like a bloated face faggot. Also if you are prone to balding it's shown to accelerate the balding process apparently.

 

[NorwoodMilitant]

just eat all natty duck eggs and you will be big like me bro

 

[Chad69]

Bump

 

[StressShady]

Just with SARMS and other growth hormones?Also I will mega dose on copes like weight gainers and creatine even tho they are placiebo 90% of the time


He claims to be natural JFL

mirin face gains

 

[Incoming]

No. You’re 15 ffs and you’re 5’7 which means it should be easy for you to pack on muscle compared to someone who is taller

 

[Deleted member 4209]

not possible natural.

 

[Chad69]

not possible natural.

I know
But can I achieve that with sarms?

 

[Deleted member 4209]

I know
But can I achieve that with sarms?

probably but the question is why are you using sarms when, to achieve that look, you will need to take amounts that are suppressive anyway and cost more than roids. ppl use sarms for short periods of time in small doses because they are minimally suppressive. you would need to blast year round in doses 3-4 times what regular users use to achieve that look. at that point you should just go on real gear.

 

[Piro]

Soo,not even hardcore samrs like Yk-11 and rad-140 can replace roids?

No.
YK-11 is a myostatin inhibitor but it's almost a cope SARM, that's because unless you're big enough where myostatin is limiting your gains, you can do better without it.

Rad is a potent SARM, it's dry so you'll put a bit of mass but not enough to have that "wow" effect, it's more of a recomp-compound

LGD would help gaining size but as all sarms is suppressive, you'd have a better result using a test base.

IIRC you're like 15-16, if you want to end up in TRT (which this guy is, probably he's blasting and cruising) go ahead.

You're too young to suppress your hpta and too naive to know how to mitigate sides.


HGH might be beneficial (mk677 + peptides cope could be helpful too) but it's kinda overrated.

I'm not advocating for you to stay natural, I'm just saying that you're gonna have more sides than gains.

 

[Chad69]

No.
YK-11 is a myostatin inhibitor but it's almost a cope SARM, that's because unless you're big enough where myostatin is limiting your gains, you can do better without it.

Rad is a potent SARM, it's dry so you'll put a bit of mass but not enough to have that "wow" effect, it's more of a recomp-compound

LGD would help gaining size but as all sarms is suppressive, you'd have a better result using a test base.

IIRC you're like 15-16, if you want to end up in TRT (which this guy is, probably he's blasting and cruising) go ahead.

You're too young to suppress your hpta and too naive to know how to mitigate sides.


HGH might be beneficial (mk677 + peptides cope could be helpful too) but it's kinda overrated.

I'm not advocating for you to stay natural, I'm just saying that you're gonna have more sides than gains.

Well,I dont want to shut down my natural T with steroids
What about low dosages of LGD-4033 like 6mg?
I wont to avoid shut downing my natural T,and to avoid possible suppression,even if suppression occurs I will use PCT or somethings
Should I rather use very low test dosages?

 

[Framletgod]

no you wont look like that even with sarms and hgh

guy is probably on test deca and maybe dianabol

 

[Germania]

Probably no, with very good genes maybe yes. His body is not much better than mine as a natty, but it took me more than 3 years.

 

[Piro]

Well,I dont want to shut down my natural T with steroids
What about low dosages of LGD-4033 like 6mg?
I wont to avoid shut downing my natural T,and to avoid possible suppression,even if suppression occurs I will use PCT or somethings
Should I rather use very low test dosages?

You should wait unless you want to stay in trt forever.

For each steroid (sarms too) cycle you'll progressively lose a bit of your natural test production even if you follow a perfect PCT each time
(Just go on r/steroids and ask if you don't believe me, if I'm not mistaken even Derek from MPMD said it.)

This means you should stay natural as much as you can (usually 21-23 yo), then your T levels will decline (about 1% year), so blasting or even being in trt would be beneficial.

Low doses of test or sarms are still suppressive, I do not recommend them at all specially if you're young and haven't reached your potential yet.

I know you wanna look like him, but I'm sorry either you accept the trt life or follow a natural path.

Even 1mg of LGD has a suppression risk, you may recover but you may not recover totally.

 

[Cares]

You need to be roiding. SARMS won’t do it. Also once you stop roiding you will lose size and leanness if you surpassed your genetic limit. You need higher testosterone to hold on to tissue that exceeded your genetic limit. That’s why most guys run testosterone year round as it helps you hold on to the new tissue because your natural testosterone levels aren’t high enough.

Don’t think one cycle will do it either.

 

[je3oe]

creatine even tho they are placiebo 90% of the time

creatine works

 

[Deleted member 3635]

Just with SARMS and other growth hormones?Also I will mega dose on copes like weight gainers and creatine even tho they are placiebo 90% of the time


He claims to be natural JFL

Depends on your genetics but 99 percent of us will not get that big with just sarms , id say if ur skinny go on a bulk with mk677 and LGD then cut with osterine 8 weeks on 8 weeks off

 

[Deleted member 5973]

Just with SARMS and other growth hormones?Also I will mega dose on copes like weight gainers and creatine even tho they are placiebo 90% of the time


He claims to be natural JFL

this dude completely ruined his hormonal profile by roiding before finishing puberty, he probably stunted his growth along the way.
he'll regret it sooner or later jfl.

 

[Lars2210]

PCT is literally the biggest joke in the bodybuilding world
Your body is an investment so unless you’re making bank off of it or u are certain ur gonna be well off don’t jump on steroids cause TRT is a life-time cost like an electricity bill

 

[CrazyFitLover]

Probably no, with very good genes maybe yes. His body is not much better than mine as a natty, but it took me more than 3 years.

same here, not his size but very decent looking, that size is not event nececery, it is even pointless, when you have lot's of muscle, you need to maintain it eating five six times a day, sleep at same time and wake up at same time everyday, after a while it gets so fucking boring.
all this guys thinking steroids will do easy job for them are deluded lol. girls will choose natural 170lbs chad any day over 200lbs normie