"Clav is High IQ"

[zemult]

He's been using roids since 14(low IQ move) and is doing meth(low IQ move ofc, wtf dude). He claims he'll get double jaw surgery(debatably low IQ move) and leg lengthening surgery to go from 6'2 to 6'6(6'2 is already great height so gigalow IQ move). Not sure if he's trolling for views, or he really believes/did all this stuff. If he's not trolling, then that's not something any high IQ person would do.

He's the perfect height, he could have gotten the same physique natty within 5 years, and his face was already fairly good. IMO it's his cheeks that is the main issue. In some angles he looks pretty good, in some other angles he looks bloated and lacking definition.

However, he got clout and supposedly makes 7 figures. Pretty impressive for a guy his age.

But high IQ? Not really.

The problem is you're taking him saying that he's getting DJS and LL too literally. He's doing it purely to engagement bait, it gets everyone's attention including from the streamers that he's leeching off of. It served its purpose and was a relatively intelligent move to make. Do you really think he's going to get LL at 6'2 or DJS after the surgery has been "delayed" over half a year? Lol

Also I wouldn't say test at 14 is necessarily a low IQ move, it depends on what he was taking at the time. There's some truth in the fact that taking GH during puberty could increase bone mass and make you taller, but I am weary about the studies because there's some conflicting data on how much of an impact it actually makes. I also doubt he was knowingly taking it at the time for this intended reason, probably wasn't even aware about the black pill yet.

The meth on the other hand is entirely retarded, although from a couple clips I've seen, he claims that apparently he says "crystal meth" to ragebait people and it was actually something prescribed by his doctor JFL.

 

[Aroon]

I just think he's smart because he thinks pretty much only logically and seems to have a good amount of emotional intelligence. But I do agree that he is likely autistic or sum

 

[idnap]

His outlooks are black and white
Just because he thinks in a binary manner that forces a firm stance, doesn't mean it is correct or something to idolize
The truth in most areas of life are found in the gray, part of the gradient.

He's not that intelligent. He acts ND to play into his character of being learned/informed. So people like you or other normies, who'll associate his poor social skills with autism --> aspergers --> high IQ.. will start to take his word as truth.
Imagine a guy wearing glasses with slicked back hair in class said "well actually .... "
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Most normies would be less inclined to push back on whatever this nerd is about to say. He fulfils his trope and people don't question his arguments.
Similar to this.

The problem is ever since he started this, he's lost his ability to socialise . He forgot how to revert back. He's feeling trapped now in his ND personna
Similar to people following Covid lockdown, but this is much greater since it was actively intended
He's also lost motivation to try, now that he has accepted the penalties of being a social outcast.. This tunnel visioned retard is now relying on this short-lived abnormal career to support the abnormal behaviour he's created for it, not knowing it has cemented

People around him are giving him positive reinforcement, such as goys like Adin who call him chill
But it's only because they're surrounded 24/7 by turboNT influencers and by comparison he's got the personality of a potato. Different = Exciting, until it isn't...
This charade doesnt have any longevity. His "friendships" will die down when they'll eventually get bored of him + adin gets instructions to push a new agenda onto the youth

Also what he promotes to society has far more cons than pros:

You think LOOKSMAX is going to die out?

I've seen far too many people here say: It's just a meme trend that will fade out sooner or later. it's not gonna increase the demand for surgeries or some shit. You know the same way you place finding a partner as one of the highest (if not the highest) priorities in life? Well guess what...

looksmax.org

I personally never watch his content and you shouldn't too

Spoiler: Tags

@Diᴏgenes @yussimania @Reformed @OnlyWs @jordan.w0z

Adin isnt a goy grey

 

[zemult]

Also in regards to your post OP, I do think Clavicular is intelligent to a degree and well-spoken for his age, but he plays this persona that he's autistic but high IQ so therefore the "IQ pill is brutal" for any of these unintelligent subhumans. He also tries to pretend that all of his success was because of his intelligence, which JFL.

He might just not understand the fact that majority of his "ascension" was just him growing up and leaning out. But most likely, he knows but that's just part of his grift, sprinkled in with a bit of narcissism. No, you starting peptides when you were 14 was not the cause for your good bones, those were set in stone for you from the beginning. None of that bone smashing made any difference either. Facially he is not any different from any naturally born good looking dude lol

 

[greycel]

High fluid intelligence is what supports high crystalized intelligence. High fluid is what allows such large amounts of information to be encoded and then stored by increasing encoding efficiency, which then compounds to a larger store of information over time. High fluid also allows for more complex mental schemas of the information you have which also contributes to greater learning efficiency through leaps of insight, this then also compounds over time.

I appreciate this info, thanks for increasing my crystallized
But.. this doesn't answer it though. You're telling me ceiling for crystallised is higher with high fluid, but I'm saying how do you know his high crystallised is the result of high fluid
Also his crystallised IMO is not high. The average Med student stores 5x the amount of information he does, in the same duration of time
If this is the average person for a slightly above average qualification, then we're not near any bottlenecks where it is evident he benefits from a higher ceiling.

In regard to your second question, I in fact think it's the opposite. I think Clav's higher than average intelligence is what supports his ability to do those things. I think if he was stupider he would have made a lot more mistakes and wouldn't have progressed as fast as he did in such an unconventional career. He went from a forum star to the worldwide face of BP in like a year and some change.

He cannot not progress. He benefits from his mistakes
That's why it is unconventional. Influencers don't represent the average person. They are special enough to warrant attention. Somebody who builds an audience from this platform has even less to worry about
He just has to not do what is average + stay out of the extreme (illegal) zone, which he still couldn't manage to do (selling roids in uni, filming and uploading girl having sex without her knowing, etc)

You're too lenient with your assumptions

 

[Netanyahu]

goys like Adin

his mums jewish

 

[hypernormie]

I appreciate this info, thanks for increasing my crystallized
But.. this doesn't answer it though. You're telling me ceiling for crystallised is higher with high fluid, but I'm saying how do you know his high crystallised is the result of high fluid
Also his crystallised IMO is not high. The average Med student stores 5x the amount of information he does, in the same duration of time
If this is the average person for a slightly above average qualification, then we're not near any bottlenecks where it is evident he benefits from a higher ceiling.

I'm not sure what you mean by whether or not his high crystalized is a result of high fluid? They are correlated for the reasons I mentioned. They aren't perfectly correlated so all crystalized intelligence can't be explained by fluid intelligence but enough of it is to make probabilistic assumptions. It's very rare a person with average intelligence has as high crystalized intelligence as Clav displays.

He has very high crystalized intelligence for a non student and he is doing all this synthesizing without any formal study which is more indicative of above average intelligence imo. Also idk if using med students is the best example as these people don't represent anywhere near the average person. The average med student is likely scoring close to superior IQ or higher and many med students will are likely very superior or gifted intellectually. You can have a crystalized intelligence below a med student and still be far above average (not glazing med students but you get me.)

He cannot not progress. He benefits from his mistakes
That's why it is unconventional. Influencers don't represent the average person. They are special enough to warrant attention. Somebody who builds an audience from this platform has even less to worry about
He just has to not do what is average + stay out of the extreme (illegal) zone, which he still couldn't manage to do (selling roids in uni, filming and uploading girl having sex without her knowing, etc)

You're too lenient with your assumptions

Maybe I am but still I see his rise as more than luck which is how most streamers get famous. For most it's a genuine roll of the dice or they get put on. The reason I think intelligence had more to do with it than luck is how quickly he adapted to various setbacks and capitalized on them. It's all laid out, you can see his trajectory and how it led to where he is now and the type of decisions he made under uncertainty.

You do make a good point that his mistakes help him but I would reply with he hasn't made any catastrophic mistakes and has converted his mistakes quite well.

You are kind of giving credence to his intelligence by laying out all the documented risks he was able to take and get away with. High IQ isn't correlated to following rules, in fact it's correlated with a higher tendency to break them. What's more correlated with low IQ is getting caught for breaking rules, not necessarily criminal behavior in and of itself.

I'm not saying this was some genius set of plays by Clav, I don't think he's a genius but again the contention is not whether or not Clav is the next Von Nuemann, it's with whether or not he is high IQ.

High IQ starts imo at 120, that's 1 in 11-12 people. It's not like this is some extremely rare classification.

 

[TiktokUser]

selling roids in uni, filming and uploading girl having sex without her knowing, etc

Is there any actual proof of any of this

 

[greycel]

Is there any actual proof of any of this

There was for the latter.. he posted a girl sucking him off once here, and he recorded her mid blowjob. Admitted she didn't know
He also posted proof of him taking roids at uni & getting kicked out for that.
I've heard he used to distribute them, but that I can't verify

He deleted all of this by the way. A few months back he went through every post to clear all the negative ones

 

[TiktokUser]

There was for the latter.. he posted a girl sucking him off once here, and he recorded her mid blowjob. Admitted she didn't know
He also posted proof of him taking roids at uni & getting kicked out for that.
I've heard he used to distribute them, but that I can't verify

He deleted all of this by the way. A few months back he went through every post to clear all the negative ones

tbh I actually do remember the story about him supposedly showing a girl sucking him off. Someone made a thread about it and posted the link, but I couldn’t click on it because I didn’t have an account at the time or something.

I don't think he ever distributed steroids at his college though. I'm actually mirin his low inhib