Chasing a certain image is a recipe for disaster.

[Jason Voorhees]

GF on your arm, big house, a nice suit luxury whip in the driveway. This is what I thought success means. Atleast that is what blackpill says, the external game is rigged on looks, status, and optics. Society and women perceive the value of men through that mirror first. Height, face, money, frame but the part that gets left out is grinding for the aesthetic often just leads to burnout, debt, and hollow validation that evaporates when the mask slips.

Inner happiness and peace don't come from that mirror. The aesthetic wins outside perceptions that's correct but chasing it as your source of meaning leaves you even more empty inside. You can hit every single metrics in that list I mentioned and still feel depressed, performing for a world that doesn't care. It might seem trivial and absurd now but there will be a point in life sooner or later where you might hit this realisation too

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@Chadeep @callard @Subhuman

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

GF on your arm, big house, a nice suit luxury whip in the driveway.

Seems like a very low bar to me.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Seems like a very low bar to me.

What's your bar then?

 

[Subhuman]

Seems like a very low bar to me.

Sounds like a dream to me

 

[Clqs]

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

What's your bar then?

At a minimum freedom, which if you want to keep modern luxury at is far more expensive then any of those things.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@polonaecel

 

[Klasik616]

GF on your arm, big house, a nice suit luxury whip in the driveway. This is what I thought success means. Atleast that is what blackpill says, the external game is rigged on looks, status, and optics. Society and women perceive the value of men through that mirror first. Height, face, money, frame but the part that gets left out is grinding for the aesthetic often just leads to burnout, debt, and hollow validation that evaporates when the mask slips.

Inner happiness and peace don't come from that mirror. The aesthetic wins outside perceptions that's correct but chasing it as your source of meaning leaves you even more empty inside. You can hit every single metrics in that list I mentioned and still feel depressed, performing for a world that doesn't care. It might seem trivial and absurd now but there will be a point in life sooner or later where you might hit this realisation too

I've been telling you this for 2 years.
Is not worth it.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

At a minimum freedom, which if you want to keep modern luxury at is far more expensive then any of those things.

Meh. You moved the goalposts but ended up in the same situation You say you want "freedom," but then you immediately anchor it to "modern luxury."

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

Meh. You moved the goalposts but ended up in the same situation You say you want "freedom," but then you immediately anchor it to "modern luxury."

How is having modern luxury some how not conducive to freedom?

I should somehow technologically regress becuse if I don't it raises cost? What.

Almost all those people achieve those things while having some shitty job, a boss, ect. Again the bar is low.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

How is having modern luxury some how not conducive to freedom?

I should somehow technologically regress becuse if I don't it raises cost? What.

Almost all those people achieve those things while having some shitty job, a boss, ect. Again the bar is low.

if you’re grinding a soul crushing 9-to-5 just to keep the payments current on those luxuries you aren’t free, you’re just a high maintenance cog. Many quant traders, Tech guys and people with high salaries end up in similar situations. True freedom is the leverage to walk away without collapsing. A guy living in a studio apartment who can quit his job tomorrow and travel for six months is freer than the guy in a mansion who is one bad quarter away from insolvency.

 

[Chadeep]

The world judges you by these external metrics. Many people fall into this trap of chasing the next big thing and it's a never ending loop. Some point you have to realise what's enough

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

if you’re grinding a soul crushing 9-to-5 just to keep the payments current on those luxuries you aren’t free, you’re just a high maintenance cog

No shit that's my entire point.

True freedom is the leverage to walk away without collapsing. A guy living in a studio apartment who can quit his job tomorrow and travel for six months is freer than the guy in a mansion who is one bad quarter away from insolvency.

Yes you can have freedom if you go live in a cave in Alaska with no clothing and drink puddle water. I have no desire to regress so much, nor see why such is a req precondition to freedom. Perhaps try achieving more.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

No shit that's my entire point.


Yes you can have freedom if you go live in a cave in Alaska with no clothing and drink puddle water. I have no desire to regress so much, nor see why such is a req precondition to freedom. Perhaps try achieving more.

You don't have to go off-grid to be free you just have to stop conflating access to capital with liberty

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

You don't have to go off-grid to be free you just have to stop conflating access to capital with liberty

To take your position to base you do. If the idea is that freedom cost nothing, that's true only if go completely off grid. Even then it'll cost you something to get off grid in the first place.

Traveling cost capital, so you'll still need it in some amount, just incrementally less then some other higher standard. But you absolutely need some level of capital.

Like I said, the original "dream" seemed like a low bar. I never said that I had to have or not have those things as preconditions to any standard. Merely that I was not going to give up modern luxury, because modern luxury cost capital that is great then 0, at any amount of consumption. What ever that consumption maybe.

 

[theonewhocantascend]

What most people crave is a low-cortisol lifestyle, they just tend to attribute it to material stuff, because the media along with Instagram culture have brainwashed them to think if you don’t own three Ferraris at 18, you are a “failure” in life.