Can perfectly normal/average looking guys pull attractive girls ?

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This is a completely genuine question.

I’ve had certain experiences that have contradicted the blackpill but I just don’t know anymore. On one hand, game is clearly very important but at the same time, average looking guys are definitely disadvantaged in terms of SMV.

Does anyone have an answer ?
 
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oh and yes
 
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yes
 
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yes
I think the key is to just to seek out as many new social experiences as possible.

I’ve 100% noticed a trend where men these days sabotage themselves out of insecurity and the belief that they simply aren’t attractive enough to talk to women, to the point that it’s crazy.
 
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This is a completely genuine question.

I’ve had certain experiences that have contradicted the blackpill but I just don’t know anymore. On one hand, game is clearly very important but at the same time, average looking guys are definitely disadvantaged in terms of SMV.

Does anyone have an answer ?
yes but usually using jbw to get attractive ethnic foids
 
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average indian in west is like infinite smv
 
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If by pull you mean actual sex and this happening on a regular basis with many different girls, I’d say only if he has some status boost that gets him around them and/or some really special niche. Because after about freshman year of college you need either that or well above average looks to even meet attractive girls in the first place. There aren’t that many that are available and looking at any given time, and people are having less and less sex nowadays, it’s statistics.
 
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yeah, but it's a truly mind boggling amount of effort and work, you basically have to structure your life entirely around this one goal
and in the end, you won't get any real desire anyway
 
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very good looking women are intimidating to most men so they rarely get asked out,

sometimes the first guy with enough balls to ask her out will be successfull given that the guy is NT and looks somewhat decent
 
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yeah, but it's a truly mind boggling amount of effort and work, you basically have to structure your life entirely around this one goal
and in the end, you won't get any real desire anyway
What about casual contexts like bars or clubs, can game be enough?
 
yes you idiot. yes it can happen. plenty of normal guys (ltn-htn) can pull good looking girls. it is considerably harder. you make your job easier by looking better.

looksmaxxing's point is not so that a particular girl likes you. it is increasing the chances of any random girl you pick off the street thinking you are attractive.
 
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With height halo it’s possible
 
This is a completely genuine question.

I’ve had certain experiences that have contradicted the blackpill but I just don’t know anymore. On one hand, game is clearly very important but at the same time, average looking guys are definitely disadvantaged in terms of SMV.

Does anyone have an answer ?
yeah, like anything ur at a disatvantage but if you max out what you can and shoot enough shots and get practice youll b able to pull
 
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Just try, if there's like 10 girls possible then try pulling, maybe you get 3, maybe 2, maybe only one, maybe if you're lucky you get 5girls. If you're really unlucky you get none but repeat the process and try again.

Never stop trying till you get what you want
 
Yes only if NT
If you're not, probably not without money/status/just be first

But even JBF almost exclusively NT only

NT is really the great filter and I mean genetically not just kinda shy/undersocialised
 

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