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otherwise known as Chin Ptosis
this is another reason that I recently discovered as to why my smile doesn't look great. and for those of you who have it, people in real life who see you in motion, talking, smiling and laughing will DEFINITELY notice this
if you have this, instead of your chin retaining its angularity as when you keep a neutral facial expression (if your chin is angular), or smile with a close mouth smile, it droops and really ruins the aesthetics of your lower third, especially from a side profile and 3/4ths view
see example:
As you can see it does not look aesthetic AT ALL
From:
www.realself.com
Interestingly, I know a guy in real life who has a smile which is completely the opposite of the above (at least with his head tilted slightly downwards and from a 3 4ths view) but his chin still looks insanely angular, and he looks great.
I have rarely seen anyone else with this tbh, even most male models and gl people dont have this but trust me when I say it looks very nice
but from the front it looks similar to this:
ignoring his teeth (which can be fixed relatively easily anyway), his lower third looks great - it is angular and quite aesthetic
Tbf I am unsure of what he looks like from a profile view with a full toothy smile so maybe his chin droops similar to the guy in the first example but I highly doubt this, because he looks INSANE from the angle that I described earlier (head tilted slightly downward and facing slightly away from the camera)
What I understand though from reading about this online is that such chin drooping is caused by:
- overactive mentalis muscle
- weak chin which does not have adequate bony support for the mentalis muscle
- excess soft tissue around the chin and mouth area
- removal of chin implant
also, it is known as "dynamic" chin ptosis when this occurs when you smile, and "static" when it is present in a neutral expression
treatment:
- botox
to treat overactive muscles
- resuspension of mentalis muscle surgically (apparently this can be done with a chin implant as well)
- and in cases of dynamic chin ptosis, tissue excision around the chin and mouth area is used more often it seems
interestingly enough, even gandy has this, although in the angle in the photo it doesn't seem as bad:
however, I'm wondering what everyone's thoughts are on this - is this as much of a looksmin as it seems like to me or am I overthinking it?
also, what would be the best way to fix it?
I don't want to end up get the equivalent of a chin implant when I really needed genio, and would like to get the most blackpill fix possible.
And in this case lots of doctors seem to be recommending botox, or chin pad tissue removal, as is the case of eppley.
However, after doing a little digging it seems to be that those with Chin Ptosis also seem to have problems with their zygomatic muscles, which is why I am thinking they might have a root cause (maybe craniofacial dystrophy) and doing something like soft tissue removal from the chin area could be a bluepill solution and not addressing the underlying cause.
I could be wrong though, but am interested to hear your thoughts
further reading:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
www.realself.com
aedit.com
aedit.com
- Search on Google "Dynamic Chin Ptosis Realself" for more doctors talking about it and how they'd treat it
Note: Actually I remember talking to a surgeon about this, and he was saying that he might be able to change my muscle attachments during my Bimax + Genio, and said that everyone has it to SOME extent. Although I think this is a lot less than what the first guy or gandy have
this is another reason that I recently discovered as to why my smile doesn't look great. and for those of you who have it, people in real life who see you in motion, talking, smiling and laughing will DEFINITELY notice this
if you have this, instead of your chin retaining its angularity as when you keep a neutral facial expression (if your chin is angular), or smile with a close mouth smile, it droops and really ruins the aesthetics of your lower third, especially from a side profile and 3/4ths view
see example:
As you can see it does not look aesthetic AT ALL
From:
Why does my chin stick out when I smile and how can I get rid of this? (Photo)
When I smile my chin sticks out and my mouth kind of sinks in. I really don't like how it makes the shape of my face look. It's only really when I smile, w...
www.realself.com
Interestingly, I know a guy in real life who has a smile which is completely the opposite of the above (at least with his head tilted slightly downwards and from a 3 4ths view) but his chin still looks insanely angular, and he looks great.
I have rarely seen anyone else with this tbh, even most male models and gl people dont have this but trust me when I say it looks very nice
but from the front it looks similar to this:
ignoring his teeth (which can be fixed relatively easily anyway), his lower third looks great - it is angular and quite aesthetic
Tbf I am unsure of what he looks like from a profile view with a full toothy smile so maybe his chin droops similar to the guy in the first example but I highly doubt this, because he looks INSANE from the angle that I described earlier (head tilted slightly downward and facing slightly away from the camera)
What I understand though from reading about this online is that such chin drooping is caused by:
- overactive mentalis muscle
- weak chin which does not have adequate bony support for the mentalis muscle
- excess soft tissue around the chin and mouth area
- removal of chin implant
also, it is known as "dynamic" chin ptosis when this occurs when you smile, and "static" when it is present in a neutral expression
treatment:
- botox
to treat overactive muscles- resuspension of mentalis muscle surgically (apparently this can be done with a chin implant as well)
- and in cases of dynamic chin ptosis, tissue excision around the chin and mouth area is used more often it seems
interestingly enough, even gandy has this, although in the angle in the photo it doesn't seem as bad:
however, I'm wondering what everyone's thoughts are on this - is this as much of a looksmin as it seems like to me or am I overthinking it?
also, what would be the best way to fix it?
I don't want to end up get the equivalent of a chin implant when I really needed genio, and would like to get the most blackpill
fix possible.And in this case lots of doctors seem to be recommending botox, or chin pad tissue removal, as is the case of eppley.
However, after doing a little digging it seems to be that those with Chin Ptosis also seem to have problems with their zygomatic muscles, which is why I am thinking they might have a root cause (maybe craniofacial dystrophy) and doing something like soft tissue removal from the chin area could be a bluepill solution and not addressing the underlying cause.
I could be wrong though, but am interested to hear your thoughts
further reading:
Chin Ptosis: Classification, Anatomy, and Correction
For years, the notion of chin ptosis was somehow integrated with the concept of witch's chin. That was a mistake on many levels because chin droop has four major causes, all different and with some overlap. With this article, the surgeon can quickly diagnose ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Cosmetic Procedure Questions & Real Doctor Answers | Realself
Read commonly asked questions about plastic surgery and dental procedures. Get expert answers from qualified doctors and medical professionals.
www.realself.com
Surgical Correction of Chin Ptosis Overview: Cost, Recovery, Before & After | AEDIT
Definitive guide on Surgical Correction of Chin Ptosis, including the procedure overview, benefits, risks, recovery, before & after photos, costs, and more.
aedit.com
Chin Ptosis Overview - Causes, Treatment Options, and More | AEDIT
Definitive guide to Chin Ptosis, including causes, symptoms and available treatments. Everything you need to know to about this condition, with information from providers certified by AEDIT.
aedit.com
Plastic Surgery Case Study - Submental Approach to Hyperdynamic Chin Ptosis Correction - Explore Plastic Surgery
Hyperdynamic chin ptosis can be treated by a submental approach with bone and soft tissue reductions.
exploreplasticsurgery.com
- Search on Google "Dynamic Chin Ptosis Realself" for more doctors talking about it and how they'd treat it
Note: Actually I remember talking to a surgeon about this, and he was saying that he might be able to change my muscle attachments during my Bimax + Genio, and said that everyone has it to SOME extent. Although I think this is a lot less than what the first guy or gandy have
