Cancelled My Jaw Surgery Consult Giving Up On Surgery and Hardmaxxing, Due to Poor Facial Harmony, Hoping Future Surgery Techniques Will Save Me

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Surgery is cope, if you are ugly surgery will not ascend you unless you have one glaring flaw or a deformity. And if you are normie tier you don't need it and it will reduce your facial harmony. Of course if you are genuinely good looking you wouldn't be thinking about it unless you have BDD.

I realized this after truly analyzing my features, there's no way to upgrade my facial harmony/phenotype currently. It can't even be analyzed what kind of improvements are needed by a surgeon who is generally bluepilled. The ability to visualize what kind of feature will go well with another feature along with the bone structure and skin, is an impossible feat.

But to understand what I am talking about, assume that you take the eyes of chico, combine it with the eyebrows of gandy, the nose of tom cruise and the lips of Brad pitt, the result would look uncanny and repulsive despite all the features being objectively attractive. That's the issue I have and that's why it's unfixable with surgery.

In fact, I believe that getting surgery with Taban was a mistake, despite getting decent results, it didn't bring me up overall at all and reduced my facial harmony.

Thanks to @yuyu for the inspiration to rot.
 
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cope. You're just scared of bimax
 
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cope. You're just scared of bimax
Look at my pictures, if you can figure out why my nose, eyebrows, lips and eyes don't go well together and then explain what it would take to make it go well together, I will reconsider.
 
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Your nose is gigantic, you're probably short and your pheno is utter shit. You need to bleachmax, drastically reduce your nose as it is literally wider than your mouth and LL if you're low inhib
 
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Your nose is gigantic, you're probably short and your pheno is utter shit. You need to bleachmax, drastically reduce your nose as it is literally wider than your mouth and LL if you're low inhib
My nose is wide but it's not wider than my mouth, I think you are confusing my cheeks sucked in photo. My height is average 69-70 inches.
 
Your nose is gigantic, you're probably short and your pheno is utter shit. You need to bleachmax, drastically reduce your nose as it is literally wider than your mouth and LL if you're low inhib
You are essentially correct about rhino except most of that is thick nose skin, so accutane might reduce thickness and treat cystic acne. Except I have actually been through a course of accutane my nose did become narrower, and the acne went away. However, it came back and my nose got thicker again. You mention that my phenotype is utter shit and I agree. The problem is just rhinoplasty and bleaching skin won't fix it.
 
You are essentially correct about rhino except most of that is thick nose skin, so accutane might reduce thickness and treat cystic acne. Except I have actually been through a course of accutane my nose did become narrower, and the acne went away. However, it came back and my nose got thicker again. You mention that my phenotype is utter shit and I agree. The problem is just rhinoplasty and bleaching skin won't fix it.
You need to fix your pheno by looking mediterranean like Morrone. You need a beard, height, muscles and shit
 
cope. You're just scared of bimax
I made the same choice as OP when offered free lf1 and SARPE. it is pointless tbh if you are deformed esp with downgrowth and lack of facial harmony overall, little to no reedeemable features you are putting yourself at unnessecary risk and this is coming from someone who has had a cranioctemy
 
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I made the same choice as OP when offered free lf1 and SARPE. it is pointless tbh if you are deformed esp with downgrowth and lack of facial harmony overall, little to no reedeemable features you are putting yourself at unnessecary risk and this is coming from someone who has had a cranioctemy
I might have taken it if it was free tbh. Could you see my pics and tell me whether you think I am making the right choice?
 
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I might have taken it if it was free tbh. Could you see my pics and tell me whether you think I am making the right choice?
I think before you do anything, you need to lose weight and then decide
 
I think before you do anything, you need to lose weight and then decide
Did you see the lean pic before I got surgery with Taban?
 
did you post your results with taban?
All the recent pics are after taban. You can see my almond eye shape and slightly better under-eye area, though the latter is covered by fat.
 
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You need to fix your pheno by looking mediterranean like Morrone. You need a beard, height, muscles and shit
Can't grow a beard only a neckbeard.
 
Boyo, I looked at your pictures and I think you
Surgery is cope, if you are ugly surgery will not ascend you unless you have one glaring flaw or a deformity. And if you are normie tier you don't need it and it will reduce your facial harmony. Of course if you are genuinely good looking you wouldn't be thinking about it unless you have BDD.

I realized this after truly analyzing my features, there's no way to upgrade my facial harmony/phenotype currently. It can't even be analyzed what kind of improvements are needed by a surgeon who is generally bluepilled. The ability to visualize what kind of feature will go well with another feature along with the bone structure and skin, is an impossible feat.

But to understand what I am talking about, assume that you take the eyes of chico, combine it with the eyebrows of gandy, the nose of tom cruise and the lips of Brad pitt, the result would look uncanny and repulsive despite all the features being objectively attractive. That's the issue I have and that's why it's unfixable with surgery.

In fact, I believe that getting surgery with Taban was a mistake, despite getting decent results, it didn't bring me up overall at all and reduced my facial harmony.

Thanks to @yuyu for the inspiration to rot.
Ok, boyo, I often don’t post anything because I don’t have time but your desperation made me do it (I know you are desperate because of nonsense such as “Surgery is cope”). I’m knowledgeable and I was very active on Lookism.net. Anyway, I looked at the picture that you said you were thin in it and this is what I think you need:
Hair transplant to reduce the length and width of your forehead;
Maybe temporal reduction;
Rhinoplasty (your nose has very thick skin, so maybe it won’t be possible for the surgeon to shape it to an ideal with only one surgery.);
Mouth widening surgery, because your mouth is short;
Vermillion advancement, to increase the size of your lips;
Genioplasty to increase the vertical length of your chin.

Regarding your height and skin color, as I don’t know where you live, I can’t comment on that, because it really depends on your location (for example, in my country your skin color would be considered attractive).
 
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Being uncanny better than being deformed or ugly
 

Jfl I am literally a brahmin and have light skin and a north Indian phenotype as a south Indian. Still ugly and over.
 
The face looks very short and you have a very bulbous and wide nose-

and yes even with thick skin you can improve a bulbous nose with rhino- its just youll never get a super sharp pointy nose like soemone with thin skin with.

Youre actually a pretty good candidate for surgerymaxxing because youve got several clear failos that are surgically fixable rsther than someone whos just plain ugly without any clear deformities/stand out bad features
 
You can’t say shit unless you’re lean, and you’re not.
 
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Bro how do you know you even need bimax? If you indeed need it you should do it for health reasons
 
Bro how do you know you even need bimax? If you indeed need it you should do it for health reasons
I have sleep apnea and jaw surgery might permanently solve it instead of using shitty CPAP machine.
 
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I have sleep apnea and jaw surgery might permanently solve it instead of using shitty CPAP machine.
Holy shit. That's a no brainer. I did mine recently for the same issue and it was completely worth it
 
Holy shit. That's a no brainer. I did mine recently for the same issue and it was completely worth it
Except my sleep apnea is mild according to sleep study though I am significantly overweight compared to when I underwent the sleep study.
 
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My nose is wide but it's not wider than my mouth, I think you are confusing my cheeks sucked in photo. My height is average 69-70 inches.
What kind of retard says his height in INCHES??
 
Look at my old thin picture https://looksmax.org/threads/got-ra...nd-to-my-opening-message.619132/#post-9964488. I can also send you one of me sucking in my cheeks.
I'm not an expert, but after looking at your pic in that thread, I think you might have short face syndrome. Coupled with the fact that you have sleep apnea, I would consider getting bimax, since SFS cases are among the ones that benefit the most from this procedure aesthetically.

Example:


If I were you, I'd try to get bimax + rhino. Although it'd be expensive, probably over $30k with a good surgeon.
 
You were going to consult a jaw surgeon before you finished leaning out? Have you not learned anything from your trip to Taban?
 
Sir, you are fat.
Holy fucking shit there's no hope for some people on this forum.

Not because the guy was fucked from birth. JFL at even considering serious hardmaxxing before undisupitably maxxing out your natural potential.


OP you're willing to let people cut your face open for the chance at becoming more attractive to girls, but dropping to low BF% is where you draw the line?
 
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Except my sleep apnea is mild according to sleep study though I am significantly overweight compared to when I underwent the sleep study.
Bro you literally need a machine to breathe while you sleep :lul::lul::lul:. just cyborgmaxx theory
 
Nope. Toni mahfud looks Uncanny af, and foids are still lusting after him
He doesn't look that uncanny, though he's weird looking. He's chad tier that's why, jfl if you think surgery can make you or me look like him, it's simply impossible.
 
He doesn't look that uncanny, though he's weird looking. He's chad tier that's why, jfl if you think surgery can make you or me look like him, it's simply impossible.
Pff you’re stupid ethnic not gonna argue
 
U look like Salludon if he was ugly
 

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