One of the happiest couples I've seen was a extremely mediocre woman who's legit with a high tier normie/chadlite. The guy mogs her by 3 or 4 points. Actually a based take
Cope threadSo by all general metrics, female SMV absolutely annihilates male SMV. It's not even close. To give an idea on how insanely mismatched male vs female SMV is, assuming you were dead average in everything and above average by some metrics, your SMV looksmatch would be an ugly, below average women with 2 kids from 2 different men.
However there are 2 sides to this story, male and female SMV are fundamentally different. Attraction from men is not at all the same as attraction from women. In fact it's so fundamentally different that a majority of women hate large scale attention from men while a majority of men love it. This is due to how differently male and female SMV work.
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To lay it out better, here's a starter statistic:
Roughly 13% of women on [Pew Research Center] dating apps cite casual sex as a major reason for usage, significantly lower than the 31% of men who report the same. While many women are open to casual encounters, only a small minority use these platforms exclusively for hookups, with studies suggesting higher percentages prefer long-term dating. (Source)
This means that viewing SMV face value is inherently wrong, because less than 15% of women are on dating apps to have sex/one night stands and more than 30% of men are on dating apps to have sex/one night stands. This means that roughly 1 in 10 women are on dating apps to have sex and 1 in 3 men are on dating apps to have sex. That is a massive difference.
So what does this mean? Well to simplify:
A majority of the men (30%+ or roughly 1 in 3 at the minimum) in her matches have no interest in her as a person and just want to slay her (low quality matches.)
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A small minority of the women (less than 15% or roughly 1 in 10) in his matches want to slay him, meaning the majority is potential high quality matches.
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This means that the average good looking man is about 2.38 times more likely to get into a good relationship than the average good looking woman. Considering that you are only meant to get married once to a good, attractive partner, this is a ginormous advantage.
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Now obviously we have to address hypergamy. For those unaware, hypergamy is the idea that women will ditch their looksmatch and go for the top men even if they are bottom of the barrel themselves.
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However if you think about it for even half a second, there's a very big elephant in the room we have to address here. All the women are at the general disposal of men that are 7/10 or above, most men below that aren't subjected to anything at all. And considering that we have more attractive women (due to major makeup, frauding, plastic surgery, diets, etc) than attractive men, this means that there is a very large diaspora of attractive women that aren't able to get their looksmatch.
What does this mean? This means that if you were to dedicate yourself and ascend to around a 7/10 (roughly HHTN - LCL) you would be able to date women 2 - 3 levels higher than you simply because they have no looksmatch whatsoever.
To put this plainly:
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This HHTN - LCL could get with these women with varyingly high levels of success:
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(Thanks to Daddy's Home for the women above, one's below are mine)
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As you can see above, all of these women are the top performers. All 7/10 or above easily. This is what you're exposed to as a HHTN+.
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Male SMV is also calculated much more differently than female SMV.
Male SMV is calculated by:
Looks
Style
Physique
Height
Money (networth + yearly income)
Status (social media followers, your occupation)
Age (Peaks within 25 - 35)
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Female SMV is calculated by:
Face
Breast Size
Butt Size
Hair Type/Quality
Legs (Whether they are groomed, long, decently proportioned, etc)
Stomach (Whether they have a gut, pouch, or a flat stomach)
BMI Score
Fitness (How often they workout)
Bodycount
Whether they have children already or not
Who the children they have are from (One man or multiple)
Femininity (Whether they are masculine, androgynous, or feminine)
Age (Peaks between 18 and 25)
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So as you can see, female SMV is basically all genetics and looks. Nobody cares if they are rich, intelligent, hardworking, etc. While this means that they can be given a super easy life if they have these traits, the majority of women do not. This also means that they cant work on themselves. There is no way to increase your butt size naturally (gym makes it hard and weird) or your breast size. You also can't fraud legs, bodycount, children, etc. Basically once a woman's SMV drops, it stays there. A woman's SMV cannot ever go up.
Male SMV is much more different. You can improve it overtime and there is a massive window where your SMV is peaking constantly. This means that a man's SMV is fluctuating and goes up more often than it goes down. It also only somewhat dependent on genetics. An average guy still has money, networth, status, style, age, etc. A woman has none of these. A woman cannot improve themselves without hardmaxxing and even then it may still be pointless.
This means that male SMV can actually be at a 10/10 consistently while female SMV cannot. A woman is inevitably going to age (30+) and is going to permanently lose their SMV. This is what causes this:
Older women are more likely to suffer from depression than older men, with studies consistently showing higher rates of depression symptoms, diagnosis, and persistence among women over 60. While both genders face risks, women are more likely to experience depressive symptoms (e.g., sadness, worthlessness), while men often report more somatic symptoms (e.g., sleep issues, fatigue). (Source)
Male SMV can stay with men for a very long time especially if they age well. Most "mature woman" tropes/fetishes are just a porn addict's dream and they lose that attraction the second post nut clarity hits. To summarize, there's a very small amount of people that actually want to LTR an older woman, most are just porn addicts which is unfortunate for them and it means obviously that those people would be terrible partners.
However Male SMV stays high quality for an extremely long time. Here's a prime example of this:
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Donald Trump is a mere year older than Hillary yet Hillary's and her LTR are like this:
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While Donald Trump and his LTR are like this:
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Both are extremely famous, extremely rich, and loved by their respective parties. Yet Trump's SMV annihilates Hillary's.
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TL;DR: Your SMV as a man has an extremely long window of improvement. You peak for nearly 10 years of your life and even after that, your SMV can always go up and up and up. Don't lose hope from some surface level graphs. You are not inferior to women whatsoever. Keep your head up high and dedicate yourself for a few years and live the rest of your life being treated as a God by society. Your SMV is much higher quality than a woman's SMV, regardless of numbers. You only get married once anyway. Female "High SMV" is meaningless because the ginormous numbers of men they match with and are worshipped by look like this:
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Image TL;DR:
10/10 Female SMV:
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10/10 Male SMV:
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The world is yours.
@Sayori @Pony @Hernan @tuberculosisinmybal Pin this shit. No more rotfuel from "muh MTB smv higher than chad it's over."
@HtnceI
Big thank yous to @Jason Voorhees for initially dropping this truthnvke on my "SMV differences between men and women are insane" thread:
And a big thank you to @davidlaidisme67 for inspiring me to make this thread today.
Chad actually has as much smv as the average woman.
The girl is like a 5 if I'm being nice, really a 4 at best when I look back at it.
why did you put smirking cat?Severely downplaying what men need for high smv while overplaying what women need, you say "looks" for men but then go far more in depth for women when it comes to the same thing, you say "physique" for men but then go far more in depth for women etc.
You also misinterpreted smv with qol and dmv, smv is strictly as the name implies sexual. So your entire thread is an essay of biased cope so you don't rope when you finally realise how abysmal your smv is
BookmarkedSo by all general metrics, female SMV absolutely annihilates male SMV. It's not even close. To give an idea on how insanely mismatched male vs female SMV is, assuming you were dead average in everything and above average by some metrics, your SMV looksmatch would be an ugly, below average women with 2 kids from 2 different men.
However there are 2 sides to this story, male and female SMV are fundamentally different. Attraction from men is not at all the same as attraction from women. In fact it's so fundamentally different that a majority of women hate large scale attention from men while a majority of men love it. This is due to how differently male and female SMV work.
_________
To lay it out better, here's a starter statistic:
Roughly 13% of women on [Pew Research Center] dating apps cite casual sex as a major reason for usage, significantly lower than the 31% of men who report the same. While many women are open to casual encounters, only a small minority use these platforms exclusively for hookups, with studies suggesting higher percentages prefer long-term dating. (Source)
This means that viewing SMV face value is inherently wrong, because less than 15% of women are on dating apps to have sex/one night stands and more than 30% of men are on dating apps to have sex/one night stands. This means that roughly 1 in 10 women are on dating apps to have sex and 1 in 3 men are on dating apps to have sex. That is a massive difference.
So what does this mean? Well to simplify:
A majority of the men (30%+ or roughly 1 in 3 at the minimum) in her matches have no interest in her as a person and just want to slay her (low quality matches.)
View attachment 5033120
A small minority of the women (less than 15% or roughly 1 in 10) in his matches want to slay him, meaning the majority is potential high quality matches.
View attachment 5033165
This means that the average good looking man is about 2.38 times more likely to get into a good relationship than the average good looking woman. Considering that you are only meant to get married once to a good, attractive partner, this is a ginormous advantage.
__________
Now obviously we have to address hypergamy. For those unaware, hypergamy is the idea that women will ditch their looksmatch and go for the top men even if they are bottom of the barrel themselves.
View attachment 5033192
However if you think about it for even half a second, there's a very big elephant in the room we have to address here. All the women are at the general disposal of men that are 7/10 or above, most men below that aren't subjected to anything at all. And considering that we have more attractive women (due to major makeup, frauding, plastic surgery, diets, etc) than attractive men, this means that there is a very large diaspora of attractive women that aren't able to get their looksmatch.
What does this mean? This means that if you were to dedicate yourself and ascend to around a 7/10 (roughly HHTN - LCL) you would be able to date women 2 - 3 levels higher than you simply because they have no looksmatch whatsoever.
To put this plainly:
View attachment 5033232
This HHTN - LCL could get with these women with varyingly high levels of success:
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View attachment 5033261
View attachment 5033262
View attachment 5033263
View attachment 5033273
(Thanks to Daddy's Home for the women above, one's below are mine)
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As you can see above, all of these women are the top performers. All 7/10 or above easily. This is what you're exposed to as a HHTN+.
__________
Male SMV is also calculated much more differently than female SMV.
Male SMV is calculated by:
Looks
Style
Physique
Height
Money (networth + yearly income)
Status (social media followers, your occupation)
Age (Peaks within 25 - 35)
____
Female SMV is calculated by:
Face
Breast Size
Butt Size
Hair Type/Quality
Legs (Whether they are groomed, long, decently proportioned, etc)
Stomach (Whether they have a gut, pouch, or a flat stomach)
BMI Score
Fitness (How often they workout)
Bodycount
Whether they have children already or not
Who the children they have are from (One man or multiple)
Femininity (Whether they are masculine, androgynous, or feminine)
Age (Peaks between 18 and 25)
____
So as you can see, female SMV is basically all genetics and looks. Nobody cares if they are rich, intelligent, hardworking, etc. While this means that they can be given a super easy life if they have these traits, the majority of women do not. This also means that they cant work on themselves. There is no way to increase your butt size naturally (gym makes it hard and weird) or your breast size. You also can't fraud legs, bodycount, children, etc. Basically once a woman's SMV drops, it stays there. A woman's SMV cannot ever go up.
Male SMV is much more different. You can improve it overtime and there is a massive window where your SMV is peaking constantly. This means that a man's SMV is fluctuating and goes up more often than it goes down. It also only somewhat dependent on genetics. An average guy still has money, networth, status, style, age, etc. A woman has none of these. A woman cannot improve themselves without hardmaxxing and even then it may still be pointless.
This means that male SMV can actually be at a 10/10 consistently while female SMV cannot. A woman is inevitably going to age (30+) and is going to permanently lose their SMV. This is what causes this:
Older women are more likely to suffer from depression than older men, with studies consistently showing higher rates of depression symptoms, diagnosis, and persistence among women over 60. While both genders face risks, women are more likely to experience depressive symptoms (e.g., sadness, worthlessness), while men often report more somatic symptoms (e.g., sleep issues, fatigue). (Source)
Male SMV can stay with men for a very long time especially if they age well. Most "mature woman" tropes/fetishes are just a porn addict's dream and they lose that attraction the second post nut clarity hits. To summarize, there's a very small amount of people that actually want to LTR an older woman, most are just porn addicts which is unfortunate for them and it means obviously that those people would be terrible partners.
However Male SMV stays high quality for an extremely long time. Here's a prime example of this:
View attachment 5033353
View attachment 5033357
Donald Trump is a mere year older than Hillary yet Hillary's and her LTR are like this:
View attachment 5033364
While Donald Trump and his LTR are like this:
View attachment 5033367
Both are extremely famous, extremely rich, and loved by their respective parties. Yet Trump's SMV annihilates Hillary's.
______________________________________________________
TL;DR: Your SMV as a man has an extremely long window of improvement. You peak for nearly 10 years of your life and even after that, your SMV can always go up and up and up. Don't lose hope from some surface level graphs. You are not inferior to women whatsoever. Keep your head up high and dedicate yourself for a few years and live the rest of your life being treated as a God by society. Your SMV is much higher quality than a woman's SMV, regardless of numbers. You only get married once anyway. Female "High SMV" is meaningless because the ginormous numbers of men they match with and are worshipped by look like this:
View attachment 5033408
____
Image TL;DR:
10/10 Female SMV:
View attachment 5033419
10/10 Male SMV:
View attachment 5033422View attachment 5033423
The world is yours.
@Sayori @Pony @Hernan @tuberculosisinmybal Pin this shit. No more rotfuel from "muh MTB smv higher than chad it's over."
@HtnceI
Big thank yous to @Jason Voorhees for initially dropping this truthnvke on my "SMV differences between men and women are insane" thread:
And a big thank you to @davidlaidisme67 for inspiring me to make this thread today.
