knowing something will happen and causing or morally intending for something to happen is different God knows someone will choose evil without making them choose it<
I accept it? I never denied it. I just said it's the same for atheists. You don't need a church to have a certain belief. I would argue that atheism has more propaganda because the theory you teach in school carefully tells you god doesn't exist. Also my religion doesn't do this door to door this. The religions that do this are acting like a cult and are actually just heretics to the true orthodox religion. Catholics are the most acceptable ones.
Uhh, humans did it, you can thank Eve for that especially. It is there to test your character too, it is easy to be evil, being a nice and kind person is what is hard. Most evil/suffering is caused by other humans anyway lol.
I disagree and don’t want to go into semantics but why would god allow suffering to happen? Why create an imperfect world
(joke)
I know that I was raised christian and i’ve spent a million hours trying to figure out if God is real and if he is if it’s the God in the Bible. I’ve kind of just accepted that i’m not convinced, and if i get proven wrong when i die that sucks but that’s how it goes. I do like a lot of the art and moral lessons Christianity has inspired and think there’s plenty of good messages in the gospels, but i don’t feel like spending more time thinking about it than i already have.
You are right I checked. But then this just means the statement of the guy I replied collapses so it's the same. Family influence is also important.
my explanation is that there is a greater outcome from it.
No need for tests, he’s all knowing
no, natural suffering done to animals is far greater than any committed by us, 99.9% of all animal species have gone extinct naturally. That’s God’s fault. Even tho that’s not the full argument I’m trying to make
its not propaganda if its true
im NOT that young if you be talking about me im just here to read opinions, ive been questioning things for a good while
My distrust of these religions starts at the literal creation story
many christians argue that most siencethists where chrsitian and studying what god madeits not propaganda if its true
niggas about to tell me the earth is 3000 years old and that evolution is fake and science is all a scam
i can just sense it…
do you seriously believe the biblical creation story?
No way it can be proved. But they directly shove it in you face that god doesn't exist instead of leaving you to decide.its not propaganda if its true
Earth is not 3000 years old.
the bible doesn't deny evolution
Deep down you know matter must be created by something that doesn't have a beginning. You guys love to cope by making hard moral questions and be surprised that the average religious guy can't answer. If you want an answer go to a person who has deep knowledge of theology an you will get your answers. In the US it will be harder sadly.
The Jewish word for a day also means a period of time. And you believe that matter cam from nothingMy distrust of these religions starts at the literal creation story
JFL at niggas who think the earth was created in 7 days by god and that all of humanity originated from one breeding pair
Conceding logical arguments always happen when Christians are disproven
RealWas born into cringe atheist family and became Christian as an adult, Bible is ultra blackpilled and explains why the world looks like it does now perfectly lol. Many are trying to cope with this but ignore them and seek out the true faith.Feminism and modern hypergamy only exists due to atheism + secular cringe atheistic society for ex, most modern problems and existance of most incels are caused by this lol.
JFL @ life just got created out of random by random molecules combing and forming leading to creation of life for no reason. Literally makes no sense, you have to be insane to believe this. Even when I was an atheist kid in school and learned this I couldn't help but think "this sounds like bullshit".My distrust of these religions starts at the literal creation story
JFL at niggas who think the earth was created in 7 days by god and that all of humanity originated from one breeding pair
bettttttt
I just simply don't have the knowledge to answer to this question. Therefore I can't explain it.
did humanity not start with adam and eve according to the bible
yes christian belive that adam was the original simp and simping altered human existence...
This is because most don't care to look into detail as what is true therefore leading to this. That's how many heretics come. Even I could do it. That's why I don't like arguing because I don't have perfect knowledge. I admit I am lazy and have been struggling with depression ( may come off as an excuse and maybe it is) so I haven't looked everything.
God of the gaps.
cmon bro get help, do better, a 9 year old is a child and i dont wanna get circumsied, comn bro comn islam is such a joke
Science just explains and confirms God and creation IMO lol.. I just see more proof life and this world are complex and must have been designed.
This is not a flaw. You can't say this without informing yourself.
I will give you a moral flaw. Tell me if your god is true if he allows and even rewards you for this. A Muslim receives a greater reward for the more brutal and inhuman way of killing a person who rejected islam. Your people were playing catch with a baby and each one of you holding sharpened sticks. You animals
yoo thats actually funny
This is micro evolution.
They can't because the physics don't allow it.
nice reddit comments response
WORST comment btw
Human conscience can't even be explained by evolution dude, evolutionary human conscience is a huge flaw. People literally kill themselves from it, hamper their reproduction and survival etc with feelings like morals, guilt, right and wrong.. makes zero sense for it to exist from an evolutionary perspective.
I was implying that just everyone has a moral compass and knows what's right. Not deism.
If that’s as the case then moral dilemmas and free will wouldn’t even really exist
First of all, you didnt acknowledge my argument. Just because we dont know how life started doesnt mean you can attribute it to god (god of the gaps)
God of the gaps again. One day scientists will figure it out. You cannot attribute things you do not understand to god.. its okay to say “I dont know”
it's better to triumph over evil and eternally relish in this triumph than to have eternal happiness without triumph
any religion is cope lol
shoudve igonered your first comment fuck im such a lick
It goes away as you freely choose to not listen to it. For example when you lie for the first time you feel guilt but now probably barely.If that’s as the case then moral dilemmas and free will wouldn’t even really exist
What? I never denied evolution lol, I believe most of it is real, but some things like conscience can't really explained by it. Whenever men are horny why don't they all just do rape for ex? Kill other people for their stuff? Kill other peoples' children like animals do to reproduce with the woman again? Because most would feel bad from that.. but evolutionary it would be the sound choice, so doesn't even make sense feelings like guilt and right/wrong exist. Or why so many kill themselves.
zero logical flaws, zero textual errors, pure fantasy fanfiction
Bro chooses to blindly believe that they will "figure it out" but shits on other people believing
lets just ignore this guy even if it bumps up the threadzero logical flaws, zero textual errors, pure fantasy fanfiction
islam strictly bans mutilation, torture, and harming non combatants or infants
ironic you invent fake baby stories when christian theology claims jesus is the OT god who literally commanded infant genocide in 1 samuel 15:3 ("kill both man and woman, child and infant")
cope harder nigger
religion doesn't deny evolution
Yeah it’s the real one
