Changing your eye color naturally is actually very easy but hard at the same time (high iqcels gtfih)

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So levobunolol has been shown to lighten eye color in very rare conditions but here are some problems I’ve found that are pretty much the main wall

1. Rarity
Levobunolol is rarely prescribed anymore. Even finding a source to order from was hard to do. It’s not over the counter so unless you get a prescription you can’t get it unless you order overseas and even overseas markets rarely have it. And people rarely get prescribed levobunolol

2. Eye pigment turnover
Levobunolol works by blocking b androgenic receptors which are responsible for activating camp signaling. When camp signaling is blocked all this means is one of the main pathways of tyrosinase (make melanin) production is reduced
However there are two problems
- residual pigment already produced will still be on your eye for months to years. And if you don’t keep doing it consistently your eyes will just produce melanin and no change will occur
- emergency pigmentation through other pathways can occur. When beta blockers activate they only target one mechanism. Even though it is the main mechanism there are other mechanisms your body can still use to produce melanin. Depending on how strong those other pathways produce melanin it may your eyes still might produce a lot (however it will still result in a net loss of melanin in the eye regardless so this isn’t a significant issue for eye lightening)



But mechanistically it is guaranteed that beta blockers reduce camp signaling and reducing camp signaling will lower melanin production

Only problem is that eye pigment remains on eye permanently. In fact, if you really wanted to alter eye color blocking melanin production is like the least of your worries (and maybe not even needed at all). Eye color doesn’t work like skin, with skin when you block tyrosinase the skin on the bottom layers will be lighter as they will have less melanin and then will replace the skin on the top layers. Thats how the skin cycle works. However think of the eye as that top layer of skin and there is no skin underneath to replace it. If you were to block cmp in a child with undeveloped pigment then the child will permanently have blue eyes

Simply blocking tyrosinase wont do anything because the problem isn’t making new pigment the problem is the pigment already on skin

That’s the same thing for eyes and it’s the reason why for example when you get a eye laser depigmentation procedure done even though it’s just destroying the pigment on the surface it leads to permanent results

It is also the reason why sometimes eye laser don’t work because in some individuals who have high cmp signaling their eyes are still actively producing melanin which means that eyes will still be dark after the laser as it gets quickly replaced by new melanin cells

and this is also why I think levobunolol eye lightening occurs mainly in old people.
Because old people have degraded eye pigment cells due to a lifetime of oxidative stress so when you block cmp which is what produces new pigment and combine it with degraded active pigment you then go from brown to blue eyes

So if we could find a way to combine levobunolol + some way to break down eyes active pigment (outside of lasers cause their expensive) then it’s pretty much a easily repeatable way of lightening eye color

For any high iqcels propose some theories on how we could break down active melanin pigment (not inhibiting new pigment production like levobunolol would do by blocking cmp)
 
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Laser depigmentation works because it physically destroys anterior stromal melanocytes, not because it “breaks down pigment”.

Also there is no reliable clinical evidence that levobunolol changes iris color:)feelswhy:). In glaucoma pharmacology the only drugs consistently known to alter iris pigmentation are prostaglandin analogues like latanoprost, which actually darken the iris.
 
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Cool thread but holy shit man work on your wording :KEKW:
 
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1. Rarity
Levobunolol is rarely prescribed anymore. Even finding a source to order from was hard to do. It’s not over the counter so unless you get a prescription you can’t get it unless you order overseas and even overseas markets rarely have it. And people rarely get prescribed levobunolol
 
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Laser depigmentation works because it physically destroys anterior stromal melanocytes, not because it “breaks down pigment”.

Also there is no reliable clinical evidence that levobunolol changes iris color:)feelswhy:). In glaucoma pharmacology the only drugs consistently known to alter iris pigmentation are prostaglandin analogues like latanoprost, which actually darken the iris.
Beta blockers inhibit cmp activation which is responsible for melanin production

You don’t need a clinical test for this that’s just the direct pathways

and that’s what I meant by breaking down pigment but I’m not going to use excessive technical terms
 
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The problem is assuming that lowering melanogenesis changes iris color,ur pathway is actully not wrong, but Iris melanocytes have extremely low turnover, so existing melanin remains for years. Reducing tyrosinase activity only affects new pigment synthesis, not the pigment already stored in stromal melanocytes.
Beta blockers inhibit cmp activation which is responsible for melanin production

You don’t need a clinical test for this that’s just the direct pathways

and that’s what I meant by breaking down pigment but I’m not going to use excessive technical terms
[https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/27/1...ient treatment of hyperpigmentation disorders.]
 
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The problem is assuming that lowering melanogenesis changes iris color,ur pathway is actully not wrong, but Iris melanocytes have extremely low turnover, so existing melanin remains for years. Reducing tyrosinase activity only affects new pigment synthesis, not the pigment already stored in stromal melanocytes.

[https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/27/1/97#:~:text=Among these strategies, tyrosinase inhibition,efficient treatment of hyperpigmentation disorders.]
yeah That’s the entire argument for this thread

Eye lightening is like 5% preventing new pigment production and 95% getting rid of existing melanin pigment
 
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So levobunolol has been shown to lighten eye color in very rare conditions but here are some problems I’ve found that are pretty much the main wall

1. Rarity
Levobunolol is rarely prescribed anymore. Even finding a source to order from was hard to do. It’s not over the counter so unless you get a prescription you can’t get it unless you order overseas and even overseas markets rarely have it. And people rarely get prescribed levobunolol

2. Eye pigment turnover
Levobunolol works by blocking b androgenic receptors which are responsible for activating camp signaling. When camp signaling is blocked all this means is one of the main pathways of tyrosinase (make melanin) production is reduced
However there are two problems
- residual pigment already produced will still be on your eye for months to years. And if you don’t keep doing it consistently your eyes will just produce melanin and no change will occur
- emergency pigmentation through other pathways can occur. When beta blockers activate they only target one mechanism. Even though it is the main mechanism there are other mechanisms your body can still use to produce melanin. Depending on how strong those other pathways produce melanin it may your eyes still might produce a lot (however it will still result in a net loss of melanin in the eye regardless so this isn’t a significant issue for eye lightening)



But mechanistically it is guaranteed that beta blockers reduce camp signaling and reducing camp signaling will lower melanin production

Only problem is that eye pigment remains on eye permanently. In fact, if you really wanted to alter eye color blocking melanin production is like the least of your worries (and maybe not even needed at all). Eye color doesn’t work like skin, with skin when you block tyrosinase the skin on the bottom layers will be lighter as they will have less melanin and then will replace the skin on the top layers. Thats how the skin cycle works. However think of the eye as that top layer of skin and there is no skin underneath to replace it. If you were to block cmp in a child with undeveloped pigment then the child will permanently have blue eyes

Simply blocking tyrosinase wont do anything because the problem isn’t making new pigment the problem is the pigment already on skin

That’s the same thing for eyes and it’s the reason why for example when you get a eye laser depigmentation procedure done even though it’s just destroying the pigment on the surface it leads to permanent results

It is also the reason why sometimes eye laser don’t work because in some individuals who have high cmp signaling their eyes are still actively producing melanin which means that eyes will still be dark after the laser as it gets quickly replaced by new melanin cells

and this is also why I think levobunolol eye lightening occurs mainly in old people.
Because old people have degraded eye pigment cells due to a lifetime of oxidative stress so when you block cmp which is what produces new pigment and combine it with degraded active pigment you then go from brown to blue eyes

So if we could find a way to combine levobunolol + some way to break down eyes active pigment (outside of lasers cause their expensive) then it’s pretty much a easily repeatable way of lightening eye color

For any high iqcels propose some theories on how we could break down active melanin pigment (not inhibiting new pigment production like levobunolol would do by blocking cmp)
I have ordered 7 Droppeds of levobulol + 7 droppers topical moxiflocain + 50 oral moxiflocain 400mg pills. Will update
 
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yeah That’s the entire argument for this thread

Eye lightening is like 5% preventing new pigment production and 95% getting rid of existing melanin pigment
just take it for year and years theory ig
 
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I have ordered 7 Droppeds of levobulol + 7 droppers topical moxiflocain + 50 oral moxiflocain 400mg pills. Will update
Drop ur source. The one I bought from tried scamming me
 
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So levobunolol has been shown to lighten eye color in very rare conditions but here are some problems I’ve found that are pretty much the main wall

1. Rarity
Levobunolol is rarely prescribed anymore. Even finding a source to order from was hard to do. It’s not over the counter so unless you get a prescription you can’t get it unless you order overseas and even overseas markets rarely have it. And people rarely get prescribed levobunolol

2. Eye pigment turnover
Levobunolol works by blocking b androgenic receptors which are responsible for activating camp signaling. When camp signaling is blocked all this means is one of the main pathways of tyrosinase (make melanin) production is reduced
However there are two problems
- residual pigment already produced will still be on your eye for months to years. And if you don’t keep doing it consistently your eyes will just produce melanin and no change will occur
- emergency pigmentation through other pathways can occur. When beta blockers activate they only target one mechanism. Even though it is the main mechanism there are other mechanisms your body can still use to produce melanin. Depending on how strong those other pathways produce melanin it may your eyes still might produce a lot (however it will still result in a net loss of melanin in the eye regardless so this isn’t a significant issue for eye lightening)



But mechanistically it is guaranteed that beta blockers reduce camp signaling and reducing camp signaling will lower melanin production

Only problem is that eye pigment remains on eye permanently. In fact, if you really wanted to alter eye color blocking melanin production is like the least of your worries (and maybe not even needed at all). Eye color doesn’t work like skin, with skin when you block tyrosinase the skin on the bottom layers will be lighter as they will have less melanin and then will replace the skin on the top layers. Thats how the skin cycle works. However think of the eye as that top layer of skin and there is no skin underneath to replace it. If you were to block cmp in a child with undeveloped pigment then the child will permanently have blue eyes

Simply blocking tyrosinase wont do anything because the problem isn’t making new pigment the problem is the pigment already on skin

That’s the same thing for eyes and it’s the reason why for example when you get a eye laser depigmentation procedure done even though it’s just destroying the pigment on the surface it leads to permanent results

It is also the reason why sometimes eye laser don’t work because in some individuals who have high cmp signaling their eyes are still actively producing melanin which means that eyes will still be dark after the laser as it gets quickly replaced by new melanin cells

and this is also why I think levobunolol eye lightening occurs mainly in old people.
Because old people have degraded eye pigment cells due to a lifetime of oxidative stress so when you block cmp which is what produces new pigment and combine it with degraded active pigment you then go from brown to blue eyes

So if we could find a way to combine levobunolol + some way to break down eyes active pigment (outside of lasers cause their expensive) then it’s pretty much a easily repeatable way of lightening eye color

For any high iqcels propose some theories on how we could break down active melanin pigment (not inhibiting new pigment production like levobunolol would do by blocking cmp)
everything u said was from the blakespeaks video jfl
 
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I have ordered 7 Droppeds of levobulol + 7 droppers topical moxiflocain + 50 oral moxiflocain 400mg pills. Will update
"will update" like it doesnt take years to see effect rofl
 
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