Can socialism be as effective economically as capitalism?

[Deleted member 15099]

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[WhiteGoodman]

No.

 

[Deleted member 18159]

Socialism/communism has failed every time it has been implemented. People in socialist/communist states have very little freedom. The best system is capitalism with regulation to hold big corporations and monopolies accountable.

 

[Harold O'brien]

nah, human biology doesn't work that way unfortunately

 

[Deleted member 16801]

no because people are lazy

 

[n0rthface]

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No, but completely unregulated capitalism is also ineffective

 

[Rabbi]

Most people here think socialism = communism lmao.

 

[Deleted member 8165]

Yes it can work, we have capitalist countries with social policies and they work

 

[Harold O'brien]

Most people here think socialism = communism lmao.

explain the difference

marx used the terms interchangeably iirc

 

[Cali Yuga]

meaningless

 

[Deleted member 13787]

corporatism mogs hard

 

[N1c]

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Yes but it depends on what kind of Socialism. There exist many types of Socialism.

 

[Deleted member 15338]

nah, human biology doesn't work that way unfortunately

Socialism is better than capitalism

 

[Deleted member 13787]

explain the difference

marx used the terms interchangeably iirc

i think the distinction was later defined, with socialism meaning the proletariat owning the means of production while communism being the stage after that, where there is no longer a state, money or classes
of course, all of that is just a fantasy, and in no way achievable for humans

 

[n0rthface]

i think the distinction was later defined, with socialism meaning the proletariat owning the means of production while communism being the stage after that, where there is no longer a state, money or classes
of course, all of that is just a fantasy, and in no way achievable for humans

This.

Marx had a time line of capitalism - socialism - then stateless communism.

 

[N1c]

corporatism mogs hard

Corporatism is the system wich have been proven to be the best yet. I think a economic system like Chile had under Allende could compete with it tough. But it hasnt been as tried long enough yet

 

[Harold O'brien]

Socialism is better than capitalism

yeah and being an immortal being that can fly is better than being human

we don't get to choose how these things work

 

[Deleted member 15338]

yeah and being an immortal being that can fly is better than being human

we don't get to choose how these things work

Corporatism mogs hard but i would choose socialism over capitalism

 

[Harold O'brien]

Corporatism mogs hard but i would choose socialism over capitalism

you don't get it. it doesn't matter what you would choose when one of the options is infeasible.

I would choose owning one trillion dollars over being poor

 

[Deleted member 15338]

you don't get it. it doesn't matter what you would choose when one of the options is unfeasible.

I would choose owning one trillion dollars over being poor

What do u even say retard just fuck off if you dont make a valid point

 

[Harold O'brien]

What do u even say retard just fuck off if you dont make a valid point

you just got rekt lmfao

 

[Deleted member 15338]

you just got rekt lmfao

infeasible

 

[Harold O'brien]

infeasible

sorry, didn't realise 3rd grade reading level was too high for you

 

[Deleted member 15338]

sorry, didn't realise 3rd grade reading level was too high for you

Are u some Curry living in States

 

[Rabbi]

Which would be true. Marx used them interchangeably

It really depends, Marx and Lenin believed that capitalist states would have a revolution overthrowing the capitalist system electing a communist aligned political body that would then seize land and ownership under what could be called state socialism (not libertarian socialism), said government would then dissipate and private ownership would be abolished.

 

[ConspiracyTheory]

Not one single communist country has been as successful as the US, which is the most capitalist.