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What's in Bold is Clavicular's Response to Jack Neels questions.
[Start of Podcast]
Today's guest has redefined the meaning of self-improvement. I maximize all metrics of my life. I've just come to the conclusion based on anecdotes, based on numbers, that looks are the most important metric and it would be insane to not prioritize them. They began injecting testosterone at just 14 years old, claiming that natural puberty wasn't optimized for the modern world.
[Clavicular]
I started with 300 mg of testosterone, and I did that for a while up until I was 16. I'm 100% confident that I made the right decision in my life and I'm so glad that I look a little bit more mature.
[Neel]
Today at 19, he's garnered a massive audience online where he says that everything in life is determined by one thing.
welcome to the Jack Neil podcast. >> Thank you, sir. >> Clav, take me back to 14-year-old Braden. >> Mhm. What was the exact moment you decided that natural puberty wasn't enough?
Well, I have always had the mentality that if something is going to get you to your goals quicker, then why not go for it, right? So, when I was a kid, obviously I wasn't the most well-versed in pharmarmacology.
So, I didn't exactly know what I was doing, but I knew that it would help me get to the place I wanted to be uh at a lot more efficient rate. So, you know, skipping out on that just seemed ridiculous. I thought, why would I work out as a natural, take years to make the progress that I can make in months? It didn't make sense to me at all. I was never worried about side effects. I was just worried about progressing, right? So, that's kind of always been my mentality. I'm all or nothing with everything that I do. Uh, and I just I just needed to do it, you know?
>> Was there a specific moment that you remember where you were like, "Yeah, I'm just going to hop on testosterone like when you're 14."
um just really taking a look at uh you know what was possible and in terms of time frame I wanted to get to my goals as quickly as possible right because I always thought the idea of you know telling people you work out and talking about all this stuff but you're not big to be just kind of ridiculous it's like dude you know what are you actually getting after so I was like I'm going to get my physique going as quickly as possible I I do not care about side effects I don't care about any implications of uh oh this guy's using drugs like none of that [ __ ] really phased me. So, I just wanted to, you know, get to my goals as efficiently as possible.
>> So, your mom uh she competed as a bodybuilder and your dad uh lifts, works out. How did your parents react when you told them that you wanted to start taking testosterone? >>
Well, for a while, my parents would, you know, go through my room and find steroids often, confiscate them. So that'd be a bit of a burden because sometimes I'd have to go like a few weeks without injecting testosterone. Well, you know, they confiscated it. Um, so it was hard at first, but eventually they started to realize that there was nothing that they could do about it. I was always going to do whatever it takes. So, um, you know, once I had that realization, it got a little bit easier for everyone because, you know, they stopped confiscating it and kind of just chose to plead ignorance on everything I was doing in terms of my uh, pharmaceuticals. So that was kind of a tough thing to deal with at first, but it it got easier over the years.
>> So you were in you were a freshman at the time, >> correct? >> So freshman in high school. Were you playing any sports? Were you uh looking at any of your friends that had better physiques than you? Were you kind of looking at your parents' physique? Did they take testosterone? Like what kind of really led to the decision ultimately, you think? >>
That's a good question. I wouldn't even say it was influenced by anyone else. Um it was a purely logical decision um you know in in terms of looking at you know mechanisms of action uh and things of this nature like you know if I could you know increase this growth pathway by this means then I'm absolutely going to do it. I didn't really see people like David Leen think oh I want to be like this guy. Um I'm just like you know if this makes sense mechanistically then I'm going to do it. Like I'm a a hyperlogical guy. Um, so and I don't really get influenced by other people.
>> Did you read about it online? Like how did you find like how much test you should take, or did you buy it at that age?
>> So I spent a lot of time on bodybuilding forums growing up like bodybuilding.com, things like this. Uh, and I did a fair bit of research. Obviously I was, you know, not doing enough research at the time. There's things that I messed up. Um, but just going on forums was pretty much the main thing that got me into it at the start. I relied on a lot of popular resources like you know Derek more plates more dates uh to kind of accumulate the knowledge required for me to be able to take a a jump into this whole world of you know pharmaceuticals and steroids. Um so that took a little while for me to kind of nail things down but I would say that I kind of just got lucky at the start with me doing things the right way right because looking back um I didn't know what I was doing but somehow I just happened to get it right you know.
>> So how much did you take?
I started with 300 milligrams of testosterone and I did that for a while uh up until I was 16 and then I experimented with a couple of orals and finally when I was 17 uh I began to use master as well which is a DHT derivative because I started learning a little bit about puberty maxing. I would say that 16 and 17 is where I really start to to kind of correct myself and get things going in the right way with you know different growth hormone secrets and mechanisms that otherwise wouldn't have been optimized. So I started using things like aromatase inhibitors because estrogen a lot of people don't know men have estrogen it's required you know for a lot of things like sexual function uh but it could also cause your growth uh you know plates to close prematurely. So what I did was I took something called an aromatase inhibitor which prevents the conversion of testosterone into aromomasin. That way I would be able to grow for an extended period of time. Right? So things like that I didn't pick up on until I was a little bit older. So I just started off with the the steroids and the basic stuff and then I got into like really optimizing every single
mechanism possible uh at around 16 or 17. That's where the master came in because uh with it being a DHT derivative that was going to help with obviously some penile growth um you know a little bit of masculinization. So that was uh something that was used at the right time. After you know you turn 18 and your penis stops developing there's no reason to use DHT derivatives. Um but I kind of used it at the perfect time
Timestamp: 6:54
“Face Determines Everything!” Looksmaxer Exposes Ugly Truth About Success | Clavicular
[Start of Podcast]
Today's guest has redefined the meaning of self-improvement. I maximize all metrics of my life. I've just come to the conclusion based on anecdotes, based on numbers, that looks are the most important metric and it would be insane to not prioritize them. They began injecting testosterone at just 14 years old, claiming that natural puberty wasn't optimized for the modern world.
[Clavicular]
I started with 300 mg of testosterone, and I did that for a while up until I was 16. I'm 100% confident that I made the right decision in my life and I'm so glad that I look a little bit more mature.
[Neel]
Today at 19, he's garnered a massive audience online where he says that everything in life is determined by one thing.
welcome to the Jack Neil podcast. >> Thank you, sir. >> Clav, take me back to 14-year-old Braden. >> Mhm. What was the exact moment you decided that natural puberty wasn't enough?
Well, I have always had the mentality that if something is going to get you to your goals quicker, then why not go for it, right? So, when I was a kid, obviously I wasn't the most well-versed in pharmarmacology.
So, I didn't exactly know what I was doing, but I knew that it would help me get to the place I wanted to be uh at a lot more efficient rate. So, you know, skipping out on that just seemed ridiculous. I thought, why would I work out as a natural, take years to make the progress that I can make in months? It didn't make sense to me at all. I was never worried about side effects. I was just worried about progressing, right? So, that's kind of always been my mentality. I'm all or nothing with everything that I do. Uh, and I just I just needed to do it, you know?
>> Was there a specific moment that you remember where you were like, "Yeah, I'm just going to hop on testosterone like when you're 14."
um just really taking a look at uh you know what was possible and in terms of time frame I wanted to get to my goals as quickly as possible right because I always thought the idea of you know telling people you work out and talking about all this stuff but you're not big to be just kind of ridiculous it's like dude you know what are you actually getting after so I was like I'm going to get my physique going as quickly as possible I I do not care about side effects I don't care about any implications of uh oh this guy's using drugs like none of that [ __ ] really phased me. So, I just wanted to, you know, get to my goals as efficiently as possible.
>> So, your mom uh she competed as a bodybuilder and your dad uh lifts, works out. How did your parents react when you told them that you wanted to start taking testosterone? >>
Well, for a while, my parents would, you know, go through my room and find steroids often, confiscate them. So that'd be a bit of a burden because sometimes I'd have to go like a few weeks without injecting testosterone. Well, you know, they confiscated it. Um, so it was hard at first, but eventually they started to realize that there was nothing that they could do about it. I was always going to do whatever it takes. So, um, you know, once I had that realization, it got a little bit easier for everyone because, you know, they stopped confiscating it and kind of just chose to plead ignorance on everything I was doing in terms of my uh, pharmaceuticals. So that was kind of a tough thing to deal with at first, but it it got easier over the years.
>> So you were in you were a freshman at the time, >> correct? >> So freshman in high school. Were you playing any sports? Were you uh looking at any of your friends that had better physiques than you? Were you kind of looking at your parents' physique? Did they take testosterone? Like what kind of really led to the decision ultimately, you think? >>
That's a good question. I wouldn't even say it was influenced by anyone else. Um it was a purely logical decision um you know in in terms of looking at you know mechanisms of action uh and things of this nature like you know if I could you know increase this growth pathway by this means then I'm absolutely going to do it. I didn't really see people like David Leen think oh I want to be like this guy. Um I'm just like you know if this makes sense mechanistically then I'm going to do it. Like I'm a a hyperlogical guy. Um, so and I don't really get influenced by other people.
>> Did you read about it online? Like how did you find like how much test you should take, or did you buy it at that age?
>> So I spent a lot of time on bodybuilding forums growing up like bodybuilding.com, things like this. Uh, and I did a fair bit of research. Obviously I was, you know, not doing enough research at the time. There's things that I messed up. Um, but just going on forums was pretty much the main thing that got me into it at the start. I relied on a lot of popular resources like you know Derek more plates more dates uh to kind of accumulate the knowledge required for me to be able to take a a jump into this whole world of you know pharmaceuticals and steroids. Um so that took a little while for me to kind of nail things down but I would say that I kind of just got lucky at the start with me doing things the right way right because looking back um I didn't know what I was doing but somehow I just happened to get it right you know.
>> So how much did you take?
I started with 300 milligrams of testosterone and I did that for a while uh up until I was 16 and then I experimented with a couple of orals and finally when I was 17 uh I began to use master as well which is a DHT derivative because I started learning a little bit about puberty maxing. I would say that 16 and 17 is where I really start to to kind of correct myself and get things going in the right way with you know different growth hormone secrets and mechanisms that otherwise wouldn't have been optimized. So I started using things like aromatase inhibitors because estrogen a lot of people don't know men have estrogen it's required you know for a lot of things like sexual function uh but it could also cause your growth uh you know plates to close prematurely. So what I did was I took something called an aromatase inhibitor which prevents the conversion of testosterone into aromomasin. That way I would be able to grow for an extended period of time. Right? So things like that I didn't pick up on until I was a little bit older. So I just started off with the the steroids and the basic stuff and then I got into like really optimizing every single
mechanism possible uh at around 16 or 17. That's where the master came in because uh with it being a DHT derivative that was going to help with obviously some penile growth um you know a little bit of masculinization. So that was uh something that was used at the right time. After you know you turn 18 and your penis stops developing there's no reason to use DHT derivatives. Um but I kind of used it at the perfect time
Timestamp: 6:54
“Face Determines Everything!” Looksmaxer Exposes Ugly Truth About Success | Clavicular
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