Can my neurodivergence simply be attributed to how I feel about my looks?

[3.5PslAutist]

I essentially when it comes to social situations, im always thinking what is this person gonna say or how there gonna treat me due to prior weird treatment from people and constantly being talked down to and this was when I was skinny. I very much feel like this treatment is due to my looks being below average along with my neurodivergence, though when I was bulked up the treatment was even worse.

When I was younger had zero of these feelings and never cared. Could improving looks to a point where I know I look at least somewhat good cancel out my neurodivergence? Cause I swear if I looked much better no way I wouldn’t care as much about how people act around me or what they say. I haven’t been treated badly in a sense but weird treatment over and over again seems worse than that tbh, like being talked to like im slow is quite annoying and patrionzing.

I have money loaned to me right now in which I can get large amounts of surgery but a part of me thinks maybe just ignore the treatement and continue on surgery won’t solve everything.

I am early 20s btw

 

[ZygolessBum]

I essentially when it comes to social situations, im always thinking what is this person gonna say or how there gonna treat me due to prior weird treatment from people and constantly being talked down to. When I was younger had zero of these feelings and never cared. Could improving looks to a point where I know I look at least somewhat good cancel out my neurodivergence? Cause I swear if I looked much better no way I would care as much about how people act around me or what they say.

99.9% of your problems could perish if you were good-looking enough; use that to your own accord.

 

[Foreverbrad]

It’s not that you “wouldn’t care” but rather that they would, in theory, stop treating you like shit.

But to be honest by the time you saved money for surgerymaxxing and actually went through with it, your peers will be so far ahead of you financially (due to not being disadvantaged) and you will be treated like shit for being unsuccessful instead.

The black pill always collects.

 

[jr49506]

I essentially when it comes to social situations, im always thinking what is this person gonna say or how there gonna treat me due to prior weird treatment from people and constantly being talked down to and this was when I was skinny. I very much feel like this treatment is due to my looks being below average along with my neurodivergence, though when I was bulked up the treatment was even worse.

When I was younger had zero of these feelings and never cared. Could improving looks to a point where I know I look at least somewhat good cancel out my neurodivergence? Cause I swear if I looked much better no way I would care as much about how people act around me or what they say.

Caring too much and overthinking things will make you more annoying/come off as a weak person— regardless of looks

 

[ndslth8r]

ND or not, if you’re good looking you would be treated well, and had way more opportunities. If you’re unattractive almost everything you do will be seen as bad.

 

[Gandy]

99.9% of your problems could perish if you were good-looking enough; use that to your own accord.

People also don't mind good looking or chad autists. Displaying traits or hobbies that would be creepy or weird on an ugly faced skinnyfat 5'6 guy are "eccentric" and "quirky" on a 6'4 guy with a handsome face and jacked body.

It's not as much that you would not be an autist if you were good looking, it's more that you would be barely required to mask at all.

(Henry Cavill, a certified autist, plays D&D and World of Warcraft in his spare time and millions of normal women worshipped him even before Witcher)

 

[ZygolessBum]

People also don't mind good looking or chad autists. Displaying traits or hobbies that would be creepy or weird on an ugly faced skinnyfat 5'6 guy are "eccentric" and "quirky" on a 6'4 guy with a handsome face and jacked body.

It's not as much that you would not be an autist if you were good looking, it's more that you would be barely required to mask at all.

(Henry Cavill, a certified autist, plays D&D and World of Warcraft in his spare time and millions of normal women worshipped him even before Witcher)

When you are a chad, you literally manipulate the fabric of reality; it may sound like a hyperbole, but it's been proven right in front of your eyes. Whatever horrible or negative trait you may have, when applied to you, now changes from something creepy to something cute; you can literally shape it into a new look. You don't have to hide who you are when you are chad; they are just infinitely blinded by your looks that these traits actually become attractive to them. If I'm not clear, let me explain. They actually start to like these traits, yes, because of your looks, but they actually start to enjoy them, like a catalyst in a reaction.

 

[ThomasDeutsch]

It’s not that you “wouldn’t care” but rather that they would, in theory, stop treating you like shit.

But to be honest by the time you saved money for surgerymaxxing and actually went through with it, your peers will be so far ahead of you financially (due to not being disadvantaged) and you will be treated like shit for being unsuccessful instead.

The black pill always collects.

At what age money starts to get more important?

 

[3.5PslAutist]

It’s not that you “wouldn’t care” but rather that they would, in theory, stop treating you like shit.

But to be honest by the time you saved money for surgerymaxxing and actually went through with it, your peers will be so far ahead of you financially (due to not being disadvantaged) and you will be treated like shit for being unsuccessful instead.

The black pill always collects.

i have loan money from family a while back unsure its still there, that I could use for surgeries but honestly fear a botch or something than it’s really over, cause I’d be botched and also working to pay it back JFL. but i quite literally could hardmax and plan rn i believ.

 

[eka]

Im neurodivergant it sucks

 

[appealisLAW]

What you are describing isn't neurodivergence, it's simply low self-esteem caused by previous bad encounters.

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[3.5PslAutist]

What you are describing isn't neurodivergence, it's simply low self-esteem caused by previous bad encounters.

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So what would u recommend? Cause these encounters tend to happen with strangers a lot of the times. Like I can be very nice and polite but it still happens. I do get nervous like what is this person gonna say beforehand? Are they gonna treat me weird again cause of my looks? With my childhood friends it’s nothing like this when we talk and stuff but with strangers I meet when I’m by myself it tends to happen often and almost everytime. I’ve softmaxxed since then via grown out hair + skin improvement and haven’t went outside yet really cause I just feel like it’s dumb to have all this free time and not have hardmaxxed just to be tretated the same exact way.

And tbh I don’t wanna be more and more traumatized by going outside now and trying again softmaxxed and still get treated the same way or approach women and just be rejected and then I hardmax after all of this and I would act the same way I do now cause of all those weird encounters.

 

[appealisLAW]

So what would u recommend? Cause these encounters tend to happen with strangers a lot of the times. Like I can be very nice and polite but it still happens. I do get nervous like what is this person gonna say beforehand? Are they gonna treat me weird again cause of my looks? With my childhood friends it’s nothing like this when we talk and stuff but with strangers I meet when I’m by myself it tends to happen often and almost everytime. I’ve softmaxxed since then via grown out hair + skin improvement and haven’t went outside yet really cause I just feel like it’s dumb to have all this free time and not have hardmaxxed just to be tretated the same exact way.

And tbh I don’t wanna be more and more traumatized by going outside now and trying again softmaxxed and still get treated the same way or approach women and just be rejected and let’s say I hardmaxxed, I would act the same way I do now cause of all those weird encounters.

It's easy to say but stop caring what others think since most of them are insecure to the point where they try to bring others down. I might sound cliche but i have never seen a good looking guy bring others down based on their looks. Also don't think good looking guys have people glazing them 24/7, while it can happen from time to time, most of them get talked about badly behind their backs or get some bad made up stories about them. Also do not react impulsively on their bullying or bad treatment if it's verbal, just ignore them and cut ties with people like that.

 

[Foreverbrad]

At what age money starts to get more important?

25 it starts to really matter as foids are looking for provider, 30 it’s everything to these foids and they barely care about looks any more.

I would recommend being born in a rich family if possible. Or at least don’t need hardmaxxing so you can focus on money. If you need hardmaxxing you’re kinda cooked.

i have loan money from family a while back unsure its still there, that I could use for surgeries but honestly fear a botch or something than it’s really over, cause I’d be botched and also working to pay it back JFL. but i quite literally could hardmax and plan rn i believ.

Unlikely to get botched if you do your research and are realistic about what is achievable and fits your facial harmony.

 

[3.5PslAutist]

It's easy to say but stop caring what others think since most of them are insecure to the point where they try to bring others down. I might sound cliche but i have never seen a good looking guy bring others down based on their looks. Also don't think good looking guys have people glazing them 24/7, while it can happen from time to time, most of them get talked about badly behind their backs or get some bad made up stories about them. Also do not react impulsively on their bullying or bad treatment if it's verbal, just ignore them and cut ties with people like that.

I haven’t really been bullied per se, it’s just weird treatment from like strangers where they treat me like im slow, they are being nice to me but there is like this weird feeling behind there action. Then when they talk to someone else right after to me they talk to them normally. They do it subconsciously I don’t even think it’s intentionally, but I feel like it’s cause of my looks there behavior changes

 

[appealisLAW]

I haven’t really been bullied per se, it’s just weird treatment from like strangers where they treat me like im slow, they are being nice to me but there is like this weird feeling behind there action. Then when they talk to someone else right after to me they talk to them normally. They do it subconsciously I don’t even think it’s intentionally, but I feel like it’s cause of my looks there behavior changes

it's most likely in your head ngl, if it's really true it's most likely them noticing you are being anxious and uncomfortable which is mirroring back to them.

 

[ThomasDeutsch]

25 it starts to really matter as foids are looking for provider, 30 it’s everything to these foids and they barely care about looks any more.

I would recommend being born in a rich family if possible. Or at least don’t need hardmaxxing so you can focus on money. If you need hardmaxxing you’re kinda cooked.



Unlikely to get botched if you do your research and are realistic about what is achievable and fits your facial harmony.

Fuck im already 25 ugly and broke and live in a shithole

 

[Foreverbrad]

Fuck im already 25 ugly and broke and live in a shithole

I mean I’m 32 and ugly and broke and live in a shithole. Could be worse, but probably won’t get better either.

 

[ThomasDeutsch]

I mean I’m 32 and ugly and broke and live in a shithole. Could be worse, but probably won’t get better either.

I forgot the worst part: being non nt

 

[Foreverbrad]

I forgot the worst part: being non nt

You’ll always end up non-NT living the shit life even if you started out NT.

 

[ThomasDeutsch]

You’ll always end up non-NT living the shit life even if you started out NT.

I had a few friends during my childhood but that was because we were obsessed with video games
Ever since i quit playing them i just cant connect with people

 

[ThomasDeutsch]

I mean I’m 32 and ugly and broke and live in a shithole. Could be worse, but probably won’t get better either.

Also my mental health its getting worse as i age
I used to be a happy cuck even tho i was uglier
I cant imagine how its gonna be in my 30s

 

[Foreverbrad]

Also my mental health its getting worse as i age
I used to be a happy cuck even tho i was uglier
I cant imagine how its gonna be in my 30s

To be honest it can’t really get any worse, you just have more feelings of regret but fundamentally your life is as bad as it can get already. It’s less that the “hole” you are in gets deeper but more that they are raising mountains around it, if that makes sense. Your inability to catch up becomes set in stone.

Ever since i quit playing them i just cant connect with people

I believe people just refuse to interact with the likes of us because they see us as losers who will lower their status by association.

Thing is at this age status is coming from things which require a lot of money and can’t easily be frauded. It’s no longer enough to wear your fake replica clothing and overspend on iPhones. Even being unmarried becomes a status-min. You need a big house, a luxury car. Kids - sent to the right school.

People my age at my office talk about their home repairs, their kids, their partners. I have nothing to say to them and they have nothing to say to me.