Chadlite vs Chad

I think vito looks a bit wack (chin) but your list is acceptable and directionally correct- the only issue I take with it is that 0.1% of the population don't look better than Archie - not even close. I see at least a thousand people a week and don't see anybody better than archie and I live in a major western megacity.
Yes top 0.1% is lowest cl so 7.0 archie is 7.2 imo so more like top 0.08%
 
Yes top 0.1% is lowest cl so 7.0 archie is 7.2 imo so more like top 0.08%
I would put the percentages as more like Cl = top 1% and Chad = top 0.05%. You seriously think 1/1000 guys is chadlite? In a whole yeargroup of a college of young men you think 1/1000 is chadlite? Unless you live in a very underprivileged area I think that its more than that.
 
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Okay so
Low cl= archie/bojack
Mid cl= zeta/chico
High cl= tom cruise/elias de poot
Low chad= vito basso/ alexander zanoza
Mid chad= Ian somerhalder/andreas eriksen
High chad= Hexum/hernan drago/de la cruz
I gave atleast 2 exemples for each so it's more objective
Zeta is chico looksmatch. Tiktokcel galore
 
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Who would you put in each of the 6 slots.
low CL Hexum
mid CL Dillin Latham
high CL Clavicular
low Chad Cookine King
mid Chad Zario
high Chad Bojack
Adamlit Zeta
True Adam Damien Kater
 
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cl is like top models and he is no where near that
I know that a lot of people see it this way but it doesn't actually make sense. Look at the pictures here: https://incels.wiki/w/Chadlite. I think that these pictures are very generous but I think the standard have been corrupted massively by the rise of tiktok. Chico is a chad, Barrett is a chad etc. The percentage of men who are models in general is less than 1%, top male models? gotta be under 0.01%. Sure you can factor in height but even then I think the ratios are wayyy off.
 
low CL Hexum
mid CL Dillin Latham
high CL Clavicular
low Chad Cookine King
mid Chad Zario
high Chad Bojack
Adamlit Zeta
True Adam Damien Kater
use of the word adamlite is the most unacceptable part of this list:lul:
 
I would put the percentages as more like Cl = top 1% and Chad = top 0.05%. You seriously think 1/1000 guys is chadlite? In a whole yeargroup of a college of young men you think 1/1000 is chadlite? Unless you live in a very underprivileged area I think that its more than that.
Yes but I told you my rates are really strict
 
if you don't offer alternatives for each spot
I think ur ragebaiting but I'll do it anyway lowkey bored
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(RATING THEIR PRIMES BTW)
(RATING ONLY FACE, NOT FRAME/HEIGHT/ETC)
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Chad- (Top Top Supermodels etc)
Hernan Drago, Richard Ramirez, etc
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High Chadlite- (Top Super models etc)
Andrea Eriksen, Kunasa, etc
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Chadlite- (super models etc)
Dolph Lundgren, Islam Dulatov, Ian Somerhalder, Tom Cruise, etc
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Low Chadlite- (models etc)
Chico Lachowski
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High HTN- (close to models)
Mattia Basso, Cristiano Ronaldo
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HTN- (Handsome guys, but not really model potential)
Tom Welling, Zeta @Zeta Lottainnn @lottainnn
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Low HTN- (slightly handsome)
Marlon, K-Shami
(Marlon would be a nobody without his height+frame btw)
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High MTN- (top of average)
Clavicular @Clavicular
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MTN (average)
ascension.n @ascension.n
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Low MTN- (almost ugly but still average)
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High LTN- (almost average but still ugly)
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LTN- (ugly)
wannabechico @wannabechico
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Low LTN- (almost subhuman)
Lionel Messi, sub5victim @sub5victim
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Subhuman- (obese, burn victims, etc)
bo2cel, Random obese, jest14 @jest14
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Ah yes. K shami only a tier below tom welling. Amazing thread
 
Just cus he's new doesn't mean he's chopped. Zeta is really fucking handsome, as is Chico. Although I would put both as chad chico is higher.
chico's prime mogs @Zeta to death
 
I think ur ragebaiting but I'll do it anyway lowkey bored
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(RATING THEIR PRIMES BTW)
(RATING ONLY FACE, NOT FRAME/HEIGHT/ETC)
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Chad- (Top Top Supermodels etc)
Hernan Drago, Richard Ramirez, etc
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High Chadlite- (Top Super models etc)
Andrea Eriksen, Kunasa, etc
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Chadlite- (super models etc)
Dolph Lundgren, Islam Dulatov, Ian Somerhalder, Tom Cruise, etc
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Low Chadlite- (models etc)
Chico Lachowski
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High HTN- (close to models)
Mattia Basso, Cristiano Ronaldo
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HTN- (Handsome guys, but not really model potential)
Tom Welling, Zeta @Zeta Lottainnn @lottainnn
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Low HTN- (slightly handsome)
Marlon, K-Shami
(Marlon would be a nobody without his height+frame btw)
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High MTN- (top of average)
Clavicular @Clavicular
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MTN (average)
ascension.n @ascension.n
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Low MTN- (almost ugly but still average)
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High LTN- (almost average but still ugly)
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LTN- (ugly)
wannabechico @wannabechico
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Low LTN- (almost subhuman)
Lionel Messi, sub5victim @sub5victim
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Subhuman- (obese, burn victims, etc)
bo2cel, Random obese, jest14 @jest14
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Your list is directionally correct. But your rating is simply too harsh and incongruent with the histoircal meaning of the terms used. Read https://incels.wiki/w/Chadlite - the examples given would be your LTN. I disagree with both ratings and I'm somewhere in the middle but idk how you can rate Chico - one of the highest paid male models in history as low chadlite. If chadlite is top 0.1% (an EXTREMELY harsh percentile estimate - its higher in my opinion) and roughly 0.1% of the male population are models? So you think Chico is just some ordinary model?
 
Ah yes. K shami only a tier below tom welling. Amazing thread
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?? What do you want? I think 2 tiers is an acceptable gap between the two but I genuinely believe that they're one apart.
 
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idk how you can rate Chico - one of the highest paid male models in history as low chadlite.
he's was a top paid model because he was handsome+ he had a ''certain look''

he had an extremely unique youthful feminine cute look

just look at him now he aged like shit because of this.
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He lost his ''look'' and instantly became a ltn/low mtn

while high bonemass masculine models like David Gandy, Hernan Drago, etc aged good or atleast better than chico lmaoooo
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low CL Hexum
mid CL Dillin Latham
high CL Clavicular
low Chad Cookine King
mid Chad Zario
high Chad Bojack
Adamlit Zeta
True Adam Damien Kater
@zemult @druiglooksmaxer
 
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From what I've seen Chadlite is the rarest rating - people seem to forget about it and jump from htn to chad. I thought for 5-10 minutes and I think that this is a reasonable ranking (using popular figures).

High chad - Ian Somerhalder
Mid Chad - Tom Cruise
Low Chad - Marlon
High Chadlite - Tom Welling
Mid Chadlite - KShami
Low Chadlite - Clavicular

Let me know your thoughts and where some other people would fit in (derb? archie? - the big 3 supermodels all make high chad imo)
Welling is chadlite in agartha 😂 clear chad
 
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Welling is chadlite in agartha 😂 clear chad
First time somebody accused me of underrating - I think he looks really good in the smallville edits but to me is like B tech Henry Cavill in the same way that chase crawford is b tech ian somerhalder.
 
op is a middle schoolboy maximalist living in a black and white world?
Read the entire thread. The whole discussion is basically people saying "this person isn't correctly rated" which I take no issue with. However, its completely useless for both parties in the discussion if the disagreeer doesn't provide a counterexample or explain their position.

Everyone says "Clavicular chadlite jfl you're a retard"

Ok.

Something actually interesting would be saying

"Clavicular might reach chadlite after bimax but atm he is mhtn, a better example for his slot is romulus"
 
Read the entire thread. The whole discussion is basically people saying "this person isn't correctly rated" which I take no issue with. However, its completely useless for both parties in the discussion if the disagreeer doesn't provide a counterexample or explain their position.

Everyone says "Clavicular chadlite jfl you're a retard"

Ok.

Something actually interesting would be saying

"Clavicular might reach chadlite after bimax but atm he is mhtn, a better example for his slot is romulus"
This is why your comment is disinteresting and banal - I tried earlier in the thread to coax people like you into a reasoning their opinions but they did not. However, it seems that making fun of them is more likely to get a response :lul:
 
From what I've seen Chadlite is the rarest rating - people seem to forget about it and jump from htn to chad. I thought for 5-10 minutes and I think that this is a reasonable ranking (using popular figures).

High chad - Ian Somerhalder
Mid Chad - Tom Cruise
Low Chad - Marlon
High Chadlite - Tom Welling
Mid Chadlite - KShami
Low Chadlite - Clavicular

Let me know your thoughts and where some other people would fit in (derb? archie? - the big 3 supermodels all make high chad imo)
Dogshit rating.

Kshami is frauded HTN

Clavicular is uncanny JohnPorkcel

Tom Welling is appeal Adam and easily Chad
 
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Read the entire thread. The whole discussion is basically people saying "this person isn't correctly rated" which I take no issue with. However, its completely useless for both parties in the discussion if the disagreeer doesn't provide a counterexample or explain their position.

Everyone says "Clavicular chadlite jfl you're a retard"

Ok.

Something actually interesting would be saying

"Clavicular might reach chadlite after bimax but atm he is mhtn, a better example for his slot is romulus"
I’m telling nothing on Clavicular, i don’t even know who he is.

But I don’t see any purpose to add Cruise so high in a rank if it’s clearly make gaze who was never ever appealing to most women or at least I never saw him being in different lists on this topic among male celebs of his generation on as well as never heard girls drooling on him. That’s exactly what I asked about actually

And yeah, u r calling for constructive discussion but started jestering in the first reply to my absolutely neutral comment
 
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if you don't offer alternatives for each spot that you dispute then you're an iqcel.
Its like this

Adult: "Fish and chips for dinner? Or something else"
Toddler: "No fish and chips!!! 😡"
Adult: "soo.... what else?"
Toddler: "😡😡😡"
shove this contrived comparison up your ass lol its not good
 
This is why your comment is disinteresting and banal - I tried earlier in the thread to coax people like you into a reasoning their opinions but they did not. However, it seems that making fun of them is more likely to get a response :lul:
I doubt your first response makes fun of me but rather on u. Like if I can’t embrace Cruise as a Top Tier then I’m so retarded to call him barely better then subhuman. Okay, but it’s from your pov only and shows your level tbh. But no offence, seems like we already found the root of the misunderstanding
 
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I’m telling nothing on Clavicular, i don’t even know who he is.

But I don’t see any purpose to add Cruise so high in a rank if it’s clearly make gaze who was never ever appealing to most women or at least I never saw him being in different lists on this topic among male celebs of his generation on as well as never heard girls drooling on him. That’s exactly what I asked about actually

And yeah, u r calling for constructive discussion but started jestering in the first reply to my absolutely neutral comment
You are right - I was rude unecessarily - I'm sorry.

However, I hope in turn that you can appreciate that the rest of this thread has simply been people making unsubstantiated claims about the accuracy of the list I made. My response to you would have been an appropriate response to almost any other user involved in this thread.

Your claim that Cruise is male gaze vs female gaze isn't particularly strong (its not terrible though - most women who work with him just say he's a bad person lol)

How much women drool isn't the best metric for facial attractiveness when there are others such as facial ratios, long-standingness in media as a sex symbol etc...

Also, you are using your perosnal anecodtal experience of what women find attractive. Whenever I've asked women who they think are the most attractive men - they will make a list of names and almost always there will be at least one of tom cruise, henry cavill or brad pitt.
 
shove this contrived comparison up your ass lol its not good
Why is it not good? Once again people just fail to substantiate their opinions and replace my example with a better one.
The message I'm replying to is another demonstration of the principle I was stating.

Regardless of whether you think the analogy is good or not you MUST appreciate that saying "x is not this, instead they're this and a better person for that spot is y" is an infinitely more productive response than "x is not this"
 
women think sean oprey and jordan barret are ugly so whats ur point, they are in your list arent they
People here dont care about women
This is purely just for mogging
 
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You are right - I was rude unecessarily - I'm sorry.

However, I hope in turn that you can appreciate that the rest of this thread has simply been people making unsubstantiated claims about the accuracy of the list I made. My response to you would have been an appropriate response to almost any other user involved in this thread.

Your claim that Cruise is male gaze vs female gaze isn't particularly strong (its not terrible though - most women who work with him just say he's a bad person lol)

How much women drool isn't the best metric for facial attractiveness when there are others such as facial ratios, long-standingness in media as a sex symbol etc...

Also, you are using your perosnal anecodtal experience of what women find attractive. Whenever I've asked women who they think are the most attractive men - they will make a list of names and almost always there will be at least one of tom cruise, henry cavill or brad pitt.
Yeah, I got your answer was kinda aggressive due to previous responses, It’s okay.

Ik there are many metrics but I guess there are 3 objections:
1. About metrics, I can’t find at least a period where Tom Cruise was such a good looking, being young he was full of flaws: eyes, eyebrows, teeth, nose, forward growth, angularity, jaw, cheekbones. Watching him now he is too old to be listed anywhere actually, maybe you could point on his prime period

2. Long standing in media as a sex symbol is a bad point on it’s own, it’s much more about smv, not psl and especially back then in pre internet era or even pre smartphones with internet and apps era. At some point Stallone was a sex-symbol and how fun it coincided with his most powerful period in Hollywood, same for Bruce Willis and many others, that’s being said Cruise was popular and powerful in Hollywood since 80’a to this day…

3. Female gaze actually very important thing as initially the point of looksmaxing is increasing your appeal to woman, therefore there should be standards but those standards should be taken carefully with splitting what men think women like and what women really like. And while Cruise was named as a hot celeb by some magazines and etc. it’s hard to split it from his popularity but there wasn’t a single year in his career he was in a spotlights of women desire like Depp, Dicaprio, Pitt, Clooney and etc, I think it means something

P.S. I wasn’t using my own experience furthermore I’m not asking women such stuff as it’s useless due to many reasons and I wouldn’t use it as an argument here because drawing conclusions using own experience is literally logical error
 
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Looking at the young British male phenotype
HTN starts at 81st percentile (I would say 80th usually but people would then dispute the chavvy geez on my chart)
Chadlite starts at 95th percentile

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From what I've seen Chadlite is the rarest rating - people seem to forget about it and jump from htn to chad. I thought for 5-10 minutes and I think that this is a reasonable ranking (using popular figures).

High chad - Ian Somerhalder
Mid Chad - Tom Cruise
Low Chad - Marlon
High Chadlite - Tom Welling
Mid Chadlite - KShami
Low Chadlite - Clavicular

Let me know your thoughts and where some other people would fit in (derb? archie? - the big 3 supermodels all make high chad imo)
marlon mid cl, clav mhtn, welling chad, somerhalder low/mid chad
 
Yeah, I got your answer was kinda aggressive due to previous responses, It’s okay.

Ik there are many metrics but I guess there are 3 objections:
1. About metrics, I can’t find at least a period where Tom Cruise was such a good looking, being young he was full of flaws: eyes, eyebrows, teeth, nose, forward growth, angularity, jaw, cheekbones. Watching him now he is too old to be listed anywhere actually, maybe you could point on his prime period

2. Long standing in media as a sex symbol is a bad point on it’s own, it’s much more about smv, not psl and especially back then in pre internet era or even pre smartphones with internet and apps era. At some point Stallone was a sex-symbol and how fun it coincided with his most powerful period in Hollywood, same for Bruce Willis and many others, that’s being said Cruise was popular and powerful in Hollywood since 80’a to this day…

3. Female gaze actually very important thing as initially the point of looksmaxing is increasing your appeal to woman, therefore there should be standards but those standards should be taken carefully with splitting what men think women like and what women really like. And while Cruise was named as a hot celeb by some magazines and etc. it’s hard to split it from his popularity but there wasn’t a single year in his career he was in a spotlights of women desire like Depp, Dicaprio, Pitt, Clooney and etc, I think it means something

P.S. I wasn’t using my own experience furthermore I’m not asking women such stuff as it’s useless due to many reasons and I wouldn’t use it as an argument here because drawing conclusions using own experience is literally logical error
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this is a fairly accurate repsentation of his prime.

Eyes, brows, cheekbones, angularity are all phenomenal as you can see.
Teeth, Jaw - agreed but he got them fixed early in his career.

2. Agreed - my original post was not intended to be about SMV. My main metric which I sorta forgot to mention is like: face next to other face, who mogs. I think if you put somerhalder, cruise, marlon, welling, kshami, clav in an order with their faces then one would mog the other etc etc in the order indicated.

3. Female gaze is the most importnat thing from a pragmatic point of view agreed but the original thread was meant to be about mogging.

If I'm honest because I didn't clarify my metric - your points here are stronger than mine - and it looks like I'm moving the goalposts. I think there is something where I mention that this is my metric earlier in the thread but I didn't raise it with you.
 
Looking at the young British male phenotype
HTN starts at 81st percentile (I would say 80th usually but people would then dispute the chavvy geez on my chart)
Chadlite starts at 95th percentile

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Icl this chart isn't great - I think 78 looks better than 96 and there are plenty of other examples that are weird in this chart.

Although I'm British fand most guys ik (richer areas) are more of the 88 phenotype which you maybe tell is quite different to the others.
 
Dogshit rating.

Kshami is frauded HTN

Clavicular is uncanny JohnPorkcel

Tom Welling is appeal Adam and easily Chad
I agree KShami is frauded and Clav has smth slightly off about his look but they're both handsome and definitely no lower than htn.

Saying the words "appeal adam" halved your bdnf so I advise against it. Imo welling looks really good in smallville but kind of like a b-tech henry cavill in the same way that chase crawford is a b tech somerhalder.
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I think if he is chad then he's scraping it.
 
1. View attachment 4075101View attachment 4075103 this is a fairly accurate repsentation of his prime.

Eyes, brows, cheekbones, angularity are all phenomenal as you can see.
Teeth, Jaw - agreed but he got them fixed early in his career.
I agree, this must be his prime period, although he wasn’t young here, ofc I was thinking about his earlier years and must admit he is much better looking here. I still think his chin and jaw and eyes here while ofc mogs 100% of the forum aren’t that great comparing to top tier faces. Also middle third looks longer then other (judging by the eye) and nose is really weak point. I still think he should be moved lower but I don’t think there is any sense to debate further as I won’t say where he should be moved and won’t name somebody to switch with him either
 
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