Can somebody clue me in on clavicular and this double jaw surgery stuff?

[TitusA]

I really dont keep up with the whole looksmax community and/or social media in general but i just saw some clips from an interview he did. How extreme is the double jaw surgery procedure and how much benefit is he actually going to get? He looks way above average facially already so any potential small benefit doesnt seem worth the risk of looking screwed up.

Also just seeing him explain his reasoning (hypergamy being out of control), I think he and any of you who think the sake way overblowing how bad it is nowadays because of the social media bubble you are in. When you are way above average looking like he is already any further benefit you are going to get from improving your looks is really minimal. For a 5/10 wanting to do this stuff its more understandable.

 

[sadcel]

Autists from there think that his surgery will make hardmaxxing very mainstream if it ascend him hard.

I also think it's overkill, he's HTN 6'2 and jacked; the surgery is going to be very invasive

 

[slaters]

The jaw surgery will make his face longer
The rhino will fix his pig nose
The implants will make him more robust

 

[TitusA]

The jaw surgery will make his face longer
The rhino will fix his pig nose
The implants will make him more robust

Yeah thats what im saying. Wont he just look way too extreme and uncanny? As opposed to know he looks pretty well balanced. I feel if he cares about his looks and presence that much he would be better off working on his voice at this point.

 

[slaters]

Yeah thats what im saying. Wont he just look way too extreme and uncanny? As opposed to know he looks pretty well balanced. I feel if he cares about his looks and presence that much he would be better off working on his voice at this point.

The jaw surgery and rhino will actually do him really good but the implants would probably be too much

 

[lcberg04]

I think is reasoning is understandable since if the surgery succeeds he may become even more attractive resulting in him getting "chad treatment" since only a small minority of men are highly attractive to women.

Its kinda like the difference between 6'2 and 6'6. I mean yeah being 6'2 in the west and cool and almost no women will reject you because of your height since you're already in that height Quantil that is considered attractive but 6'6 is obviously even better.
At the end of the day it comes down to how risk affine you are and what your goals are. Also him having this big platform minigates the risk even further because
A: The surgeon will be even more extra careful since the risk of him messing up the result of such a big online figure could be career ending
B: Clavicular can make content about the whole process and therefore make the money back he spent on the whole procedure + attract attention

 

[TitusA]

I think is reasoning is understandable since if the surgery succeeds he may become even more attractive resulting in him getting "chad treatment" since only a small minority of men are highly attractive to women.

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Its kinda like the difference between 6'2 and 6'6. I mean yeah being 6'2 in the west and cool and almost no women will reject you because of your height since you're already in that height Quantil that is considered attractive but 6'6 is obviously even better.
At the end of the day it comes down to how risk affine you are and what your goals are. Also him having this big platform minigates the risk even further because
A: The surgeon will be even more extra careful since the risk of him messing up the result of such a big online figure could be career ending
B: Clavicular can make content about the whole process and therefore make the money back he spent on the whole procedure + attract attention

He should be getting chad treatment based off his looks now. If anything hed be way better off working on his frame and voice which would be lower risk then getting some surgery on his face which is already way way above average (so the benefit he could get will be slim compared to other areas he can improve) and could seriously backfire.

 

[lcberg04]

He should be getting chad treatment based off his looks now. If anything hed be way better off working on his frame and voice which would be lower risk then getting some surgery on his face which is already way way above average and could seriously backfire.

i agree he already looks really good and has some other things to work on.
But then again he could look even better because he definitely has some objective flaws. It really comes down to how much you think that potential upgrade could result in him getting more benefits out of it. If the surgery really can increase his appeal even further to the top xx% male model level (think jeremy meeks, ...) then i personally think it would be worth it. Because in todays age women can see and link up with a good looking guy anytime they want through social media so i think being hyper-attractive holds much more value in comparison to being attractive than people think.
Buts thats just my personal take and who knows if the surgery will even be successful.

 

[sadcel]

I think he want to become like a saint of looksmaxxing by doing these big surgeries, like everyone will remember him for his ascension

 

[oily703]

he gets off on thoughts of getting botched by giant

 

[Plushie]

I think is reasoning is understandable since if the surgery succeeds he may become even more attractive resulting in him getting "chad treatment" since only a small minority of men are highly attractive to women.

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Its kinda like the difference between 6'2 and 6'6. I mean yeah being 6'2 in the west and cool and almost no women will reject you because of your height since you're already in that height Quantil that is considered attractive but 6'6 is obviously even better.
At the end of the day it comes down to how risk affine you are and what your goals are. Also him having this big platform minigates the risk even further because
A: The surgeon will be even more extra careful since the risk of him messing up the result of such a big online figure could be career ending
B: Clavicular can make content about the whole process and therefore make the money back he spent on the whole procedure + attract attention

The pressure on the guy operating gotta be insane bru, clav is mainstream af and if the surgery goes wrong he is getting bombarded

 

[TitusA]

i agree he already looks really good and has some other things to work on.
But then again he could look even better because he definitely has some objective flaws. It really comes down to how much you think that potential upgrade could result in him getting more benefits out of it. If the surgery really can increase his appeal even further to the top xx% male model level (think jeremy meeks, ...) then i personally think it would be worth it. Because in todays age women can see and link up with a good looking guy anytime they want through social media so i think being hyper-attractive holds much more value in comparison to being attractive than people think.
Buts thats just my personal take and who knows if the surgery will even be successful.

I understand your perspective yeah but I just dont think he is going to get much more out of changing his face (maybe his nose) but he just seems to want to make his features really extreme. Also since he has some social media clout he should have no problem getting girls.
Its not like you reach some 10/10 rating and girls will think you are objectively better than other guys, theirs still an aspect of personal preference that is involved, allong with status and they will get bored of you regardless.

Women are more hypergamous than men but I still think they find other guys attractive even if with a top guy. Its just human nature to get bored of the same person and have the grass is greener mentality after a while.

 

[lcberg04]

The pressure on the guy operating gotta be insane bru, clav is mainstream af and if the surgery goes wrong he is getting bombarded

Absolutely that's why I think some of risk is obviously mitigated

I understand your perspective yeah but I just dont think he is going to get much more out of changing his face (maybe his nose) but he just seems to want to make his features really extreme. Also since he has some social media clout he should have no problem getting girls.
Its not like you reach some 10/10 rating and girls will think you are objectively better than other guys, theirs still an aspect of personal preference that is involved, allong with status and they will get bored of you regardless.

Women are more hypergamous than men but I still think they find other guys attractive even if with a top guy. Its just human nature to get bored of the same person and have the grass is greener mentality after a while.

I understand your point and sure you might be right. But clav is around HTN right now imo maybe low chadlite if he's fully locked in so definitely above average and attractive but just not quite at the highest level.
Compare possibly the most attractive girl you've ever seen to an attractive girl you see regularly at your work environment or uni or wherever. Sure both will get a lot of attention and obviously have no problem attracting a lot of men but the top percentile girl will get a lot more. The halo effect just gets stronger the more attractive you get. I think that's part of the reason why he does the surgery

 

[yussimania]

surgery isn't happening forget about it

lamest excuse ever

 

[niggero0]

I really dont keep up with the whole looksmax community and/or social media in general but i just saw some clips from an interview he did. How extreme is the double jaw surgery procedure and how much benefit is he actually going to get? He looks way above average facially already so any potential small benefit doesnt seem worth the risk of looking screwed up.

Also just seeing him explain his reasoning (hypergamy being out of control), I think he and any of you who think the sake way overblowing how bad it is nowadays because of the social media bubble you are in. When you are way above average looking like he is already any further benefit you are going to get from improving your looks is really minimal. For a 5/10 wanting to do this stuff its more understandable.

he ain't getting shit he is just using that as rage bait nigga delayed his surgery for 100th time he is edging with his surgery