clav lowk got ideal natty physique

I would be curious to know what you would consider a good goal physique and in how much time is it achievable, and if natty or not because I think that with better insertions he would physique mog 99.9% of people, I don’t know a single dude who gets closer
as in within 2 years of natty dedication ive basically achieved his current physique which is roided, although being 6ft. my end goal physique which may sound pretty unrealistic currently is jeff seid, this may take another 3 years i already have 22.5inch bidelt and ive only just started prioritising shoulders and my shoulder to waist ratio is 1.71
 
Hes looked good recently but not even close still,pectatus excatum which seems to be the reason for the chest incertions look,underdeveloped shoulders and lower abs and ovr lower core,short bicep incertion,a bit uneven abs etc
 
Hes looked good recently but not even close still,pectatus excatum which seems to be the reason for the chest incertions look,underdeveloped shoulders and lower abs and ovr lower core,short bicep incertion,a bit uneven abs etc
that's the best he can reach, putting on more mass wont fix these problems
 
that's the best he can reach, putting on more mass wont fix these problems
Sure,doesnt make it closer to ideal tho

90% of what makes a physique good or not are unchangable factors like incertions,clavicles,torso length etc

And he could still do a bit by getting a tiny bit of extra shoulder mass and traning his core and then lose like just 1-2lbs of fat
 
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He started test at 14 u retard
Imagine believing that
 

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