Ccw rotation

[carti lover]

almost all my hope is lost


Is ccw rotation really impossible even at 14? Would hardmewing for years not even do anything please somebody help me out with any methods

 

[mellozz246]

almost all my hope is lost


Is ccw rotation really impossible even at 14? Would hardmewing for years not even do anything please somebody help me out with any methods

nuh its possible at 14 since u in puberty and u young baby boy, mew mew mew and chew a lot focus chewing w premolars and stuff and idk just pressurise the maxilla as much as possible

 

[ICL]

It'll be marginal most likely but go ahead, it's not gonna harm you

In the future you must get impacted lefort and/or ccw surgery.

 

[carti lover]

It'll be marginal most likely but go ahead, it's not gonna harm you

In the future you must get impacted lefort and/or ccw surgery.

my side profile is beyond fucked from the front I don’t look bad it’s just my absolutely horrid flat nose and chin which ruins it what should I do for ccw?

 

[carti lover]

nuh its possible at 14 since u in puberty and u young baby boy, mew mew mew and chew a lot focus chewing w premolars and stuff and idk just pressurise the maxilla as much as possible

would a hour of haed chewing a day on the premilars help!

 

[ICL]

It'll be marginal most likely but go ahead, it's not gonna harm you

In the future you must get impacted lefort and/or ccw surgery.

 

[carti lover]

It'll be marginal most likely but go ahead, it's not gonna harm you

In the future you must get impacted lefort and/or ccw surgery.

What should I do to get ccw?

 

[ICL]

my side profile is beyond fucked from the front I don’t look bad it’s just my absolutely horrid flat nose and chin which ruins it what should I do for ccw?

Are you asian perchance or have prognathism or mouth protrusion?

Send a pic if you can, or at least send me your midface ratio

 

[ICL]

What should I do to get ccw?

Whatever this guy said, it's pretty reliable, there's some anecdotal evidence for it. But also orthodontics

nuh its possible at 14 since u in puberty and u young baby boy, mew mew mew and chew a lot focus chewing w premolars and stuff and idk just pressurise the maxilla as much as possible

Such as bite blocks, helping ccw

also do you have a gummy smile or most of your upper teeth are seen only?

 

[carti lover]

Are you asian perchance or have prognathism or mouth protrusion?

Send a pic if you can, or at least send me your midface ratio

My interpupilarry is 7.5cms and my pupil to bottom of the top lip/the area in between ur lips is 8cm going straight down so my midface ratio is something like 1:1.06

 

[carti lover]

Whatever this guy said, it's pretty reliable, there's some anecdotal evidence for it. But also orthodontics

Such as bite blocks, helping ccw

also do you have a gummy smile or most of your upper teeth are seen only?

I have a deep bite 75% no gummy smile orthodontist wouldn’t give me tads and they made me get a fucking psychological evaluation because they said I have facial dismorphoa my philtrums 17.5mm and it’s on a angle kind of so if I were to get braces it would flatten the angle making it close to appearing like 19mm id presume which would destroy my front profile even more

 

[carti lover]

Are you asian perchance or have prognathism or mouth protrusion?

Send a pic if you can, or at least send me your midface ratio

my lips stick out from the side view so id assume so yeah

 

[ICL]

ye

I have a deep bite 75% no gummy smile orthodontist wouldn’t give me tads and they made me get a fucking psychological evaluation because they said I have facial dismorphoa my philtrums 17.5mm and it’s on a angle kind of so if I were to get braces it would flatten the angle making it close to appearing like 19mm id presume which would destroy my front profile even more

yep you're a ccw surgery patient


Fuck your doctors also you may get a lip lift if you have paper thin lips

My interpupilarry is 7.5cms and my pupil to bottom of the top lip/the area in between ur lips is 8cm going straight down so my midface ratio is something like 1:1.06

Then how do you have downward growth, thats almost minimal.

Mouth over gonion measurement? (how many mm is your gonion lower than your mouth from the side profile, just measure black line)

 

[carti lover]

My interpupilarry is 7.5cms and my pupil to bottom of the top lip/the area in between ur lips is 8cm going straight down so my midface ratio is something like 1:1.06

ye

yep you're a ccw surgery patient


Fuck your doctors also you may get a lip lift if you have paper thin lips

Then how do you have downward growth, thats almost minimal.

Mouth over gonion measurement? (how many mm is your gonion lower than your mouth from the side profile, just measure black line)
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I can’t measure right now but my tragus to orbit was around 10cms if I remember right id assume this would be 9.25-10.25 though

 

[ICL]

my lips stick out from the side view so id assume so yeah

I think you got prognathism, you would kinda need a bundle of surgeries to fix that.

Example would be augumentation rhinoplasty for a bigger nose, as the only reason they stick out is because it rapes lip assesments

And chin filler/genio as well

(lips must be 2-4mm behind the red line,)

 

[carti lover]

ye

yep you're a ccw surgery patient


Fuck your doctors also you may get a lip lift if you have paper thin lips

Then how do you have downward growth, thats almost minimal.

Mouth over gonion measurement? (how many mm is your gonion lower than your mouth from the side profile, just measure black line)
View attachment 5191446

My lips aren’t thin but I would still get a lip lift to fix my philtrum in a very interesting case my downward growth was caused by my tongue tie not getting cut correctly and my jaw grew downwards and I have a long ramus still

 

[carti lover]

I think you got prognathism, you would kinda need a bundle of surgeries to fix that.

Example would be augumentation rhinoplasty for a bigger nose, as the only reason they stick out is because it rapes lip assesments

And chin filler/genio as well

View attachment 5191450

(lips must be 2-4mm behind the red line,)

my lips are Probally 2-5mm ABOVE that line

 

[ICL]

I can’t measure right now but my tragus to orbit was around 10cms if I remember right id assume this would be 9.25-10.25 though

what about your anterior side profile

this section that is almost perpendicular to the ground

Both lines must be ideally 1:1 or 1:1.2 this guy has like 1:1.05, most people have lower but how much is yours?

 

[carti lover]

I think you got prognathism, you would kinda need a bundle of surgeries to fix that.

Example would be augumentation rhinoplasty for a bigger nose, as the only reason they stick out is because it rapes lip assesments

And chin filler/genio as well

View attachment 5191450

(lips must be 2-4mm behind the red line,)

Seeing this guys side profile is just pure ropefuel for me I bet he has a insane front to

 

[ICL]

my lips are Probally 2-5mm ABOVE that line

damn, would you mind sending a picture in DMs? they are private as well

 

[carti lover]

what about your anterior side profile

this section that is almost perpendicular to the ground
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Both lines must be ideally 1:1 or 1:1.2 this guy has like 1:1.05, most people have lower but how much is yours?

the line from gonion to lip is like 10cm and the line from chin to radix is like 11.25cm

 

[carti lover]

I

damn, would you mind sending a picture in DMs? they are private as well

dmd you

 

[ICL]

the line from gonion to lip is like 10cm and the line from chin to radix is like 11.25cm

that shouldnt be as bad, lemme see you in dms 1 sec

 

[carti lover]

that shouldnt be as bad, lemme see you in dms 1 sec

Wdym as in it shouldn’t be that bad? Like it’s very bad

 

[ICL]

Wdym as in it shouldn’t be that bad? Like it’s very bad

your ratio is like 0.9, and ideal is 1.0 or 1.2, it wouldnt make sense you look that bad

 

[carti lover]

your ratio is like 0.9, and ideal is 1.0 or 1.2, it wouldnt make sense you look that bad

I haven’t seen anyone with bone development like mine on here I have a long ramus and high gonial angle and a somewhat long maxilla-mabye it’s just my philtrum? reply in DMs to this same msg please