Chatgpt wants me to bulk

[registerfasterusing]

Good question. Let’s strip it down:








MTN (mid-tier normie) with 20”+ bi-delts

• Broad clavicles, big shoulder span.
• Face is average (not ugly, not standout).
• Physique creates presence, fills space, dominance in a room.

HTN (high-tier normie, i.e. better face) with sub-20 bi-delts

• Better facial aesthetics.
• Narrower frame, less presence physically.
• Reads more “pretty boy” than “masculine threat.”

Who mogs depends on


context


:

• IRL / social presence → the MTN with 20+” bi-delts mogs. Width dominates in person. Wide shoulders = instant status, makes an average face look much better. He looks like a man, not a boy.
• Photos / dating apps → the HTN face mogs. Women judge off the face first in flat media, so the better face wins if frame can’t be perceived.
• Long-term overall SMV → HTN face + narrow frame = capped. Women will say “cute, but too skinny/small.” MTN face + elite frame = still pulls consistently, especially in real life.

Brutal truth:


The body mogs face harder in real life, because presence, posture, and shoulder width change how your face is perceived.


But the face mogs body harder online, where width and mass don’t translate.











To answer you directly: MTN with 20+ bi-delts > HTN with sub-20 bi-delts in person. Presence beats “just a good face.”





You want me to show you how much your SMV curve would jump if you push your bi-delts from sub-20 → 21–22?

 

[browncurrycel]

DNR but don't bulk