Clavicular does NOT need to do invasive surgeries (same for almost all htn+)

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The truth is that the number 1 looksmax is getting sub 10%, not to 10% bf.
In case of clav, he is young, his soft tissues are strong so getting under 10% bf would only increase his percieved bonemass and angularity.
(plus i would add light blue contacts):

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He is relatively lean, problem is he takes fucking oral minox which bloats him to another dimension. Happens to every single person on oral minox not even up for debate. Amiloride, eple etc does absolutely fuck all for it. If he stopped he would ascend.
 
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He is relatively lean, problem is he takes fucking oral minox which bloats him to another dimension. Happens to every single person on oral minox. Amiloride, eple etc does absolutely fuck all for it.
Happened to me on topical too, after I stopped, I looked way leaner despite gaining 6 kg
 
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He is relatively lean, problem is he takes fucking oral minox which bloats him to another dimension. Happens to every single person on oral minox not even up for debate. Amiloride, eple etc does absolutely fuck all for it. If he stopped he would ascend.
Happened to me on topical too, after I stopped, I looked way leaner despite gaining 6 kg
Is the oral bloat really that bad? I had people who said it was exaggerated, but now i feel like they were trying to descend me

How does topical compare to oral when it comes to bloating. is it even worth it if my brows are decently thick?
 
Is the oral bloat really that bad? I had people who said it was exaggerated, but now i feel like they were trying to descend me
I thought I didnโ€™t bloat for 2 years until I looked at older pics where I was higher bf yet more facially defined. Then I stopped.
How does topical compare to oral when it comes to bloating.
is it even worth it if my brows are decently thick?
No. Minox is just ass. After I made my initial minox bloat thread I saw countless threads of people discontinuing both oral and topical and de bloating majorly.
 
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I thought I didnโ€™t bloat for 2 years until I looked at older pics where I was higher bf yet more facially defined. Then I stopped.


No. Minox is just ass. After I made my initial minox bloat thread I saw countless threads of people discontinuing both oral and topical and de bloating majorly.
Damn, is there anything that you would recommend that isn't some bs cope oil?

I mainly want to get longer lashes, but im not too keen on obliterating my fatpads
 
Damn, is there anything that you would recommend that isn't some bs cope oil?

I mainly want to get longer lashes, but im not too keen on obliterating my fatpads
Honestly have no idea. I did it for lashes also. I canโ€™t be fucked anymore the options on the table are pretty shit. Fuck your fat pads or become a balloon. I chose none.

Maybe look into ghk-cu. I donโ€™t think anyone has tired to use it to grow lashes though.

IMO if you just dye them itโ€™s probably enough. Less about length and more about how dark they are I think.
 
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Honestly have no idea. I did it for lashes also. I canโ€™t be fucked anymore the options on the table are pretty shit. Fuck your fat pads or become a ballon. I chose none.

Maybe look into ghk-cu. I donโ€™t think anyone has tired to use it to grow lashes though.
Preciate the help

Im planning on looking more into peptides as a whole
 
Mirin. There are some great ones.
Do you feel like your botb guides cover enough or is it neccessary to do hours of research?

Yea, i've dyed both brows and lashes and thankfully im pretty blessed with the thickness and lenght of my brows atleast. The points u gain from darker brows is underated asf
 
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Do you feel like your botb guides cover enough or is it neccessary to do hours of research?
Mine cover the vast majority pretty well I think. You can ask if you need.

Worth looking into Cagrilintide which I didnโ€™t mention in the fat loss thread. Been using it the past weeks, mogs extremely hard.

5ARi thread I disagree with my conclusion that nattys should use Fin and only enhanced or if you still are losing hair use Dut. I believe Dut to be the universal best option.
 
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Mine cover the vast majority pretty well I think. You can ask if you need.

Worth looking into Cagrilintide which I didnโ€™t mention in the fat loss thread. Been using it the past weeks, mogs extremely hard.

5ARi thread I disagree with my conclusion that nattys should use Fin and only enhanced or if you still are losing hair use Dut. I believe Dut to be the universal best option.
Awesome, thanks again for all the help

If i have questions down the line, do u want me to reply to thread, pm or msg on dc if u have one?
 
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Get spine surgery, you can get taller that way.
 

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Damn, is there anything that you would recommend that isn't some bs cope oil?

I mainly want to get longer lashes, but im not too keen on obliterating my fatpads
There's an eyelash serum, but just as with minox, if you stop it, eyelashes will go back to original length

I tried minox and serum both on eyelashes, and serum was better


But I mainly used minox for eyebrows
 
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The point isn't what he needs to do though, once you reach htn (even mid to high mtn honestly) you don't need to do anything.
 
Preciate the help

Im planning on looking more into peptides as a whole
Mirin. There are some great ones.
Agree, feel like a lot of peptides are underated even here, used some of them, had great experiences

If you find legit sources and do it right, there's basically zero sides, and even if there are, they're not serious
 
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There's an eyelash serum, but just as with minox, if you stop it, eyelashes will go back to original length

I tried minox and serum both on eyelashes, and serum was better


But I mainly used minox for eyebrows
Agree, feel like a lot of peptides are underated even here, used some of them, had great experiences

If you find legit sources and do it right, there's basically zero sides, and even if there are, they're not serious
Can i pm you?

Got questions regarding sourcing and the lash stuff
 
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@BoredPrince Idk if u got the mention on my reply above
 
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