can i take anabolic steroids at 16

[Raf_slv10]

if i take anabolic steroids what sides effects on my puberty it will have. It will close my clavicles grow plates?my facial bones will stop growing ?

 

[dragomog]

yuh
im 15 on them

 

[Raf_slv10]

yuh
im 15 on them

mirin but you dont answer the questions man

 

[dragomog]

mirin but you dont answer the questions man

idk about growth plates

but facial bones will keep growing

my browridge and zygo grew in 15 weeks

 

[Raf_slv10]

do you know

idk about growth plates

but facial bones will keep growing

my browridge and zygo grew in 15 weeks

for clavicles ? and what is your cycle

 

[dragomog]

do you know

for clavicles ? and what is your cycle

no idea for clavicles if ur 16 they are done growing anyway

cycle: good ol 500 test

 

[hsstar]

if i take anabolic steroids what sides effects on my puberty it will have. It will close my clavicles grow plates?my facial bones will stop growing ?

estrogen is the main driver behind growth plate fusion

use an aromatase inhibitor, it blocks testosterone from converting to estrogen

 

[Raf_slv10]

no idea for clavicles if ur 16 they are done growing anyway

cycle: good ol 500 test

any gains ? likes messages pls

 

[dragomog]

any gains ? likes messages pls

went from 70kg to 84 now cutted down to 80 and retained the muscle
bench from 80kg to 120kg

 

[Raf_slv10]

estrogen is the main driver behind growth plate fusion

use an aromatase inhibitor, it blocks testosterone from converting to estrogen

test play a very big role on growth plate fusion

 

[AtrophicPyra]

if i take anabolic steroids what sides effects on my puberty it will have. It will close my clavicles grow plates?my facial bones will stop growing ?

Take everything and anythingn

 

[hsstar]

test play a very big role on growth plate fusion

yes, plays a role by converting to e2 and fusing growth plates

aromatase inhibitors block conversion to e2

 

[hsstar]

test play a very big role on growth plate fusion

estrogen is the main driver behind growth plate fusion. boys with e2 defficiency grow in height till their mid-20s

 

[_Nazareth_]

if i take anabolic steroids what sides effects on my puberty it will have. It will close my clavicles grow plates?my facial bones will stop growing ?

DYOR there’s tons of info just on this forum alone

 

[hopefulllarp]

B

if i take anabolic steroids what sides effects on my puberty it will have. It will close my clavicles grow plates?my facial bones will stop growing ?

Bro who told you that shit "It will close my clavicles grow plates?my facial bones will stop growing"
Just do Tren and youll be fine ask fucking AI how it works but nothing what you said was any kind of true

 

[Raf_slv10]

B

Bro who told you that shit "It will close my clavicles grow plates?my facial bones will stop growing"
Just do Tren and youll be fine ask fucking AI how it works but nothing what you said was any kind of true

ok bro pls help, you sure it will not close my clavicles plates and my facials bones? do you do a cure in your life ?

 

[v8sandweights]

estrogen is the main driver behind growth plate fusion

use an aromatase inhibitor, it blocks testosterone from converting to estrogen

not true androgens accelerate closure so much even without the aromatisation. And ai isnt stopping local aromatisation

if op is cool with closing his plates if they r open still he should hop on tho, great for dimo and frame at that age. Else just run hgh and an ai if u have open plates, which is what im doing. more expensive but just as good, if not better, for dimo and frame and also could get taller

 

[Raf_slv10]

not true androgens accelerate closure so much even without the aromatisation. And ai isnt stopping local aromatisation

if op is cool with closing his plates if they r open still he should hop on tho, great for dimo and frame at that age. Else just run hgh and an ai if u have open plates, which is what im doing. more expensive but just as good, if not better, for dimo and frame and also could get taller

my groth plates are opens what have i to take man pls help

 

[v8sandweights]

my groth plates are opens what have i to take man pls help

i said in the post u replied bruh

if u dont want ur plates to close prematurely then dont even go near androgens for now, save that for when ur done growing. Im lucky/unlucky in that im 18.5y old and have open plates still, thus not pinning androgens yet to not cause premature closure but it does kinda suck id love to be on some var and test rn - i already have them at home w me

Right now all u need to run is hgh and an ai, im personally on 12ius hgh and 2.5 letrozole

 

[Raf_slv10]

i said in the post u replied bruh

if u dont want ur plates to close prematurely then dont even go near androgens for now, save that for when ur done growing. Im lucky/unlucky in that im 18.5y old and have open plates still, thus not pinning androgens yet to not cause premature closure but it does kinda suck id love to be on some var and test rn - i already have them at home w me

Right now all u need to run is hgh and an ai, im personally on 12ius hgh and 2.5 letrozole

where do you bought it , i wanted to buy on driadashop but its not the best

 

[hopefulllarp]

ok bro pls help, you sure it will not close my clavicles plates and my facials bones? do you do a cure in your life ?

Wtf do you mean with cure in your life

 

[for3vrchad]

if i take anabolic steroids what sides effects on my puberty it will have. It will close my clavicles grow plates?my facial bones will stop growing ?

most people on this thread are retarded. i'll be the adult in the room (20) that i'd strongly recommend against steroids at 16. now keep in mind im 100% pro-steroid and will hop on eventually as well but at 16 it's unwise.

beyond your typical growth plates closing and whatever. there are factors a lot of people don't talk about. I've been in the gym/bodybuilding culture for over 4 years now and I've seen a lot of these teenagers who hop on, have very uneven proportions. It looks almost uncanny, and it's due to different androgen receptor density in muscle groups. they will have very pronounced traps, with uneven lats and super big biceps while also having weak forearms. it's very weird since they don't have the time to develop their muscles properly.

not to mention injury risk and not learning how to properly lift. my first year of working out was basically a trial-run lol. and you'll likely still be small even after hopping on as they aren't that magical. put 10 juiced people in a room and i'll mog 8 and them naturally, and you can't even tell they are on roids.

if you're going to hop on regardless, take 350mg of cypionate without AI's unless you get bad side effects like gyno. taking AI's will lower your physique potential, contrary to popular belief, high estrogen is not bad but it's the imbalance of it that is. test naturally aromatizes into estrogen and when ur taking supraphysiological doses, sure that will happen lol.

also take EQ and maybe HCG, idk if u can combine the two and idk dosages either but good luck.

 

[Raf_slv10]

Wtf do you mean with cure in your life

did you took roids thats the question

 

[hsstar]

not true androgens accelerate closure so much even without the aromatisation. And ai isnt stopping local aromatisation

if op is cool with closing his plates if they r open still he should hop on tho, great for dimo and frame at that age. Else just run hgh and an ai if u have open plates, which is what im doing. more expensive but just as good, if not better, for dimo and frame and also could get taller

can u send ur sources/research

the growth plates are literally incapable of fusing if there is no E2 to signal them to fuse. and AI crash estrogen across the entire body. I'd recommend you stop using chatgpt or other ai for info, it gives the same responses to me (so that they stop u from using roids), but these arent scientifically proven in any way

 

[v8sandweights]

can u send ur sources/research

the growth plates are literally incapable of fusing if there is no E2 to signal them to fuse. and AI crash estrogen across the entire body. I'd recommend you stop using chatgpt or other ai for info, it gives the same responses to me (so that they stop u from using roids), but these arent scientifically proven in any way

No mate I guarantee you I’ve done more research than u, mostly because literally any of the most mainstream studies on even non aromatizable androgens like anavar showed bone age accelerating 2-3X as fast

And that’s non aromatisable, test for example is even worse cause no, aromatase inhibitors won’t eliminate local aromatisation in the bone tissue

I cba to give u sources cause it’s literally one google search they r the most mainstream studies on androgens given to teens- so clearly ur larping knowledge if ur unaware of them

 

[paulwesleyyy]

if i take anabolic steroids what sides effects on my puberty it will have. It will close my clavicles grow plates?my facial bones will stop growing ?

Stfu u won’t take it anyway lar larp larp sahur

 

[hsstar]

No mate I guarantee you I’ve done more research than u, mostly because literally any of the most mainstream studies on even non aromatizable androgens like anavar showed bone age accelerating 2-3X as fast

And that’s non aromatisable, test for example is even worse cause no, aromatase inhibitors won’t eliminate local aromatisation in the bone tissue

I cba to give u sources cause it’s literally one google search they r the most mainstream studies on androgens given to teens- so clearly ur larping knowledge if ur unaware of them

Yes, androgenic activity fuses growth plates by CONVERTING to E2. Doctors literally prescribe SERMs to prevent growth plate fusion. It wouldn't make sense to do that seeing as how SERMs triple Testosterone & DHT (androgenic) levels, which you say actually fuse growth plates.

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Delaying the growth plate closure to augment height

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[daniel333]

if i take anabolic steroids what sides effects on my puberty it will have. It will close my clavicles grow plates?my facial bones will stop growing ?

dude wait for the growth to end,dont take any shit

 

[v8sandweights]

Yes, androgenic activity fuses growth plates by CONVERTING to E2. Doctors literally prescribe SERMs to prevent growth plate fusion. It wouldn't make sense to do that seeing as how SERMs triple Testosterone & DHT (androgenic) levels, which you say actually fuse growth plates.

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nope androgens also fuse plates by a seperate mechanism. Becomes clear once you see the studies on naas like anavar
'On oxandrolone the mean ratios of change in bone age/change in chronological age were 2.0 (boys, LD), 2.3'

Oxandrolone in constitutionally delayed growth, a longitudinal study up to final height - PubMed

Twenty-seven prepubertal boys and 9 prepubertal girls with constitutionally delayed growth were treated with the anabolic steroid oxandrolone for 12 months and followed until they reached final height. Sixteen boys were treated with a mean dose of 0.12 mg/kg.day [low dose (LD)] and 11 boys with...

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And yeah no shit serms work, plus doubling natural test is nothing like pinning test exogenously especially at the dosages common on here. Letrozole boosts test too quite significantly and its one of the best ways to delay closure, doesnt mean that if u start pinning test alongside letrozole that your plates wont close faster. You cant prevent local aromatisation bud

 

[hsstar]

nope androgens also fuse plates by a seperate mechanism. Becomes clear once you see the studies on naas like anavar
'On oxandrolone the mean ratios of change in bone age/change in chronological age were 2.0 (boys, LD), 2.3'

Oxandrolone in constitutionally delayed growth, a longitudinal study up to final height - PubMed

Twenty-seven prepubertal boys and 9 prepubertal girls with constitutionally delayed growth were treated with the anabolic steroid oxandrolone for 12 months and followed until they reached final height. Sixteen boys were treated with a mean dose of 0.12 mg/kg.day [low dose (LD)] and 11 boys with...

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And yeah no shit serms work, plus doubling natural test is nothing like pinning test exogenously especially at the dosages common on here. Letrozole boosts test too quite significantly and its one of the best ways to delay closure, doesnt mean that if u start pinning test alongside letrozole that your plates wont close faster. You cant prevent local aromatisation bud

Aromatase inhibitors act systematically across the entire body bro they block conversion at every gland. Are you trying to say that aromatization at the epiphyseal plates aren't blocked by aromatase inhibitors? Be clear with ur stance. Because if u are saying that, that is completely wrong, AI block estrogen conversion everywhere.

Also, powerful AI + SERMs can raise your T levels to supraphysiological levels. Your body gets a massive spike in DHT (androgens), way above your baseline. Again, doctors would not prescribe something that triples androgens to someone they're trying to prevent growth plates fusion in if androgens act on the epiphyseal plates. There is no definitive proof that androgens or aromatisez work locally in the plates.

 

[v8sandweights]

Aromatase inhibitors act systematically across the entire body bro they block conversion at every gland. Are you trying to say that aromatization at the epiphyseal plates aren't blocked by aromatase inhibitors? Be clear with ur stance. Because if u are saying that, that is completely wrong, AI block estrogen conversion everywhere.

Also, powerful AI + SERMs can raise your T levels to supraphysiological levels. Your body gets a massive spike in DHT (androgens), way above your baseline. Again, doctors would not prescribe something that triples androgens to someone they're trying to prevent growth plates fusion in if androgens act on the epiphyseal plates. There is no definitive proof that androgens or aromatisez work locally in the plates.

yes there is bro, theres so much proof. Just refer to the study i literally just handed to you about anavar, and theres countless others on anavar saying the same exact thing -how androgens accelerate closure up to 3 times as fast. And even if it wont immediately close the plates, it will cause hypertrophic differentiation which means you accelerated senescense such that even with open plates u have no stem cells left to actually grow

And no aromatase inhibitors wont prevent local aromatisation effectively in the growth plates, ur just not educated stop coping