Christians: If sin was set into place in the Garden, why did satan revolt if God’s creation was perfect pre-garden?

[wasc]

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[FutureSlayer]

Cause Satan is the first ever sinner, not Adam afaik

 

[wasc]

Cause Satan is the first ever sinner, not Adam afaik

why does sin exist then if satan was created without flaws? sin isn’t a flaw in that case, correct?

 

[FutureSlayer]

why does sin exist then if satan was created without flaws? sin isn’t a flaw in that case, correct?

Satan isn’t made in the image of God tho, we are

 

[wasc]

Satan isn’t made in the image of God tho, we are

God created everything and he saw that it was good. he created satan. satan sinned. how is that good? if god created everything he created pride (satans sin)

 

[FutureSlayer]

God created everything and he saw that it was good. he created satan. satan sinned. how is that good? if god created everything he created pride (satans sin)

he created the possibility of sin, yea, not sin per se… I’m not even christian tho but I feel this is the answer, God built the chance of doing virtually everything computable

 

[Brus Wane]

I always wondered why the Lucifer story isn’t included in the Bible

The backstory should 100% be in there

Otherwise they have to keep explaining at sunday school where the devil came from

 

[Fiivion]

Heaven and garden of Eden are two different things

 

[wasc]

he created the possibility of sin, yea, not sin per se… I’m not even christian tho but I feel this is the answer, God built the chance of doing virtually everything computable

so… he created wrongdoing?

 

[FutureSlayer]

so… he created wrongdoing?

he created the traintrack but did not push the train on it

 

[wasc]

Heaven and garden of Eden are two different things

everything is gods creation. he created them to be good. is good revolting from him? did he create satanic knowing he would revolt? he is all knowing after all.

 

[wasc]

he created the traintrack but did not push the train on it

hes all knowing. he knew sin would exist and it would cause hurt. he still created the world knowing that.

 

[FutureSlayer]

hes all knowing. he knew sin would exist and it would cause hurt. he still created the world knowing that.

Yes, jeovah witnesses say he has the chance of knowing the possible outcomes but decides to not doing it, like a man turning on/off a radio. He likes to experience time like us

 

[wasc]

Yes, jeovah witnesses say he has the chance of knowing the possible outcomes but decides to not doing it, like a man turning on/off a radio. He likes to experience time like us

so our God is oblivious to our hardships?

 

[FutureSlayer]

so our God is oblivious to our hardships?

he is, he does not care

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

There are dozens of doctrines that attempt to explain how a benevolent and allmighty god allows evil and sin to exist

Theodicy - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Deleted member 101669]

arguing about this shit isn't much better than arguing about anime plots lol

 

[wasc]

There are dozens of doctrines that attempt to explain how a benevolent and allmighty god allows evil and sin to exist

Theodicy - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

that’s not what im getting at. that scrapes the surface. sin happened on earth because of the garden. why was the tree of life even in the garden if it contained sin in a perfect world ?

 

[wasc]

arguing about this shit isn't much better than arguing about anime plots lol

if the world is truly created these conversations are the most important one could ever have