Chico has a sexy body

[Pakicel]

oh god another delusional curry
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He thinks he looks like a white person too and has O'pry's lower third. Claims to be 6.5 PSL or something.

Also, I don't think his PFL is the issue, it's his bad undereye support giving his eyes a round shape. I have the same issue. My PFL is around 32 mm measured with a digital caliper but eyes appear round with scleral show. When I push my lower lids up to the bottom of the iris, my eyes look horizontally long.

The solution to this is an infra saddle implant, which fixes the deficiency. But tbh it is hard to find surgeons who do this.

 

[Moggie]

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@volcelfatcel

 

[maxeverything]

Ya very asthetic, although those pics are from 10 years ago. Honestly my body looks like that just not quite as lean

 

[Deleted member 5892]

He thinks he looks like a white person too and has O'pry's lower third. Claims to be 6.5 PSL or something.

Also, I don't think his PFL is the issue, it's his bad undereye support giving his eyes a round shape. I have the same issue. My PFL is around 32 mm measured with a digital caliper but eyes appear round with scleral show. When I push my lower lids up to the bottom of the iris, my eyes look horizontally long.

The solution to this is an infra saddle implant, which fixes the deficiency. But tbh it is hard to find surgeons who do this.

His PFL itself isnt the issue, but his eyes look horizontally stunted, probably because his orbitals lack horizontal length
But yeah his undereye support is death tier
He can get undereye fat graft tho

 

[Deleted member 5892]

Ya very asthetic, although those pics are from 10 years ago. Honestly my body looks like that just not quite as lean

mirin tbh Im chicomaxxing my body

 

[Pakicel]

His PFL itself isnt the issue, but his eyes look horizontally stunted, probably because his orbitals lack horizontal length
But yeah his undereye support is death tier
He can get undereye fat graft tho

Oh. I see what you mean. Unlike me, his eyes as a whole are quite small relative to his skull. But even then if he were to fix his under eye support, it would fix the issue with the eye shape.

 

[maxeverything]

mirin tbh Im chicomaxxing my body

Do you have the body genetics for it? Small frame but good proportions with low body fat and good muscle insertions?

 

[Pakicel]

His PFL itself isnt the issue, but his eyes look horizontally stunted, probably because his orbitals lack horizontal length
But yeah his undereye support is death tier
He can get undereye fat graft tho

Nah. Undereye fat grafts won't fix the issue, He needs tighter lower eyelids that are the result of better support from the underlying bones. It is the same for me tbh. Canthos, fat grafts etc are cope. We need better skeletal support to fix the issue. It's either lefort 3 or coping with implants tbh.

 

[Pakicel]

His PFL itself isnt the issue, but his eyes look horizontally stunted, probably because his orbitals lack horizontal length
But yeah his undereye support is death tier
He can get undereye fat graft tho

Btw I think the PFL/horizontal length or whatever is overrated.

Like cruise has rather small eyes for his skull but his eye area looks good:

 

[Deleted member 5892]

Nah. Undereye fat grafts won't fix the issue, He needs tighter lower eyelids that are the result of better support from the underlying bones. It is the same for me tbh. Canthos, fat grafts etc are cope. We need better skeletal support to fix the issue. It's either lefort 3 or coping with implants tbh.

damn brutal

 

[Deleted member 5892]

Btw I think the PFL/horizontal length or whatever is overrated.

Like cruise has rather small eyes for his skull but his eye area looks good:

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its about harmony
Tom cruise is white, his pheno is different
Some people need PFL, others dont

 

[Pakicel]

damn brutal

Yeah I know. I don't understand how you don't know this btw. You have been on this site longer than I have lol.

 

[Pakicel]

its about harmony
Tom cruise is white, his pheno is different
Some people need PFL, others dont

Pretty much. It's not always about this ratio or that ratio or whatever, you just have to gauge whether some change will actually look better when considering the rest of your face.

 

[Deleted member 5892]

Yeah I know. I don't understand how you don't know this btw. You have been on this site longer than I have lol.

bc I dont needany of that shit maybe

 

[Deleted member 5892]

Pretty much. It's not always about this ratio or that ratio or whatever, you just have to gauge whether some change will actually look better when considering the rest of your face.

yea. Its basically over for him honestly. Death by pheno

 

[Pakicel]

yea. Its basically over for him honestly. Death by pheno

It's not that bad. Yeah. He is an indian. But it's not like he is a dravidian or something.

Obviously, not being white is living on hard mode but there are many people on here with non-ideal phenos who do well.

 

[Deleted member 5892]

It's not that bad. Yeah. He is an indian. But it's not like he is a dravidian or something.

Obviously, not being white is living on hard mode but there are many people on here with non-ideal phenos who do well.

cope

 

[Pakicel]

cope

What do you mean by cope lol? Yes. Whites do better than non-whites. But does that mean it is over for a dude like this for example:

He clearly isn't white. And will do worse than a white of same PSL but it is not like it is over for him lol.

 

[Deleted member 5892]

What do you mean by cope lol? Yes. Whites do better than non-whites. But does that mean it is over for a dude like this for example:

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He clearly isn't white. And will do worse than a white of same PSL but it is not like it is over for him lol.

JFL if you think that salludon has the same pheno as the cockroach above
Salludon doesn't look deathnik, just exotic

 

[Pakicel]

JFL if you think that salludon has the same pheno as the cockroach above
Salludon doesn't look deathnik, just exotic

Cope. He has arab phenotype. That is a big failo in the eyes of western women.

Also, the dude's pheno is not the issue. It's his failos.

 

[Deleted member 5892]

Cope. He has arab phenotype. That is a big failo in the eyes of western women.

Also, the dude's pheno is not the issue. It's his failos.

he has an arab phenotype. Not a ''cockroach arab phenotype''
im sure u get what i mean

 

[Pakicel]

JFL if you think that salludon has the same pheno as the cockroach above
Salludon doesn't look deathnik, just exotic

Btw what would you rate the 'cockroach'? I don't think he looks that bad lol. More like a LTN I guess. He is tall too. How is it over for him?

 

[JBcollector]

We failed to save chico

 

[Pakicel]

he has an arab phenotype. Not a ''cockroach arab phenotype''
im sure u get what i mean

Oh. You mean his colouring etc. Then yeah I agree.

 

[Deleted member 5892]

Oh. You mean his colouring etc. Then yeah I agree.

yeah. Hes ethnic but not to the point where when I look at him I see a dirty ethnic animal ya know

 

[exeight]

Ideal physique - lean coupled with proper muscle mass, with ideal proportions.

Anyone showing roided apes as examples are delusional copers.

this.

those people are fucking delusional... roided guys attract ONLY other men period.
of course gym is good (no question) but athletic body mogs roided to oblivion

those guys don't understand how nature/instinct/biology works... everything in a normal and healthy range is attractive
healthy (harmony) face = attractive
healthy height= attractive
healthy amount of muscles = attractive

everything in an extreme range = not normal = not healthy, so NOT ATTRACTIVE
too skinny = not attractive
too fat = not attractive
too many muscles (roided) = not attractive

of course roided people get attention but attention is not attraction (not always) the attention comes from this; they dont see everywhere roided guys so they look at them but attractive IS an athletic body period

 

[Deleted member 5892]

this.

those people are fucking delusional... roided guys attract ONLY other men period.
of course gym is good (no question) but athletic body mogs roided to oblivion

those guys don't understand how nature/instinct/biology works... everything in a normal and healthy range is attractive
healthy (harmony) face = attractive
healthy height= attractive
healthy amount of muscles = attractive

everything in an extreme range = not normal = not healthy, so NOT ATTRACTIVE
too skinny = not attractive
too fat = not attractive
too many muscles (roided) = not attractive

of course roided people get attention but attention is not attraction (not always) the attention comes from this; they dont see everywhere roided guys so they look at them but attractive IS an athletic body period

coping ogre bloatcels wont swallow the chicopill its over for them

 

[It'snotover]

He thinks he looks like a white person too and has O'pry's lower third. Claims to be 6.5 PSL or something.

Also, I don't think his PFL is the issue, it's his bad undereye support giving his eyes a round shape. I have the same issue. My PFL is around 32 mm measured with a digital caliper but eyes appear round with scleral show. When I push my lower lids up to the bottom of the iris, my eyes look horizontally long.

The solution to this is an infra saddle implant, which fixes the deficiency. But tbh it is hard to find surgeons who do this.

Shouldn't lower eyelid retraction fix it?

 

[Pakicel]

Shouldn't lower eyelid retraction fix it?

LER is a cope surgery. You have to understand that the root cause of weak undereye support, scleral show is due to lack of support from the infraorbital rims. If you just alter the soft tissue without addressing the root cause, your eyes will just look uncanny. Also, your lower eyelids will go back to where they were after some time as there is enough support from the infra orbital rims to hold them in place.

 

[Deleted member 5892]

LER is a cope surgery. You have to understand that the root cause of weak undereye support, scleral show is due to lack of support from the infraorbital rims. If you just alter the soft tissue without addressing the root cause, your eyes will just look uncanny. Also, your lower eyelids will go back to where they were after some time as there is enough support from the infra orbital rims to hold them in place.

based surgerypilled pakicel

 

[Pakicel]

based surgerypilled pakicel

I am not surgerypilled btw. Like I honestly don't think surgery can make anybody good looking. But it can fix glaring issues like recession etc. No fix for things like pheno, ratios, harmony or whatever. And those things unfortunately decide most of your appeal.

 

[Deleted member 5892]

I am not surgerypilled btw. Like I honestly don't think surgery can make anybody good looking. But it can fix glaring issues like recession etc. No fix for things like pheno, ratios, harmony or whatever. And those things unfortunately decide most of your appeal.

true ngl mirin

 

[Pakicel]

true ngl mirin

nothing to mire boyo. Everyone here knows this deep down. Only a few delusional copers who think they will be male models after bimax lol.

 

[It'snotover]

LER is a cope surgery. You have to understand that the root cause of weak undereye support, scleral show is due to lack of support from the infraorbital rims. If you just alter the soft tissue without addressing the root cause, your eyes will just look uncanny. Also, your lower eyelids will go back to where they were after some time as there is enough support from the infra orbital rims to hold them in place.

I got it. Basically you need to fix the root of the cause and not doing a temporary solution. I've seen guys with vertical scleral show that got cantho, LER and infras implants from taban and they looked uncanny. Fortunately i dont have vertical scleral show but only dark circles and i still have good fat pads because i'm young. Can an infras implant fix my issue? I'll get supras implants too to remove uee

 

[Pakicel]

I got it. Basically you need to fix the root of the cause and not doing a temporary solution. I've seen guys with vertical scleral show that got cantho, LER and infras implants from taban and they looked uncanny. Fortunately i dont have vertical scleral show but only dark circles and i still have good fat pads because i'm young. Can an infras implant fix my issue? I'll get supras implants too to remove uee

In general, good eye surgery outcomes are rare. Most people on here who got their eyes operated on either had underwhelming results or got botched. There have been a few who made solid improvements but that was after several surgeries. Like one user here got badly botched and turned into a meme after OD but did end up making a big difference to his eye area after three more surgeries.

If you have dark circles, I'd just get fat grafts or fillers. The only reason I am considering infra implants is due to scleral show and Negative Orbital Vector i.e. the lower part of my eyeballs bulge out from the side.

I would seriously consider the risks before touching your eyes tbh. If they are not death tier, I wouldn't get any eye procedures.

Btw taban is overrated. You should search his name on the forum and come across many posts from greycels who got underwhelming results from him.

 

[Pakicel]

I got it. Basically you need to fix the root of the cause and not doing a temporary solution. I've seen guys with vertical scleral show that got cantho, LER and infras implants from taban and they looked uncanny. Fortunately i dont have vertical scleral show but only dark circles and i still have good fat pads because i'm young. Can an infras implant fix my issue? I'll get supras implants too to remove uee

Also, supras are very difficult to augment. I have to date seen only one convincing supra implant result. Also, I would not fall for the hunter eyes meme touted by autists on here. A little bit of UEE is not a failo.

 

[It'snotover]

Also, supras are very difficult to augment. I have to date seen only one convincing supra implant result. Also, I would not fall for the hunter eyes meme touted by autists on here. A little bit of UEE is not a failo.

I agree, hunter eyes are a meme. I would want an uee similar to meeks, ian or vito basso, still visible but not too much. In my current state i have too much uee, believe me it failos me and it is the first thing that I want to fix when i'll turn 18, i dont think that puberty will give me more hooding ngl.

 

[It'snotover]

In general, good eye surgery outcomes are rare. Most people on here who got their eyes operated on either had underwhelming results or got botched. There have been a few who made solid improvements but that was after several surgeries. Like one user here got badly botched and turned into a meme after OD but did end up making a big difference to his eye area after three more surgeries.

If you have dark circles, I'd just get fat grafts or fillers. The only reason I am considering infra implants is due to scleral show and Negative Orbital Vector i.e. the lower part of my eyeballs bulge out from the side.

I would seriously consider the risks before touching your eyes tbh. If they are not death tier, I wouldn't get any eye procedures.

Btw taban is overrated. You should search his name on the forum and come across many posts from greycels who got underwhelming results from him.

Absolutely the lower part of the eyes doesn't buldge, like i said it's just because i want to fix dark circles and give to under eye area a little more projection. I'm 16 so my fat pads there are still good

 

[Pakicel]

Absolutely the lower part of the eyes doesn't buldge, like i said it's just because i want to fix dark circles and give to under eye area a little more projection. I'm 16 so my fat pads there are still good

Then I guess your case is the opposite of mine. My supras are fine but undereyes are bad.

 

[It'snotover]

Then I guess your case is the opposite of mine. My supras are fine but undereyes are bad.

Exactly. Unironically my eyes are failoed by supras. I think i would benefit a lot from a good implant to reduce uee, like i said i dont give a fuck about hunter eyes, too much uee also ruin my harmony imo. I plan to do infras implants much later than supras, heard that pagnoni is good for this. Doing ice hooding and it's cope ngl

 

[justbentbro]

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holy fuck first time i see pics of teen gandy