Carbs are law

[Bitchwhipper2]

Getting crazy pumps, no bloat like I thought id be having and good energy

Carbs carbs carbs.

 

[jester]

Getting crazy pumps, no bloat like I thought id be having and good energy

Carbs carbs carbs.

only in moderation

 

[iblamexyz]

Getting crazy pumps, no bloat like I thought id be having and good energy

Carbs carbs carbs.

inb4 @Never Get Up roasts you

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

only in moderation

Nope.
Ditch all but your essential dietary fats in favor of carbs and high protein

 

[BrutalMogger]

you need to eat primal

 

[jester]

Nope.
Ditch all but your essential dietary fats in favor of carbs and high protein

only works if ur roiding

 

[Finnishmogger]

You should eat only as much protein and other macros as needed and the rest should be carbs

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

only works if ur roiding

Which i am

You should eat only as much protein and other macros as needed and the rest should be carbs

Yep yep yep.
I use to fall for muh fat good meme jfl

 

[Finnishmogger]

Yep yep yep.
I use to fall for muh fat good meme jfl

I didn’t know the importance of carbs either until recently. I have been progressing so fast after eating hella carbs before and during my workouts

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

I didn’t know the importance of carbs either until recently. I have been progressing so fast after eating hella carbs before and during my workouts

You recommend intraworkout carbs?

I always walk 3km to my gym and back so am probably depleted once I get there

 

[nsk4ll]

Getting crazy pumps, no bloat like I thought id be having and good energy

Carbs carbs carbs.

carbs are really tasty
but since am broke i started eating mostly eggs butter cheese milk and chicken
i still eat bread tho sometimes

 

[taai]

only works if ur roiding

Yes, but only for the protein part. More carbs: more energy. Energy to spend. You see professional cyclists often train their guts so they can take so much carbs per hour, otherwise they lose.

 

[Finnishmogger]

You recommend intraworkout carbs?

I always walk 3km to my gym and back so am probably depleted once I get there

Yes! I eat ~100g carbs an hour before the gym and 50g in the beginning of my workout.

 

[jester]

Yes, but only for the protein part. More carbs: more energy. Energy to spend. You see professional cyclists often train their guts so they can take so much carbs per hour, otherwise they lose.

nah i was talking about the fats part
also cyclists gotta have a big ass tank of energy, the average gymmaxed normie shouldn’t consume many carbs, only in moderation

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Yes! I eat ~100g carbs an hour before the gym and 50g in the beginning of my workout.

Ait, thanks buddy

 

[taai]

You recommend intraworkout carbs?

I always walk 3km to my gym and back so am probably depleted once I get there

If you are going to eat carbs intra workout, which I am not an expert in the context of gym, id say eat something that goes straight to your bloodstream, unironically white sugar is your friend.

 

[lblamemyse1f]

Carbs are law until i ate 100g carb snack before gym and ended up hitting heart prs like nothing. 210bpm 230bpm like a warrior

 

[Finnishmogger]

Ait, thanks buddy

You should probably eat more carbs tho since I believe you’re bigger than me

 

[Finnishmogger]

If you are going to eat carbs intra workout, which I am not an expert in the context of gym, id say eat something that goes straight to your bloodstream, unironically white sugar is your friend.

Yea something fast digesting. Rice cakes work for me.

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

If you are going to eat carbs intra workout, which I am not an expert in the context of gym, id say eat something that goes straight to your bloodstream, unironically white sugar is your friend.

I fear sugar cause of fructose tbh

Yea something fast digesting. Rice cakes work for me.

Copping ts.
Ricecakes fr fr, thanks buddy

 

[taai]

nah i was talking about the fats part
also cyclists gotta have a big ass tank of energy, the average gymmaxed normie shouldn’t consume many carbs, only in moderation

Yep of course I meant it to really show that carbs aren't necessarily just a nutritional value but pure fuel that can go in and out.

 

[ybuyhgui]

only works if ur roiding

Why do I always see you giving value judgments like this as if you have any knowledge whatsoever? You manage to get every take incorrect. Quite astonishing really. You live up to your name.

 

[jester]

Why do I always see you giving value judgments like this as if you have any knowledge whatsoever? You manage to get every take incorrect. Quite astonishing really. You live up to your name.

good luck living without fats as a natty, retard
jfl

 

[Finnishmogger]

I fear sugar cause of fructose tbh

Copping ts.
Ricecakes fr fr, thanks buddy

Ricecakes with honey and banana slices on top is probably the best pre workout meal.

 

[ybuyhgui]

good luck living without fats as a natty, retard
jfl

I’m not natty. Either way carbs are superior for gym. Obviously. The tiny increase in test from adequate fat will be blown out of the water by the optimization of MUR via carbs’ effect on the CNS. Not even close.

 

[jester]

I’m not natty. Either way carbs are superior for gym. Obviously. The tiny increase in test from adequate fat will be blown out of the water by the optimization of MUR via carbs’ effect on the CNS. Not even close.

i was talking as a natty. for gym sure they are but for a healthy lifestyle with no brain fog and lethargy fats>carbs

 

[ybuyhgui]

i was talking as a natty. for gym sure they are but for a healthy lifestyle with no brain fog and lethargy fats>carbs

Topic of the thread is training. Carbs should be prioritized over fats as a natty anyway, but i’m not going to get into that debate, because, respectfully, everything i’ve seen from you on the forum has been utterly retarded so i’m certain it’ll be a waste of my time

 

[jester]

Topic of the thread is training. Carbs should be prioritized over fats as a natty anyway, but i’m not going to get into that debate, because, respectfully, everything i’ve seen from you on the forum has been utterly retarded so i’m certain it’ll be a waste of my time

how? test=hypertrophy
adequate cholesterol intake supports lh
high insulin from a high carb diet can suppress shbg and dysregulate androgen balance
relatively high cholesterol=high test
high test=inhibites gdf-8, reduces smad2/3 signaling, blocking myostatin pathways
test also improves mps and mpb. carbs can be synthesized into tryglicerides which can be used to make endogenous androgens but for that to happen you would have to be in a caloric surplus, it would still be detrimental in the long run for a natty and it would take longer
if you just had a normal cholesterol and zinc intake you could make test right away while also staying at maintenance or cutting
high carb is bs unless you’re roiding or bulking
high natural test is also optimal for lypolisis and low/moderate carbs=ketosis which wouldn’t be possible in a high carbohydrate diet

 

[Finnishmogger]

how? test=hypertrophy
adequate cholesterol intake supports lh
high insulin from a high carb diet can suppress shbg and dysregulate androgen balance
relatively high cholesterol=high test
high test=inhibites gdf-8, reduces smad2/3 signaling, blocking myostatin pathways
test also improves mps and mpb. carbs can be synthesized into tryglicerides which can be used to make endogenous androgens but for that to happen you would have to be in a caloric surplus, it would still be detrimental in the long run for a natty and it would take longer
if you just had a normal cholesterol and zinc intake you could make test right away while also staying at maintenance or cutting
high carb is bs unless you’re roiding
high natural test is also optimal for lypolisis and low/moderate carbs=ketosis which wouldn’t be possible in a high carbohydrate diet

You’re retarded

 

[jester]

You’re retarded

i love it when niggas say you’re retarded but don’t say why and/or don’t argue my point

 

[piec]

only in moderation

dnr

500g+ carbs a day or kys

 

[Finnishmogger]

i love it when niggas say you’re retarded but don’t say why and/or don’t argue my point

You’re too much of a retard to even argue with. You should go ahead and read some studies instead.

 

[jester]

dnr

500g+ carbs a day or kys

adenosine and melatonin machine

 

[jester]

You’re too much of a retard to even argue with. You should go ahead and read some studies instead.

jfl
nice one

 

[ybuyhgui]

You’re too much of a retard to even argue with

Yup, tried warning you JFL

 

[jester]

Yup, tried warning you JFL

none of you argued my point btw

 

[jester]

You’re too much of a retard to even argue with. You should go ahead and read some studies instead.

also which studies should i go check out mr. genius?

 

[Finnishmogger]

also which studies should i go check out mr. genius?

Here you go:

Dietary cholesterol and testosterone (NHANES cross-sectional study): https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10552423/


• Testosterone administration increases myostatin (GDF-8) levels: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8974345/


• Meta-analysis on low-fat (high-carb) diets and testosterone: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33741447/


• Meta-analysis on very high-protein low-carb diets decreasing testosterone: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35254136/


• RCT showing high-carb/low-fat superior for strength and muscle gains in trained men: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38428587/


• Systematic review on carbohydrates and resistance training performance/hypertrophy: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8878406/

 

[ybuyhgui]

Here you go:

Dietary cholesterol and testosterone (NHANES cross-sectional study): https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10552423/


• Testosterone administration increases myostatin (GDF-8) levels: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8974345/


• Meta-analysis on low-fat (high-carb) diets and testosterone: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33741447/


• Meta-analysis on very high-protein low-carb diets decreasing testosterone: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35254136/


• RCT showing high-carb/low-fat superior for strength and muscle gains in trained men: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38428587/


• Systematic review on carbohydrates and resistance training performance/hypertrophy: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8878406/

You’re a better man than me for bothering to engage with this deranged retard, I already gave him enough information to do the research himself (not that he’s intellectually capable of such a feat)

The tiny increase in test from adequate fat will be blown out of the water by the optimization of MUR via carbs’ effect on the CNS. Not even close.

 

[Finnishmogger]

You’re a better man than me for bothering to engage with this deranged retard, I already gave him enough information to do the research himself (not that he’s intellectually capable of such a feat)

Maybe he won’t argue about these stupid things any more.

 

[jester]

Here you go:

Dietary cholesterol and testosterone (NHANES cross-sectional study): https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10552423/


• Testosterone administration increases myostatin (GDF-8) levels: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8974345/


• Meta-analysis on low-fat (high-carb) diets and testosterone: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33741447/


• Meta-analysis on very high-protein low-carb diets decreasing testosterone: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35254136/


• RCT showing high-carb/low-fat superior for strength and muscle gains in trained men: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38428587/


• Systematic review on carbohydrates and resistance training performance/hypertrophy: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8878406/

about the gdf-8 study
that’s with exogenous test brother
ima go read the others rq

 

[Finnishmogger]

about the gdf-8 study
that’s with exogenous test brother
ima go read the others rq

I didn’t actually read the studies myself, I asked AI to give me them.

 

[gario]

i eat mostly healthy carbs.

 

[jester]

Here you go:

Dietary cholesterol and testosterone (NHANES cross-sectional study): https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10552423/


• Testosterone administration increases myostatin (GDF-8) levels: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8974345/


• Meta-analysis on low-fat (high-carb) diets and testosterone: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33741447/


• Meta-analysis on very high-protein low-carb diets decreasing testosterone: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35254136/


• RCT showing high-carb/low-fat superior for strength and muscle gains in trained men: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38428587/


• Systematic review on carbohydrates and resistance training performance/hypertrophy: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8878406/

about the dietary cholesterol one, it says they only upped isolated cholesterol (which isn’t enough to make test on its own)
“the limited evidence as to whether cholesterol intake has an effect on tt levels has been demonstrated by a few randomized clinical trials. these studies showed that the increment of egg intake or ketogenic diet intervention, which are nutritional approaches that raise cholesterol intake, increased tt levels in trained (resistance training) young men“
“however, although randomized clinical trials have an important scientific evidence level, it is not yet possible to conclude whether these increases in tt levels occurred due to an isolated effect of cholesterol intake or because other nutrients that can also have effects on tt levels were also more ingested, such as fats.”

 

[jester]

I didn’t actually read the studies myself, I asked AI to give me them.

wow bro, cagefuel

 

[try2beme]

Finally someone with a brain.

 

[jester]

@ybuyhgui send studies

 

[Finnishmogger]

about the dietary cholesterol one, it says they only upped isolated cholesterol (which isn’t enough to make test on its own)
“the limited evidence as to whether cholesterol intake has an effect on tt levels has been demonstrated by a few randomized clinical trials. these studies showed that the increment of egg intake or ketogenic diet intervention, which are nutritional approaches that raise cholesterol intake, increased tt levels in trained (resistance training) young men“
“however, although randomized clinical trials have an important scientific evidence level, it is not yet possible to conclude whether these increases in tt levels occurred due to an isolated effect of cholesterol intake or because other nutrients that can also have effects on tt levels were also more ingested, such as fats.”

dnrd

 

[5.5psl]

Getting crazy pumps, no bloat like I thought id be having and good energy

Carbs carbs carbs.

only good when bulking , when you are cutting low carb as preworkout only for glycogen when maintaining yeh both protein and carbs moderate -high

 

[ybuyhgui]

@ybuyhgui send studies

I’m not spoon feeding you general knowledge. I thought i’d made that clear by now.