CCW rotation with braces

[iblamemonkeygod]

Is CCW rotation possible by pressing the marked spot with a ton of force for multiple sets of 5 min?

Saw someone claiming, pressing on the X while having good posture, perferably lying down or at a table where you can have support for your arms when you press against the maxilla in a up and forward motion, causing CCW rotation and forward growth, and idk if i'm in the wrong, or if it was a retarded post on Tiktok but i don't see how it will have any positive impact other than messing my bite up?
I currently have braces, with no plans of extractions, and are looking to gain some forward growth. The only real answer i´ve found is genetics or surgery, but then i saw this claim but it doesn't make any sense. Since don't you need constant force to make any noteable change in the cranial structure?

 

[Genio]

Is CCW rotation possible by pressing the marked spot with a ton of force for multiple sets of 5 min?

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Saw someone claiming, pressing on the X while having good posture, perferably lying down or at a table where you can have support for your arms when you press against the maxilla in a up and forward motion, causing CCW rotation and forward growth, and idk if i'm in the wrong, or if it was a retarded post on Tiktok but i don't see how it will have any positive impact other than messing my bite up?
I currently have braces, with no plans of extractions, and are looking to gain some forward growth. The only real answer i´ve found is genetics or surgery, but then i saw this claim but it doesn't make any sense. Since don't you need constant force to make any noteable change in the cranial structure?

I tried this, I wouldn't recommend it.

Just fucked up my teeth in the mean time, I was entering an Overjet case instead of an Overbite case.
The reason mewing doesn't do this is because the force is spread across the entire Palette.

 

[iblamemonkeygod]

I tried this, I wouldn't recommend it.

Just fucked up my teeth in the mean time, I was entering an Overjet case instead of an Overbite case.
The reason mewing doesn't do this is because the force is spread across the entire Palette.

Do you know any orthodontic procedures for forward growth? Or is it just straight surgery only

 

[Genio]

Do you know any orthodontic procedures for forward growth? Or is it just straight surgery only

BAMP, If the Mid-palatal Suture is separated then Facemask can help aswell.

BAMP is more secure, anchored and can aid in forward growth in the secondary segment of the Maxillary region with some modification's, but Good luck finding any local Ortho who know's how to preform BAMP, and if you do find an Ortho who can do BAMP, Insurance won't cover it (in most cases)

 

[iblamemonkeygod]

My maxilla isn’t concretly recessed just flat, woulf BAMP help in that scenario?

Wouldn’t i need to seek out a method of CCW rotation to correct my flat maxilla? Like bite blockers?

 

[Yamb]

BAMP, If the Mid-palatal Suture is separated then Facemask can help aswell.

BAMP is more secure, anchored and can aid in forward growth in the secondary segment of the Maxillary region with some modification's, but Good luck finding any local Ortho who know's how to preform BAMP, and if you do find an Ortho who can do BAMP, Insurance won't cover it (in most cases)

nahh wouldn't that pull the lower jaw back?

 

[Yamb]

Do you know any orthodontic procedures for forward growth? Or is it just straight surgery only

forwardontics bow + marpe

 

[Genio]

nahh wouldn't that pull the lower jaw back?

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Nigga are you good? You can't indicate direction of force based on looking at the appliance, there are legit 4-5mm protraction's in BAMP studies. the Elastic is legit pressurized by the mandible to bring the Maxilla forward.

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It's legit in the name m8
Boneanchored MAXILLARY PROTRACTION

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[Yamb]

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Nigga are you good? You can't indicate direction of force based on looking at the appliance, there are legit 4-5mm protraction's in BAMP studies. the Elastic is legit pressurized by the mandible to bring the Maxilla forward.

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It's legit in the name m8
Boneanchored MAXILLARY PROTRACTION

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boiii u so mad lmaooo rep if u agree

 

[iblamemonkeygod]

forwardontics bow + marpe

forwardontics bow aint too bad tbh, marpe wouldn't be a good choice i think since my maxilla is adequate width.

Then you can pull lower jaw forward and maxilla with ancors, and bite blockers for ccw rotation

could be a mog move tbf