CHOOSING A COLLEGE DEGREE: Entrepreneurship, Employment, and Education

[Zeekie]

~Choosing a College Degree~​

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Introduction

Success in your professional life boils down to a fundamental question: do you have an entrepreneurial mindset, or are you better suited for a traditional employment path? Be honest with yourself. While "escaping the 9-5" and achieving rapid wealth through entrepreneurship sounds good and is heavily marketed, the reality for most people is different. Many grifters trying to sell you courses and e-books capitalize on this fantasy, but true entrepreneurial success is not as easy as a lot of dudes (mostly kids tbh) seem to think. The sad reality is that most people are NOT made for that.​

This guide is mostly focused on picking the right degree for your goals and qualities and what degrees are you better off avoiding, but I also touch on the very damaging idea of not getting a degree at all, IF DONE FOR THE WRONG REASONS. If you disagree with anything I say regarding going to college or degree choices, that's completely fine, you can curse me all you want and call me a cuck in the replies, but please attempt to read this thread through the end and with a rational viewpoint.

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Spoiler: The Reality of Entrepreneurship vs. Employment

The common narratives around avoiding college, the "9-5," and "escaping the matrix" are built on individual success stories of self-made millionaires without traditional degrees that exploit people falling victim to survivorship bias.​

Statistically, individuals with college degrees tend to earn significantly more, have lower unemployment rates, and are more likely to become millionaires. For example, a bachelor’s degree increases median earnings by approximately 68% compared to a high school diploma. Unemployment rates also decline with education: those without a diploma face a 5.5% rate, high school graduates 4.0%, bachelor’s degree holders 2.2%, and PhD holders just 1.1%.

When it comes to wealth, around 80% of self-made millionaires have a college degree, not including cases like Mark Zuckerberg or Bill Gates, who dropped out only after their ventures had already taken off.

I'm not saying don't aim to become a business owner, but don't give up the best asset you have (if it suits you) in the current market for job and networking opportunities. If you're smart, you're thinking about what gets you the best chances of making it, and not gambling your future away on the possibility of becoming rich through saturated TikTok markets only if everything goes like you expect it does (which it won't, probably).
Having a good chance of success as an entrepreneur requires inherent traits and a certain tolerance for risk. Here are good indicators:

• You actively identify unmet needs: Instead of just complaining about problems, you're constantly noticing gaps, inefficiencies or ways things could be done better.
• You have a history of initiating projects or ventures independently: Not just dreaming about, but actually doing it. Have you ever started a club, organized an event, built something from scratch, or tried to sell something, purely out of your own initiative?
• You are driven by the creation of tangible value, not just income: I won't lie to you, PROFIT IS THE GOAL, but the primary motivator is seeing your ideas come to life and provide something useful to others. You get satisfaction from building or developing something that solves a real problem, not just gaining money.
• You search for knowledge and develop skills relevant to your ideas: If you have an idea, you immediately start learning about the industry, the technology, the marketing, or whatever is necessary to bring it to fruition.
• You have an understanding of resource allocation and finances: You understand the necessity of managing time, money, and effort effectively. (This is where a lot of you fail, thankfully it can be developed).
• You have the ability to persuade and influence others: Entrepreneurship requires selling and rhetoric, to sell, to get investor capital or make a team adopt an idea. You must naturally possess or be actively developing the ability to articulate your visions.

If you don't have these traits, or if your interest in "business" is superficial without understanding the immense dedication and operational difficulties involved, reconsider. Most startups fail for that reason, 20% of them fail in the first year, 30% fail in 3 years, 50% don't survive the fifth year, and 70% don't make it past the tenth. Dedicating your time and resources to a venture you're not truly suited for can be a significant issue and limit the opportunities you could've gotten. For most, a stable path as a traditional employee is most often ideal.

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Spoiler: A Small Reality Check

Even if you're serious about becoming an entrepreneur and have the right skill set, you’ll likely still need to enter the job market first. Unless your business becomes profitable from day one (which is almost impossible), you’ll need a paycheck to survive. The 9-to-5 is not a curse, it’s a stepping stone. Sometimes it's the only stone you’ll step on, and that’s okay. It’s just one of many paths.

And just to further pop the fantasy bubble: the vast majority of Fortune 500 CEOs and successful founders built their careers inside corporate structures before launching their own ventures.

• The average Fortune 500 CEO is 57 years old.
• The average age at which entrepreneurs are most likely to succeed is 45.

That whole idea of a teenager becoming a billionaire through dropshipping after watching a TikTok IS FICTION. Real entrepreneurial success comes with time, maturity, connections, and industry knowledge all of which are developed over years of work and learning.

Please be realistic. You are not the main character, if you're 14 to 20, you have so many years ahead of you to build wealth. Odds are you won’t become rich now, and those odds drop even further if you make retarded decisions that limit your long-term potential.

"Defending wageslaving, what a cuck!" Well boohoo, that's the reality of capitalism, which given the odds you are not likely to escape. So better make peace with it now. Yes, try your best to become as successful as you can, but knowing the rules of the game before you step into it is useful if you don't wanna become dillisiouned with your life later on.

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Choosing A Degree

A well-chosen degree provides a strong foundation, opens doors to networks, and gives you skills applicable to both employment and future entrepreneurial paths, but you have to choose one based on your base interests and skills.

If you have an entrepreneurial mindset:
I'm going to tell you right now, if you have entrepreneurial aspirations, get into a tech or engineering degree. No, they will not be replaced by AI any time soon, they're the future of building modern products, and out of all the startup routes, this is the easiest in terms of making products, distributing them, and raising capital. If you're interested in any of these degrees but are unsure which one to pick, statistically speaking, most successful CEOs are electrical engineers.

Degree	Value	Competitiveness	Time/IQ Investment	Best Suited For
Computer Science (CS)	½	High	High (Heavy math + logic)	AI-oriented startups, software developers.
Software Engineering		Moderate	Moderate (I'm studying this, it's not that hard)	Software developers.
Electrical Engineering		Very High	Very High (Heavy math/physics)	Hardware entrepreneurs.
Mechanical Engineering	½	High	High (Heavy math + logic)	Robotics/product designers.
Industrial Engineering		Moderate	Moderate (No abstract math, mostly logic-based)	Any kind of industrial production business.

If you don't have an entrepreneurial mindset:
Here your best bet are STEM degrees or the more common options, these are incredibly valuable and leading to high-paying, stable careers, and have more directly employment option, although obviously, they don't directly enable the creation of new products or businesses from the ground up as easily.

Degree	Value	Competitiveness	Time/IQ Investment	Career Outcomes
Medicine	½	Extremely High	Extremely High (Years + intelligence)	Healthcare: doctors, surgeons, specialists.
Chemical Engineering		High	Very High (Chemistry + math)	Energy, pharma, manufacturing, petrochemical industries.
Other tech		Moderate-High	Moderate	IT support, data analyst, etc.
Civil Engineering		Moderate	High (Structural + fieldwork)	Public infrastructure, construction firms, government.
Law	½	Very High (oversaturated)	High (Logic & memorization)	Legal practice, policy, compliance, corporate law.
Biomedical Engineering		High	High (Interdisciplinary + bio/tech)	Medical devices, hospitals, R&D in healthcare.
Sciences	½	Low to Moderate	Very High (Research-heavy)	Academia, lab research, etc.

There are also other options I didn't include, like finance, business administration, politics, etc., I decided to keep them off the list because I don't have enough knowledge about them to speak critically, and while a lot of rich people do study these, majority of them aren't self-made and just went to college to inherit daddy's position and for the networking.

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When A Degree Isn't Worth It

Ideally, getting one of the degrees listed above will give you the best chances in terms of financial stability, professional connections, and the foundational skills for entrepreneurship later in life. However, of course, getting a degree is not the only path if you're not interested in any of the options I listed above, but you have to understand that you're taking a huge compromise by not getting a degree. Some of the alternative options include:

• Trade Schools and Vocational Training: Mastering a skilled trade (plumbing, electrical work, welding, automotive repair, culinary) can lead to immediate employment and even entrepreneurial opportunities by starting your own service-based business. These paths often require less upfront investment and offer quicker entry into the workforce, but their potential of scalability are much worse and frankly it isn't as glamorous.
• Certifications and Online Learning: For specialized skills that don't require a full degree, certifications (project management, specific software proficiencies, cybersecurity, digital marketing) can be super valuable. Coursera and edX offer high-quality courses which could be very valuable. Again, here's there's even less scalability.

If you have interests in any other college degree and it isn't included in the list, or is minimally related to any of the options I mention, it's probably a bad choice, it is not a smart idea to get into significant debt for a degree that doesn't leave you with strong career prospects or provides skills you can learn elsewhere, for example you can learn effectively and affordably through online resources, certifications, or trade schools, those options are smarter than a shitty degree.

But honestly if I were you and I wanted the best chances, unless I had a crazy business idea that I can start without a degree (and I'm sure will have success, unlikely) or I was a very talented artists, I'd frankly just suck it up and pick something with good career outcomes even if I don't like the career.

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(It is also important to note that despite framing information throughout the thread as a universal truth, I don't think you should trust me 100%, nobody knows where you'll find success, how the market will evolve or if you're really cutout to be a successful entrepeneur, take this information as just one source, think critically, do your own research and make educated guesses.)

Shoutout to @pajjeetslayer and @Sujumh for the thread idea. Hope y'all found it useful.

 

[Epochs]

~Choosing a College Degree~​

​

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Introduction

Success in your professional life boils down to a fundamental question: do you have an entrepreneurial mindset, or are you better suited for a traditional employment path? Be honest with yourself. While "escaping the 9-5" and achieving rapid wealth through entrepreneurship sounds good and is heavily marketed, the reality for most people is different. Many grifters trying to sell you courses and e-books capitalize on this fantasy, but true entrepreneurial success is not as easy as a lot of dudes (mostly kids tbh) seem to think. The sad reality is that most people are NOT made for that.​

This guide is mostly focused on picking the right degree for your goals and qualities and what degrees are you better off avoiding, but I also touch on the very damaging idea of not getting a degree at all, IF DONE FOR THE WRONG REASONS. If you disagree with anything I say regarding going to college or degree choices, that's completely fine, you can curse me all you want and call me a cuck in the replies, but please attempt to read this thread through a rational and grounded viewpoint.

---

Spoiler: The Reality of Entrepreneurship vs. Employment

The common narratives around avoiding college, the "9-5," and "escaping the matrix" are built on individual success stories of self-made millionaires exist without traditional degrees and people falling victim to survivorship bias.​

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Statistically, individuals with college degrees tend to earn significantly more, have lower unemployment rates, and are more likely to become millionaires. For example, a bachelor’s degree increases median earnings by approximately 68% compared to a high school diploma. Unemployment rates also decline with education: those without a diploma face a 5.5% rate, high school graduates 4.0%, bachelor’s degree holders 2.2%, and PhD holders just 1.1%.

When it comes to wealth, around 80% of self-made millionaires have a college degree, not including cases like Mark Zuckerberg or Bill Gates, who dropped out only after their ventures had already taken off.

I'm not saying don't aim to become a business owner, but don't give up the best asset you have (if it suits you) in the current market for job and networking opportunities. If you're smart, you're thinking about what gets you the best chances of making it, and not gambling your future away on the possibility of becoming rich through saturated TikTok markets only if everything goes like you expect it does (which it won't, probably).
Having a good chance of success as an entrepreneur requires inherent traits and a certain tolerance for risk. Here are good indicators:

• You actively identify unmet needs: Instead of just complaining about problems, you're constantly noticing gaps, inefficiencies or ways things could be done better.
• You have a history of initiating projects or ventures independently: Not just dreaming about, but actually doing it. Have you ever started a club, organized an event, built something from scratch, or tried to sell something, purely out of your own initiative?
• You are driven by the creation of tangible value, not just income: I won't lie to you, PROFIT IS THE GOAL, but the primary motivator is seeing your ideas come to life and provide something useful to others. You get satisfaction from building or developing something that solves a real problem, not just gaining money.
• You search for knowledge and develop skills relevant to your ideas: If you have an idea, you immediately start learning about the industry, the technology, the marketing, or whatever is necessary to bring it to fruition.
• You have an understanding of resource allocation and finances: You understand the necessity of managing time, money, and effort effectively. (This is where a lot of you fail, thankfully it can be developed).
• You have the ability to persuade and influence others: Entrepreneurship requires selling and rhetoric, to sell, to get investor capital or make a team adopt an idea. You must naturally possess or be actively developing the ability to articulate your visions.

If you don't have these traits, or if your interest in "business" is superficial without understanding the immense dedication and operational difficulties involved, reconsider. Most startups fail for that reason, 20% of them fail in the first year, 30% fail in 3 years, 50% don't survive the fifth year, and 70% don't make it past the tenth. Dedicating your time and resources to a venture you're not truly suited for can be a significant issue and limit the opportunities you could've gotten. For most, a stable path as a traditional employee is most often ideal.

---

Spoiler: A Small Reality Check

Even if you're serious about becoming an entrepreneur and have the right skill set, you’ll likely still need to enter the job market first. Unless your business becomes profitable from day one (which is almost impossible), you’ll need a paycheck to survive. The 9-to-5 is not a curse, it’s a stepping stone. Sometimes it's the only stone you’ll step on, and that’s okay. It’s just one of many paths.

And just to further pop the fantasy bubble: the vast majority of Fortune 500 CEOs and successful founders built their careers inside corporate structures before launching their own ventures.

• The average Fortune 500 CEO is 57 years old.
• The average age at which entrepreneurs are most likely to succeed is 45.

That whole idea of a teenager becoming a billionaire through dropshipping after watching a TikTok IS FICTION. Real entrepreneurial success comes with time, maturity, connections, and industry knowledge all of which are developed over years of work and learning.

Please be realistic. You are not the main character, if you're 14 to 20, you have so many years ahead of you to build wealth. Odds are you won’t become rich now, and those odds drop even further if you make retarded decisions that limit your long-term potential.

"Defending wageslaving, what a cuck!" Well boohoo, that's the reality of capitalism, which given the odds you are not likely to escape. So better make peace with it now. Yes, try your best to become as successful as you can, but knowing the rules of the game before you step into it is useful if you don't wanna become dillisiouned with your life later on.

---

Choosing A Degree

A well-chosen degree provides a strong foundation, opens doors to networks, and gives you skills applicable to both employment and future entrepreneurial paths, but you have to choose one based on your base interests and skills.

If you have an entrepreneurial mindset:
I'm going to tell you right now, if you have entrepreneurial aspirations, get into a tech or engineering degree. No, they will not be replaced by AI any time soon, they're the future of building modern products, and out of all the startup routes, this is the easiest in terms of making products, distributing them, and raising capital. If you're interested in any of these degrees but are unsure which one to pick, statistically speaking, most successful CEOs are electrical engineers.

Degree	Value	Competitiveness	Time/IQ Investment	Best Suited For
Computer Science (CS)	½	High	High (Heavy math + logic)	AI-oriented startups, software developers.
Software Engineering		Moderate	Moderate (I'm studying this, it's not that hard)	Software developers.
Electrical Engineering		Very High	Very High (Heavy math/physics)	Hardware entrepreneurs.
Mechanical Engineering	½	High	High (Heavy math + logic)	Robotics/product designers.
Industrial Engineering		Moderate	Moderate (No abstract math, mostly logic-based)	Any kind of industrial production business.

If you don't have an entrepreneurial mindset:
Here your best bet are STEM degrees or the more common options, these are incredibly valuable and leading to high-paying, stable careers, and have more directly employment option, although obviously, they don't directly enable the creation of new products or businesses from the ground up as easily.

Degree	Value	Competitiveness	Time/IQ Investment	Career Outcomes
Medicine	½	Extremely High	Extremely High (Years + intelligence)	Healthcare: doctors, surgeons, specialists.
Chemical Engineering		High	Very High (Chemistry + math)	Energy, pharma, manufacturing, petrochemical industries.
IT/Cybersecurity/others		Moderate-High	Moderate	IT support, data analyst, etc.
Civil Engineering		Moderate	High (Structural + fieldwork)	Public infrastructure, construction firms, government.
Law	½	Very High (oversaturated)	High (Logic & memorization)	Legal practice, policy, compliance, corporate law.
Biomedical Engineering		High	High (Interdisciplinary + bio/tech)	Medical devices, hospitals, R&D in healthcare.
Sciences	½	Low to Moderate	Very High (Research-heavy)	Academia, lab research, etc.

There are also other options I didn't include, like finance, business administration, politics, etc., I decided to keep them off the list because I don't have enough knowledge about them to speak critically, and while a lot of rich people do study these, majority of them aren't self-made and just went to college to inherit daddy's position and for the networking.

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When A Degree Isn't Worth It

Ideally, getting one of the degrees listed above will give you the best chances in terms of financial stability, professional connections, and the foundational skills for entrepreneurship later in life. However, of course, getting a degree is not the only path if you're not interested in any of the options I listed above, but you have to understand that you're taking a huge compromise by not getting a degree. Some of the alternative options include:

• Trade Schools and Vocational Training: Mastering a skilled trade (plumbing, electrical work, welding, automotive repair, culinary) can lead to immediate employment and even entrepreneurial opportunities by starting your own service-based business. These paths often require less upfront investment and offer quicker entry into the workforce, but their potential of scalability are much worse and frankly it isn't as glamorous.
• Certifications and Online Learning: For specialized skills that don't require a full degree, certifications (project management, specific software proficiencies, cybersecurity, digital marketing) can be super valuable. Coursera and edX offer high-quality courses which could be very valuable. Again, here's there's even less scalability.

If you have interests in any other college degree and it included in the list, or minimally related to any of the options I mention, it's probably a bad choice, it is not a smart idea to get into significant debt for a degree that doesn't leave you with strong career prospects or provides skills you can learn elsewhere, for example you can learn effectively and affordably through online resources, certifications, or trade schools, those options are smarter than a shitty degree.

But honestly if I were you and I wanted the best chances, unless I had a crazy business idea that I can start without a degree (and I'm sure will have success, unlikely) or I was a very talented artists, I'd frankly just suck it up and pick something with good career outcomes even if I don't like the career.

---

(It is also important to note that despite framing information throughout the thread as a universal truth, I don't think you should trust me 100%, nobody knows where you'll find success, how the market will evolve or if you're really cutout to be a successful entrepeneur, take this information as just one source, think critically, do your own research and make educated guesses.)

Shoutout to @pajjeetslayer and @Sujumh for the thread idea. Hope y'all found it useful.

College is the worst place as an incel.Prepare

 

[valentine]

too hard id rather LOOKSMAX instead tbh

 

[flatcheck213]

too hard id rather LOOKSMAX instead tbh

 

[ascension]

too hard id rather LOOKSMAX instead tbh

No looksmaxxing for your raccoon ass haircut and lengthy philtrum (longer than M25 motorway)

 

[pajjeetslayer]

Can’t wait to read mirin

 

[MoggsWithBoness]

Just avoid getting into unbearable debt and dont go for BS degrees like psychology or gender studies nonsense, youll be good imo

 

[valentine]

No looksmaxxing for your raccoon ass haircut and lengthy philtrum (longer than M25 motorway)

well guess what ill be getting a lip lift surgery very soon and my hair is awesome, theres a reason everyone asks me for a hair tutorial. keep hating retard i really dont give a shit

 

[Snoofy]

It’s over economics and Buisness and finance wasn’t even mentioned

 

[thecaste]

law mogs all these oofy doofy tech degrees

 

[flatcheck213]

law mogs all these oofy doofy tech degrees

Okay Francordan Lacharett

 

[thecaste]

Okay Francordan Lacharett

bro what

 

[ascension]

well guess what ill be getting a lip lift surgery very soon and my hair is awesome, theres a reason everyone asks me for a hair tutorial. keep hating retard i really dont give a shit

How about you lift those lips up to my cock and do what you were born to do eh

Also who tf is asking this dude for a hair tutorial jfl. Probably being sarcastic and laughing behind his back @Jonasㅤㅤ⠀

 

[flatcheck213]

bro what

 

[Zeekie]

It’s over economics and Buisness and finance wasn’t even mentioned

Honestly would've loved to include them, but I really don't like giving bullshit advice that I can't backup

 

[thecaste]

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ahh now i get it

i actually googled the name like an ape and got no results

 

[valentine]

How about you lift those lips up to my cock and do what you were born to do eh

Also who tf is asking this dude for a hair tutorial jfl. Probably being sarcastic and laughing behind his back @Jonasㅤㅤ⠀

girls compiment me on my hair a lot, you can tag that retard all you want whats he gonna do lol

 

[Zeekie]

law mogs all these oofy doofy tech degrees

I mean possibly, it depends, but I personally think it is easier to get ultrarich through tech that it is through law. I mean with tech there are just so many options, and it's a growing, evolving market. While law is... stable, I guess? Your only option really is starting your own firm, and that's VERY hard.

But don't get me wrong, it's still a strong pick depending on what you want.

 

[Swarthy Knight]

Where bizzness/marketing degrees at

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

you can tag that retard all you want whats he gonna do lol

The better question is, what are YOU doing in my Funko Pop collection?

@ascension @chadbeingmade @imontheloose @Zagro @truthhurts

 

[chrishell]

Comp Sci is over

 

[thecaste]

I mean possibly, it depends, but I personally think it is easier to get ultrarich through tech that it is through law. I mean with tech there are just so many options, and it's a growing, evolving market. While law is... stable, I guess? Your only option really is starting your own firm, and that's VERY hard.

But don't get me wrong, it's still a strong pick depending on what you want.

absolutely agree.
corporate law pays very well tho; you don't need to start your own firm, you just need good grades.
in terms of social status law mogs the other ones to oblivion, every time I visit the neighbouring tech-uni I wanna rope asap, the people there have zero social skills and no fashion sense, it's like walking into an incel asylum.

 

[Zeekie]

absolutely agree.
corporate law pays very well tho; you don't need to start your own firm, you just need good grades.
in terms of social status law mogs the other ones to oblivion, every time I visit the neighbouring tech-uni I wanna rope asap, the people there have zero social skills and no fashion sense, it's like walking into an incel asylum.

Honestly I'll give you that In terms of pure status law is the best pick, and yeah it also does pay very well

 

[valentine]

The better question is, what are YOU doing in my Funko Pop collection?
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@ascension @chadbeingmade @imontheloose @Zagro @truthhurts

my face is already all over my social media pages btw, i dont know why you think this is some sort of gotcha moment jfl
also holy dickriding with the way you tag half the forum under your posts lol thats lame as fuck

 

[pajjeetslayer]

absolutely agree.
corporate law pays very well tho; you don't need to start your own firm, you just need good grades.
in terms of social status law mogs the other ones to oblivion, every time I visit the neighbouring tech-uni I wanna rope asap, the people there have zero social skills and no fashion sense, it's like walking into an incel asylum.

Exactly why I want to do corporate law even if it’s a competitive market

 

[imontheloose]

The better question is, what are YOU doing in my Funko Pop collection?
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@ascension @chadbeingmade @imontheloose @Zagro @truthhurts

OP is a fucking stupid piece of shit too. This must be from GPT. CS being very valuable? You're having me on. Requiring high IQ? My flatmates have two exams and they get taught long division in their course.

 

[Zeekie]

Where bizzness/marketing degrees at

Frankly, I have mixed opinions on business. Marketing I believe you shouldn't bother getting a degree, I'm pretty sure it isn't mandatory for most entry-level positions, you can just get a certification or do a couple courses.

When it comes to business, I personally don't think a BBA is a good pick at all, but an MBA can be situationally very useful when paired with a good bachelor's

 

[thecaste]

Exactly why I want to do corporate law even if it’s a competitive market

are you attending uni rn?

 

[pajjeetslayer]

are you attending uni rn?

Nah not even close I got another couple years of IB left

 

[Zeekie]

OP is a fucking stupid piece of shit too. This must be from GPT. CS being very valuable? You're having me on. Requiring high IQ? My flatmates have two exams and they get taught long division in their course.

Yes, computer science is very valuable, can you elaborate on why it isn't lol? Yes, a lot of niggas are doing CS, but that isn't an issue onto itself, people aren't failing at CS because it is a bad degree, not at all, I'd argue it will become one of the most useful degrees in the coming years, people are failing because they aren't cut for CS.

Also, yeah, the curriculum for computer science is fairly complex. Go ahead and study algorithms, discrete math and advanced calculus to make a computer add 1+1 0.1 milliseconds faster. It's not a simple degree, it's a literal science.

 

[thecaste]

Nah not even close I got another couple years of IB left

oh okay, well good luck on your journey nontheless

 

[pajjeetslayer]

oh okay, well good luck on your journey nontheless

Why did u ask lol got me curios now

 

[thecaste]

Why did u ask lol got me curios now

just wanted to know brotha
i'm in law school so it's always nice to chat with likeminded people

 

[pajjeetslayer]

Yes, computer science is very valuable, can you elaborate on why it isn't lol? Yes, a lot of niggas are doing CS, but that isn't an issue onto itself, people aren't failing at CS because it is a bad degree, not at all, I'd argue it will become one of the most useful degrees in the coming years, people are failing because they aren't cut for CS.

Also, yeah, the curriculum for computer science is fairly complex. Go ahead and study algorithms, discrete math and advanced calculus to make a computer add 1+1 0.1 milliseconds faster. It's not a simple degree, it's a literal science.

I love how in like 1-2 minutes u can like write 2 paragraphs with good grammar do u paste ur stuff into gpt?

 

[pajjeetslayer]

just wanted to know brotha
i'm in law school so it's always nice to chat with likeminded people

Shit mirin Whats it like

 

[imontheloose]

Yes, computer science is very valuable, can you elaborate on why it isn't lol? Yes, a lot of niggas are doing CS, but that isn't an issue onto itself, people aren't failing at CS because it is a bad degree, not at all, I'd argue it will become one of the most useful degrees in the coming years, people are failing because they aren't cut for CS.

Also, yeah, the curriculum for computer science is fairly complex. Go ahead and study algorithms, discrete math and advanced calculus to make a computer add 1+1, 0.1 milliseconds faster. It's a struggle.

I do electrical engineering. I had 3/6 flatmates who took computer science. It isn't valuable. It's too saturated. You will be absolutely fucked unless you're very gifted at programming and go to a top university. Even then, you will find awful difficulty being employed without nepo.

In engineering degrees, we do maths that CS students have no idea about. We learn programming very intricately in electrical engineering too. My computer science flatmates unanimously noted that EE students were generally better programmers. None of the CS students agree with you, they all regret taking it. And they all say it's a piece of piss.

Studying long division in university is laughable. This in Oxford for clarity. I know everything you just spoke about. It is tough, but they don't do anything intricate until their last year and they essentially do nothing most the semesters and get a couple exams on basic rubbish.

 

[chadbeingmade]

Do not do Engineering whatever you do. Fuck that. Dogshit degree.

 

[imontheloose]

Do not do Engineering whatever you do. Fuck that. Dogshit degree.

Fuck you.

 

[pajjeetslayer]

I do electrical engineering. I had 3/6 flatmates who took computer science. It isn't valuable. It's too saturated. You will be absolutely fucked unless you're very gifted at programming and go to a top university. Even then, you will find awful difficulty being employed without nepo.

In engineering degrees, we do maths that CS students have no idea about. We learn programming very intricately in electrical engineering too. My computer science flatmates unanimously noted that EE students were generally better programmers. None of the CS students agree with you, they all regret taking it. And they all say it's a piece of piss.

Studying long division in university is laughable. This in Oxford for clarity. I know everything you just spoke about. It is tough, but they don't do anything intricate until their last year and they essentially do nothing most the semesters and get a couple exams on basic rubbish.

Idk man long division pretty difficult u gotta subtract shit and like stuff

 

[chadbeingmade]

Fuck you.

 

[SoNotFunny]

bro thinks this is pre covid, all CS related engineering degrees ain't worth shit anymore. the majors are oversaturated and anyone can self teach themselves all the CS requirements. take me for example, CS degree from NYU, 3.7 GPA, still unemployed (graduated over a year ago). and this ain't just me complaining, 90% of all CS grads are unemployed and basically useless to society

 

[imontheloose]

Idk man long division pretty difficult u gotta subtract shit and like stuff

 

[pajjeetslayer]

bro thinks this is pre covid, all CS related engineering degrees ain't worth shit anymore. the majors are oversaturated and anyone can self teach themselves all the CS requirements. take me for example, CS degree from NYU, 3.7 GPA, still unemployed (graduated over a year ago). and this ain't just me complaining, 90% of all CS grads are unemployed and basically useless to society

Long division got ur ass

 

[Zeekie]

I do electrical engineering. I had 3/6 flatmates who took computer science. It isn't valuable. It's too saturated. You will be absolutely fucked unless you're very gifted at programming and go to a top university. Even then, you will find awful difficulty being employed without nepo.

In engineering degrees, we do maths that CS students have no idea about. We learn programming very intricately in electrical engineering too. My computer science flatmates unanimously noted that EE students were generally better programmers. None of the CS students agree with you, they all regret taking it. And they all say it's a piece of piss.

Studying long division in university is laughable. This in Oxford for clarity. I know everything you just spoke about. It is tough, but they don't do anything intricate until their last year and they essentially do nothing most the semesters and get a couple exams on basic rubbish.

Honestly I respect someone that does a real engineering, I'm a software engineer and electrical was my second pick, but I decided I wasn't up for the challenge.

Personally I do think the curriculum is fairly challenging, not the stuff CS and SE share, that's honestly pretty easy, the main reason why I say CS is pretty valuable is because of AI, I entirely believe they will change the future of humanity in the coming years, and no one is better prepared to deal with AI than computer scientists

But I mean if you aren't joking with the long division comment and that EE code better than CS majors then that's pretty crazy

 

[imontheloose]

bro thinks this is pre covid, all CS related engineering degrees ain't worth shit anymore. the majors are oversaturated and anyone can self teach themselves all the CS requirements. take me for example, CS degree from NYU, 3.7 GPA, still unemployed (graduated over a year ago). and this ain't just me complaining, 90% of all CS grads are unemployed and basically useless to society

Precisely what I'm trying to tell OP. I had 3 flatmates just like you. Did you ever think about switching? Two of the three of my flatmates wanted to switch to an engineering degree instead.

 

[SoNotFunny]

Long division got ur ass

idek what that is, i just use calculator for that shit

 

[pajjeetslayer]

idek what that is, i just use calculator for that shit

 

[thecaste]

Shit mirin Whats it like

well, it's very fascinating but also really competitive and intense.
law just covers everything; i have philosophy of law, history of law, roman law, public law, private law, criminal law etc. etc.
if you study law, you will have an insane amount of knowledge that can help you in almost any occupational field. for example, you can get into politics and higher management very easily.

i can definitely recommend it but it most definitely is very hard and competitive. this fall, 40% of students dropped out...
i have exams coming up in a week, so wish me luck

 

[imontheloose]

Honestly I respect someone that does a real engineering, I'm a software engineer and electrical was my second pick, but I decided I wasn't up for the challenge.

Personally I do think the curriculum is fairly challenging, not the stuff CS and SE share, that's honestly pretty easy, the main reason why I say CS is pretty valuable is because of AI, I entirely believe they will change the future of humanity in the coming years, and no one is better prepared to deal with AI than computer scientists

But I mean if you aren't joking with the long division comment and that EE code better than CS majors then that's pretty crazy

We have made these so called AIs here at Oxford. They're very fallible. Pretty fun to use and see. But they're just token machines I'm sure you're aware of.

And no, I pinky promise you, I am not joking about the long division or the EE>CS coders. Honestly lol. It's pretty funny when you first get told it.

 

[SoNotFunny]

Precisely what I'm trying to tell OP. I had 3 flatmates just like you. Did you ever think about switching? Two of the three of my flatmates wanted to switch to an engineering degree instead.

I always hated it, CS was a major lifemin and looksmin. I never wanted to go to college in the first place, so I just chose the degree that would bring in the big bucks, and boy did I fuck up. Switching to engineering might've been the meta precovid, but now that field is oversaturated as well. Ik niggas who did engineering and now they're working minimum wage at start ups