Clubbing is brutal

[Deleted member 15556]

tinder always slows down after youve had it a while - but ive had success from it and my bodys not as good as yours

I had it for like 5 weeks and you face mog

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

I had it for like 5 weeks and you face mog

you havent seen my face have you?

Id argue yours is slightly better or atelast were matched- I am taller than you although I doubt its by enough to make or break you

 

[Madhate]

It never began. Not even 7 years of gymcelling can come close to saving me

I'd say normie if you include the good hairline, overall with body halo probably HTN, but with height back to normie SMV. Normies are invisible to women as sexual partnets, so yeah, you might have some chances with less hypergamous women if you arent in the west

 

[Deleted member 15556]

I'd say normie if you include the good hairline, overall with body halo probably HTN, but with height back to normie SMV. Normies are invisible to women as sexual partnets, so yeah, you might have some chances with less hypergamous women if you arent in the west

Why do I do way better on tinder than club?
I saw plenty of normies I mog with girls or getting iois. Plus tbh I didn’t approach any girls.

Why do girls compliment my looks all the time if I’m normie? And my hairline is actually shit so idk what you’re talking about. I’ve had nights where I get many iois and girls approaching me.

Maybe they could smell my lack of abundance mindset and that I wasn’t on my purpose.

 

[Ricochet]

Clubs or hook up bars only Sun-Thurs. NOT FRIDAYS OR SATURDAYS. Too much competition on weekends.

 

[Deleted member 15556]

Clubs or hook up bars only Sun-Thurs. NOT FRIDAYS OR SATURDAYS. Too much competition on weekends.

Chad gets iois any day of the week though.


Also when I left club I caught my reflection in a car window and I was looking gaunt. Popping high cheekbones, lean jaw, hollow cheeks. Plus my canthal tilt is neautral/slightly positive and my pfl and upper and lower eyelid exposure are good. My eyebrows are positively titled and thick and a good height too. Plus I am very gymcelled. I’m sure I look decent. Maybe this planet is broken.


Am I delusional if I think I didn’t see a single guy who mogged me in terms of aesthetic

 

[thereallegend]

My hair is like that fringe stuff because I took the pic after a run where I wore a hoodie.
Legit I have MMA training too and was ready to murder someone.

Tinder ran dry stopped getting likes so I deleted it 2 days ago. And like I mentioned in thread girls were leaving in delivered and airing and blocking and ghosting and not replying to good lines. Even coming over and no sex. And overall just spinning my head. Fuck getting girls with body halo.

She didn’t even give me eye contact even though I tried to establish it. Why should I bother begging for her.

They still see ur face and frame and body

For a white normie like you, you'll probably be forced into LTRs in order to get intimacy.

Either that or geomax

 

[Enfant terrible]

imagine this guy steps into your club
its over

 

[Deleted member 17997]

Low inhibition mogs me going to a club

 

[Deleted member 15556]

For a white normie like you, you'll probably be forced into LTRs in order to get intimacy.

Either that or geomax

All my slays have been hookups. And I’ve turned many girls down because of my Schitz or I’m back on my religion. Plus I delete a lot of girls who I don’t have the energy to pursue further. And I’m not even white.

 

[Deleted member 16944]

Girls don't hate you man. I used to think this way but it's just not the case. Invisible to some of them yes, but hate is far too dramatic a word to use

 

[Deleted member 12002]

She didn’t even give me eye contact even though I tried to establish it. Why should I bother begging for her.

Ok then. You don't need to beg. Impose on her a little then, if that's the case. It's a bit of an art that's foundation lays in every man's nature. Don't crassly bother her like you already know you're gonna get rejected with an obvious end goal of showing that you don't care. That's gay. Just toy with her with a spirit of aloofness, but be abrupt at first.

 

[.👽.]

face below average, height below average. What else did you expect in clubs? Gotta stay realistic.

Eye area in particular looks kinda unappealing. Haircut comes off as too tryhard, an ethnic whos trying hard to look like a tiktok eboy, which just doesnt suit most ethnics. You probably should try styling the hair back or something like that, that fringe haircut looks out of place on you.

Textbook example why gymceling is cope. A tall HTN with normal (non-gymceled) physique would have no problems in clubs.

Also JFL @ foids not fearing the consequences of pushing a fully gymceled guy. Cause they know there will be no consequences. They are surrounded by dozens of white-knights in clubs.

how is he below average?

 

[BearBoy]

Have you tried with beard?

 

[Deleted member 12002]

Girls don't hate you man. I used to think this way but it's just not the case. Invisible to some of them yes, but hate is far too dramatic a word to use

No, but it's extremely feasible that a girl could hate the thought of you trying to talk to her.

Put yourself in their shoes. You're out at some venue and you notice some nervous little dweeb is waiting for an opportunity to say something to you.

 

[jessexxxx]

Yo

I’m 5’9 I thought I look okay but in clubs I am completely invisible. If anything girls hate me. I had 1 girl who pushed me and I pushed her back and some white knights wanted to fight me. And another who mate I thought was giving me ioi and this girl straight up told me to go away, they don’t want me. Also this third girl was asking me to call my mate over while I was talking to her. She was a 6/10 at best. And when my mate did come over the one mate she came with (5/10) completely ignored me even though it was just us.


It’s truly over .


110 x 5 bench and still can’t get a ugly club thot.


This is a recent pic of me

You and me both brother

 

[Deleted member 15556]

Ok then. You don't need to beg. Impose on her a little then, if that's the case. It's a bit of an art that's foundation lays in every man's nature. Don't crassly bother her like you already know you're gonna get rejected with an obvious end goal of showing that you don't care. That's gay. Just toy with her with a spirit of aloofness, but be abrupt at first.

Extensive knowledge of the black pill has killed going out for me. I don’t have it in me to approach girls any more, even if I feel like they are giving me signs. I expect straight up eye fucking and smile which does happen but that’s very rare. It’s very bold move and requires high interest and the girl to be a bit of thot. Many girls in clubs unironically don’t wanna meet guys, even if they think ur Chad. I’ve had many positive reactions and met girls in my past when I was uglier and smaller but by being NT, legit just having fun. Now I be in the club neurotic, balancing on my lifts, thinking why even bother as a subchad. As for that girl she was legit clapped and I didn’t wanna risk my non existent self esteem at the time. And my mate that her freind told me to bring over I mog tbh. My tinder likes bury his into the dirt. But he’s NT. He had other girls show interest during the night too.

Have you tried with beard?

I used to have a beard. Actually used to get some decent iois but it felt dirty and was hard to maintain. Plus my jaw and cheekbones are decent so no reason to hide them.

No, but it's extremely feasible that a girl could hate the thought of you trying to talk to her.

Put yourself in their shoes. You're out at some venue and you notice some nervous little dweeb is waiting for an opportunity to say something to you.

Legit. I bet I looked out of place and awkward. Especially while dancing. Deffo had my pussy hunting goggles on too which is something girls, especially mates are adept at noticing. Looking back I did get a strong IOI when I was just stood on the wall near dancing area, minding my business, from a decent girl who was leaving at the time.

Yo

You and me both brother

It’s over for us

 

[Mewton]

Height and frame are insanely important in a club setting to not get mogged OP
At 5'9 its very easy to get mogged

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Your nose looks like my cock.

You need rhino ASAP. My nose was worse than yours pre-rhino and I was treated like rodent scum. I still need lefort before anyone treats me like a proper human though.

 

[Deleted member 12002]

Extensive knowledge of the black pill has killed going out for me. I don’t have it in me to approach girls any more, even if I feel like they are giving me signs. I expect straight up eye fucking and smile which does happen but that’s very rare. It’s very bold move and requires high interest and the girl to be a bit of thot. Many girls in clubs unironically don’t wanna meet guys, even if they think ur Chad. I’ve had many positive reactions and met girls in my past when I was uglier and smaller but by being NT, legit just having fun. Now I be in the club neurotic, balancing on my lifts, thinking why even bother as a subchad. As for that girl she was legit clapped and I didn’t wanna risk my non existent self esteem at the time. And my mate that her freind told me to bring over I mog tbh. My tinder likes bury his into the dirt. But he’s NT. He had other girls show interest during the night too.


I used to have a beard. Actually used to get some decent iois but it felt dirty and was hard to maintain. Plus my jaw and cheekbones are decent so no reason to hide them.

Legit. I bet I looked out of place and awkward. Especially while dancing. Deffo had my pussy hunting goggles on too which is something girls, especially mates are adept at noticing. Looking back I did get a strong IOI when I was just stood on the wall near dancing area, minding my business, from a decent girl who was leaving at the time.

It’s over for us

Club atmospheres suck anyways.

 

[Deleted member 4362]

face below average, height below average. What else did you expect in clubs? Gotta stay realistic.

Eye area in particular looks kinda unappealing. Haircut comes off as too tryhard, an ethnic whos trying hard to look like a tiktok eboy, which just doesnt suit most ethnics. You probably should try styling the hair back or something like that, that fringe haircut looks out of place on you.

Textbook example why gymceling is cope. A tall HTN with normal (non-gymceled) physique would have no problems in clubs.

Also JFL @ foids not fearing the consequences of pushing a fully gymceled guy. Cause they know there will be no consequences. They are surrounded by dozens of white-knights in clubs.

He’s not below average anything, literally normie af. If he posted about slaying your whole argument would do a 180

Uk is brutal bro

This is the real answer. The UK is just brutal af if you want a normal looking foid, OP DONT feel too bad incel rates are probably around 80% in UK, or at least 80% of men here have never fucked an average or above female

 

[Deleted member 15556]

You need rhino ASAP. My nose was worse than yours pre-rhino and I was treated like rodent scum. I still need lefort before anyone treats me like a proper human though.

Lifefuel. Yeah I’m very aware I need it. Just trying to get the money together. It’s such a hard falio, plus it makes me look deathnic.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Lifefuel. Yeah I’m very aware I need it. Just trying to get the money together. It’s such a hard falio, plus it makes me look deathnic.

FYI if you have underbite/recessed maxilla, get lefort 1 first. I got rhinoplasty before lefort and the lack of maxillary support caused my nose to start drooping again. I will most likely need a second rhinoplasty after lf1.

 

[Deleted member 15556]

FYI if you have underbite/recessed maxilla, get lefort 1 first. I got rhinoplasty before lefort and the lack of maxillary support caused my nose to start drooping again. I will most likely need a second rhinoplasty after lf1.

My LF1 will take like another 2 years. I can get a rhino this year, if my plans fall into place. Would you say it’s worth it to get one before and one after?

Send me a pm if you want we can discuss

 

[Deleted member 4362]

Lifefuel. Yeah I’m very aware I need it. Just trying to get the money together. It’s such a hard falio, plus it makes me look deathnic.

You’re not goodlooking enough and you’re not white enough, Anglos are pale people so unless you’re Chad ethnic it will be difficult.

I could see you getting girls if you played to a niche, but better to just take advantage of a rich country and dip than bother with uk foids, or at least go to a non super hypergamist environment (club) .

 

[Deleted member 15556]

You’re not goodlooking enough and you’re not white enough, Anglos are pale people so unless you’re Chad ethnic it will be difficult.

I could see you getting girls if you played to a niche, but better to just take advantage of a rich country and dip than bother with uk foids, or at least go to a non super hypergamist environment (club) .

I think if anything being a attractive non white gives you a slight halo as it’s more rare. Add in a gymcelled body and ur winning. It makes you stand out against the 10 other white chads. Call it cope.

Not GL or white enough for what? To pull club thots? I thought online was meant to be harder yet I was pulling with selfies. Plus I get iois during the day daily.

I think you overestimate how good you need to look here

 

[Deleted member 4362]

I think if anything being a attractive ethnic gives you a slight halo as it’s so rare. Add in a gymcelled body and ur winning. It makes you stand out against the 10 other white chads. Call it cope.

Not GL or white enough for what? To pull club thots? I thought online was meant to be harder yet I was pulling with selfies. Plus I get iois during the day daily.

I think you overestimate how good you need to look here

The only IOI is P in V & yes club thots are going to be hard for anyone except Chads. You realise outside of urban environments you’ll be auto rejected by most pale females? The English are a pale race, do you think they’re that way because the women selected a bunch of ethnic men?

 

[Deleted member 15556]

The only IOI is P in V & yes club thots are going to be hard for anyone except Chads. You realise outside of urban environments you’ll be auto rejected by most pale females? The English are a pale race, do you think they’re that way because the women selected a bunch of ethnic men?

I’ve put p in v of more than 10 girls from online in the last 12 months. All white. Not to mention I’ve rejected quite a few n it would be higher if I had any game.

In clubs I’ve danced/kissed a good amount of girls and even took one home before back in my younger days. Maybe it’s harder now.
Plus I know more ethnic looking dudes and SEAs who still get attention in clubs.

The importance you’re putting on race is vastly overemphasised.

 

[Deleted member 4362]

I’ve put p in v of more than 10 girls from online in the last 12 months. All white. Not to mention I’ve rejected quite a few n it would be higher if I had any game.

In clubs I’ve danced/kissed a good amount of girls and even took one home before back in my younger days. Maybe it’s harder now.
Plus I know more ethnic looking dudes and SEAs who still get attention in clubs.

The importance you’re putting on race is vastly overemphasised.

What city is this though? I said outside urban environments

 

[Paroxysm]

Clubbing as a short dude is suicide. It's a crowded dark space full of people. The only way to stand out is to be tall.

 

[Johanjohan]

Its because ur ethnic and not goodlooking u fucking retard, you look like an afghan refugee on roids

surprise surprise, another ethnic crying on this shit forum

 

[Johanjohan]

Its because ur ethnic and not goodlooking u fucking retard, you look like an afghan refugee on roids

surprise surprise, another ethnic crying on this shit forum

This shit forum man, its 90% ethnics and homosexuals coping
its like a joke at this point, im just laughing at every thread

 

[Dark Latino]

Drop your standards bro don't go for the hottest girls in the club I have to be honest but your face is just average like tons of people ,play the numbers game also fix that hair wtf

 

[Deleted member 15556]

Its because ur ethnic and not goodlooking u fucking retard, you look like an afghan refugee on roids

surprise surprise, another ethnic crying on this shit forum

Cope

This shit forum man, its 90% ethnics and homosexuals coping
its like a joke at this point, im just laughing at every thread

Male gaze.
Apart from nose. Slightly reccessed maxillla and assymetrical jaw I’d be top 1%.

Drop your standards bro don't go for the hottest girls in the club I have to be honest but your face is just average like tons of people ,play the numbers game also fix that hair wtf

That was after w run. It looks like the pic in black t shirt when I go out.

So the average guy has a strong lean jaw and protruding high cheekbones. A Neutral/pct and upwards sloping thick eyebrows. Plus clear skin.

Go outside.

 

[Johanjohan]

Cope

Male gaze.
Apart from nose. Slightly reccessed maxillla and assymetrical jaw I’d be top 1%.

That was after w run. It looks like the pic in black t shirt when I go out.

So the average guy has a strong lean jaw and protruding high cheekbones. A Neutral/pct and upwards sloping thick eyebrows. Plus clear skin.

Go outside.

Stop coping your face looks like average refugee I see and you expect to slay staceys

Delusional

 

[BearBoy]

Extensive knowledge of the black pill has killed going out for me. I don’t have it in me to approach girls any more, even if I feel like they are giving me signs. I expect straight up eye fucking and smile which does happen but that’s very rare. It’s very bold move and requires high interest and the girl to be a bit of thot. Many girls in clubs unironically don’t wanna meet guys, even if they think ur Chad. I’ve had many positive reactions and met girls in my past when I was uglier and smaller but by being NT, legit just having fun. Now I be in the club neurotic, balancing on my lifts, thinking why even bother as a subchad. As for that girl she was legit clapped and I didn’t wanna risk my non existent self esteem at the time. And my mate that her freind told me to bring over I mog tbh. My tinder likes bury his into the dirt. But he’s NT. He had other girls show interest during the night too.


I used to have a beard. Actually used to get some decent iois but it felt dirty and was hard to maintain. Plus my jaw and cheekbones are decent so no reason to hide them.

Legit. I bet I looked out of place and awkward. Especially while dancing. Deffo had my pussy hunting goggles on too which is something girls, especially mates are adept at noticing. Looking back I did get a strong IOI when I was just stood on the wall near dancing area, minding my business, from a decent girl who was leaving at the time.

It’s over for us

You got girls with beard yet ur crying about it hard to maintain i dont understand you

 

[Deleted member 15556]

You got girls with beard yet ur crying about it hard to maintain i dont understand you

I get more without.

 

[Truemaxxer]

you are a below average face and height wise

body is gymcelled so thats a plus but it wont matter that much in clubs since a tall normie makes u invisible

 

[Madhate]

In clubs height and frame matters most imo, people are drunk and don't pay attention to face (AS MUCH, they still do), compared to normally.

 

[Dark Latino]

So the average guy has a strong lean jaw and protruding high cheekbones. A Neutral/pct and upwards sloping thick eyebrows. Plus clear skin.

Go outside.

There is no point in arguing women decide if they like you or not ,if you think you are above average go for above average girls, how much you sucess you have with 7-10s will tell you where you stand

 

[Ascendant]

@Johanjohan @Truemaxxer absolutely correct. Dude is absolutely below average facially and obviously in terms of height. Especially average caucasian dudes of his age look better than him.

Jaw, hollow cheekbones dont help at all with the sub par, unappealing looking eye area + huge deathinc pheno.

Resessed maxilla, long midface and nose kinda seal the deal of looking way below average. His face looks very Casey Neistat maxxed.

In the west he is 100% looking below average facially and height too. Even most average arab and turk ethnics mog him really hard. Esp. in large cities there are just tons of average/above average looking men, there is no shortage of them in large cities.

Muscles/physique is only an amplifier of looks when the face is at least average or above average. On short ppl gymcelled physique is perceived as compensation for the manletism, it comes off as super tryharding. Similar to ugly ppl driving expensive convertible cars. Or men with short D driving expensive large cars. It is what it is, at least in the west.

 

[Deleted member 15556]

@Johanjohan @Truemaxxer absolutely correct. Dude is absolutely below average facially and obviously in terms of height. Especially average caucasian dudes of his age look better than him.

Jaw, hollow cheekbones dont help at all with the sub par, unappealing looking eye area + huge deathinc pheno.

Resessed maxilla, long midface and nose kinda seal the deal of looking way below average. His face looks very Casey Neistat maxxed.

In the west he is 100% looking below average facially and height too. Even most average arab and turk ethnics mog him really hard. Esp. in large cities there are just tons of average/above average looking men, there is no shortage of them in large cities.

Muscles/physique is only an amplifier of looks when the face is at least average or above average. On short ppl gymcelled physique is perceived as compensation for the manletism, it comes off as super tryharding. Similar to ugly ppl driving expensive convertible cars. Or men with short D driving expensive large cars. It is what it is, at least in the west.

cope. My eyes mog

 

[ShowerMaxxing]

I’ve been taking too many L’s recently. Even girls who were dtf off tinder (which I deleted 2 days ago) are airing my snaps or leaving me on delivered. At least 5 recently


Have I suddenly become subhuman

U don’t look like ur photos obv lol

 

[Ascendant]

cope. My eyes mog

you wouldnt be posting here if they did.

 

[Deleted member 15556]

U don’t look like ur photos obv lol

My photos aren’t frauded. Hoes just get bored and move onto the next.

you wouldnt be posting here if they did.

Are you actually blind

 

[tyronelite]

I love clubs I mainly go now for networking & building relationships with the club owners

 

[Deleted member 1507]

Most clubs are fucking dogshit anyway, you'll only meet trashy people there.
Imagine waiting for an hour outside in the cold so some retarded gorilla bouncer can decide whether you can go in or not, then have nigger music blasting, overpriced drinks, sticky floor because of everyone spilling their beer, all of that being surrounded by sluts and retards.

 

[Birdcell]

How did you get so lean .

 

[BeenLMSsinceMSN]

I’m 5’9 I thought I look okay but in clubs I am completely invisible. If anything girls hate me. I had 1 girl who pushed me and I pushed her back and some white knights wanted to fight me. And another who mate I thought was giving me ioi and this girl straight up told me to go away, they don’t want me. Also this third girl was asking me to call my mate over while I was talking to her. She was a 6/10 at best. And when my mate did come over the one mate she came with (5/10) completely ignored me even though it was just us.


It’s truly over .


110 x 5 bench and still can’t get a ugly club thot.


This is a recent pic of me

You know what the clubbing scene is like in the UK it’s brutal especially if you are non white , Were you one of the few non whites in there ? If so you know the answer as to why it was hard

 

[Deleted member 15556]

How did you get so lean .

6x week lifting
2/3x week cardio (30 mins)
1 x week football
2x week muay thai

And eat according to my appetite.
I have good metabolism

You know what the clubbing scene is like in the UK it’s brutal especially if you are non white , Were you one of the few non whites in there ? If so you know the answer as to why it was hard

Usually it’s not this brutal. There was about 25% non white