Can someone check my main facial ratios for me?

[ArabIncel]

Not sure if I’m doing it correctly and not so good at it. Looking for FWHR, midface ratio, ES ratio, and any of the other major ones. Few photos below taken from a far 2m distance (which one ever is best can be used).

 

[Sal123]

U mog is all

 

[Deleted member 2933]

Nose job
Palate expander

Or

Keep coping

 

[ArabIncel]

Nose job
Palate expander

Or

Keep coping

Not the point of the thread

 

[diggbicc]

about to cry/10

 

[Deleted member 2933]

Not the point of the thread

Cope

 

[ArabIncel]

Cope

I know I need a nose job. I knew that before you even told me. The point of this thread is something else tho. It’s not a “what surgeries do I need?” thread.

 

[Deleted member 2933]

I know I need a nose job. I knew that before you even told me. The point of this thread is something else tho. It’s not a “what surgeries do I need?” thread.

Palate expander for your IPD, im the only u should be listening up here. Or nothing will change for u.

 

[ArabIncel]

Palate expander for your IPD, im the only u should be listening up here. Or nothing will change for u.

My IPD is more or less okay. The problem is my ES ratio. That can’t be changed to be made better (not in my case anyway).

 

[Deleted member 2933]

My IPD is more or less okay. The problem is my ES ratio. That can’t be changed to be made better (not in my case anyway).

Your ipd is not ok for your face width, aka ES ratio, expand it and u gonna fix your ES.

Palate expander
Listen TO ME

 

[ArabIncel]

Your ipd is not ok for your face width, aka ES ratio, expand it and u gonna fix your ES.

Palate expander
Listen TO ME

My IPD not being okay for my face width is exactly what the ES ratio is telling. As I said, my ES ratio is the problem. The IPD by itself is not the problem.

 

[Deleted member 2933]

My IPD not being okay for my face width is exactly what the ES ratio is telling. As I said, my ES ratio is the problem. The IPD by itself is not the problem.

Increasing your IPD will FIX your ES Ratio, can u get a damn palate expander already and listen to educated looksmaxxers?

 

[weallburninhell]

Ur middle third is longer than ur lower third

 

[diggbicc]

Listen TO ME

 

[ArabIncel]

Increasing your IPD will FIX your ES Ratio, can u get a damn palate expander already and listen to educated looksmaxxers?

How the fuck will the ES ratio be fixed with a palate expander? The ES ratio compares IPD to bizygomatic width ...

 

[Deleted member 2933]

How the fuck will the ES ratio be fixed with a palate expander? The ES ratio compares IPD to bizygomatic width ...

Im tired of this forum.

 

[ArabIncel]

Im tired of this forum.

There is no way to fix my ES ratio unless I change my IPD or my bizygomatic width ...

Changing the former is not possible. Changing the latter is possible I suppose but generally to make it higher. In my case I‘d need to lower it, which isn’t really happening...

 

[Ekeoma_The_BBC]

Palate expander for your IPD, im the only u should be listening up here. Or nothing will change for u.

palate expander doesnt increase your ipd...

 

[john2]

All I can say is what ever @SirGey Said so far and...

Your lower third is shorte4 than your middle third.
Your eye to mouth angle is very less giving you a cuck eye horse face appearance.

Use a palate expander.

 

[Deleted member 2933]

palate doesnt increase your ipd...

They do

 

[ArabIncel]

@TsarTsar444 the pics I sent you before were a bit inaccurate for ratio measurements I realized due to the angle. Here I’ve sent pics that are better for such measurements. If you can run the check on these that’d be awesome

 

[TsarTsar444]

@TsarTsar444 the pics I sent you before were a bit inaccurate for ratio measurements I realized due to the angle. Here I’ve sent pics that are better for such measurements. If you can run the check on these that’d be awesome

Sure

 

[ArabIncel]

They do

I looked it up. One study ever published said it SLIGHTLY does so. And that too is a big maybe. So the general answer seems to be: IPD cannot be changed.

 

[Deleted member 2933]

I looked it up. One study ever published said it SLIGHTLY does so. And that too is a big maybe. So the general answer seems to be: IPD cannot be changed.

Stay as u are then

 

[ArabIncel]

Stay as u are then

Stop suggesting stupid things then lol. Palate expansion for IPD increase (based off of one study that shows a very, very slight increase, and that too a big maybe), lol ...

 

[Deleted member 2933]

Stop suggesting stupid things then lol. Palate expansion for IPD increase (based off of one study that shows a very, very slight increase, and that too a big maybe), lol ...

This is not a looksmaxing forum for real.

 

[Maxillacel]

recessed maxilla/10

 

[ArabIncel]

recessed maxilla/10

It’s not recessed

 

[Maxillacel]

It’s not recessed

Non existent cheekbones, bird nose, noticable nasolabial folds you tick all the symptoms of a recessed maxilla

 

[Deleted member 2621]

Not sure if I’m doing it correctly and not so good at it. Looking for FWHR, midface ratio, ES ratio, and any of the other major ones. Few photos below taken from a far 2m distance (which one ever is best can be used).

you definitely need to get your ipd checked. ouch

 

[forwardgrowth]

It’s not recessed

your forehead is distrubing ngl

Non existent cheekbones, bird nose, noticable nasolabial folds you tick all the symptoms of a recessed maxilla

 

[ArabIncel]

Non existent cheekbones, bird nose, noticable nasolabial folds you tick all the symptoms of a recessed maxilla

Except it’s not recessed. It’s neither pronounced nor recessed.

Also this wasn’t the point of the thread.

 

[Golden Glass]

@ArabIncel If you want to improve your ES ratio, and don’t want to get an orbital box osteotomy to increase IPD, then the only option you have is lateral cheekbone reduction, specifically to make the area between your eye and ear less prominent. This is super common in Korea but they tend to overdo it; you can definitely get good results as long as you find a doctor that’s not going to shave off all cheekbone contour...in Korea they do that because they want that androgynous look but that’s not what you want, you’d ideally want like 50% of what was done to this mans cheekbone width:

Also keep in mind if you do this, you may need a bit of jaw reduction in order to have your jaw angles be less wide than your zygos...but I have to stress you don’t want to overdo it.
PS: In order to see what you’d look like with less laterally protruding cheekbones and jaw, I’d ask someone for a good morph, and they should also add some vertical chin height as well because based on these pics you need it.

 

[ArabIncel]

@ArabIncel If you want to improve your ES ratio, and don’t want to get an orbital box osteotomy to increase IPD, then the only option you have is lateral cheekbone reduction, specifically to make the area between your eye and ear less prominent. This is super common in Korea but they tend to overdo it; you can definitely get good results as long as you find a doctor that’s not going to shave off all cheekbone contour...in Korea they do that because they want that androgynous look but that’s not what you want, you’d ideally want like 50% of what was done to this mans cheekbone width:
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Also keep in mind if you do this, you may need a bit of jaw reduction in order to have your jaw angles be less wide than your zygos...but I have to stress you don’t want to overdo it.
PS: In order to see what you’d look like with less laterally protruding cheekbones and jaw, I’d ask someone for a good morph, and they should also add some vertical chin height as well because based on these pics you need it.

Yeah exactly. That’s what I was trying to tell the guy above — that to improve my ES ratio I’d need to reduce my bizygomatic width (as you also pointed out). But I’m not sure if I’d want that as that would mess up some of my other ratios (such as FWHR).

 

[Mateusz74]

Hilfigercel

 

[Golden Glass]

Yeah exactly. That’s what I was trying to tell the guy above — that to improve my ES ratio I’d need to reduce my bizygomatic width (as you also pointed out). But I’m not sure if I’d want that as that would mess up some of my other ratios (such as FWHR).

Yeah it’s really an either or then. You have to choose what you’re more comfortable with, a better ES ratio, or a better FWHR? For what it’s worth; I believe ES ratio in your case is slightly more important...as long as you compensated for your worsened FWHR by adding vertical height to your chin.

This could all be solved by having you morphed so you can see which you prefer.

 

[ArabIncel]

Yeah it’s really an either or then. You have to choose what you’re more comfortable with, a better ES ratio, or a better FWHR? For what it’s worth; I believe ES ratio in your case is slightly more important...as long as you compensated for your worsened FWHR by adding vertical height to your chin.

This could all be solved by having you morphed so you can see which you prefer.

Yeah that makes sense. Either way even if I don’t do anything about reducing my bizygomatic width (thus retaining my FWHR) I’m still going to make my chin taller.

Yeah it’s really an either or then. You have to choose what you’re more comfortable with, a better ES ratio, or a better FWHR? For what it’s worth; I believe ES ratio in your case is slightly more important...as long as you compensated for your worsened FWHR by adding vertical height to your chin.

This could all be solved by having you morphed so you can see which you prefer.

Also if possible can you check my ratios for me? I’m not sure if I’ve checked them properly

 

[Titbot]

I looked it up. One study ever published said it SLIGHTLY does so. And that too is a big maybe. So the general answer seems to be: IPD cannot be changed.

Cope IPD can be increases by slimming the nose

 

[ArabIncel]

Better quality pics taken for the purposes of the thread (again from about 2m away):

 

[Introvertednarc]

mogs me according to trusted rater @Sikkunt23

 

[Sikkunt23]

mogs me according to trusted rater @Sikkunt23

You mog him

 

[Deleted member 8699]

Not sure if I’m doing it correctly and not so good at it. Looking for FWHR, midface ratio, ES ratio, and any of the other major ones. Few photos below taken from a far 2m distance (which one ever is best can be used).

everything seems 2 be a failo.......... :/