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[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Yeah but it was mainly like white people spreading it let’s be real here. Think about i from my perspective im Indian with no religious beliefs my whole life why would I ever become christian. Might as well suck the white mans cock at that point.

I literally just said that… the only thing whites have claim over is spreading it even if they spread a retarded low IQ form of it they did. But that doesn’t give them claim over the religion just means they were the most successful evangelists and besides it went full circle because today whites are themed anti religious race and despise Christianity in all their countries.

The only wealthy white nation that can be argued to be Christian is America and EVEN THEN the bar is so fucking low for whites because of how irreligious they are that the lowest black Christian is probably as religious and a religious white man

 

[Deleted member 283623]

I literally just said that… the only thing whites have claim over is spreading it even if they spread a retarded low IQ form of it they did. But that doesn’t give them claim over the religion just means they were the most successful evangelists and besides it went full circle because today whites are themed anti religious race and despise Christianity in all their countries.

The only wealthy white nation that can be argued to be Christian is America and EVEN THEN the bar is so fucking low for whites because of how irreligious they are that the lowest black Christian is probably as religious and a religious white man

Honestly fuck cumskins I hope Europe is replaced by muslims.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Honestly fuck cumskins I hope Europe is replaced by muslims.

If your reason to become Christian is to placate a race of pink skinned barbarians then that’s very sad and probably why many chinks are Christian today I’m 100% certain it’s because they worship whites


Honestly the reason is because it’s true, everything is just true, I can go more in depth but essentelly to make sense of anything requires necessary preconditions to be the case, theism therfore exists but what kind of God, this is what Plato discovered, but who is that God? Well the only god that answered all these questions is the Christian God that’s why I’m Christian because it’s the only logical option.

Basically out of every belief including atheism Christianity (Orthodoxy) is the only one that provides an account for reality without falling into errors contradictions, holes and more.

If your Indian I advice you look into the Indian Christian’s of the Syrian Orthodox Church which has been around for 1.2k years yes that long before any pinkoid went to India I think even @Jason Voorhees stated his people diverged from these lot but ended up adopting the cumskins interpretations that’s why he’s now Methodist (prottie) but the true OGs still live in India as Oriental Orthodox Christian’s and they trace their church back before any European was Christian proving MY POINT.

So that’s a much more compelling argument than “MUH white cock” as to why on should be Christian

 

[Deleted member 145728]

They never question why christmas is a thing when no one knows when jesus was born, christians are somehow more retarded than inbred muslims

 

[tomacōck]

Western and Protestant Christianity*.

There’s a big difference between ancient (eastern) and western (new high medieval and renissance) Christianity

Ancient if Unitarian then is fine

 

[tomacōck]

True christianity is a white mans religion for the most part.

No
All Abrahamic religions are of middle Eastern lineage yet universal

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

They never question why christmas is a thing when no one knows when jesus was born, christians are somehow more retarded than inbred muslims

Not at all.

We base it off the annunciation which is in April (Luke 1) and then We estimated it 9 months later. That would be December (western Christian’s follow the standard Gregorian calander which the whole world uses today btw).

Now ofc the Julian calander is difference so it would had been May in actuality hence why eastern Christian’s celebrate it on the 7th of January (eastern Christian’s follow Julian calander) and but either way it’s based off the annunciation and then adding 9 months to that as it takes a woman 9 months to incubate a baby

You see if you idiots just fucking did a google search you’d have your fucking answers instead you lot choose to attack strawmans like morons @ltnbrownacnecel

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Ancient if Unitarian then is fine

Unitarianism is a recent invention. Nobody not even a single early heresy involved Unitarianism proving it to be false by default if nobody held to those beliefs in the early church even the enemies. Unitarianism is just for Muslims who don’t wanna call themselves Muslims

The closest we got to that would be Arianism & sabbelianism and even then they aren’t exactly the same thing as Unitarianism

Essentslly, Unitarianism is just a retarded modern cult birthed out of the freedoms given by the retarded Protestants which have 0 disciple and guidance and don’t even understand the book they read

 

[africel]

Christianity has better beliefs but I still think muslims follow their religion better are generally better people. This coming from an agnostic.

all copes

 

[tomacōck]

Unitarianism is a recent invention. Nobody not even a single early heresy involved Unitarianism proving it to be false by default if nobody held to those beliefs in the early church even the enemies. Unitarianism is just for Muslims who don’t wanna call themselves Muslims

The closest we got to that would be Arianism & sabbelianism and even then they aren’t exactly the same thing as Unitarianism

Essentslly, Unitarianism is just a retarded modern cult birthed out of the freedoms given by the retarded Protestants which have 0 disciple and guidance and don’t even understand the book they read

Your factological evidence is flawed

 

[Deleted member 145728]

Not at all.

We base it off the annunciation which is in April (Luke 1) and then We estimated it 9 months later. That would be December (western Christian’s follow the standard Gregorian calander which the whole world uses today btw).

Now ofc the Julian calander is difference so it would had been May in actuality hence why eastern Christian’s celebrate it on the 7th of January (eastern Christian’s follow Julian calander) and but either way it’s based off the annunciation and then adding 9 months to that as it takes a woman 9 months to incubate a baby

You see if you idiots just fucking did a google search you’d have your fucking answers instead you lot choose to attack strawmans like morons @ltnbrownacnecel

Catholic retard math doesn't matter, Jesus was unironically born on September 11, hence why they did 9/11

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Catholic retard math doesn't matter, Jesus was unironically born on September 11, hence why they did 9/11

I’m not Roman Catholic you brainlet I even said “western” which includes both protties and Roman Catholics

I’m eastern Christian you fucking know this why you strawmanning again you fucking Arab bastard

Jesus wasn’t born on September there’s 0 evidence of this nowhere is this stated or even sensible. The evidence is simple it’s early January Nothing more nothing less. At the earliest December.

9/11 was a satanist Islamic and American joint venture. Americas a satanist nation and Islams a satanist cult so yeah they collided to do crime no shock there

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Your factological evidence is flawed

And that’s your argument to just say “No you”

You have no argument no evidence no points jsut “Umm well I disagree because I just disagree”

Your a fucking joke

@ltnbrownacnecel I hope you take notes as to how I’m so easily able to dismantle anti Christian’s with 0 effort just by using literal facts. Many lie on my RELGION the when presented with facts they breakdown like these 2 idiots

 

[Deleted member 283623]

If your reason to become Christian is to placate a race of pink skinned barbarians then that’s very sad and probably why many chinks are Christian today I’m 100% certain it’s because they worship whites


Honestly the reason is because it’s true, everything is just true, I can go more in depth but essentelly to make sense of anything requires necessary preconditions to be the case, theism therfore exists but what kind of God, this is what Plato discovered, but who is that God? Well the only god that answered all these questions is the Christian God that’s why I’m Christian because it’s the only logical option.

Basically out of every belief including atheism Christianity (Orthodoxy) is the only one that provides an account for reality without falling into errors contradictions, holes and more.

If your Indian I advice you look into the Indian Christian’s of the Syrian Orthodox Church which has been around for 1.2k years yes that long before any pinkoid went to India I think even @Jason Voorhees stated his people diverged from these lot but ended up adopting the cumskins interpretations that’s why he’s now Methodist (prottie) but the true OGs still live in India as Oriental Orthodox Christian’s and they trace their church back before any European was Christian proving MY POINT.

So that’s a much more compelling argument than “MUH white cock” as to why on should be Christian

And that’s your argument to just say “No you”

You have no argument no evidence no points jsut “Umm well I disagree because I just disagree”

Your a fucking joke

@ltnbrownacnecel I hope you take notes as to how I’m so easily able to dismantle anti Christian’s with 0 effort just by using literal facts. Many lie on my RELGION the when presented with facts they breakdown like these 2 idiots

Thoughts on Alex o connor?

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Thoughts on Alex o connor?

Dumb GAYtheist whose a coward a won’t debate Jay dyer because he knows he’ll be crushed. He also is terrified of Muslims proving my point he punches down on Evanglicals, I don’t even think he goes for Roman Catholics much because they are more intellectual than protties and their idiotic cult

He’s extremely overrated and shit he relies on low IQs to debate but when confronted with an intellectual Philopher like Jay dyer he crumbles. Essentially Coward Oh Conner attacks Evangelicals because they are a easy target and extremely low IQ and their RELGION is as retarded as them so he goes for them but he won’t go for the ancient churches because he knows he’ll be crushed

 

[Deleted member 283623]

Dumb GAYtheist whose a coward a won’t debate Jay dyer because he knows he’ll be crushed. He also is terrified of Muslims proving my point he punches down on Evanglicals, I don’t even think he goes for Roman Catholics much because they are more intellectual than protties and their idiotic cult

He’s extremely overrated and shit he relies on low IQs to debate but when confronted with an intellectual Philopher like Jay dyer he crumbles. Essentially Coward Oh Conner attacks Evangelicals because they are a easy target and extremely low IQ and their RELGION is as retarded as them so he goes for them but he won’t go for the ancient churches because he knows he’ll be crushed

I will look into that Indian Christianity stuff u were talking about one day.

 

[tomacōck]

And that’s your argument to just say “No you”

You have no argument no evidence no points jsut “Umm well I disagree because I just disagree”

Your a fucking joke

@ltnbrownacnecel I hope you take notes as to how I’m so easily able to dismantle anti Christian’s with 0 effort just by using literal facts. Many lie on my RELGION the when presented with facts they breakdown like these 2 idiots

???
How come 3 persons be one entity yet also be unequal?

 

[Deleted member 145728]

@ltnbrownacnecel I hope you take notes as to how I’m so easily able to dismantle anti Christian’s with 0 effort just by using literal facts. Many lie on my RELGION the when presented with facts they breakdown like these 2 idiots

He dont want to fuck you bro

 

[Deleted member 145728]

I’m not Roman Catholic you brainlet I even said “western” which includes both protties and Roman Catholics

I’m eastern Christian you fucking know this why you strawmanning again you fucking Arab bastard

Jesus wasn’t born on September there’s 0 evidence of this nowhere is this stated or even sensible. The evidence is simple it’s early January Nothing more nothing less. At the earliest December.

9/11 was a satanist Islamic and American joint venture. Americas a satanist nation and Islams a satanist cult so yeah they collided to do crime no shock there

The sign is the stars the star of bethlehem happened on September 11 3BC Jesus was born between 6 pm and 7 pm between this day your welcome now that you are enlightened

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

The sign is the stars the star of bethlehem happened on September 11 3BC Jesus was born between 6 pm and 7 pm between this day your welcome now that you are enlightened

Your a fucking retard

???
How come 3 persons be one entity yet also be unequal?

Unequal ?

Well in terms of status sure the same way your a human and so’s your boss but your both equally human despite you being below him the same applies here.

The father son and Holy Spirit are the same being but different persons sharing say the same atoms if you will. The father would be like the driver the son being the brain and the spirit being the body if we were to anthropomorphise it

One God, one will, one act. What differentiates the persons is their origins, the father is Asea which means independent of origin, the Fayher is the source/font of the Nature of “God” he is the Orgin of all, the Son Proceeds from the Father and the Spirits Spirates. All three share the same Nature that nature is what makes them all eqallly “God”. These are the properties of the persons but the properties of the persons are not equal to the properties of the Nature. In the trinitarian economia everything begins with the Father being the one who begins all, then the Son carries out that as the Logos the word, and it’s completed realised in the spirit.

St Maximus the Confessor on his book the Ambigua in the 7th century wrote about this and the relationship of the persons in the trinity and how they act as one and are one.

The same way there’s one train but multiple carriages within that one train

 

[Centurion Hunter]

are pretty serious about it.

most western born muslims arent really loyal bout it
feminism is coming for everyone
just look at saudi foids 10yr ago vs today
some incels too have traveled to taliban afghanistan and foids werent opressed as the media paints it

 

[Chakras]

Both are shite as religions and ways of life. All religions are shite.

 

[oxyyy]

Christianity has better beliefs but I still think muslims follow their religion better are generally better people. This coming from an agnostic.

nothing mogs christian theology, i read 40% from the quran and most by the bible
muslims only cause problems in europe, and it would be better in every regard, and muslims following their allah are on government gibs

jfl le atheist talk about dinosaurs or something

 

[oxyyy]

Western and Protestant Christianity*.

There’s a big difference between ancient (eastern) and western (new high medieval and renissance) Christianity

the media portrays church attendance much different to what it actually is, due to defamination as an actual oppositting to the ongoing "zeitgeist", its not nearly as you think once you are there.
Islam brings legit no values other then racemixxing, chaos, sodomy, and shitskins from the middle east

 

[oxyyy]

Atheism>Paganism>Abrahamic Dogs

the term religion is made up by ((academics)) to defame christians jfl
christianity > rest
you believe in dinosaurs (jfl), racemixing (jfl), israel (jfl), democracy (jfl)

 

[oxyyy]

Mostly
And there is no basis behind the Trinitarian view
God is one, full stop punctuation.

you are legit completely braindead if you think that theres no signs of a creator, only a book u refugeecel

god is almigthy and has everything under his control
god is judging you by the sins, and serves as an eternal judge
god made contact with the idolers with his own flesh

 

[tomacōck]

Your a fucking retard


Unequal ?

Well in terms of status sure the same way your a human and so’s your boss but your both equally human despite you being below him the same applies here.

The father son and Holy Spirit are the same being but different persons sharing say the same atoms if you will. The father would be like the driver the son being the brain and the spirit being the body if we were to anthropomorphise it

One God, one will, one act. What differentiates the persons is their origins, the father is Asea which means independent of origin, the Fayher is the source/font of the Nature of “God” he is the Orgin of all, the Son Proceeds from the Father and the Spirits Spirates. All three share the same Nature that nature is what makes them all eqallly “God”. These are the properties of the persons but the properties of the persons are not equal to the properties of the Nature. In the trinitarian economia everything begins with the Father being the one who begins all, then the Son carries out that as the Logos the word, and it’s completed realised in the spirit.

St Maximus the Confessor on his book the Ambigua in the 7th century wrote about this and the relationship of the persons in the trinity and how they act as one and are one.

The same way there’s one train but multiple carriages within that one train

Stupid response if one has authority over God then what kind of God is that

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Stupid response if one has authority over God then what kind of God is that

Are you dumb ? Did you not even read what I said. The father is the sole cause the Font he is the “God” in the sense of him Being the uncaused cause. It’s a property of
His PERSONHOOD not his nature. But the Son and Spirt as equally God as they have the same NATURE as the father. So it is
One WHAT 3 WHOS very simple the WHAT is God The WHO is FATHER SON HOLY
SPIRIT same way your a retard with a pea brain but you also have a spirit and a soul, you are equal to all those components but if you
Lose your soul you aren’t whole are you? There ya go same applies here. If you cared you’d read St Maximus the confessors work on this and gain clarity instead of chatting low IQs drivel you dumb heathen infidel.

If it’s too Much for you and your low IQs to comprehend then don’t be Christian god ain’t forcing you to follow him he, gives you the choice.’either accept Him as he said he is or go be muslim Or GAYthiest or stn. GOD doesn’t NEED YOU JESUS MADE IT VERY CLEAR HE IS GOD AND SO IS FATHER AND HOLY SPIRIT ITS THAT SIMPLE THE FATHER IS THE PRIME OF THE GODHEAD BECAUSE ALL BEGINS WITH HIM THROUGH THE SON IN THE SPIRIT

 

[tomacōck]

Are you dumb ? Did you not even read what I said. The father is the sole cause the Font he is the “God” in the sense of him Being the uncaused cause. It’s a property of
His PERSONHOOD not his nature. But the Son and Spirt as equally God as they have the same NATURE as the father. So it is
One WHAT 3 WHOS very simple the WHAT is God The WHO is FATHER SON HOLY
SPIRIT same way your a retard with a pea brain but you also have a spirit and a soul, you are equal to all those components but if you
Lose your soul you aren’t whole are you? There ya go same applies here. If you cared you’d read St Maximus the confessors work on this and gain clarity instead of chatting low IQs drivel you dumb heathen infidel.

If it’s too Much for you and your low IQs to comprehend then don’t be Christian god ain’t forcing you to follow him he, gives you the choice.’either accept Him as he said he is or go be muslim Or GAYthiest or stn. GOD doesn’t NEED YOU JESUS MADE IT VERY CLEAR HE IS GOD AND SO IS FATHER AND HOLY SPIRIT ITS THAT SIMPLE THE FATHER IS THE PRIME OF THE GODHEAD BECAUSE ALL BEGINS WITH HIM THROUGH THE SON IN THE SPIRIT

define personhood and nature.

 

[tomacōck]

you are legit completely braindead if you think that theres no signs of a creator

i made the opposite point. learn how to read

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

define personhood and nature.

Nature as pointed out by Aristotle is what makes a thing what it is, its the WHATness of the thing.

The personess (Hypostasis) is reference to the agent unique, distinct, and relational mode of existence. Within a single shared Ousia (essense/nature). The person is an "ekstatic" (self-transcending) reality, finding fulfilment in communion with others, modelled after the Holy Trinity. So the WHOness of a thing

 

[tomacōck]

Nature as pointed out by Aristotle is what makes a thing what it is, its the WHATness of the thing.

The personess (Hypostasis) is reference to the agent unique, distinct, and relational mode of existence. Within a single shared Ousia (essense/nature). The person is an "ekstatic" (self-transcending) reality, finding fulfilment in communion with others, modelled after the Holy Trinity. So the WHOness of a thing

you believe there could be many persons in the form of God?

 

[tomacōck]

Nature as pointed out by Aristotle is what makes a thing what it is, its the WHATness of the thing.

The personess (Hypostasis) is reference to the agent unique, distinct, and relational mode of existence. Within a single shared Ousia (essense/nature). The person is an "ekstatic" (self-transcending) reality, finding fulfilment in communion with others, modelled after the Holy Trinity. So the WHOness of a thing

the nature of God is so that he is unified, how come a being like God have 3 persons? what if they disagree? and how can human be God?

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

the nature of God is so that he is unified, how come a being like God have 3 persons? what if they disagree? and how can human be God?

This is why reading comprehension is important

They share the same WILL same MIND same ACT. So what do you think. All of these things are properties of the Nature, the only properties of the PERSONS is their origin

• The Father is the unbegotten source of the Godhead.
• The Son is eternally begotten of the Father.
• The Holy Spirit eternally proceeds from the Father.

In orthodoxy we have a term to describe this eternal indwelling it’s called Perichoresis: The unity of the Trinity is maintained through perichoresis (mutual indwelling or "dancing around"), an ontological "dialogue of love" where each person fully shares in the life and nature of the others without confusion or separation. The "other" person is a validation of one's own identity.

personhood in the Trinity is primary, and the unity of essence flows from the communion of persons, rather than the essence being an ontological reality prior to the persons. So essentially the Father is the source of the “God Nature”

Joke is all this shit has been explained and clarified in the 100-600s AD before even the Religion of Islam but people are so ignorant they choose to not read up on the church fathers

 

[tomacōck]

This is why reading comprehension is important

They share the same WILL same MIND same ACT. So what do you think. All of these things are properties of the Nature, the only properties of the PERSONS is their origin

• The Father is the unbegotten source of the Godhead.
• The Son is eternally begotten of the Father.
• The Holy Spirit eternally proceeds from the Father.

In orthodoxy we have a term to describe this eternal indwelling it’s called Perichoresis: The unity of the Trinity is maintained through perichoresis (mutual indwelling or "dancing around"), an ontological "dialogue of love" where each person fully shares in the life and nature of the others without confusion or separation. The "other" person is a validation of one's own identity.

personhood in the Trinity is primary, and the unity of essence flows from the communion of persons, rather than the essence being an ontological reality prior to the persons. So essentially the Father is the source of the “God Nature”

Joke is all this shit has been explained and clarified in the 100-600s AD before even the Religion of Islam but people are so ignorant they choose to not read up on the church fathers

How come flesh be God? Isn't human imperfect?
And how can God be a curse? Why would you follow the one who is cursed?
Galatians 3:13:
"Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”
John 17 is basically an entire prayer of Jesus to THe Father.
Jesus prays to The Father. How come a being of the nature of God be the one who prays to other? That makes one inferior and puts him into submission to other. That is not one attribute of God.
1 Timothy 2:5:
"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;"
???
A God between The God and man? Is he really a God??

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

How come flesh be God? Isn't human imperfect?
And how can God be a curse? Why would you follow the one who is cursed?
Galatians 3:13:
"Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”
John 17 is basically an entire prayer of Jesus to THe Father.
Jesus prays to The Father. How come a being of the nature of God be the one who prays to other? That makes one inferior and puts him into submission to other. That is not one attribute of God.
1 Timothy 2:5:
"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;"
???
A God between The God and man? Is he really a God??

Who said flesh is god? How don’t you understand simple Christian metaphysics. Nobody said flesh is God are you retarded

CURSE:
Christ isn’t cursed he took on the curse of man the curse being thag “the wages of Sin is death” the hanging off a tree == death being said curse. Christ took on our sin to cleanse us, he took on our curse the curse of being Human and being the pure Lord he is with no sin he wiped that away enabling us to gain oneness with him. god can’t have any imperfections no disgusting things near him he’s a lawful good deity by default so prices will be payed regardless. But God loves his creation and wants a way for us to unite in communion with him so that sacrifice by God was the best way to do so

Another reason was to graft human nature to him the way god can purify humanity via its nature and uplift it to himself this is why on judgement day all humans good and bad will arise eternally with god or go to hell this is literally the only reason.


Prayer meaning :
Prayer doesn’t mean worship it mean “beseech” commune. In the English root for the word pray it was used to make requests that’s why in the olden days people say “I pray tither thee” meaning they are asking a noble to do something for them.

The Son is always communing with the Spirit and the Father and vice versa they are always in communion and as Jesus says in John 5:21-33 he does exactly as the father does for the father is always at work and so is he and he and the father are ONE, you faggots love to quote mine but it never helps you when you suits try this shit it’s huge failure. Also Jesus many times was acting these things out to teach us how to pray


The term “God” and how it has been applied in history and in reference to the trinity:
God used in the sense is referring to the Asea (aseity (from the Latin a se, meaning "from oneself") is the core doctrine that God is entirely self-existent, self-sufficient, and absolutely independent) the first cause the unmoved mover, the father is God as a property of his personhood.

However the Son and Spirt are also God for they say the same WHATness as the father, the thing that makes them God is that they derive their Orgin from the Father as he is the one that propagates the nature which gives rise to both the spirt and Son, the same way your body gives rise to your Brain and the way your soul gives rise to your body.

So the father can be called the “One true God” in reference to his personhood property but the spirit and Son can also be called God in relation to their nature as a property of their nature.


@iblamexyz this is how you destroy Mohammeden and Gay Unitarian cucks

 

[tomacōck]

Who said flesh is god? How don’t you understand simple Christian metaphysics. Nobody said flesh is God are you retarded

CURSE:
Christ isn’t cursed he took on the curse of man the curse being thag “the wages of Sin is death” the hanging off a tree == death being said curse. Christ took on our sin to cleanse us, he took on our curse the curse of being Human and being the pure Lord he is with no sin he wiped that away enabling us to gain oneness with him. god can’t have any imperfections no disgusting things near him he’s a lawful good deity by default so prices will be payed regardless. But God loves his creation and wants a way for us to unite in communion with him so that sacrifice by God was the best way to do so

Another reason was to graft human nature to him the way god can purify humanity via its nature and uplift it to himself this is why on judgement day all humans good and bad will arise eternally with god or go to hell this is literally the only reason.


Prayer meaning :
Prayer doesn’t mean worship it mean “beseech” commune. In the English root for the word pray it was used to make requests that’s why in the olden days people say “I pray tither thee” meaning they are asking a noble to do something for them.

The Son is always communing with the Spirit and the Father and vice versa they are always in communion and as Jesus says in John 5:21-33 he does exactly as the father does for the father is always at work and so is he and he and the father are ONE, you faggots love to quote mine but it never helps you when you suits try this shit it’s huge failure. Also Jesus many times was acting these things out to teach us how to pray


The term “God” and how it has been applied in history and in reference to the trinity:
God used in the sense is referring to the Asea (aseity (from the Latin a se, meaning "from oneself") is the core doctrine that God is entirely self-existent, self-sufficient, and absolutely independent) the first cause the unmoved mover, the father is God as a property of his personhood.

However the Son and Spirt are also God for they say the same WHATness as the father, the thing that makes them God is that they derive their Orgin from the Father as he is the one that propagates the nature which gives rise to both the spirt and Son, the same way your body gives rise to your Brain and the way your soul gives rise to your body.

So the father can be called the “One true God” in reference to his personhood property but the spirit and Son can also be called God in relation to their nature as a property of their nature.


@iblamexyz this is how you destroy Mohammeden and Gay Unitarian cucks

Your points are insufficient but I see no use in arguing with you
I do not agree nor respect your standpoints but I'm glad you try to seek the truth
May God guide you
Lakum deenukum wa liya deen

 

[iblamexyz]

H

Who said flesh is god? How don’t you understand simple Christian metaphysics. Nobody said flesh is God are you retarded

CURSE:
Christ isn’t cursed he took on the curse of man the curse being thag “the wages of Sin is death” the hanging off a tree == death being said curse. Christ took on our sin to cleanse us, he took on our curse the curse of being Human and being the pure Lord he is with no sin he wiped that away enabling us to gain oneness with him. god can’t have any imperfections no disgusting things near him he’s a lawful good deity by default so prices will be payed regardless. But God loves his creation and wants a way for us to unite in communion with him so that sacrifice by God was the best way to do so

Another reason was to graft human nature to him the way god can purify humanity via its nature and uplift it to himself this is why on judgement day all humans good and bad will arise eternally with god or go to hell this is literally the only reason.


Prayer meaning :
Prayer doesn’t mean worship it mean “beseech” commune. In the English root for the word pray it was used to make requests that’s why in the olden days people say “I pray tither thee” meaning they are asking a noble to do something for them.

The Son is always communing with the Spirit and the Father and vice versa they are always in communion and as Jesus says in John 5:21-33 he does exactly as the father does for the father is always at work and so is he and he and the father are ONE, you faggots love to quote mine but it never helps you when you suits try this shit it’s huge failure. Also Jesus many times was acting these things out to teach us how to pray


The term “God” and how it has been applied in history and in reference to the trinity:
God used in the sense is referring to the Asea (aseity (from the Latin a se, meaning "from oneself") is the core doctrine that God is entirely self-existent, self-sufficient, and absolutely independent) the first cause the unmoved mover, the father is God as a property of his personhood.

However the Son and Spirt are also God for they say the same WHATness as the father, the thing that makes them God is that they derive their Orgin from the Father as he is the one that propagates the nature which gives rise to both the spirt and Son, the same way your body gives rise to your Brain and the way your soul gives rise to your body.

So the father can be called the “One true God” in reference to his personhood property but the spirit and Son can also be called God in relation to their nature as a property of their nature.


@iblamexyz this is how you destroy Mohammeden and Gay Unitarian cucks

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[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Your points are insufficient but I see no use in arguing with you
I do not agree nor respect your standpoints but I'm glad you try to seek the truth
May God guide you
Lakum deenukum wa liya deen

I’ll take that as you conceding defeat which is normal when anti Christian debates knowledgable ones it alias ends badly for you lot



I didn’t know you was Muslim I thought you was Unitarian but I did notice you parroted a lot of Dawah talking points had I know you was Muslim I would had pressed you on the absurdities of Islam which im extremely well versed in but anyways GG you were somewhat respectful and thus I shall return the favour and be as well. But yeah Christianity isn’t illogical it’s extremely logical and makes compete sense when broken down it’s jsut a very intellectually rigorous faith and one that the avg observant will know literally nothing about. That’s why most Christian’s I know irl and on here ask me questions because besides from learned priests most people are plebs with my faith. I’ll give you Muslims this, you lot are more knowledgeable on your deen than Christian’s are on ours hence why so many get led astray to other faiths and Gaytheism.

 

[Deleted member 291098]

Christians in 2026 are more Satanic than most Satanists

 

[Deleted member 283623]

Christians in 2026 are more Satanic than most Satanists

Religion is such bs this was a pointless thread.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

sorry but the trinity is something that i can’t wrap my head around. nor the concept of original sin. at least islam is somewhat simple

Orginal sin isn’t something Christian’s believe in btw it’s one of the biggest myths people have about us. You’re only responsible FOR YOUR OWN SINS. We just sag that due to the fall of Adam and Eve we are Tilted towards sin due to the corruption of human nature. I hope that clears things up

Regarding the trinity well God all throughout the Old Testament reveals himself as Triune which makes sense, even your Quran says “Allah is unlike creation” but for some weird reason people he hung up on a cosmic divine deity being unlike anything created. You’re not supposed to understand the trinity in and out that’s not the point the point is to accept God as he said he is. By the Islamic standard the God of the Bible is closer to the “Allah is unlike anything in creation” Criteria than Allah himself That’s the irony because many things In are “one” yet nothing is triune and even the number 3 is considered an archetype of creation proving the trinity.

Point is the trinity is the only logical god all others are silly and false an fall into issues

 

[oxyyy]

giga fucking cope dirty immigrant low iq brownoid take nigger

The Truth > ((Islam))
Worshippers of the almighty Creator > Idol Worshippers

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

Orginal sin isn’t something Christian’s believe in btw it’s one of the biggest myths people have about us. You’re only responsible FOR YOUR OWN SINS. We just sag that due to the fall of Adam and Eve we are Tilted towards sin due to the corruption of human nature. I hope that clears things up

Regarding the trinity well God all throughout the Old Testament reveals himself as Triune which makes sense, even your Quran says “Allah is unlike creation” but for some weird reason people he hung up on a cosmic divine deity being unlike anything created. You’re not supposed to understand the trinity in and out that’s not the point the point is to accept God as he said he is. By the Islamic standard the God of the Bible is closer to the “Allah is unlike anything in creation” Criteria than Allah himself That’s the irony because many things In are “one” yet nothing is triune and even the number 3 is considered an archetype of creation proving the trinity.

Point is the trinity is the only logical god all others are silly and false an fall into issues

I didn’t know that. Thank you for the response