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Disclaimer:
THIS THREAD IS MADE OF COMPILED RESEARCH, DATA, AND SELF-MADE CONCLUSIONS FROM SUCH INFORMATION, AND IS NOT MEANT TO BE TAKEN AS MEDICAL ADVICE. I AM NOT A PROFESSIONAL.
Prologue
Over the course of my life I've always been afraid of consuming too much cholesterol due to the common information we see online about the dangerous effects it can have if over consumed/produced. Of course too much of anything is bad but I've heard that the supposed fact of having high cholesterol being bad is a complete myth. I was skeptical, and instead of just trusting users on this website and other forums, I decided to do a deep dive into this topic by myself to find out if the majority of the world has been lied to about some of the effects of cholesterol.
Special Thanks To:
@Jonasㅤㅤ for providing information about cholesterol and giving me good foundational knowledge in this guide before heading into this topic and @veggiedietcell for providing the spark and idea to go and see what I can find on this theory.
What the World Has Been Told
There are many myths being spread and taken as facts about cholesterol and of course the big one in this thread is that high cholesterol is bad for you but over the course of this thread many more myths will be debunked and questions will be answered (this is a very complicated reading and subject, so if you have any questions feel free to ask).
"Every Type of Cholesterol is the Same"
As hinted in the prologue, cholesterol comes from two things. Food (dietary cholesterol) and our own body (blood cholesterol that comes from the liver). But there are 3 types of Cholesterol (technically) including low-density lipoprotein (LDL) and high-density lipoprotein (HDL) which are the two 'types' of cholesterol. The other (technical) is Triglyceride which isn't cholesterol but it is a lipid or fat that is measured in a cholesterol test. I decided to include it here despite that because it looks awkward just throwing in a random part about Triglyceride.
1. Low-density Lipoprotein (LDL): LDL is considered the 'bad' type of cholesterol and can help contribute to plaque build-up in the human body's arteries. However there is more to this than what meets the eye.
2. High-density Lipoprotein (HDL): HDL is considered the 'good' type of cholesterol because it helps the body get rid of extra cholesterol.
3. Triglyceride: Fats that are found in your blood and are the most common type of fat in the human body. These fats are created from excess calories in food and are used as stored energy in the body. Everyone has some but too much of it or too little of it will have a negative impact on the body.
The Truth About Cholesterol and It's Effects on the Body
Remember what I just said about how cholesterol has multiple types. Throw that all out the window. Of course there are differences between cholesterol from animals and humans. That part is still true. But I'm talking about the cholesterol in humans. The thing is that it's true that there is only one type of cholesterol. The truth is that LDL, HDL, and the other types aren't even cholesterol. They are all lipids in the shapes of spheres that transport triglyceride and cholesterol throughout the body. The difference between them is that they transport different percentages of cholesterol and the triglycerides that are contained within them to different places and reasons. Just look at these images for an example.
The second image may lead you to another question regarding how there is only one type of cholesterol. "If HDL cleans up the LDL then how exactly is the cholesterol within them the same. Well, going back to the first image, you may notice that the LDL has significantly less triglycerides and around the same amount of cholesterol within them. You see, the LDL is not guaranteed to cause plaque, especially if kept to larger size so the cholesterol isn't as dense and compact. However, smaller LDL particles will be able to get through the walls of the human body's arteries easier because of their size. If the LDL is more dense and compact, then excess cholesterol may pushed out and cause plaque build up (Atherosclerosis).
How You Can Make 'Bad Cholesterol' LDL Good for You
As mentioned earlier in this thread, LDL contains triglycerides and cholesterol. LDL transports them to the tissues within the human body. Cholesterol is an essential building block that help keeps the body healthy. Cholesterol is the supplier of many hormones within our body (not all of them) including the one that we all love and know, testosterone. The only way that LDL is bad for you is when you have diabetes or you are just generally unhealthy and unfit metabolically. Opposite of that, and LDL will become less of an issue, even with diabetes. No it will not directly get rid of diabetes but it will help prevent and manage it.
The Real Culprit
I've seen online in multiple spaces that cholesterol is the reason for why people are obese, why they have heart issues, etc. when in reality, it's healthy for the heart and bodily functions, especially during adolescence. The real culprit that causes all of this is the triglycerides. They are the reason for why people get obese and have heart issues. You see, triglycerides lead to obesity because they are the stored energy. The fat that everyone has. They come from carbohydrates (sugar) which are over consumed across the world, leading to the skyrocket in obesity and deaths from heart failure in the 20th century. When the triglycerides climb in number, that generally means that HDL is declining, which is the very thing that stops high LDL. You must remember though that triglycerides do not only transport through lipoproteins. They also are transported through chylomicrons which come from the small intestine and head into the blood stream as well. This means that LDL isn't the primary transport that gets triglyceride to the heart. Chylomicrons are the most triglyceride-rich transports in the human body, and the triglyceride does help contribute to Atherosclerosis.
Conclusion (TLDR):
After reading this thread you may think that starting a complete carnivore diet while being active and working out may be the best idea. But I want you to know and remember that there are other issues relating to going full carnivore diet. I'm not saying don't eat meat but don't go pure carnivore. Make sure you add saturated fats and eat your fruits and vegetables (as much as you may hate it).
Thank you for reading.
Sources:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases...arly.,or fructose, can increase triglycerides.
https://www.britannica.com/science/... hormones consume a,cortex, and by the gonads.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/chylomicron
https://www.cdc.gov/cholesterol/abo...your body has too,as heart disease and stroke.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/hear...carbohydrates,also lead to high triglycerides.
THIS THREAD IS MADE OF COMPILED RESEARCH, DATA, AND SELF-MADE CONCLUSIONS FROM SUCH INFORMATION, AND IS NOT MEANT TO BE TAKEN AS MEDICAL ADVICE. I AM NOT A PROFESSIONAL.
Prologue
Over the course of my life I've always been afraid of consuming too much cholesterol due to the common information we see online about the dangerous effects it can have if over consumed/produced. Of course too much of anything is bad but I've heard that the supposed fact of having high cholesterol being bad is a complete myth. I was skeptical, and instead of just trusting users on this website and other forums, I decided to do a deep dive into this topic by myself to find out if the majority of the world has been lied to about some of the effects of cholesterol.
Special Thanks To:
@Jonasㅤㅤ for providing information about cholesterol and giving me good foundational knowledge in this guide before heading into this topic and @veggiedietcell for providing the spark and idea to go and see what I can find on this theory.
What the World Has Been Told
There are many myths being spread and taken as facts about cholesterol and of course the big one in this thread is that high cholesterol is bad for you but over the course of this thread many more myths will be debunked and questions will be answered (this is a very complicated reading and subject, so if you have any questions feel free to ask).
"Every Type of Cholesterol is the Same"
As hinted in the prologue, cholesterol comes from two things. Food (dietary cholesterol) and our own body (blood cholesterol that comes from the liver). But there are 3 types of Cholesterol (technically) including low-density lipoprotein (LDL) and high-density lipoprotein (HDL) which are the two 'types' of cholesterol. The other (technical) is Triglyceride which isn't cholesterol but it is a lipid or fat that is measured in a cholesterol test. I decided to include it here despite that because it looks awkward just throwing in a random part about Triglyceride.
1. Low-density Lipoprotein (LDL): LDL is considered the 'bad' type of cholesterol and can help contribute to plaque build-up in the human body's arteries. However there is more to this than what meets the eye.
2. High-density Lipoprotein (HDL): HDL is considered the 'good' type of cholesterol because it helps the body get rid of extra cholesterol.
3. Triglyceride: Fats that are found in your blood and are the most common type of fat in the human body. These fats are created from excess calories in food and are used as stored energy in the body. Everyone has some but too much of it or too little of it will have a negative impact on the body.
The Truth About Cholesterol and It's Effects on the Body
Remember what I just said about how cholesterol has multiple types. Throw that all out the window. Of course there are differences between cholesterol from animals and humans. That part is still true. But I'm talking about the cholesterol in humans. The thing is that it's true that there is only one type of cholesterol. The truth is that LDL, HDL, and the other types aren't even cholesterol. They are all lipids in the shapes of spheres that transport triglyceride and cholesterol throughout the body. The difference between them is that they transport different percentages of cholesterol and the triglycerides that are contained within them to different places and reasons. Just look at these images for an example.
The second image may lead you to another question regarding how there is only one type of cholesterol. "If HDL cleans up the LDL then how exactly is the cholesterol within them the same. Well, going back to the first image, you may notice that the LDL has significantly less triglycerides and around the same amount of cholesterol within them. You see, the LDL is not guaranteed to cause plaque, especially if kept to larger size so the cholesterol isn't as dense and compact. However, smaller LDL particles will be able to get through the walls of the human body's arteries easier because of their size. If the LDL is more dense and compact, then excess cholesterol may pushed out and cause plaque build up (Atherosclerosis).
How You Can Make 'Bad Cholesterol' LDL Good for You
As mentioned earlier in this thread, LDL contains triglycerides and cholesterol. LDL transports them to the tissues within the human body. Cholesterol is an essential building block that help keeps the body healthy. Cholesterol is the supplier of many hormones within our body (not all of them) including the one that we all love and know, testosterone. The only way that LDL is bad for you is when you have diabetes or you are just generally unhealthy and unfit metabolically. Opposite of that, and LDL will become less of an issue, even with diabetes. No it will not directly get rid of diabetes but it will help prevent and manage it.
The Real Culprit
I've seen online in multiple spaces that cholesterol is the reason for why people are obese, why they have heart issues, etc. when in reality, it's healthy for the heart and bodily functions, especially during adolescence. The real culprit that causes all of this is the triglycerides. They are the reason for why people get obese and have heart issues. You see, triglycerides lead to obesity because they are the stored energy. The fat that everyone has. They come from carbohydrates (sugar) which are over consumed across the world, leading to the skyrocket in obesity and deaths from heart failure in the 20th century. When the triglycerides climb in number, that generally means that HDL is declining, which is the very thing that stops high LDL. You must remember though that triglycerides do not only transport through lipoproteins. They also are transported through chylomicrons which come from the small intestine and head into the blood stream as well. This means that LDL isn't the primary transport that gets triglyceride to the heart. Chylomicrons are the most triglyceride-rich transports in the human body, and the triglyceride does help contribute to Atherosclerosis.
Conclusion (TLDR):
After reading this thread you may think that starting a complete carnivore diet while being active and working out may be the best idea. But I want you to know and remember that there are other issues relating to going full carnivore diet. I'm not saying don't eat meat but don't go pure carnivore. Make sure you add saturated fats and eat your fruits and vegetables (as much as you may hate it).
Thank you for reading.
Sources:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases...arly.,or fructose, can increase triglycerides.
https://www.britannica.com/science/... hormones consume a,cortex, and by the gonads.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/chylomicron
https://www.cdc.gov/cholesterol/abo...your body has too,as heart disease and stroke.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/hear...carbohydrates,also lead to high triglycerides.
