Can we all agree that turks are white?

[Deleted member 23100]

no way. non-cherrypicked random pics on any search give very ambiguous results, most of them are brown and their phenotype is not 'slender:fine' (see my pfp for e.g,.)

when nationalities are questioned that way (is x country White?) then 1:1 that the country has backstory and genetic dilution similar to Brazil

 

[enchanted_elixir]

burkina faso tier fucking niggers

 

[Deleted member 18522]

He is not white not even in Turkey.Actually ı would say most of turks see him as brown/shitskin.

Dude stop coping Turks have light skin but 95% have very dark hair and eyes

 

[Deleted member 23778]

no way. non-cherrypicked random pics on any search give very ambiguous results, most of them are brown and their phenotype is not 'slender:fine' (see my pfp for e.g,.)

when nationalities are questioned that way (is x country White?) then 1:1 that the country has backstory and genetic dilution similar to Brazil

What?

 

[Deleted member 23100]

What?

what what? the bold text? Whites have angular and slender traits. if you didn't notice this yet then idk what to tell you. it's more defining than eye/hair colour per se

 

[Deleted member 24167]

Dude stop coping Turks have light skin but 95% have very dark hair and eyes

I live in Western Turkey.Turks are in here have light hair and eyes.

 

[Deleted member 18522]

I live in Western Turkey.Turks are in here have light hair and eyes.

Idk where you are but in Istanbul Turks look homogeneous af. All pale and dark hair they’re almost like Chinese Arabs

 

[Deleted member 24167]

Idk where you are but in Istanbul Turks look homogeneous af. All pale and dark hair they’re almost like Chinese Arabs

Çanakkale/Balıkesir.Istanbul took many immigrants from Eastern Anatolia.You should also check İzmir.

 

[Deleted member 22924]

some look white

 

[Deleted member 23778]

what what? the bold text? Whites have angular and slender traits. if you didn't notice this yet then idk what to tell you. it's more defining than eye/hair colour per se

Angular and slender? Jfl pig pheno is super common in Whites and it is neither angular nor slender.

Lots of Arabs have slender noses and look ethnic af. Girl in your avi looks partially ethnic anyway even with her "slender" features

 

[Deleted member 23100]

Angular and slender? Jfl pig pheno is super common in Whites and it is neither angular nor slender.

Lots of Arabs have slender noses and look ethnic af. Girl in your avi looks partially ethnic anyway even with her "slender" features

no, they don't. most of them are rat-faced due to being boneless, they've sunken eyes/orbitals, rarely slender traits/nose, and their skin is dark in a filthy way, and when they're 'light-skinned' they look sickly 'pale' (similar to most Jews who are not Ashk)

 

[LiteralCaucasian]

The Turks that look White likely have European or Caucasian ancestry. Those Hittite Anatolians never change.

 

[Deleted member 6128]

no lmao, in the 14th century the Balkan kingdoms weren't more behind compared to France, this is advanced uni tier history tho to read about, it took 100 years for the Balkans to fall after continous non stop war with the Ottomans

They were falling behind Western Europe were slowly digging themselves out of the near thousand year dark age of absolutely no major progression.

In the 15th century thanks to the low IQ ottomans banning the Silk Road countries like Spain moved westward then England Portugal and France followed soon after.

The ottomans are literally the reason Western Europe conquered earth

 

[St.TikTokcel]

Because if they are not white, italians and spaniards are burkina faso tier fucking niggers

No

 

[Deleted member 23157]

They arent white. I have visited in turkey and I can confirm majority arent white. Those that look white are mixed with albanians or other balkan race.

 

[Guba]

Turks are literally between Europe and the Near East. Therefore Turks can look either the former or the latter, the average phenotype probably falling somewhere in between. It's a big country with various looks. If Greeks, for example, are white then I have no problem accepting someone from, say, Western Turkey as white, from a purely racial perspective, that is. If cultural matters like religion come into play things might be different, of course. Anyway, the concept of "white" is pretty retarded and quite alien to most Europeans. Whether or not Turks are white, some certainly look white, by which I mean European-passing. Still, if forced to decide, I would say that they're not white as a collective since they are not Europeans nor of recent Christian heritage.

The interesting question is, would everyone consider Turks white and European if Anatolia had remained Christian?

 

[TsarTsar444]

Idk where you are but in Istanbul Turks look homogeneous af. All pale and dark hair they’re almost like Chinese Arabs

Thats a giga accurate description, they have the pheno from this painting just with facial hair usually

 

[Gengar]

Because if they are not white, italians and spaniards are burkina faso tier fucking niggers

They’re not white. There are white-passing Turks because Ottomans stole women from Europe (Balkans, Greece) and raped them.

 

[Gengar]

Thats a giga accurate description, they have the pheno from this painting just with facial hair usually
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JFL at that shitty description. The original Turks had an East Asian phenotype.

 

[Deleted member 26535]

no way. non-cherrypicked random pics on any search give very ambiguous results, most of them are brown and their phenotype is not 'slender:fine' (see my pfp for e.g,.)

when nationalities are questioned that way (is x country White?) then 1:1 that the country has backstory and genetic dilution similar to Braz

I wasnt deliberately cherrypicking, i got the pic i posted as the first result for "turkish man"

They’re not white. There are white-passing Turks because Ottomans stole women from Europe (Balkans, Greece) and raped them.

Are white-passing people white?

And greeks and most balkans are swarthier than turks, so i m not sure that stands

 

[TsarTsar444]

JFL at that shitty description. The original Turks had an East Asian phenotype.

No they didn't, you know very little about anthropology, turkic people like the Oghuz were R1 haplogroup, literally THE indo european one, but maternaly they were east asians. Turkic people were made from Indo Euro fathers and asian or indo euro mothers. Tengrism is a textbook Indo Euro Sky God religion. The high diary intake of ancient turks as well.

 

[ascendedd]

The West is leading the world exactly because economic and social liberalism has given it room for prosperity

If it weren’t for oil and natural gas, all Islamist countries would be Afghanistan tier poor. The biggest enemy of creativity and prosperity is authoritarianism

You are extremely dumb. Afghanistan is not like this because of Islam. Its the 40 years long war in the country which has sent us back to stone age.
And who is responsible for the war? Soviet and US. Both destabilized our country. Show me any country that is stable after being invaded by US.

 

[Gengar]

No they didn't, you know very little about anthropology, turkic people like the Oghuz were R1 haplogroup, literally THE indo european one, but maternaly they were east asians. Turkic people were made from Indo Euro fathers and asian or indo euro mothers. Tengrism is a textbook Indo Euro Sky God religion. The high diary intake of ancient turks as well.

I’m pretty sure it’s agreed upon by scholars that Gokturks were the first to use the term Turk and they were clearly East Asian and not even the first to use that name.

 

[Gengar]

Are white-passing people white?

And greeks and most balkans are swarthier than turks, so i m not sure that stands

No, white-passing people aren’t white. Nordic and Germanic peoples are white. The rest aren’t.

 

[Deleted member 13787]

I’m pretty sure it’s agreed upon by scholars that Gokturks were the first to use the term Turk and they were clearly East Asian and not even the first to use that name.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Siberian 26.19
2 Baltic 24.21
3 North_Atlantic 23.48
4 West_Asian 17.10
5 East_Asian 5.22
6 Sub-Saharan 3.81

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Hakas + 50% North_German @ 12.850308

 

[Gengar]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Siberian 26.19
2 Baltic 24.21
3 North_Atlantic 23.48
4 West_Asian 17.10
5 East_Asian 5.22
6 Sub-Saharan 3.81

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Hakas + 50% North_German @ 12.850308

Is that for gokturks? They are always drawn as east Asians jfl.

 

[Deleted member 13787]

Is that for gokturks? They are always drawn as east Asians jfl.

It is. Its makes sense that they were around half west eurasian, because modern day central asians are also significantly west eurasian and have R1a haplogroup
The entirety of central asia used to be popualted by nordics before they mixed with east asians.

 

[Gengar]

It is. Its makes sense that they were around half west eurasian, because modern day central asians are also significantly west eurasian and have R1a haplogroup
The entirety of central asia used to be popualted by nordics before they mixed with east asians.

Like I pointed out gokturks were only the first to use the name turk but they weren’t the first turks in that sense. Proto turks were definitely East Asian since their homeland is there.

 

[Deleted member 13787]

Like I pointed out gokturks were only the first to use the name turk but they weren’t the first turks in that sense. Proto turks were definitely East Asian since their homeland is there.

Nope. Xiongnu was already at least 40% west eurasian and had R1 Ydna

random xiongnu dna sample:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 26.69
2 East_Asian 23.38
3 Siberian 21.44
4 Gedrosia 17.61
5 Atlantic_Med 4.91
6 South_Asian 2.63
7 Southeast_Asian 1.98
8 Sub_Saharan 1.37

~50% west eurasian

Overwhelming majority west eurasian paternals:

 

[Deleted member 26535]

No, white-passing people aren’t white. Nordic and Germanic peoples are white. The rest aren’t.

fair enough. i wasnt claiming that turks are indistinguishable from those two groups (they sometimes are), just found it really off when people talk about turkey like it's UAE or something

 

[Deleted member 23017]

They're arabs

 

[Gengar]

fair enough. i wasnt claiming that turks are indistinguishable from those two groups (they sometimes are), just found it really off when people talk about turkey like it's UAE or something

I personally think Turks are European (even the part that's in Asia). Similarly we think Russians are European even though there's plenty of Russians living in Asia, very close to China. But I don't see Turks as white in the racial sense. Even the white-passing ones. They are basically Ottoman rape babies.

 

[Deleted member 17430]

I would agree that most are, but not all. It depends.

 

[Deleted member 26535]

I personally think Turks are European (even the part that's in Asia). Similarly we think Russians are European even though there's plenty of Russians living in Asia, very close to China. But I don't see Turks as white in the racial sense. Even the white-passing ones. They are basically Ottoman rape babies.

where are you from? i thought people perceived these two as basically synonyms, specially outside of the balkans

on another note ... sounds stupid, but i'd say football (UEFA) plays a big role in this (russians and turks being considered european more than they should be), since both are members of the european football association. same with israel and kazakhstan, which certainly aren't european countries by any criteria

 

[Deleted member 24167]

I personally think Turks are European (even the part that's in Asia). Similarly we think Russians are European even though there's plenty of Russians living in Asia, very close to China. But I don't see Turks as white in the racial sense. Even the white-passing ones. They are basically Ottoman rape babies.

Turks are not ottoman rape babies not even close.Oghuz turkic just mixed with anatolian greeks who were barely ancient greek but mixed of slavic and hittite.

 

[Deleted member 8869]

Because if they are not white, italians and spaniards are burkina faso tier fucking niggers

 

[Allandro]

italians and spaniards are burkina faso tier fucking niggers

WE ARE ARABS

 

[Deleted member 26535]

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surely these will give you above avg guys as a result, but it's the same for every country

i get that not every turk is a lightskinned psl 7, but apply the same standards to spain, italy, greece and some other european countries and you'll get 0 difference in swarthiness. most italians look like they were inbred, god knows how did they get their rep of being sexually attractive

 

[Deleted member 8869]

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surely these will give you above avg guys as a result, but it's the same for every country

i get that not every turk is a lightskinned psl 7, but apply the same standards to spain, italy, greece and some other european countries and you'll get 0 difference in swarthiness. most italians look like they were inbred, god knows how did they get their rep of being sexually attractive

yeah you retarded greycel i bet thats the average turkish man

 

[XtrovertNTnormalfag]

Here is a question to people who say Turks are not white:
Do you believe that anatolian Greeks are white, and if they are, how come Turks aren't?

 

[Deleted member 26535]

XtrovertNTnormalfag​

please tell me you are not extrovertedNTnormalfag from prime lookism. just deny it even if it's true.

@David Rothschild, what is this? who is next, lana cel rey and gottthagod?

 

[XtrovertNTnormalfag]

please tell me you are not extrovertedNTnormalfag from prime lookism. just deny it even if it's true.

@David Rothschild, what is this? who is next, lana cel rey and gottthagod?

Yes it is me, the most extroverted, funny and sociable human in universe.
I came back in this dark times for mankind to share my vast life knowlege and experience.

 

[Deleted member 26535]

Yes it is me, the most extroverted, funny and sociable human in universe.
I came back in this dark times for mankind to share my vast life knowlege and experience.

say no more

 

[Deleted member 23778]

Here is a question to people who say Turks are not white:
Do you believe that anatolian Greeks are white, and if they are, how come Turks aren't?

No Greek is or ever has been White

 

[Deleted member 23100]

No, white-passing people aren’t white. Nordic and Germanic peoples are white. The rest aren’t.

this sounds tricky. what would you consider Germanic? there are four phenotypes according to Hitler

 

[Gengar]

this sounds tricky. what would you consider Germanic? there are four phenotypes according to Hitler

Germanic = anyone whose ancestors are from Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium. I would also have to add Celtic to the list and Anglo-Saxon.

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

thats almost like asking if americans or brazilians are white,

This is the case for every country though. Citizenship, spoken language and ethnicity doesn't line up. There is no ethnicities actually. Just Looks.

Turkey isnt a racial state like those in Europe, Africa and Asia, it's unique cause Anatolia is the crossroad of civiliazation, it was the US before the US was a thing. Turks come in lots of shades, they are obvioslly not brown (hate this pseudoscientific word, originally used for fucking abos and dalits) but how would you say white either? Turkey should be avoided when talking about race entirely

 

[Artemis]

Because if they are not white, italians and spaniards are burkina faso tier fucking niggers

But not all Turks look like that, right?

This is NOT even the AVERAGE... i was in Turkey, and not trying to be douche, they look very non-european for the most part...

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

where are you from? i thought people perceived these two as basically synonyms, specially outside of the balkans

on another note ... sounds stupid, but i'd say football (UEFA) plays a big role in this (russians and turks being considered european more than they should be), since both are members of the european football association. same with israel and kazakhstan, which certainly aren't european countries by any criteria

this sounds tricky. what would you consider Germanic? there are four phenotypes according to Hitler

No Greek is or ever has been White

Are Uzbeks/Turkmens etc white? No, thus original Turkish Turks are also not white, just mixed with Southeast Europeans.

 

[TsarTsar444]

This is the case for every country though. Citizenship, spoken language and ethnicity doesn't line up. There is no ethnicities actually. Just Looks.

I mean thats just technically true, but in reality European people are based on strong rooted racial ethnicity identity, a turk will never be a real german for example, everyone knows what a real german is etc