can you eat fish organs

[TheLooxMaxingKing]

i be fishing alot in the summer and only eat the meat sometimes cooked sometimes raw, but i was thinking could i use the organs or the body for something, so i would not have to throw it away.
I mean i eat cows liver for example so why i could not eat fish liver? does anyone know about this lol

 

[JoChico]

hahahah yea ofcourse vegetables are for slaves but im scared to try dem fish organs, ik a guy from sweden who eats dem raw after fishing and he seems to be fine tho

im so happy that i found this guy. i already have a mtn face and will get a BSSO and Genioplasty in september because i wasnt breastfed as a child. which equals bad development/ malnourishment. im rn 18 y old and my skin has improved a lot and i stopped using garbage products

 

[TheLooxMaxingKing]

Y'know what they say about stupid people and their self-perception of intelligence?

stfuu nerd

 

[JoChico]

Y'know what they say about stupid people and their self-perception of intelligence?

tell me about it bro. this u btw?

 

[Zeekie]

tell me about it bro. this u btw? View attachment 3755194

The one who's using actual nutritional databases to disprove your stupid ass point, yes?

Actually know what, this ain't even worth anybody's time. You just can't win an argument against stupid people, specially when they deny scientific and medical knowledge right to their face in favor of anecdotal "evidence", if the world worked like that then I could claim the earth was flat and no one could deny that. But you figure it out.

I eat meat, fish, fruits, vegetables, my testosterone high, I'm probably more muscular and stronger than you are, my blood tests are come out clean and I couldn't feel better, if you think your diet works out for you, then so be it.

Goodbye

 

[JoChico]

The one who's using actual nutritional databases to disprove your stupid ass point, yes?

Actually know what, this ain't even worth anybody's time. You just can't win an argument against stupid people, specially when they deny evidence right to their face in the face in favor of anecdotal "evidence", if the world worked like then I could claim the earth was flat and no one could deny that. But you figure it out.

I eat meat, fish, fruits, vegetables, my testosterone high, I'm probably more muscular and stronger than you are, my blood tests are come out clean and I couldn't feel better, if you think your diet works out for you, then so be it.

Goodbye

its not a diet u stupid retard. omg bro. he he he, diets are man made, eating like a natural human being isnt a diet.
oh my goodness bro u are too far gone. i hope ull find happiness in your life tbh

 

[Tyler1]

The one who's using actual nutritional databases to disprove your stupid ass point, yes?

Actually know what, this ain't even worth anybody's time. You just can't win an argument against stupid people, specially when they deny scientific and medical knowledge right to their face in favor of anecdotal "evidence", if the world worked like that then I could claim the earth was flat and no one could deny that. But you figure it out.

I eat meat, fish, fruits, vegetables, my testosterone high, I'm probably more muscular and stronger than you are, my blood tests are come out clean and I couldn't feel better, if you think your diet works out for you, then so be it.

Goodbye

Man there has never been a case of vitamin A poisoning you are ignorant

 

[JoChico]

Man there has never been a case of vitamin A poisoning you are ignorant

you can only can get sick if u literally overdose vitamin A injected into your body, which again ( is unatural) just learned this from your video link btw

 

[Zeekie]

its not a diet u stupid retard. omg bro. he he he, diets are man made, eating like a natural human being isnt a diet.
oh my goodness bro u are too far gone. i hope ull find happiness in your life tbh

That's like saying colors don't exist and that they're man-made. You're following a diet but refusing to call it that. Any set of dietary regulations is by definition a diet. Diet is just a word we use to categorize and differentiate them

 

[Zeekie]

Man there has never been a case of vitamin A poisoning you are ignorant

By the way, yes, yes there have been, many in fact. You just haven't bothered looking into the literature, all it takes is a quick search on PubMed. For instance:

 

[Tyler1]

By the way, yes, yes there have been, many in fact. You just haven't bothered looking into the literature, all it takes is a quick search on PubMed. For instance:
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Some symptoms do not match her vitamin A toxicity and it does not say she has taken synthetic supplements prob yes

It was also not caused by liver
Proof:

Also her liver was already stressed due to prolonged restriction and possibly malnutrition, which could impair vitamin A metabolism.

 

[Zeekie]

Some symptoms do not match her vitamin A toxicity and it does not say she has taken synthetic supplements prob yes

It was also not caused by liver
Proof:
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Also her liver was already stressed due to prolonged restriction and possibly malnutrition, which could impair vitamin A metabolism.

Anything but admitting your wrong lmao, medical doctors, people with years of studies, and definitely more knowledge than the one you got from a YouTube video from a guy who eats rotten, spoiled meat, determined it to be hypervitaminosis A. Ignoring that...

You're cherry-picking words from the study here, read the whole thing, or in fact, read past the abstract of the paper, throughout the doctors explicitly state that her liver consumption was also a primary aggravator of the toxicity. Either way, whether it was beta-carotene or not doesn't matter, because that alone disproves your argument, beta-carotene is converted into retinol by the body (yeah, the same retinol found in beef liver, which animals make through the exact same method), so the underlying issue was hypervitaminosis A induced by too much retinol gotten through beta-carotene and beef liver.

"Also, her liver was already stressed due to prolonged restriction and possibly malnutrition, which could impair vitamin A metabolism." Still, she got the hypervitaminosis. When your thesis was that you CANNOT possibly get it through dietary sources.

 

[Zeekie]

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The paper does state something true, hypervitaminosis A through dietary source is very rare, it USUALLY only happens through supplements, but key word USUALLY means a lot here... The fact that it isn't common to occur through food doesn't mean it's impossible, specially when consumed the way you guys apparently do it. This was through fish liver as well, which, as I stated, much higher contents of vitamin A than ruminant livers.

Also, as the rest of the research suggest, and the Japanese study on the lady that I mentioned before, hypervitaminosis A (or of any kind) is a condition that takes a long time to settle and depends heavily on how much is being consumed, it can happen anywhere from a few days, to even a couple of years. The vitamin A is going to accumulate in your fat tissue, and you're eventually going to reach a point where it becomes problematic.

Again, PLEASE RECONSIDER HOW YOU'RE EATING, FOR YOUR OWN SAKE. I'm not saying don't eat it, I'm not saying don't eat meat, but do it fucking sensibly. It is NOT true that you cannot get hypervitaminosis from liver, it just isn't common (because most sane human beings aren't consuming 1kg a day) and takes a while.

 

[Tyler1]

Anything but admitting your wrong lmao, medical doctors, people with years of studies, and definitely more knowledge than the one you got from a YouTube video from a guy who eats rotten, spoiled meat, determined it to be hypervitaminosis A. Ignoring that...

You're cherry-picking words from the study here, read the whole thing, or in fact, read past the abstract of the paper, throughout the doctors explicitly state that her liver consumption was also a primary aggravator of the toxicity. Either way, whether it was beta-carotene or not doesn't matter, because that alone disproves your argument, beta-carotene is converted into retinol by the body (yeah, the same retinol found in beef liver, which animals make through the exact same method), so the underlying issue was hypervitaminosis A induced by too much retinol gotten through beta-carotene and beef liver.

"Also, her liver was already stressed due to prolonged restriction and possibly malnutrition, which could impair vitamin A metabolism." Still, she got the hypervitaminosis. When your thesis was that you CANNOT possibly get it through dietary sources.

tbh I don't even know how it works with beta carotene because half the people can't convert beta carotene to retinol vitamin A anyway that just proves that we are not meant to eat it we are meant to get vitamin A from animals

But vitamin A toxicity is not possible to get from animal products there is no proof of that and sv3rige has also explained why

 

[Tyler1]

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The paper does state something true, hypervitaminosis A through dietary source is very rare, it USUALLY only happens through supplements

Because you can’t get vitamin poisoning from animal products bro

 

[Zeekie]

Because you can’t get vitamin poisoning from animal products bro

My brother in Christ, you literally just saw a case report analyzing how it occurred to 3 people...

 

[Zeekie]

tbh I don't even know how it works with beta carotene because half the people can't convert beta carotene to retinol vitamin A anyway that just proves that we are not meant to eat it we are meant to get vitamin A from animals

But vitamin A toxicity is not possible to get from animal products there is no proof of that and sv3rige has also explained why

No.. most people can convert it, some people's organisms just are very bad at it, but these people are exceptions and not the rule, most humans don't struggle at all to convert beta-carotene into retinol. That's like saying because diabetics have struggle with insulin, that's evidence that we don't need.. It's a huge stretch.

Also, it doesn't really matter what sv3rige says, what matters is what the research shows, what HAS in fact occurred, and what basically NO MEDICINAL PROFESSIONAL IN ANY FUCKING FIELD is trying to debate.

 

[Tyler1]

My brother in Christ, you literally just saw a case report analyzing how it occurred to 3 people...

No it’s the heavy metals in the oceans and the heavy metals are stored in the livers fish.

 

[slaters]

i be fishing alot in the summer and only eat the meat sometimes cooked sometimes raw, but i was thinking could i use the organs or the body for something, so i would not have to throw it away.
I mean i eat cows liver for example so why i could not eat fish liver? does anyone know about this lol

Idk look it up
Lmk if it tastes like shit

 

[Zeekie]

No it’s the heavy metals in the oceans and the heavy metals are stored in the livers fish.

It was my fault for trying to continue the conversation... You win, I'm not even going to bother.

 

[Tyler1]

No.. most people can convert it, some people's organisms just are very bad at it, but these people are exceptions and not the rule, most humans don't struggle at all to convert beta-carotene into retinol. That's like saying because diabetics have struggle with insulin, that's evidence that we don't need.. It's a huge stretch.

50% of uk women cannot convert beta carotene has been proven in studies

And the others can only convert very little 1/16

 

[Zeekie]

50% of uk women cannot convert beta carotene has been proven in studies

And the others can only convert very little 1/16

ACTUALLY FUCK NO, LETS RUN IT BACK. WHAT THE HELL DO YOU MEAN IT WAS THE HEAVY METALS?

Okay so your take is that the elevated serum levels of retinol, were caused by the heavy metals? What the fuck even is the biological mechanism for? That's sarcasm, by the way. The only POSSIBLE thing that could have caused a high retinol content, was dietary retinol, and guess where they got it from? Had it been the heavy metals, and then they would have been the heavy metals and their serum retinol content would be within the normal ranges, but they were in the range that's determined to be associated with vitamin A toxicity (>100 mcg/dL)

Heavy metal poisoning and hypervitaminosis A do have overlapping symptoms, but had it been that and they would have also noticed the dangerous levels of heavy metals in the blood and not the retinol content.

 

[Tyler1]

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It was my fault for trying to continue the conversation... You win, I'm not even going to bother.

lol

But it's true look at arguments on the other side you only consume one side

 

[Tyler1]

ACTUALLY FUCK NO, LETS RUN IT BACK. WHAT THE HELL DO YOU MEAN IT WAS THE HEAVY METALS?

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Okay so your take is that the elevated serum levels of retinol, were caused by the heavy metals? What the fuck even is the biological mechanism for? That's sarcasm, by the way. The only POSSIBLE thing that could have caused a high retinol content, was dietary retinol, and guess where they got it from? Had it been the heavy metals, and then they would have been the heavy metals and their serum retinol content would be within the normal ranges, but they were in the range that's determined to be associated with vitamin A toxicity (>100 mcg/dL)

Heavy metal poisoning and hypervitaminosis A do have overlapping symptoms, but had it been that and they would have also noticed the dangerous levels of heavy metals in the blood and not the retinol content.

High vitamin A in the blood does not mean vitamin A poisoning

Bro lets just stop I’m tired

 

[Zeekie]

50% of uk women cannot convert beta carotene has been proven in studies

And the others can only convert very little 1/16

By the way, this is the study you're referencing, and you clearly did NOT read it.

Again, what the study actually determined is that around 50% of these women could not PROPERLY convert beta-carotene into retinol, that's very different from saying that they CANNOT convert it. And even then, the variations in conversion efficiency were of around 32% to 69%, again they're still converting it, it's just that due to their genetic makeup their bodies isn't as good at it.

But let me re-iterate, "bad conversion" isn't the same as "cannot convert"

 

[Zeekie]

lol

But it's true look at arguments on the other side you only consume one side

Because the other side doesn't have argument, they have claims and anecdotes, which aren't usable evidence. The only relevant body of evidence with any level of credibility says that you're wrong...

 

[Zeekie]

High vitamin A in the blood does not mean vitamin A poisoning

Bro lets just stop I’m tired

Do you know what the definition of hypervitaminosis is? Vitamin A toxicity occurs when blood levels of retinol exceed the body’s safe threshold. The "safe threshold" is a biologically hard determined measurement, high levels of retinol in the blood over a certain amount are medically called "hypervitaminosis A".

These people had levels above the safe threshold, therefore, they had hypervitaminosis A.

 

[Tyler1]

By the way, this is the study you're referencing, and you clearly did NOT read it.

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Again, what the study actually determined is that around 50% of these women could not PROPERLY convert beta-carotene into retinol, that's very different from saying that they CANNOT convert it. And even then, the variations in conversion efficiency were of around 32% to 69%, again they're still converting it, it's just that due to their genetic makeup their bodies isn't as good at it.

But let me re-iterate, "bad conversion" isn't the same as "cannot convert"

Give me link of this study and the one with the fish liver too

 

[Zeekie]

Give me link of this study and the one with the fish liver too

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32861618/ or PMID: 32861618
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10424294/ or PMID: 10424294

https://faseb.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1096/fj.08-121962

 

[Tyler1]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32861618/ or PMID: 32861618
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10424294/ or PMID: 10424294

https://faseb.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1096/fj.08-121962

Is there no information about the fish liver? Wasn't it looked at what was in there?

And about beta carotene you can hardly convert it you argue like a vegan I can send you a video where it is exactly proven

 

[Zeekie]

Is there no information about the fish liver? Wasn't it looked at what was in there?

And about beta carotene you can hardly convert it you argue like a vegan I can send you a video where it is exactly proven

Fish liver was mentioned 7 times btw.

Also, yeah, I'd love to see a video about it.

BUT "can hardly be converted" is a bit of a stretch, the study which you quoted by the way, only took a small sample size of women in the UK, there have been other studies, and men luckily don't suffer from this issue as much, we're better at beta-carotene conversion than women are. But even if the conversion's bad, it's not detrimental, the highest that was detected was a 69% decrease, which is significant, but it's not exactly detrimental. Either way, you cannot back out from your argument, you were referencing that study, and that's what it says.

 

[Zeekie]

Is there no information about the fish liver? Wasn't it looked at what was in there?

And about beta carotene you can hardly convert it you argue like a vegan I can send you a video where it is exactly proven

Actually, you're right, I'm tired of this too, and apparently we won't be getting anywhere. My whole point is, eat however you want bro, it's your body, but you have to understand very well that all the evidence AND I MEAN REAL EVIDENCE, WHAT A SCHIZO ONLINE SAYS IS NOT EVIDENCE, you know what real evidence is? Case reports in medical settings, where doctors have observed, diagnosed and treated cases of the very thing you're denying and published the findings on credible and trusted scientific portals such as PubMed.

There's simply no denying the facts. You're not holding onto evidence or arguments, you're holding onto an ideology and anecdotes, claims, things anyone can say online, and that's an issue because that very same ideology could land you in a hospital with nausea, vomiting and headaches, or in the worst, unlikely case scenario, could even kill you. That is not safe for yourself, and not moral to suggest to others, it's dangerous.

When was the last time you got a blood sample done and got your analysis inspected by a doctor? I highly recommend you do it one of these days to make sure there's nothing wrong with you.

I'll give you something, it's very hard to get hypervitaminosis from liver IN THE SHORT-TERM, maybe in 1 to 2 years time we'll tell, but it is very easy to get it from fish liver and it's something you shouldn't do. It can be eaten, of course, but in safe quantities.

Again, I don't mean this like a personal attack, it's a real concern about your safety and health bro.

 

[Tyler1]

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Fish liver was mentioned 7 times btw.

But the fish liver was not analyzed and was immediately thrown in the garbage right? so the doctors can only theorize
"yeah the symptoms and retinol was high in the child it was the vitamin A!!!!“

Also, yeah, I'd love to see a video about it.

You can find these videos on rumble at sv3rige where he debunks veganism in minutes easy to find, I'm not giving it here because I don't want to discuss it anymore