Cantho Plasty/Plexy Surgeries (Endoscopic Lift)

[MogEater]

Hello, there’s a lot of misinformation about canthopexy and not enough accurate information about the endoscopic temporal lift. I’d like to clarify these procedures and explain the key differences.

Canthoplasty, Canthopexy, and Endoscopic Temporal Lift​

Canthoplasty
Canthoplasty is a surgical procedure that can also be performed during lower eyelid reduction. Its main purpose is to reshape or reconstruct the lateral canthus to improve eyelid function and aesthetics.

Canthopexy
There is a lot of misunderstanding about canthopexy. Many surgeries are incorrectly referred to as canthopexy, even though they are completely unrelated procedures.

• True canthopexy is actually a technique where, through a small incision near the lateral side of the eye, the lower eyelid is supported or lifted without dissecting or detaching the lower eyelid tissues.
• It’s essentially a way to create a subtle canthal tilt or lift, focusing on the lateral canthal area only.

Endoscopic Temporal Lift
The endoscopic temporal lift is similar to canthopexy, but the main goal is not specifically to affect the canthal tilt as much as in canthopexy.

• While both procedures can create a lifting effect, canthopexy is more targeted at achieving a more positive (upward) canthal tilt.
• The endoscopic temporal lift lifts the temporal area, but does not impact the canthal tilt as strongly as canthopexy does.

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Honorable Mention – Endoscopic Temporal Lift
If it’s done properly, it probably gives more striking eyes than full infraorbital-malar implants do. I’m here with proof.

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Honestly, I think this is one of the best surgeries for making someone go from “mtn” to “cl” But it depends on your face. If you have a slightly negative tilt, a very elastic face, and already have horizontal eyes with slight scleral show, this could be the perfect surgery to fix all of that.

Note:
For endoscopic lifts, I mostly use Turkish surgeons for exemple. Their price range is $2,000–$6,000 USD for an endoscopic temporal-midface lift.

 

[danilioqqq]

repped

 

[danilioqqq]

I'm getting botox in the temporal area to get a more positive CT soon
Will hopefully ascend, can't afford surgery yet

 

[flatcheck213]

Canthopexy mogs

 

[NotaChadyet]

Mirin

 

[lurking truecel]

Looks like girl surgeries

 

[nordwoodascender2]

I'm getting botox in the temporal area to get a more positive CT soon
Will hopefully ascend, can't afford surgery yet

yo bro can you explain exactly how this works i recently got botox near my eye brows to get a lift but it didn’t really give a prominent effect

 

[MogEater]

I'm getting botox in the temporal area to get a more positive CT soon
Will hopefully ascend, can't afford surgery yet

dont forget its gonna give more eyebrow lift then the eye

 

[MogEater]

Canthopexy mogs

if its combine with endescopic lift, literally gatekeep mothed.

 

[MogEater]

Looks like girl surgeries

No, but it depends on your face. I’m not hypermasculine and I don’t like looking like I’m on roids on 20 years, so yeah, it depends. But these are surgeries there’s no such thing as “girl” plastic surgeries.

This is a Turkish man who has only undergone an endoscopic temporal lift he hasn’t even had canthopexy. In my opinion, he definitely needs something more than just an endoscopic lift. His features, his skin tone and age are not ideal for just an endoscopic lift alone. Endoscopic lifts are more likely to provide a brow and lateral and under eye area lift, rather than actually lifting the eyes/canthal tilt themselves. The result would be much better if combined with canthoplasty or canthopexy, and, of course, fat transfer. With only an endoscopic lift, the result can look quite uncanny. However, it’s important to remember that there is always a healing period after these surgeries, and sometimes the final result can improve over time.

 

[flatcheck213]

Looks like girl surgeries

 

[tweaqo]

Nice thread.

What’s your opinion on the best option for someone who has a droopy lower lid, some scleral show below the pupil but most of the scleral show near the lateral canthus, but still with a slight positive canthal tilt.

Could a canthoplasty alone fix this, there’s so many different procedures I still can’t decide which is best for me.

 

[MogEater]

Nice thread.

What’s your opinion on the best option for someone who has a droopy lower lid, some scleral show below the pupil but most of the scleral show near the lateral canthus, but still with a slight positive canthal tilt.

Could a canthoplasty alone fix this, there’s so many different procedures I still can’t decide which is best for me.

I’ll probably go with canthoplasty first. After healing, if I’m not happy with the results, I might consider canthopexy with an endoscopic facelift.

 

[tweaqo]

I’ll probably go with canthoplasty first. After healing, if I’m not happy with the results, I might consider canthopexy with an endoscopic facelift.

Can I pm you

 

[MogEater]

Can I pm you

ofc

 

[danilioqqq]

dont forget its gonna give more eyebrow lift then the eye

yeah I expressed my concern about that and my cosmetologist said that we can leave the brow pretty much where it is (tho I wouldn't mind 2-3* more positive)

Idk how she's gonna do that but I hope that she will. She seems to know what she's doing

 

[MogEater]

yeah I expressed my concern about that and my cosmetologist said that we can leave the brow pretty much where it is (tho I wouldn't mind 2-3* more positive)

Idk how she's gonna do that but I hope that she will. She seems to know what she's doing

i want to see ur results.

 

[danilioqqq]

i want to see ur results.

will share if not botched
will let know if botched

next tuesday (24th june)

 

[key]

For endoscopic lifts, I mostly use Turkish surgeons for exemple

mirin high effort but I'd stay the fuck away from Turkish surgeons offering endoscopic temporal lifts.

I've consulted 4 of the so called "best" and all of them we're woefully uninformed about the temporal lift and its affect on the lateral canthus, thats because they specialize in endoscopic brow lifts, where the incision is made in the hairline or just above it. A real temporal or "lateral brow lift", targets the orbicularis, the skin and underlying soft tissue are lifted from an incision made along the line of your hair adjacent to your temples.

This surgery only works if you don't scar easily, if you do, you will have these huge unobscured scars along either side of your face.

The best solution for targeting the canthus is lower lid retraction, but its hard to find surgeons who can perform this consistently well. And the turkish surgeons are just too inconsistent.

Here's what a real lateral temporal lift looks like (one of Pascali's patients, he wrote a paper on this), notice how the brows are only slightly lifted from their most lateral point, and how the procedure didn't create MORE uee (which is one of the main reasons men shouldn't get endoscopic brow lifts which is what all those turkish surgeons offer, you will look retarded). The lift was mostly lateral, with a slight vertical elevation.

 

[MogEater]

mirin high effort but I'd stay the fuck away from Turkish surgeons offering endoscopic temporal lifts.

I've consulted 4 of the so called "best" and all of them we're woefully uninformed about the temporal lift and its affect on the lateral canthus, thats because they specialize in endoscopic brow lifts, where the incision is made in the hairline or just above it. A real temporal or "lateral brow lift", targets the orbicularis, the skin and underlying soft tissue are lifted from an incision made along the line of your hair adjacent to your temples.

This surgery only works if you don't scar easily, if you do, you will have these huge unobscured scars along either side of your face.

The best solution for targeting the canthus is lower lid retraction, but its hard to find surgeons who can perform this consistently well. And the turkish surgeons are just too inconsistent.

Here's what a real lateral temporal lift looks like (one of Pascali's patients, he wrote a paper on this), notice how the brows are only slightly lifted from their most lateral point, and how the procedure didn't create MORE uee (which is one of the main reasons men shouldn't get endoscopic brow lifts which is what all those turkish surgeons offer, you will look retarded). The lift was mostly lateral, with a slight vertical elevation.

thank you brathaaar, nice comment.

I got it. The perfect temporal lift for achieving a mogger face should focus only on the eye area, not the eyebrow area maybe just slightly at the eyebrow corners. But I don’t get why Turkish surgeons can’t do that. I think it’s more about how the surgery is performed.

Can you explain with a technical image, please?”

btw how about this doctor? i see very good results.

 

[m0glit3]

What would be your recommendation for my eye area? The main concern I have with my eye area is that one eye is slightly negatively tilted while the other eye is neutrally tilted and my upper eyelids sag down on the outer corners of my eye giving it a tired and old look.

 

[MogEater]

thank you brathaaar, nice comment.

I got it. The perfect temporal lift for achieving a mogger face should focus only on the eye area, not the eyebrow area maybe just slightly at the eyebrow corners. But I don’t get why Turkish surgeons can’t do that. I think it’s more about how the surgery is performed.

Can you explain with a technical image, please?”

btw how about this doctor? i see very good results.

very good results but the price is 10k usd, idk is it worth it, most turkish surgeons is half the price.

 

[key]

Can you explain with a technical image, please?”

I consulted Gencer, he can perform the lateral lift targeting the orbicularis, but I've seen better results from Pascali and Albano, I'm not sure if this is intentional, but their work always seems to have amazing effects on the cheekbone, giving the patient a much more defined midface and noticeable ogee curve. Which is a nice bonus.

Also as for images, this is what a lateral temporal lift should look like. Again the scar cannot hidden so be aware.

 

[MogEater]

@maarda

 

[MogEater]

I consulted Gencer, he can perform the lateral lift targeting the orbicularis, but I've seen better results from Pascali and Albano, I'm not sure if this is intentional, but their work always seems to have amazing effects on the cheekbone, giving the patient a much more defined midface and noticeable ogee curve. Which is a nice bonus.

Also as for images, this is what a lateral temporal lift should look like. Again the scar cannot hidden so be aware.

what if we combine with cantho plasty/plexy?

 

[MogEater]

I consulted Gencer, he can perform the lateral lift targeting the orbicularis, but I've seen better results from Pascali and Albano, I'm not sure if this is intentional, but their work always seems to have amazing effects on the cheekbone, giving the patient a much more defined midface and noticeable ogee curve. Which is a nice bonus.

Also as for images, this is what a lateral temporal lift should look like. Again the scar cannot hidden so be aware.

very good results but the price is 10k usd, idk is it worth it, most turkish surgeons is half the price.

isnt overprice?

 

[key]

what if we combine with cantho plasty/plexy?

Its often combined with cantho or llr, its a great combination, one of the best surgery combos you can get if done right. Also yeah the italian surgeons are expensive as fuck but worth it imo, especially bernardini

 

[MogEater]

Its often combined with cantho or llr, its a great combination, one of the best surgery combos you can get if done right. Also yeah the italian surgeons are expensive as fuck but worth it imo, especially bernardini

how much?

 

[MogEater]

Its often combined with cantho or llr, its a great combination, one of the best surgery combos you can get if done right. Also yeah the italian surgeons are expensive as fuck but worth it imo, especially bernardini

btw, what about canthoplexy with true temporal lift? i mean would be unncessery i think. canthoplastyllr with temporal lift and fat enjeksition would be best i think,

One of my eyes is bigger and higher than the other. How can I understand which one is higher or lower? My X-rays don’t show that much asymmetry. Could fat cuz that much asymmetry, or is it about soft tissue and can it be handled with canthoplasty?
When I push my eyeballs or try to simulate canthoplasty, it looks perfect just a little push with a canthal tilt and there are “hunter eyes.”

 

[MogEater]

@key

 

[key]

how much?

I know bernardini charges 19,500 EUR for temporal, and 9,500 EUR for any lower lid procedure, so yeah very pricey.

My X-rays don’t show that much asymmetry.

That's because asymmetry in the eyes are almost always caused by soft tissue. One leviator muscle being weaker than the other, more periorbital fat around one eye, sleeping on your side since childhood etc. All these things contribute, you can dm a pic if you want and I'll give you my thoughts.

 

[MogEater]

I know bernardini charges 19,500 EUR for temporal, and 9,500 EUR for any lower lid procedure, so yeah very pricey.

That's because asymmetry in the eyes are almost always caused by soft tissue. One leviator muscle being weaker than the other, more periorbital fat around one eye, sleeping on your side since childhood etc. All these things contribute, you can dm a pic if you want and I'll give you my thoughts.

Thank you.


Right now, I have SARPE, and in about 12 months, once my teeth are ready, I’ll go ahead with Trimax. After I’ve healed, I’m planning a second surgery that will include a temporal and mid-face lift with canthoplasty and fat transfer.

But I don’t have the budget to go to the top doctor. For example, Mehmet Gençer has amazing results, but his prices are way too high — he’d probably charge me around $15,000. On the other hand, I can get Trimax (with a top rhinoplasty surgeon, custom guides for bimax and genio) for a maximum of $5,000.

If you were in my position, who would you choose?

 

[key]

I can get Trimax (with a top rhinoplasty surgeon, custom guides for bimax and genio) for a maximum of $5,000.

Thats crazy, who's your maxfac surgeon?

If you were in my position, who would you choose?

Remind me to dm you in a few months time, I have consultations with 3 oculoplastic surgeons in the next few months (none of them are known here), but all have incredible results, I will tell you who the best option is once I've spoken to each of them

 

[MogEater]

Thats crazy, who's your maxfac surgeon?

Remind me to dm you in a few months time, I have consultations with 3 oculoplastic surgeons in the next few months (none of them are known here), but all have incredible results, I will tell you who the best option is once I've spoken to each of them

I don’t know his name, but he works with my orthodontist, and I trust my orthodontist. He also works at the best university hospital in Turkey, which is a very big and important place. About rhinoplasty bro, I found the best nose job doctor in the world for men. He makes noses like Elias De Poot’s and Jordan’s they look kind of like model noses, a bit unnatural in a good way, but still somehow natural. It’s like his signature style. And for Turkish citizens, the price is super low, like around $1,600. Check PM's

 

[MogEater]

@key @danilioqqq @maarda

What about eyebrow botox for straight eyebrows? i getting temporal lift anyways, so before the surgery what about eyebrow straighten botox?

 

[Angutoid]

@key @danilioqqq @maarda

What about eyebrow botox for straight eyebrows? i getting temporal lift anyways, so before the surgery what about eyebrow straighten botox?

send brows in pm

 

[danilioqqq]

send brows in pm

?

 

[MogEater]

im dropped here, wait a secand.

 

[MogEater]

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[kingofkings]

thank you brathaaar, nice comment.

I got it. The perfect temporal lift for achieving a mogger face should focus only on the eye area, not the eyebrow area maybe just slightly at the eyebrow corners. But I don’t get why Turkish surgeons can’t do that. I think it’s more about how the surgery is performed.

Can you explain with a technical image, please?”

btw how about this doctor? i see very good results.

These are all awful results.

I think you've looked at too many eye surgery results and can no longer detect what looks natural and what looks obviously fake. These all look horribly stretched. On a man you'll look Bogged if you get a result like these.

 

[MogEater]

send brows in pm