Are you Jewish?
Arent you same people but different religion ?fuck churchill but he was right about the hindpoos
depends which group you are talking about
The two main of each countriesdepends which group you are talking about
punjabis make up of 44.7% of my country but in india they are only 2.58% of the population. plus i have no family living in india so we may share a language but we have been separated for centuries
What other half ?
Why you people use Khan as a family name ?
no other half, the other ethnic groups are much smaller in comparison so the rest of the numbers are other ethnic groups
we dont, at least my family name doesnt. most of pakistan was a part of the mongol empire so khan was a good title back then and people just adopted it so they could get respect since in islamic countries, family name is attached to respect and if your name is from a higher background then you get more status in society. at least back then. these days many just larp and add any royal sounding name to their family. for instance there are so called syeds meaning they are descendants of the prophet muhammad (peace be upon him) but none of them look remotely arabic
On /pol/we dont, at least my family name doesnt. most of pakistan was a part of the mongol empire so khan was a good title back then and people just adopted it so they could get respect since in islamic countries, family name is attached to respect and if your name is from a higher background then you get more status in society. at least back then. these days many just larp and add any royal sounding name to their family. for instance there are so called syeds meaning they are descendants of the prophet muhammad (peace be upon him) but none of them look remotely arabic
mughal empire was created by babur who himself was a descendant of both timur and genghis khan. baburs mother was a mongol and his father was central asian as his father was the ruler of an empire that was in uzbekistan, afghanistan, kazakhstan and eastern iran.
But what causes this kind of larps ?
timur was an undefeated military leader. and no, pakistan isnt remotely turkic. we do have some turkic peoples such as hazaras but there is only 900,000 of them in a country of 220 million or so.
who is etugrul? i havent heard of any etugrul causing damage to the country? and i forgot to mention that where i am from, it wasnt ruled by the mongol empire but it was ruled by the delhi sultanate
they defeated the mongols many times which no other group in history can sayErtugrul the showtimur was an undefeated military leader. and no, pakistan isnt remotely turkic. we do have some turkic peoples such as hazaras but there is only 900,000 of them in a country of 220 million or so.
who is etugrul? i havent heard of any etugrul causing damage to the country? and i forgot to mention that where i am from, it wasnt ruled by the mongol empire but it was ruled by the delhi sultanate
Arent hazaras mongols ?timur was an undefeated military leader. and no, pakistan isnt remotely turkic. we do have some turkic peoples such as hazaras but there is only 900,000 of them in a country of 220 million or so.
who is etugrul? i havent heard of any etugrul causing damage to the country? and i forgot to mention that where i am from, it wasnt ruled by the mongol empire but it was ruled by the delhi sultanate
What state do you consider the ancestor of pakistan ?timur was an undefeated military leader. and no, pakistan isnt remotely turkic. we do have some turkic peoples such as hazaras but there is only 900,000 of them in a country of 220 million or so.
who is etugrul? i havent heard of any etugrul causing damage to the country? and i forgot to mention that where i am from, it wasnt ruled by the mongol empire but it was ruled by the delhi sultanate
isnt ertugrul from the ottoman empire? we didnt have beef with them at all? we are united by islam
some people say so, but since they speak hazaragi which is their version of farsi, which is the official language in persia. tbh i shouldve called them iranic instead of turkic lol
the indus valley civilization, it was the oldest civilization, predating ancient egypt and mesopotamia. but there is little known about them, that is how ancient they are. however some people like indians will claim that vedic civilization is the ancestor of the region but that is false because that was in 1500 bc and the indus valley civilization was thousands of years before that so those indians are doing what they do best and that is lying.
it is embarrassing you are indian and love jews
Vedic were the steppe aryans invaders ?
Also im talking ertugrul is brainwashing some pakistanis into thinking they turkic
Hazaras are scum
literally nobody is “turkic” these days, even turks nowadays are not even turkic anymore. only turkics are the real central asians
But some retards think they are turkics
Yep
the mamluks beat the mongols and ended their advancement in western Asia in a battle that happened 20 minutes away from my homethey defeated the mongols many times which no other group in history can say
idk but they started with hinduism etc
no pakistanis watch it because islamic history is for every islamic population and not only ottomans
yes i know about that, interesting that it was nearby for you tbhthe mamluks beat the mongols and ended their advancement in western Asia in a battle that happened 20 minutes away from my home
Battle of Ain Jalut - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
I heard they are the elite who call the shots in Pakistan.
Some have Turkish ancestry tbh.
We have their ancestry. On average it's 20%. Seljuks themselves where probably at 40% central asian ancestry. The proper word is Anatolian Turk.
We trace liniage to them. Most your country define themselves as Arabs despite the fact they are influenced by other afro asiatic tribes.
Not at allidk but they started with hinduism etc
no pakistanis watch it because islamic history is for every islamic population and not only ottomans
yes i know about that, interesting that it was nearby for you tbh
Im talking about pakistanis claiming turkic
they did average dna test it was like 5-15% depending on region
I am sayyid arasoolwe dont, at least my family name doesnt. most of pakistan was a part of the mongol empire so khan was a good title back then and people just adopted it so they could get respect since in islamic countries, family name is attached to respect and if your name is from a higher background then you get more status in society. at least back then. these days many just larp and add any royal sounding name to their family. for instance there are so called syeds meaning they are descendants of the prophet muhammad (peace be upon him) but none of them look remotely arabic
And i know that we are Berber genetically
Anyway
It's our foundation. Depending on region the 'average' may differ. New studies in Turkey showed 20% central asian liniage, 30% from Seljuks. We never claim to be central asians. We are Anatolian Turks.
We have similair history tbh. Both of our empires functioned similair. There is an undeniable Turkish presence in Pakistan
Yes but they arent mughals
Anatolian Turk is an identity in liniage. If you are connected to the Turkish Islamic expansion into anatolia during the first or second migration you are a Turk.
It would be like me claiming algerians are Romans cause our Cavalry was the elite cavalry of the Roman army
