Chad father and Stacy mother produce MTN

Also, you have to be born extremely gl to look like pic related. No amount of mewing would provide such an amazing bonemass

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mewing is not meant to provide bonemass. mewing is not made to make you good looking either. Mewing is simply how youre meant to be breathing lol. It is meant to grow your skull in an optimal way from a craniofacial perspective. Did the aboriginals look good when weston price documented them for their "wide palates"? No. But they did grow optimally, which is whats important.

Niggas like barrett - literal aborigine tier bonemass, would look like an utter ape if he wasnt blessed with his coloring, Lmao.

Good development of skull does not mean good looks.
 
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You know i dont even hate you my nigga, I actually think youre a good rater on this site, deflating the egos of subhumans on here. However, I don't know why you deny the environment pill. Sure, a north atlantid no matter how shit his bones are will always be above average, solely due to pheno. But from a craniofacial perspective, would he be optimally developed if he grew up in a shithole with dogshit hormones in puberty? Absolutely not. The only reason ramirez and niggas like ballou are worshipped on this site is because they got lucky having a good hormonal profile during their upbringing. Their phenos are utter shit, but their bones save them.
their phenos aren’t shit you’re just cumskin worshipping
 
why you doxxing yourself tiktokcel
He mogs me.
The only reason ramirez and niggas like ballou are worshipped on this site is because they got lucky having a good hormonal profile during their upbringing. Their phenos are utter shit, but their bones save them.

Ramirez is the shittiest example. He was beaten, malnourished during his child-hood. He was also a drug addict. Besides, his phenotype is one the reasons for his prominent cheekbones (amerindian pheno).
 
mewing is not meant to provide bonemass. mewing is not made to make you good looking either. Mewing is simply how youre meant to be breathing lol. It is meant to grow your skull in an optimal way from a craniofacial perspective. Did the aboriginals look good when weston price documented them for their "wide palates"? No. But they did grow optimally, which is whats important.

Niggas like barrett - literal aborigine tier bonemass, would look like an utter ape if he wasnt blessed with his coloring, Lmao.

Good development of skull does not mean good looks.
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dark coloring wipes the floor imo
 
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dark coloring wipes the floor imo
Do you see how much resemblance he has to an aborigine simply by dying his hairs black? Not even changing his skin, lip, or eye color lmfao.

And no, that is not "dark coloring". Dark coloring is as the name suggests.. Dark coloring. He is still white.
 

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He mogs me.


Ramirez is the shittiest example. He was beaten, malnourished during his child-hood. He was also a drug addict. Besides, his phenotype is one the reasons for his prominent cheekbones (amerindian pheno).
This debate will be neverending. Neither me nor you know what truly caused ramirez to develop how he did. But one thing I can guarantee, his environment did indirectly affect his looks. The only reason you could see his hollows so well is because he was an emaciated drug addict, Why his face looked so low trust can also be attributed to his hormonal profile and psychopathic behavior. But I do agree with you, his phenotype is one of the causes of how developed his cheekbones were.
 
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Do you see how much resemblance he has to an aborigine simply by dying his hairs black? Not even changing his skin, lip, or eye color lmfao.

And no, that is not "dark coloring". Dark coloring is as the name suggests.. Dark coloring. He is still white.
ok non white ethnic groups aren’t bad tho aslong u don't have mumbai pheno
 
look at the eyebrows, look at the lips, look at the bones (no bones)
its all from her mother, her mother cucked him

.org you can better marry girls with bones and normal eyebrows

because of her mother he is a ugly incel
 
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This debate will be neverending. Neither me nor you know what truly caused ramirez to develop how he did. But one thing I can guarantee, his environment did indirectly affect his looks. The only reason you could see his hollows so well is because he was an emaciated drug addict, Why his face looked so low trust can also be attributed to his hormonal profile and psychopathic behavior. But I do agree with you, his phenotype is one of the causes of how developed his cheekbones were.
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richard ramirez as a kid jfl at these copers
 
because environment matters, lol. there is no genome for your chin height or gonial angle, your environment and habits determine how you will look, your genetics determine your phenotype/max potential.
No nigga
look at the eyebrows, look at the lips

the eyebrows and lips are not environomental , simple genetics , LOOK AT THE SUBHUMAN EYEBROWS AND LIPS = ALL FK NOT ENVIRONOMENTAL SIMPLE GENETICS

the boneseles cuck and bad jaw maybe be environomental but even if he got good bones and jaw, HE IS STILL A FK INCELL BECAUSE OF HIS EYEBROWS AND LIPS
 
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ok non white ethnic groups aren’t bad tho aslong u don't have mumbai pheno
Caucasoid skulls are more angular and "aesthetically pleasing". Mongoloid, Negroid, Aborigine and pleny other skulls have a lot more bonemass in certain areas. Barrett almost certainly doesnt have a pure cacausoid "muh white" skull. I am not saying non white ethnic groups are bad. It is just that they tend to be less aesthetically pleasing. If you remove barretts white features/coloring, try to imagine what he would look like.

Aesthetics is all about pheno/harmony/coloring.
Bonemass/craniofacial development is about nutrition, hormonal profiles, and development.
 
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He looks still young, still has baby fat around lips, there seem to be good bones under that; and is looksminned as fuck, he has to lose the glasses, get better haircut and stop dressing like a 12yo on soccer practice and he'll be fine
I agree he's below his parents level but nonetheless he's doing himself huge disservice by having style of random egyptian hamza the computer nerd
NO LOOK AT THE EYEBROWS AND LIPS, YOU CANNOT CHANGE IT, HE IS A SUBBUMAN BCS HE GOT HIS MOTHE4 FUETURESN
 
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This debate will be neverending. Neither me nor you know what truly caused ramirez to develop how he did. But one thing I can guarantee, his environment did indirectly affect his looks. The only reason you could see his hollows so well is because he was an emaciated drug addict, Why his face looked so low trust can also be attributed to his hormonal profile and psychopathic behavior. But I do agree with you, his phenotype is one of the causes of how developed his cheekbones were.
Just do drugs for hollows, bro! Zygoless cuck such as myself will never have hollow cheeks even at 4% BF. As for T, it's predetermined as well. I had high prenatal estrogen. There was nothing that I could do besides having chosen my parents better.
Mogged78
 
No nigga
look at the eyebrows, look at the lips

the eyebrows and lips are not environomental , simple genetics , LOOK AT THE SUBHUMAN EYEBROWS AND LIPS = ALL FK NOT ENVIRONOMENTAL SIMPLE GENETICS

the boneseles cuck and bad jaw maybe be environomental but even if he got good bones and jaw, HE IS STILL A FK INCELL BECAUSE OF HIS EYEBROWS AND LIPS
Many caucasian skulls have square orbits. Not all have PCT brows and "hunter" eyes like ramirez'. Why?
 
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Mogs me as a kid. So ogre.
Caucasoid skulls are more angular and "aesthetically pleasing". Mongoloid, Negroid, Aborigine and pleny other skulls have a lot more bonemass in certain areas. Barrett almost certainly doesnt have a pure cacausoid "muh white" skull. I am not saying non white ethnic groups are bad. It is just that they tend to be less aesthetically pleasing. If you remove barretts white features/coloring, try to imagine what he would look like.

Aesthetics is all about pheno/harmony/coloring.
Bonemass/craniofacial development is about nutrition, hormonal profiles, and development.
yes im ethnic but caucasoid so what
 
Just do drugs for hollows, bro! Zygoless cuck such as myself will never have hollow cheeks even at 4% BF. As for T, it's predetermined as well. I had high prenatal estrogen. There was nothing that I could do besides having chosen my parents better.
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yea if your parents had a better lifestyle your prenatal t would be high (environment pill)
 
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Just do drugs for hollows, bro! Zygoless cuck such as myself will never have hollow cheeks even at 4% BF. As for T, it's predetermined as well. I had high prenatal estrogen. There was nothing that I could do besides having chosen my parents better.
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But thats environment? Your parents' subhuman decisions to raise you in a dogshit environment/your moms lack of care for your hormones during your prenatal period caused this.
 
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Nah hé looks good tbh
 
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yea if your parents has better lifestyle your prenatal t would be high (environment pill)
But thats environment? Your parents' subhuman decisions to raise you in a dogshit environment/your moms lack of care for your hormones during your prenatal period caused this.
My mother was a professional athlete for 24 years and father is 6'4 ogre (unless that's not my father). I still look like my mother's male version except for eyes. I have lower eyelid retraction due to being shat out faster than normal (my capillaries exploded lmao)
 
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My mother was a professional athlete for 24 years and father is 6'4 ogre (unless that's not my father). I still look like my mother's male version except for eyes. I have lower eyelid retraction due to being shat out faster than normal (my capillaries exploded lmao)
u look slightly recessed and downgrown just take the envoirment pill

she probably did heroin while she was pregnant with you
 
My mother was a professional athlete for 24 years and father is 6'4 ogre (unless that's not my father). I still look like my mother's male version except for eyes. I have lower eyelid retraction due to being shat out faster than normal (my capillaries exploded lmao)
So what does this prove? You want to cope with genetics. Ok, lets cope with that for now.
Why didn't you turn out as a 6"5 prime barrett if we attribute all of your looks/stature to your parents' genetics?
 
So what does this prove? You want to cope with genetics. Ok, lets cope with that for now.
Why didn't you turn out as a 6"5 prime barrett if we attribute all of your looks/stature to your parents' genetics?
My mother is LTB at best (3 PSL). I am her clone.
 
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You have NCT, Unideal development of upper jaw (maxilla). Ideal development = PCT. No fucking human is born with negative canthal tilt Lmao.
 
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he is a subhuman mostly because his big nigger lips (his shape and thickness is subhuman), and his woman alike subhuman eyebrows (his shape is subhuman eww)

mostly because of those two things he is a subhuman
this two things are not genetic, just simple bad gene comb luck, so stop coping in the comments

his mother is a very big subhuman, she cucked him
 
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You also have nasolabial folds at what seems to be 30+ % body fat. The fuck are you on about genetics with? is ANY human being (unless cursed with some shit like fetal alcohol syndrome) born with this shit?
 
You have NCT, Unideal development of upper jaw (maxilla). Ideal development = PCT. No fucking human is born with negative canthal tilt Lmao.
I have neutral tilt except for my right eye due to having lower eyelid retraction. Also pic related.
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I have lower eyelid retraction due to being shat out faster than normal (my capillaries exploded lmao)
You also have nasolabial folds at what seems to be 30+ % body fat. The fuck are you on about genetics with? is ANY human being (unless cursed with some shit like fetal alcohol syndrome) born with this shit?
That's not me in my avi xdddd. He mogs me.
 
he is a subhuman mostly because his big nigger lips (his shape and thickness is subhuman), and his woman alike subhuman eyebrows (his shape is subhuman eww)

mostly because of those two things he is a subhuman
this two things are not genetic, just simple bad gene comb luck, so stop coping in the comments

his mother is a very big subhuman, she cucked him
his mom looks good jfl
 
Ideal development = PCT
not necessarily true

you can have fucked up development and still end up with PCT (Michael Cera), and also have good development and end up with NCT (Glenn Howerton)
 
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I have neutral tilt except for my right eye due to having lower eyelid retraction. Also pic related.
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That's not me in my avi xdddd. He mogs me.
so big masseters = ideal craniofacial development to you? Vinnie hacker is recessed. did you even read what i said? Ideal craniofacial development does NOT mean optimal facial aesthetics. Your pheno wins at the end of the day.
 
not necessarily true

you can have fucked up development and still end up with PCT (Michael Cera), and also have good development and end up with NCT (Glenn Howerton)
"good" is a vague term. Optimal facial development is PCT.
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Here is a ray peater explaining further.
 
"good" is a vague term. Optimal facial development is PCT. View attachment 2517779

Here is a ray peater explaining further.
I have quite a lot of PCT but my development wasn't ideal since my bite is not great and my mandible is short

Your canthal tilt can be influenced by orbital shape and eyelid tightness too, it's not just about the upper maxilla
 
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You're brown, aren't you?
Quit turning this into a race argument. Your example of vinnie hacker literally proves everything I have to say. In nature, do you think some effeminate faggot like vinnie hacker with his muh "tired eyes" would survive? NCT and those droopy eyelids of his mean he would get his eyes gouged out due to non existent supra+infraorbitals. We are talking about two different points. Facial aesthetics and ideal development.
 
Quit turning this into a race argument. Your example of vinnie hacker literally proves everything I have to say. In nature, do you think some effeminate faggot like vinnie hacker with his muh "tired eyes" would survive? NCT and those droopy eyelids of his mean he would get his eyes gouged out due to non existent supra+infraorbitals. We are talking about two different points. Facial aesthetics and ideal development.
>Casually ignoring Hexum
 
because environment matters, lol. there is no genome for your chin height or gonial angle, your environment and habits determine how you will look, your genetics determine your phenotype/max potential.
Gonial angle and gonial width is 90% environnement, bruxism
 
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I have quite a lot of PCT but my development wasn't ideal since my bite is not great and my mandible is short

Your canthal tilt can be influenced by orbital shape and eyelid tightness too, it's not just about the upper maxilla
Okay? I did not say having only X feature = ideal development. PCT is part of having ideal facial development. Orbital shape is ideally squared (refer to hunter gatherers for this).
 
Okay? I did not say having only X feature = ideal development. PCT is part of having ideal facial development. Orbital shape is ideally squared (refer to hunter gatherers for this).
You implied that PCT means optimal development, which it doesn't. It's only part of it, as you corrected now. Someone with NCT can still have overall better development than someone with PCT.
 
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Seems neutral to me. Any excessive NCT/ptosis is unideal. PCT and neutral canthal tilt are ideal. His infra+supraorbitals are developed anyways.
>Casually ignoring Hexum
 
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Seems neutral to me. Any excessive NCT/ptosis is unideal. PCT and neutral canthal tilt are ideal. His infra+supraorbitals are developed anyways.
Zygos are everything. That's life.
 
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Neutral Tilt and PCT barely differ. Most of the time its a lack of a downturned medial canthus and or a non squinched expression. Droopy lids causing the Negative canthal tilt are unideal. Do you have any examples of good supraorbital+infraorbital development coupled with excess NCT?
You implied that PCT means optimal development, which it doesn't. It's only part of it, as you corrected now. Someone with NCT can still have overall better development than someone with PCT.
 
Zygos are everything. That's life.
Yes. Your zygomatic arches are dependent on the lateral + forward growth of your maxilla.

Zygos also make up 1/4th of your supras.
 
Neutral Tilt and PCT barely differ. Most of the time its a lack of a downturned medial canthus and or a non squinched expression. Droopy lids causing the Negative canthal tilt are unideal. Do you have any examples of good supraorbital+infraorbital development coupled with excess NCT?
I don't have examples of ppl with good orbital development with NCT, that wouldn't make a lot of sense now would it. There are people however, that have excess NCT, but still have overall good development. Usually because of a very good lower third.

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How old is the son?? Maybe he will ascend later, who knows.

He is not that bad looking to begin with imo
 

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