Carotenoids and Coloring: What They Are, Why They Matter, and Their Risks (ETHNICS DGTFIH)

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What is a Carotenoid?

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A carotenoid is a naturally occurring pigment found in plants, photosynthetic organisms, and certain animals. For example, the now iconic Astaxanthin is a form of carotenoid that is commonly found in algae like Haematococcus Pluvialis (no you don't need to remember that nigga JFL).

We'll specifically focus on the coloring aspect of them, skimming past their other benefits (antioxidant, cardiovascular, etc.).

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Salmon attain their pink pigment from Astaxanthin, they are a major consumer of the Haematococcus Pluvialis algae. Fish are subhuman :feelskek:. BBL nose, bad ESR, and a sunken midface, where the fuck is this niggas jaw?

The Science Behind Carotenoid Coloring
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From Ming to Ling. The vast majority would agree the subject on the left has Wuhan virus, while the right still has it.

Since the paper that discussed carotenoid and attractiveness attached the image above, we'll be using another study's image.
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Now that we have a proper representation of a human, we can start discussing some aspects of this image:

While subtle, the vast majority would agree the right composite is most attractive. If you don't, then you'd probably mount kung pao orange chicken (image 1).

As per the publication:
Participants consisted of 43 heterosexual Caucasian men with a mean age of 21 years. 23 men were assigned to the treatment group and the other 20 to the placebo group...
Sixty-six heterosexual Caucasian female raters with a mean age of 33 were recruited online to assess attractiveness of the pre- and post-supplementation faces of each male participant presented side by side on a computer screen.
Its findings:
Results indicated that, as predicted, beta-carotene supplementation increased overall yellowness and redness of the skin. Compared to the placebo group, post-supplementation faces in the beta-carotene group were more likely to be chosen as more attractive as well as healthier looking over the pre-supplementation faces. Therefore, beta-carotene significantly enhanced participants’ attractiveness and appearance of health.
Previous research has found that in various species—of birds, fish, and reptiles—females are more attracted to their colorful male counterpart.
A possible reason for these findings is the skin looks more saturated and less dull along with the fact its an indicator of good cardiovascular health overall (youth and fertility).



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This Reddit user improved his skin tone in 5 months with Astaxanthin, the left is their starting skin tone.
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Another Reddit user (6 weeks) though his stack has three carotenoids and he's mega dosing with a combination of 24mg liposomal Astaxanthin, 60mg Lycopene, 20mg Lutein.
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No supplementation, ate carrots on a daily basis though timeline is unknown. Unrelated but jew nose descends her, probably pig Lithuanian.
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Eating carrots daily for 30 days.

Why Carotenoid Coloring Is Preferable to Melanin Coloring (Tanning) and Why Coloration is Preferable in General
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Bottom right image depicts melanin tan without carotenoids

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From the abstract we can identify some important aspects:
Skin colouration appears to play a pivotal part in facial attractiveness.
Skin yellowness contributes to an attractive appearance and is influenced both by dietary carotenoids and by melanin.
...both increased carotenoid colouration and increased melanin colouration enhance apparent health in Caucasian faces by increasing skin yellowness...
We show, firstly, that both increased carotenoid colouration and increased melanin colouration are found attractive compared to lower levels of these pigments. Secondly, we show that carotenoid colouration is consistently preferred over melanin colouration when levels of colouration are matched.
Secondly, we show that carotenoid colouration is consistently preferred over melanin colouration when levels of colouration are matched.
On average men are darker than women, interestingly the study mentioned this distinction. Though, my gookmaxxed uni restricted access to the paper, so further elaboration on it will not be shown. Regardless we can infer some takeaways from the Abstract about it:
These results are interpreted as reflecting preferences for sex-typical skin colouration: men have darker skin than women and high melanization in male faces may further enhance this masculine trait, thus carotenoid colouration is not less desirable, but melanin colouration is relatively more desirable in males compared to females.
1. As a male being dull, pale, and grey is a huge failo. The cow revering homosexuals on this forum will sit on here and argue about bones all day and not once account for soft tissue attractiveness. Here is Ramses:
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Versus a shitty morph depicting what he would look like if he continued palemaxxing with carotenoids added on:
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The result is significant. I do want to add this morph is exaggerated and may only be somewhat achievable with carotenoids and an erythropoietin stimulator.

2. A blend of both a very slight melanin tan and carotenoid coloring OR only carotenoid coloration is preferable (as the abstract concluded carotenoid coloring is superior overall for DontGoOutsidecels).

Risks
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Let's start with the biggest risk:
Lung Cancer.
This is a only an association, the exact cause is unknown. As per a meta-analysis:
A total of 18 eligible studies based on 8 different randomized controlled trials were included in the meta-analysis, with varying sample sizes from 391 to 39 876 participants. There was no significant association between supplemental β-carotene intake and overall cancer incidence rate after synthesizing all the results (risk ratio [RR]: 1.02; 95% confidence interval [CI], 0.99-1.05). Results from subgroup analysis indicated that intake of supplemental β-carotene significantly increased the risk of lung cancer (RR: 1.19; 95%CI: 1.08-1.32), whereas no significant associations were observed for other site-specific cancers. In addition, smokers and the subgroup of participants with only low-dose β-carotene intake had a risk increment of cancer if they took supplemental β-carotene (RR: 1.16; 95%CI: 1.05-1.29).
In short, beta-carotene supplements was linked to about a 19% higher risk of lung cancer overall. Within smokers, the risk increases by 16% relatively, which translates to a a larger increase since smokers are already at a higher risk even at low doses of beta-carotene. This is only for supplementation of beta-carotene, so if you're a carrot nigga u good.

Whether you care or not, you can always opt for Lycopene, Lutein, or Astaxanthin which do not carry this association.

Dosing Risks:
Do not mega-dose these Carotenoids as they are all antioxidants. Similarly to vitamin C mega dosing, the mechanism starts to become pro-oxidative at high concentrations (damaging to cells).


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What is a Carotenoid?

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A carotenoid is a naturally occurring pigment found in plants, photosynthetic organisms, and certain animals. For example, the now iconic Astaxanthin is a form of carotenoid that is commonly found in algae like Haematococcus Pluvialis (no you don't need to remember that nigga JFL).

We'll specifically focus on the coloring aspect of them, skimming past their other benefits (antioxidant, cardiovascular, etc.).

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Salmon attain their pink pigment from Astaxanthin, they are a major consumer of the Haematococcus Pluvialis algae. Fish are subhuman :feelskek:. BBL nose, bad ESR, and a sunken midface, where the fuck is this niggas jaw?

The Science Behind Carotenoid Coloring
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From Ming to Ling. The vast majority would agree the subject on the left has Wuhan virus, while the right still has it.

Since the paper that discussed carotenoid and attractiveness attached the image above, we'll be using another study discussing carotenoids effects on attractiveness and it's image.
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Now that we have a proper representation of a human, we can start discussing some aspects of this image:

While subtle, the vast majority would agree the top right composite is most attractive. If you don't, then you'd probably mount kung pao orange chicken (image 1).

As per the publication:

Its findings:



A possible reason for these findings is the skin looks more saturated and less dull along with the fact its an indicator of good cardiovascular health overall (youth and fertility).



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Why Carotenoid Coloring Is Preferable to Melanin Coloring (Tanning) and Why Coloration is Preferable in General
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From the abstract we can identify some important aspects:





On average men are darker than women, interestingly the study mentioned this distinction. Though, my gookmaxxed uni restricted access to the paper, so further elaboration on it will not be shown. Regardless we can infer some takeaways from the Abstract about it:

1. As a male if you are dull, pale, and grey (like the gays who will comment water), it is a huge failo. The cow revering homosexuals on this forum will sit on here and argue about bones all day and not once account for soft tissue attractiveness. Here is Ramses:
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Versus a shitty morph depicting what he would look like if he continued palemaxxing with carotenoids added on:
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The result is significant. I do want to add this morph is exaggerated and may only be somewhat achievable with carotenoids and an erythropoietin stimulator.

2. A blend of both a very slight melanin tan and carotenoid coloring OR only carotenoid coloration is preferable (as the abstract concluded carotenoid coloring is superior overall for DontGoOutsidecels).

Risks

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Let's start with the biggest risk:
Lung Cancer.
This is a only an association, the exact cause is unknown. As per a meta-analysis:

These research niggas always over complicating shit :forcedsmile:. In short, beta-carotene supplements were linked to about a 19% higher risk of lung cancer overall. Within smokers, the risk increases by 16% relatively, which translates to a a larger increase since smokers are already at a higher risk even at low doses of beta-carotene. This is only for supplementation of beta-carotene, so if you're a carrot nigga u good.

Whether you care or not, you can always opt for Lycopene, Lutein, or Astaxanthin which do not carry this association.

Dosing Risks:
Do not mega-dose these Carotenoids as they are all antioxidants. Similarly to vitamin C mega dosing, the mechanism starts to become pro-oxidative at high concentrations (damaging to cells).


I only made this thread to call fish subhuman.

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Stupid guide tbh, suntanning is infinitely better than carotenoids, the pigment on your skin starts to look yellow/orange when a naturally red/cool undertone looks healthy and better
 
Stupid guide tbh, suntanning is infinitely better than carotenoids, the pigment on your skin starts to look yellow/orange when a naturally red/cool undertone looks healthy and better
Point is carotenoid coloring looks better than baseline, and it looks better than a melanin tan. I get your point though, all these colorings irrespective of which is most attractive, look best with red overtones or undertones. I forgot to attach the study but both genders are very attracted to a ruddy/flushed skin look. Nothing can consistently give that look besides genetic rosacea, or hypoxia, or an erythropoietin stimulator.
 
do u rec beta carotene diet with supps ? also have u done any beta maxing u care to share?
 
do u rec beta carotene diet with supps ? also have u done any beta maxing u care to share?
I tan easily (olive skin), so I try and avoid sunlight, and reapply sunscreen consistently even on campus. I became slightly pale (in a unhealthy way, but what i wanted), and have been taking the golden trio (lyco,asta, and lutein). I can see more red overtones on my face, while also being yellower/more olive without the dirty look of a tan (relative to my pheno, also see here):

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I definitely look better skin-wise. I'm only at the 2-month mark. At most, i'll post my hand or something which has gotten pinker on the palm and the outer hand more slightly yellow.

No I dont recommend you do that, you'd probably be too yellow. I dont know if I mentioned in the post, but it accumulates in the skin. The more and longer you take it, the more it accumulates. You may reach that point just with low dose supplements alone, just given a long enough time frame. I'll probably discontinue in the future if that happens but not anytime soon. I'd still like to try out a red blood cell stimulator for more significant red/pink overtones, although dangerous long term, should be the cherry on top.
 
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I tan easily (olive skin), so I try and avoid sunlight, and reapply sunscreen consistently even on campus. I became slightly pale (in a unhealthy way, but what i wanted), and have been taking the golden trio (lyco,asta, and lutein). I can see more red overtones on my face, while also being yellower/more olive without the dirty look of a tan (relative to my pheno, also see here):

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I definitely look better skin-wise. I'm only at the 2-month mark. At most, i'll post my hand or something which has gotten pinker on the palm and the outer hand more slightly yellow.

No I dont recommend you do that, you'd probably be too yellow. I dont know if I mentioned in the post, but it accumulates in the skin. The more and longer you take it, the more it accumulates. You may reach that point just with low dose supplements alone, just given a long enough time frame. I'll probably discontinue in the future if that happens but not anytime soon. I'd still like to try out a red blood cell stimulator for more significant red/pink overtones, although dangerous long term, should be the cherry on top.
What RBC stimulators are u planning on taking? I would assume there's a direct correlation between increasing RBC and reddish undertones right?
 
What RBC stimulators are u planning on taking? I would assume there's a direct correlation between increasing RBC and reddish undertones right?
Overtones yes, undertones can't be changed. I will use AAS as that seems to be the safest to my knowledge (gradual and indirect) though a slew of sides. Which one? Unsure, probably testosterone, or enclo even if not an AAS.
 
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how muchh should we take
 
Overtones yes, undertones can't be changed. I will use AAS as that seems to be the safest to my knowledge (gradual and indirect) though a slew of sides. Which one? Unsure, probably testosterone, or enclo even if not an AAS.
Have u seen some of @Deleted member 23558 's old posts? He seemed to have some interesting theories on skin hue modification to get more of a cooler/red look.
 
Have u seen some of @Deleted member 23558 's old posts? He seemed to have some interesting theories on skin hue modification to get more of a cooler/red look.
Is this BrahminBoss?
 
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