Cjc-1295 dac or no dac?

[FlourideGoyium]

I'm sixteen have cycled var, mk, and little bit of hgh for about two months but hgh is more expensive than I thought. I've been seeing a lot of talk about cjc-1295 + ipamorelin being the poor man's hgh and think I'm going to swap to it because of the price. I'm just unsure whether or not to run cjc dac or no dac. From what I understand (I'm not an iqcel I have a pretty surface level understanding of these compounds so I probably I have poor understanding of what they do) dac produces more igf-1 but speeds up the process of growth plate closure, essentially negating the height growth you would have gotten.

Just wondering what the consensus is here. Also if anyone else has pinned these compounds it would be nice if you shared your experiences.

@org3cel.RR I heard you know a lot of pharmacology

 

[aac21]

yo bro whats ur experinece usingMK and HGH, are ur plates open and if so have you noticed growth in height? facial bone mass? even muscular gains? bloating from mk?

 

[FlourideGoyium]

yo bro whats ur experinece usingMK and HGH, are ur plates open and if so have you noticed growth in height? facial bone mass? even muscular gains? bloating from mk?

To be completely honest there hasn't been too much change because I have only been on for two months, but mk definitely helped me put on a lot more mass than I normally would have (for context I'm a 6'3 150lb lanklet who has struggled putting on weight forever). Mk hasn't bloated me at all and also has the bonus of greatly improving my sleep.

Hgh on the other hand was incredibly expensive and hard to set up. It hasn't really done much (once again, its only been two months of usage), which is why I'm trying to switch to cjc + ipamorelin.

Long story short, my growth plates are still open, there have been little changes to my face and height (although I have only been cycling for two months), and mk and a low dose of var has definitely helped me mass significantly faster than before.

 

[FlourideGoyium]

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[aac21]

To be completely honest there hasn't been too much change because I have only been on for two months, but mk definitely helped me put on a lot more mass than I normally would have (for context I'm a 6'3 150lb lanklet who has struggled putting on weight forever). Mk hasn't bloated me at all and also has the bonus of greatly improving my sleep.

Hgh on the other hand was incredibly expensive and hard to set up. It hasn't really done much (once again, its only been two months of usage), which is why I'm trying to switch to cjc + ipamorelin.

Long story short, my growth plates are still open, there have been little changes to my face and height (although I have only been cycling for two months), and mk and a low dose of var has definitely helped me mass significantly faster than before.

ah okay, im not gonna lie im in the same boat as you (hard gainer) thats why im gonna use MK for the appetite to hopefully put on stricly lean gains and muscle since im very lean naturally

was your gains with mk mostly lean and muscle?

 

[FlourideGoyium]

ah okay, im not gonna lie im in the same boat as you (hard gainer) thats why im gonna use MK for the appetite to hopefully put on stricly lean gains and muscle since im very lean naturally

was your gains with mk mostly lean and muscle?

Yes, it was mostly lean and muscle.

 

[FlourideGoyium]

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[aac21]

Yes, it was mostly lean and muscle.

thats great, some ppl hate on mk but it seems good especially if u didnt get much bloating ofc im gonna manage it and stay well hydrated

have u had symptoms of high blood sugar/insulin ressitance, did you check at all or were u chillin? did u take berberine?

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Just use gh lil bro and save yourself the headache

 

[FlourideGoyium]

Just use gh lil bro and save yourself the headache

It's so expensive bro

 

[FlourideGoyium]

thats great, some ppl hate on mk but it seems good especially if u didnt get much bloating ofc im gonna manage it and stay well hydrated

have u had symptoms of high blood sugar/insulin ressitance, did you check at all or were u chillin? did u take berberine?

I didn't check at all to be completely honest which was probably not a good idea.

 

[itsallgenesbtw]

To be completely honest there hasn't been too much change because I have only been on for two months, but mk definitely helped me put on a lot more mass than I normally would have (for context I'm a 6'3 150lb lanklet who has struggled putting on weight forever). Mk hasn't bloated me at all and also has the bonus of greatly improving my sleep.

Hgh on the other hand was incredibly expensive and hard to set up. It hasn't really done much (once again, its only been two months of usage), which is why I'm trying to switch to cjc + ipamorelin.

Long story short, my growth plates are still open, there have been little changes to my face and height (although I have only been cycling for two months), and mk and a low dose of var has definitely helped me mass significantly faster than before.

what was ur mk dose ?

 

[KingVamp]

To be completely honest there hasn't been too much change because I have only been on for two months, but mk definitely helped me put on a lot more mass than I normally would have (for context I'm a 6'3 150lb lanklet who has struggled putting on weight forever). Mk hasn't bloated me at all and also has the bonus of greatly improving my sleep.

Hgh on the other hand was incredibly expensive and hard to set up. It hasn't really done much (once again, its only been two months of usage), which is why I'm trying to switch to cjc + ipamorelin.

Long story short, my growth plates are still open, there have been little changes to my face and height (although I have only been cycling for two months), and mk and a low dose of var has definitely helped me mass significantly faster than before.

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[FlourideGoyium]

what was ur mk dose ?

20 mg daily

 

[FlourideGoyium]

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[Wasting_my_life]

If I see another thread about a 16 yo getting on peptides to grow taller I will kill myself

 

[FlourideGoyium]

If I see another thread about a 16 yo getting on peptides to grow taller I will kill myself

lmao

 

[Midasw]

with DAC, anyone who says otherwise doesnt know what a PUBMED is

 

[Mumlaa]

with DAC, anyone who says otherwise doesnt know what a PUBMED is

yeah dac is better its elevates gh much more and you only inject it once a week then with no dac you inject 3-4 times a day and the gh is not elevated that much. but dac is also risky as it can close growth plates faster if not controled estrogen main reason. as gh elevated more than what body usually do it can do some harm also with insulin resistance or diabetes... so you have to be safe when taking cjc dac always control blood sugar fasted and blood work 3 weeks always.
i also like to do cjc dac 1mg once a week + mk677 15-20mg everyday. this will release very high level of growth hormone.

 

[cyrillic]

I'm sixteen have cycled var, mk, and little bit of hgh for about two months but hgh is more expensive than I thought. I've been seeing a lot of talk about cjc-1295 + ipamorelin being the poor man's hgh and think I'm going to swap to it because of the price. I'm just unsure whether or not to run cjc dac or no dac. From what I understand (I'm not an iqcel I have a pretty surface level understanding of these compounds so I probably I have poor understanding of what they do) dac produces more igf-1 but speeds up the process of growth plate closure, essentially negating the height growth you would have gotten.

Just wondering what the consensus is here. Also if anyone else has pinned these compounds it would be nice if you shared your experiences.

@org3cel.RR I heard you know a lot of pharmacology

Don’t do cjc at all cause it will only increase height velocity but not predicted height

 

[Midasw]

yeah dac is better its elevates gh much more and you only inject it once a week then with no dac you inject 3-4 times a day and the gh is not elevated that much. but dac is also risky as it can close growth plates faster if not controled estrogen main reason. as gh elevated more than what body usually do it can do some harm also with insulin resistance or diabetes... so you have to be safe when taking cjc dac always control blood sugar fasted and blood work 3 weeks always.
i also like to do cjc dac 1mg once a week + mk677 15-20mg everyday. this will release very high level of growth hormone.

yeah im on cycle too so im running at 5, 2.5 5.. mg of aromasin anyways, my e should be fine,

i also agree that Dac is better, studies show that the gh pulse activity remains exactly the same with same frequency, duration and amplitude, so CJC dac doesnt effect that at, which is what most people list as their reason to use no dac JFL

for a direct growth hornone spiker i prefer ipamorelin over mk677 as it doesnt make me as fucking hungry, mk gave me literal painfull hunger, too much ghrelin like activity imo

and for insulin resistance i agree completely, i walk, do cardio, and always take fiber with my carbs so j should be fine

 

[Midasw]

Don’t do cjc at all cause it will only increase height velocity but not predicted height

not enough studies to say what it does either way, especially for DAC (one mice study) so its a good thing to experiment with especially at older ages

another predicted benefit of a secretagogue over straight HGH is better selectivity, so the brain making the actual proper proteins related to the gh instead of just a bunch of systemic GH growing organs and such.

main reason im taming CJC/DAC is that its mostly untested waters with unknown potential, who knows maybe its better than actual HGH, one user on here reported like 8 IUs of GH after his bloods, so thats awesome


@Mumlaa

 

[cyrillic]

not enough studies to say what it does either way, especially for DAC (one mice study) so its a good thing to experiment with especially at older ages

another predicted benefit of a secretagogue over straight HGH is better selectivity, so the brain making the actual proper proteins related to the gh instead of just a bunch of systemic GH growing organs and such.

main reason im taming CJC/DAC is that its mostly untested waters with unknown potential, who knows maybe its better than actual HGH, one user on here reported like 8 IUs of GH after his bloods, so thats awesome


@Mumlaa

not enough studies to say what it does either way, especially for DAC (one mice study) so its a good thing to experiment with especially at older ages

another predicted benefit of a secretagogue over straight HGH is better selectivity, so the brain making the actual proper proteins related to the gh instead of just a bunch of systemic GH growing organs and such.

main reason im taming CJC/DAC is that its mostly untested waters with unknown potential, who knows maybe its better than actual HGH, one user on here reported like 8 IUs of GH after his bloods, so thats awesome


@Mumlaa

Aight bro I would personally not do it but if it’s js to test it out for the future go ahead

 

[Midasw]

Aight bro I would personally not do it but if it’s js to test it out for the future go ahead

i will report bidelt, weight, bf, muscle mass and height with measurements and facial gains in text, follow me i will update propably next month, 6 month is full completion and i will probably continue after that

 

[xombie]

i will report bidelt, weight, bf, muscle mass and height with measurements and facial gains in text, follow me i will update propably next month, 6 month is full completion and i will probably continue after that

how much would a cjc with dac cost and how long does a cycle need to be to actually see changes?
Im 17 and 6'2 but havent really grown in a bit so do u think i could still get some gains, especially in my facial bones maybe and frame?

 

[0 bone mass]

Stop coping with no DAC niggers. Plates don't close from hgh. Just rape your pituitary or rope

 

[Midasw]

how much would a cjc with dac cost and how long does a cycle need to be to actually see changes?
Im 17 and 6'2 but havent really grown in a bit so do u think i could still get some gains, especially in my facial bones maybe and frame?

75 dollars from sigma audley, thats enough for half a year, but i recommend also getting ipamorelin for 40.

cjc dac is under researched in both clinical and .org "studies" or case studies so its a self experiment to see how good it is, some report great amounts of gh on bloods but thats per person, im gonna run for 6 months and update on the effects

for dosages
200 mcg of ipamorelin before bed
2mg of CJC a week

tip: injecting 2mg of cjc might be hard depending on how much bac you ad to the file, i personally pin 1ml total, but 50 units per glute so you dont get a bump on the skin

if you dont wanna experiment, run hgh and get expected results, or if you want to run cjc for cheaper with unknown results

 

[FlourideGoyium]

Stop coping with no DAC niggers. Plates don't close from hgh. Just rape your pituitary or rope

After further reading you're probably right, I'm going to stick to hgh.

 

[Flowix]

I'm sixteen have cycled var, mk, and little bit of hgh for about two months but hgh is more expensive than I thought. I've been seeing a lot of talk about cjc-1295 + ipamorelin being the poor man's hgh and think I'm going to swap to it because of the price. I'm just unsure whether or not to run cjc dac or no dac. From what I understand (I'm not an iqcel I have a pretty surface level understanding of these compounds so I probably I have poor understanding of what they do) dac produces more igf-1 but speeds up the process of growth plate closure, essentially negating the height growth you would have gotten.

Just wondering what the consensus is here. Also if anyone else has pinned these compounds it would be nice if you shared your experiences.

@org3cel.RR I heard you know a lot of pharmacology

dac