Can palate expander improve my face?

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yes
 
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depends. Is your palate wide?
 
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yes, I'm doing the same
 
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jaw/zygos/maxilla? Does age really matter with that thing?



what do i need to do to get one?
No age doesnt matter. Its always good. Wider zygos wider maxilla wider mandible I guess

edit: age matters.
 
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jaw/zygos/maxilla? Does age really matter with that thing?



what do i need to do to get one?

i ordered mine from bracesshop. com

Im using the active schwarz plate, they'll send you an impression kit, mail it back to em and they'll make your expander
 
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My palate is narrow so it will help me alot
 
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i ordered mine from bracesshop. com

Im using the active schwarz plate, they'll send you an impression kit, mail it back to em and they'll make your expander
Really? Ypu dont need to get some doctor papers for that?
 
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i ordered mine from bracesshop. com

Im using the active schwarz plate, they'll send you an impression kit, mail it back to em and they'll make your expander

how old are you? sounds good tbh ngl
 
jaw/zygos/maxilla? Does age really matter with that thing?



what do i need to do to get one?
No age doesnt matter. Its always good. Wider zygos wider maxilla wider mandible I guess
Yes age matters
after 15 your maxilla starts to fuse and a regular palate expander after 15 will not give you that much skeletal effects
and it will tip your teeth out like crazy
 
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Yes age matters
after 15 your maxilla starts to fuse and a regular palate expander after 15 will not give you that much skeletal effects
and it will tip your teeth out like crazy

I've read that its effective up until 25
 
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I've read that its effective up until 25
a palate expander only expands your dental arch, correct? as opposed to mse which actually splits the maxilla open and widens it
 
a palate expander only expands your dental arch, correct? as opposed to mse which actually splits the maxilla open and widens it

yes, but theirs a possibility that it can cause skeletal change
 
It can. But it didn't work for me at ALL. There's a bigger chance of it doing nothing if you're over 16.
 
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It can. But it didn't work for me at ALL. There's a bigger chance of it doing nothing if you're over 16.
Did you have a narrow palate. Or was it already average?
 
Did you have a narrow palate. Or was it already average?

Yeah I had a v narrow palate and a narrow mouth overall and my orthodontist gave me palatal expanders to grow room for my tongue. I had it for about 3 months and at the end of the 3 months there was a noticeable gap between my two front teeth. Then at the end of it I took it off and the gap closed, and I look at pics of myself before and after all that and I see absolutely 0 difference whatsoever. JFL, I posted a pic on reddit recently after palate expanders and someone told me I should get some expansion on my upper jaw LOL. Really did nothing. My orthodontist hasn't said anything about it but Ill ask him when I see him again
 
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at your age a tooth borne expander will give you minimal skeletal changes

if you do this you will ascend

MSE for expansion
Request a modified appliance to facepull with
Mew with the front part of your tongue to cause a CCW maxilla rotation which will do two things

1. Decrease your midface length which would have extreme benefits for you
2. Will consequently result in mandible upswing and cause it to grow forward, lowering your gonial angle and giving you a BSSO equivalent
 
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I've read that its effective up until 25
at your age a tooth borne expander will give you minimal skeletal changes

if you do this you will ascend

MSE for expansion
Request a modified appliance to facepull with
Mew with the front part of your tongue to cause a CCW maxilla rotation which will do two things

1. Decrease your midface length which would have extreme benefits for you
2. Will consequently result in mandible upswing and cause it to grow forward, lowering your gonial angle and giving you a BSSO equivalent
so its cope at 18yo?
 
Pietro is looksmaxing?

I am indeed mirin.
 
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Average Palatal Expander yes, It would only fucked up your teeth.
sad shit mate


at your age a tooth borne expander will give you minimal skeletal changes

if you do this you will ascend

MSE for expansion
Request a modified appliance to facepull with
Mew with the front part of your tongue to cause a CCW maxilla rotation which will do two things

1. Decrease your midface length which would have extreme benefits for you
2. Will consequently result in mandible upswing and cause it to grow forward, lowering your gonial angle and giving you a BSSO equivalent
what is mse? Isnt it easier to do some cheeky surgery instead?
 
sad shit mate



what is mse? Isnt it easier to do some cheeky surgery instead?
You are rainbowcel and don't know what is MSE? xd
 
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ofc no
palate expander does nothing for bones
 
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palate expander does a pacman split
mse does split for the entire maxilla
basic info
your point was that it does nothing for bones, wasn't it?
 
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bruhhh thats basic info lmaoo
its expands maxilla and makes it wider
but what is it, how much it cost, is it easy to get it etc.
 
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but what is it, how much it cost, is it easy to get it etc.
its like braces
a doctor installs it into your upper palate
and you have a button that makes it expand
when it expands it makes the maxilla also expand
its 2k but you can get for free covered by insurance if your lucky
 
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its like braces
a doctor installs it into your upper palate
and you have a button that makes it expand
when it expands it makes the maxilla also expand
its 2k but you can get for free covered by insurance if your lucky
does it work at 18yo?
 
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does it work at 18yo?
ye it works at any age
a very old lady got it and it made her face so much better
her zygomatic bones became super visible
 
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ye it works at any age
a very old lady got it and it made her face so much better
her zygomatic bones became super visible
i have decent zygo mass now, it would be nice to have it even more. I wonder, does it work for mandible too?
 
ye it works at any age
a very old lady got it and it made her face so much better
her zygomatic bones became super visible
Picture?
 
sad shit mate



what is mse? Isnt it easier to do some cheeky surgery instead?
MSE is a palate expander that is implanted into your maxilla with micro screws, it is much easier than surgery recovery wise and cost efficiency for the value it gives you, however the caveat is you need to wear a facemask for 6 months
 
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MSE is a palate expander that is implanted into your maxilla with micro screws, it is much easier than surgery recovery wise and cost efficiency for the value it gives you, however the caveat is you need to wear a facemask for 6 months
Like 24/7 or what?
 
Like 24/7 or what?
The longer you wear it the more results you get, but you can wear it as few as 8hrs/day and get the results similar of a low level lefort in how much you move your maxilla forwards, however MSE is insane because instead of just moving forward the lower maxilla like in lefort i, it moves the entire maxilla + cheekbones + orbitals like lefort iii
 
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The longer you wear it the more results you get, but you can wear it as few as 8hrs/day and get the results similar of a low level lefort in how much you move your maxilla forwards, however MSE is insane because instead of just moving forward the lower maxilla like in lefort i, it moves the entire maxilla + cheekbones + orbitals like lefort iii
Does it influence mandible? If i would get more zygo/maxilla width, my mandible would look comicly small
 
Does it influence mandible? If i would get more zygo/maxilla width, my mandible would look comicly small
it will 100% come forward but it is still up in the air of it expands laterally, it theoretically should but it’s never been studied just from how new MSE is, you can get MSDO in tandem with MSE for 3k which MSDO is essentially just the equivalent of MSE but for your mandible
 
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it will 100% come forward but it is still up in the air of it expands laterally, it theoretically should but it’s never been studied just from how new MSE is, you can get MSDO in tandem with MSE for 3k which MSDO is essentially just the equivalent of MSE but for your mandible
so mso and msdo at the same time? So basicly these 2 are like braces but for the bones? Whats with that facemasc cause i dont understand. Do you have a pics?

If its something you put on, i can wear it for most of the day tbh
 

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