***Clavicle lengthening/Hip reduction experts***? Subhuman Frame: Every failo to a severe degree

[WonkyChin186]

6'3" / 190.5cm
17.75" bidelt

Which would benefit me more? how much are they? how much can I gain or lose from each surgery etc

my hips are completely lean too btw, it's pure bone

 

[Buterman]

can’t say if you need before you roid and gymmax

 

[ReccesedSlavic]

Holy fucking chud build

 

[BM7]

you are fat. lose this fat around your belly, isnt hip bones.

 

[Tealovingfool]

Holy fucking chud build

Yeah but hes 6'3 so hes sweet anyway

 

[StyIix]

6'3" / 190.5cm
17.75" bidelt

Which would benefit me more? how much are they? how much can I gain or lose from each surgery etc

my hips are completely lean too btw, it's pure bone

6’3 chud

 

[CkldPsycho]

you need a workout, not surgery

 

[MogulThug]

you definitely need to start lifting, I thought I had wide hips too when I was younger but once I did my first cut I realized that it was fat on my hips and not bone. I had similar proportions as you before I started lifting, and now I have a normal looking physique structure wise. Also you're 6'3" so don't fret.

 

[key]

There was a boy in my school who was built exactly like you. Turns out he had klinefelter syndrome.

 

[India lover 52]

6'3" / 190.5cm
17.75" bidelt

Which would benefit me more? how much are they? how much can I gain or lose from each surgery etc

my hips are completely lean too btw, it's pure bone

holy shit you actually have the perfect female hourglass build just become a femboy atp

 

[Ascension75]

Only steroids can save you. And even then a clavicle widening may be beneficial but wait for the method with the gradual lengthening over an external device becomes more popular. This allows for 3cm on each side whereas the other method is just 1.5cm on each side, barely worth it.

 

[birthdefect]

6'3" / 190.5cm
17.75" bidelt

Which would benefit me more? how much are they? how much can I gain or lose from each surgery etc

my hips are completely lean too btw, it's pure bone

klinefelters?

 

[WonkyChin186]

you are fat. lose this fat around your belly, isnt hip bones.

reread

its PURE bone

i used to b 14%bf at 10kg lighter and the hips looked WAY worse

 

[WonkyChin186]

There was a boy in my school who was built exactly like you. Turns out he had klinefelter syndrome.

ion have it

 

[WonkyChin186]

klinefelters?

na

 

[birthdefect]

na

hop on e2 and hit me up i guess
what can one even do in this situation

 

[WonkyChin186]

you definitely need to start lifting, I thought I had wide hips too when I was younger but once I did my first cut I realized that it was fat on my hips and not bone. I had similar proportions as you before I started lifting, and now I have a normal looking physique structure wise. Also you're 6'3" so don't fret.

no.

i have already said

its PURE bone

My waist I can grab fat off my hips are pure 1000% bone

 

[Foreverbrad]

Only steroids can save you. And even then a clavicle widening may be beneficial but wait for the method with the gradual lengthening over an external device becomes more popular. This allows for 3cm on each side whereas the other method is just 1.5cm on each side, barely worth it.

This is not guaranteed to work, I had to give up on my clavicle lengthening dreams due to nerve tension, DO won’t change that.

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

The Hip pill is absolutely brutal with this poor boy

 

[taylorhillfanatic]

just spam lateral raise machine lol your already 6 3 and you need to get leaner your not the leanest you can be .

 

[Ergogenic]

6'3" / 190.5cm
17.75" bidelt

Which would benefit me more? how much are they? how much can I gain or lose from each surgery etc

my hips are completely lean too btw, it's pure bone

You are visibly 25 percent body fat. This makes you obese for a male by definition. Get down to 8 to 12 percent body fat, and you will look much better. After you get down to that body fat percentage, you can start an energy or kilocalorie surplus (bulking).

 

[Gilly998]

cut that long ass hair off man, its absolutely not doing you any favours, I used to have my hair long like that too its truly a big mistake

regarding clavicle lengthening its one of the highest risk cosmetic bone procedures you can do, much more so risky than even limb lengthening, let that sink in before considering, you risk throwing your shoulder, scapular angle, rotator cuffs and arm dynamics all extremely out of wack by doing clavicle lengthening and would risk it being too painful or unnatural to go to the gym properly

if your aim is to be a weak man with permanently painful injured arms that cannot continue going to the gym for some extra inches on your clavicles then go ahead

soft tissues doesnt adapt like bone your arm will be destroyed with a 0.4–0.8 inches added to your bideltoid at best, if they go beyond 12mm theyre literally a unethical butcher trying to disable you

totally not worth it, logically you should drop your thought of doing this procedure immediately the ROI goes well beyond negative anyone willing to do it avoid at all costs

cosmetic clavicle lengthing and shortening exists and was invented as a surgery for mentally ill transvestites, avoid it completely

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

It's over.

@Panchitosbroncs can help you with his MTF guides.

 

[Ascension75]

This is not guaranteed to work, I had to give up on my clavicle lengthening dreams due to nerve tension, DO won’t change that.

Can you elobrate? Sounds like a specific issue of yours and not something that would be relevant for the average person

 

[foidslayer271_ig]

just train your shoulders

 

[Ascension75]

cut that long ass hair off man, its absolutely not doing you any favours, I used to have my hair long like that too its truly a big mistake

Not sure about that. His hair quality is decent and he overall has a very estrogenic look to him. Trying to make him more masculine with a shorter haircut won't do much for him.

Before cutting any hair, I would rather try to straighten it permanently and color it blonde. At this point he can already slay third world ethnics in Asia and latam.

The main issue with his hair is his narrow and long face. He looks like he needs jaw surgery and other stuff.

 

[Foreverbrad]

Can you elobrate? Sounds like a specific issue of yours and not something that would be relevant for the average person

Your nerves may not be long enough to accomodate an increased clavicle length and they can’t increase in length so it would result in permanent significant reduction shoulder ROM.

Try extending your arm out to one side. Hyperextend as much as possible with your palm facing up. Now tilt your head from side to side. If you feel a pulling sensation in your arm or hand while tilting your head away your nerves are too short.

 

[BM7]

reread

its PURE bone

i used to b 14%bf at 10kg lighter and the hips looked WAY worse

Its not, iqlet.

 

[Panchitosbroncs]

It's over.

@Panchitosbroncs can help you with his MTF guides.

He will need more than that bro

 

[Doctor Egor]

Try extending your arm out to one side. Hyperextend as much as possible with your palm facing up. Now tilt your head from side to side. If you feel a pulling sensation in your arm or hand while tilting your head away your nerves are too short.

0 sensation
i think im gonna hit russia for DO.

 

[Gilly998]

Not sure about that. His hair quality is decent and he overall has a very estrogenic look to him. Trying to make him more masculine with a shorter haircut won't do much for him.

Before cutting any hair, I would rather try to straighten it permanently and color it blonde. At this point he can already slay third world ethnics in Asia and latam.

The main issue with his hair is his narrow and long face. He looks like he needs jaw surgery and other stuff.

not saying to cut super short definitely not a buzz or fade, still leave a bit of length he just needs much shorter hair in general

that long messy mop of a hair flaring out to his shoulders is a woman repellant and makes people perceive you as grubby unkept and ND

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

cut that long ass hair off man, its absolutely not doing you any favours, I used to have my hair long like that too its truly a big mistake

regarding clavicle lengthening its one of the highest risk cosmetic bone procedures you can do, much more so risky than even limb lengthening, let that sink in before considering, you risk throwing your shoulder, scapular angle, rotator cuffs and arm dynamics all extremely out of wack by doing clavicle lengthening and would risk it being too painful or unnatural to go to the gym properly

if your aim is to be a weak man with permanently painful injured arms that cannot continue going to the gym for some extra inches on your clavicles then go ahead

soft tissues doesnt adapt like bone your arm will be destroyed with a 0.4–0.8 inches added to your bideltoid at best, if they go beyond 12mm theyre literally a unethical butcher trying to disable you

totally not worth it, logically you should drop your thought of doing this procedure immediately the ROI goes well beyond negative anyone willing to do it avoid at all costs

cosmetic clavicle lengthing and shortening exists and was invented as a surgery for mentally ill transvestites, avoid it completely

Damn can you provide some sources for those claims?

 

[FATPHOBIC]

Breedable build ngl. Just shoulder pad max, you're 6'3 and white so you'll be fine.

 

[WonkyChin186]

The Hip pill is absolutely brutal with this poor boy

lad

 

[WonkyChin186]

You are visibly 25 percent body fat. This makes you obese for a male by definition. Get down to 8 to 12 percent body fat, and you will look much better. After you get down to that body fat percentage, you can start an energy or kilocalorie surplus (bulking).

I'm like 19%

ur biased from estro frame and sub muscle inserts

 

[JohanBigBalle]

It's over.

@Panchitosbroncs can help you with his MTF guides.

6'3 MTF

gigatranny

 

[A_H0T_Wombat]

You might have klinefelters syndrome. Go get your fertility checked at the dcotors

 

[WonkyChin186]

Your nerves may not be long enough to accomodate an increased clavicle length and they can’t increase in length so it would result in permanent significant reduction shoulder ROM.

Try extending your arm out to one side. Hyperextend as much as possible with your palm facing up. Now tilt your head from side to side. If you feel a pulling sensation in your arm or hand while tilting your head away your nerves are too short.

i dont feel anything

idk if i do it rite