Cold approach comes off as thirsty to women

[Deleted member 19865]

I overheard a conversation between females recently, and they were complaining about dudes who approach them in public to hit on them. They called these dudes "thirsty" and desperate, and always turned them down.

Even when cold approach does work, it's probably going to be under one of these conditions:

• You are a chad and any strategy will work no matter how bad
• The woman is of low quality and willing to go around fucking random dudes

Cold approach is always touted as some great and effective strategy for picking up girls by PUAs, but the reality is that most women find men who approach random girls to be desperate and thirsty. Public perception of cold approach seems to be that it's something that only creepy and desperate dudes do, or something that's done by "fuckboys" who just want a one night stand. The irony is that there really is no other option if your social circles lack single women, since women use a passive dating strategy and online dating is a lost cause for all but maybe the top 20% of men.

 

[ascension]

If you don't have compatible women in your social group or workplace, then you're fucked.

 

[LiteralCaucasian]

they were complaining about dudes who approach them in public to hit on them. They called these dudes "thirsty" and desperate, and always turned them down.

Very interesting, I also unintentionally eavesdropped on a conglomeration of girls that were talking about such people as "tryhards".

You are a chad and any strategy will work no matter how bad

Especially online dating.

The irony is that there really is no other option if your social circles lack single women since women use a passive dating strategy and online dating is a lost cause for all but maybe the top 20% of men.

The irony is lost on them, it seems.

 

[Deleted member 19865]

I also unintentionally eavesdropped on a conglomeration of girls that were talking about such people as "tryhards".

How the fuck do women expect men to find a gf? They expect men to be confident and make the first move, yet if you do that then you're a creepy tryhard. By these standards, the only options are either warm approach or to become a top 1% chad who's irresistible to women and doesn't even have to approach at all.

 

[Deleted member 24348]

Very interesting, I also unintentionally eavesdropped on a conglomeration of girls that were talking about such people as "tryhards".

Especially online dating.

The irony is lost on them, it seems.

I overheard a conversation between females recently, and they were complaining about dudes who approach them in public to hit on them. They called these dudes "thirsty" and desperate, and always turned them down.

Even when cold approach does work, it's probably going to be under one of these conditions:

• You are a chad and any strategy will work no matter how bad
• The woman is of low quality and willing to go around fucking random dudes

Cold approach is always touted as some great and effective strategy for picking up girls by PUAs, but the reality is that most women find men who approach random girls to be desperate and thirsty. Public perception of cold approach seems to be that it's something that only creepy and desperate dudes do, or something that's done by "fuckboys" who just want a one night stand. The irony is that there really is no other option if your social circles lack single women, since women use a passive dating strategy and online dating is a lost cause for all but maybe the top 20% of men.

It's always done incorrectly. It takes time like casually chatting at a dog park 2-3-4 times, asking for instagram, grabbing a drink.
Going up to a random chick and asking for a drink/date is so cringe.

U can also just go sit a bar/club solo and do it their where it's acceptable.

But you could also say who the fuck cares, what the women think. If u look good enough 1/5-1/10 might be DTF

 

[Deleted member 24348]

If you don't have compatible women in your social group or workplace, then you're fucked.

This is fact. since OLD has an online tax of -2 -1 points. You are forced to approach, talk, join workout classes, and sit a bars/clubs solo to get a slice of ass. Its pretty ruthless

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

How the fuck do women expect men to find a gf? They expect men to be confident and make the first move, yet if you do that then you're a creepy tryhard. By these standards, the only options are either warm approach or to become a top 1% chad who's irresistible to women and doesn't even have to approach at all.

it should just happen naturally don't worry you will find the one

 

[BoneDensity]

I overheard a conversation between females recently, and they were complaining about dudes who approach them in public to hit on them.

This is the real blackpill. Every woman is getting approached CONSTANTLY while you're afraid to even do it once. No wonder you're falling behind...

 

[Deleted member 21340]

For subchads a social circle is your livelihood
Literally no other way to efficiently meet women if it isn't through mutual friends but even that's becoming increasingly more difficult with the rise of OLD/social media
You have to be low inhib and hyper nt otherwise you'll get left behind and forced to rot

 

[Deleted member 23778]

Over if you're a greycel with friends who are all married

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

It's always done incorrectly. It takes time like casually chatting at a dog park 2-3-4 times, asking for instagram, grabbing a drink.
Going up to a random chick and asking for a drink/date is so cringe.

U can also just go sit a bar/club solo and do it their where it's acceptable.

But you could also say who the fuck cares, what the women think. If u look good enough 1/5-1/10 might be DTF

good luck finding the same bitch 4 times at a dog park and even if you did you are so turbo committing at that point it's over. and after that what are the chances she's not trash? also you will need a dog and several months of going to dog parks to somehow chat "casually" like how is that not more forced than cold approach? truth is there is no winning unless you look good and go to a high school with several hqnp htb+

 

[Deleted member 24348]

For subchads a social circle is your livelihood
Literally no other way to efficiently meet women if it isn't through mutual friends but even that's becoming increasingly more difficult with the rise of OLD/social media
You have to be low inhib and hyper nt otherwise you'll get left behind and forced to rot

No you don't. Don't make guys think you need to be some top 10% NT/low inhib.

OLD/Social media is dead for most unless you count fucking LTBs.

Just be like top 50% inhib topt 50% personality, little above average and look good.

 

[Deleted member 19865]

It takes time like casually chatting at a dog park 2-3-4 times, asking for instagram, grabbing a drink.

If the reason of you talking to her is not organic, it's gonna come off as forced and uncanny.

This is the real blackpill. Every woman is getting approached CONSTANTLY while you're afraid to even do it once. No wonder you're falling behind...

Which is another reason not to cold approach. They are getting approached constantly, so your odds are even lower just by the sheer number of options they have. You're literally gonna have to be a chad who mogs all of their options just to succeed.

 

[Deleted member 21340]

No you don't. Don't make guys think you need to be some top 10% NT/low inhib.

OLD/Social media is dead for most unless you count fucking LTBs.

Just be like top 50% inhib topt 50% personality, little above average and look good.

just copy what i said and format it slightly differently theory
being top 50% inhib/personality (don't even know if thats quantifiable) won't get you anywhere

im referring to the average male here, not the "above average/ones that look good"
you have to be the centre of attention, the funny one, high agreeableness, low on neuroticism etc etc if you don't want to be invisible

 

[Deleted member 18879]

How the fuck do women expect men to find a gf? They expect men to be confident and make the first move, yet if you do that then you're a creepy tryhard. By these standards, the only options are either warm approach or to become a top 1% chad who's irresistible to women and doesn't even have to approach at all.

They don't care about men who cannot find GF's, they will say it's not their responsibility (they're right) and expect them to go back to wageslaving and playing games in their basement till they blow their brains out or OD at 30

 

[Deleted member 19865]

They don't care about men who cannot find GF's, they will say it's not their responsibility (they're right) and expect them to go back to wageslaving and playing games in their basement till they blow their brains out or OD at 30

Of course that's the reality. It's a non-issue to them, since the current dating market doesn't negatively impact women whatsoever, since their SMV is so inflated by it.

The disparity within the dating market is primarily the fault of simps, since it's simps who are overvaluing women and it's simps who are making the dating market so competitive.

 

[klip11]

I overheard a conversation between females recently, and they were complaining about dudes who approach them in public to hit on them. They called these dudes "thirsty" and desperate, and always turned them down.

Even when cold approach does work, it's probably going to be under one of these conditions:

• You are a chad and any strategy will work no matter how bad
• The woman is of low quality and willing to go around fucking random dudes

Cold approach is always touted as some great and effective strategy for picking up girls by PUAs, but the reality is that most women find men who approach random girls to be desperate and thirsty. Public perception of cold approach seems to be that it's something that only creepy and desperate dudes do, or something that's done by "fuckboys" who just want a one night stand. The irony is that there really is no other option if your social circles lack single women, since women use a passive dating strategy and online dating is a lost cause for all but maybe the top 20% of men.

Bottom line is that you have to take the risk and cold approach. You may not have the option of a social circle with attractive, single women. Your social circle might be only male friends, which is pointless if you're all straight. Online dating is oversaturated and it's mostly men on OLD sites. It's not like there's an equal proportion of men and women using OLD.

Basically, you have to cold approach if you don't want to be celibate

 

[klip11]

For subchads a social circle is your livelihood
Literally no other way to efficiently meet women if it isn't through mutual friends but even that's becoming increasingly more difficult with the rise of OLD/social media
You have to be low inhib and hyper nt otherwise you'll get left behind and forced to rot

Even with social circle, most men hang out with other men and most women hang out with women. And most men aren't going to go out of their way to help you get a girlfriend. They figure you should be able to do it on your own.

People who most advocate for social circle warm approach are assuming you have a social circle with multiple young, attractive single women in the group.

The most successful I ever was in getting laid was when I cold approached. Even if you’re good looking, women aren't typically going to approach a strange male in public to get a date.

 

[thereallegend]

It's always done incorrectly. It takes time like casually chatting at a dog park 2-3-4 times, asking for instagram, grabbing a drink.
Going up to a random chick and asking for a drink/date is so cringe.

U can also just go sit a bar/club solo and do it their where it's acceptable.

But you could also say who the fuck cares, what the women think. If u look good enough 1/5-1/10 might be DTF

This must be how @New Poster and @Afrikancel do it.
Be a top 10% man, be NT, initiate conversation, be a voice mogger, and know what you can get away with.

 

[klip11]

Which is another reason not to cold approach. They are getting approached constantly, so your odds are even lower just by the sheer number of options they have. You're literally gonna have to be a chad who mogs all of their options just to succeed.

I don't know if they're getting constantly approached. Most zoomers and younger millennial guys are too scared to cold approach nowadays

 

[Afrikancel]

This must be how @New Poster and @Afrikancel do it.
Be a top 10% man, be NT, initiate conversation, be a voice mogger, and know what you can get away with.

This is it. I know i can get away with things

Sometimes ill look at their boobs whilst talking to them and let them catch me looking

I know they know i know they know and we talk like nothing happened. Theyre not offended but rather they know that its game in ygm

 

[AchooWhalesAreBlue]

This is it. I know i can get away with things

Sometimes ill look at their boobs whilst talking to them and let them catch me looking

I know they know i know they know and we talk like nothing happened. Theyre not offended but rather they know that its game in ygm

You can't get away with anything Ruud you ugly abused dog

You couldn't even get away with a positive post to rep ratio on Bookism even when me, Josh, MVP and Kat were the only users

 

[Deleted member 21044]

Not if you're chad.

 

[Deleted member 20652]

Nah. Op is wrong about this

Ive had tons of success with cold approach.

Thing is you just gotta look good n be smooth n chilled out as fock.

Its natural to approach women

@rdsky
@decadouche57
@Alex MACHO


//MACHO BIKER GANG

 

[Deleted member 19865]

Nah. Op is wrong about this

Ive had tons of success with cold approach.

Thing is you just gotta look good n be smooth n chilled out as fock.

Its natural to approach women

@rdsky
@decadouche57
@Alex MACHO


//MACHO BIKER GANG

You are a chad and any strategy will work no matter how bad

Bottom line is that you have to take the risk and cold approach. You may not have the option of a social circle with attractive, single women. Your social circle might be only male friends, which is pointless if you're all straight. Online dating is oversaturated and it's mostly men on OLD sites. It's not like there's an equal proportion of men and women using OLD.

Basically, you have to cold approach if you don't want to be celibate

The issue is that unless you are very good looking, you will have to approach so many women that you'll end up ruining your reputation in whatever area you are approaching in. You'll end up being known as they guy who's constantly creeping on women.

 

[Afrikancel]

You can't get away with anything Ruud you ugly abused dog

You couldn't even get away with a positive post to rep ratio on Bookism even when me, Josh, MVP and Kat were the only users

? Ive never been on that site?

 

[AchooWhalesAreBlue]

? Ive never been on that site?

Consider yourself warned by the Lookism Megastar Council of Elders

 

[klip11]

The issue is that unless you are very good looking, you will have to approach so many women that you'll end up ruining your reputation in whatever area you are approaching in. You'll end up being known as they guy who's constantly creeping on women.

In a major city where people are anonymous, I don't think this is a problem. Even on a large university I don't think this will be a problem.

 

[Deleted member 21735]

approaching is futile anywya, i did it with my friend and neither of us got laid

 

[New Poster]

This must be how @New Poster and @Afrikancel do it.
Be a top 10% man, be NT, initiate conversation, be a voice mogger, and know what you can get away with.

I am in the top 10% and, yes, it's between 1/5 to 1/10 that are immediately dtf

 

[DharkDC]

You niggas must look like goblins or something. Haas anyone never met a bitch and piped first day?

 

[Deleted member 21340]

Even with social circle, most men hang out with other men and most women hang out with women. And most men aren't going to go out of their way to help you get a girlfriend. They figure you should be able to do it on your own.

People who most advocate for social circle warm approach are assuming you have a social circle with multiple young, attractive single women in the group.

The most successful I ever was in getting laid was when I cold approached. Even if you’re good looking, women aren't typically going to approach a strange male in public to get a date.

how would you go about cold approaching
ive literally never tried in my entire life

 

[klip11]

how would you go about cold approaching
ive literally never tried in my entire life

As Nike says: just do it

 

[forevergymcelling]

It's online slayer or rot!

 

[thereallegend]

It's online slayer or rot!

Autism

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Top 20% isn’t enough to do well online anymore- it used to be but not anymore

 

[Deleted member 19865]

Top 20% isn’t enough to do well online anymore- it used to be but not anymore

It really isn't unless you're willing to scrape the bottom of the barrel. Top 10% minimum at this point, and even then the results will still probably be far below looksmatch.

 

[FemaleGazeMaxxer]

The woman is of low quality and willing to go around fucking random dudes

thats literally the same with any other way of dating though

 

[Deleted member 19865]

thats literally the same with any other way of dating though

Not warm approach.

 

[FemaleGazeMaxxer]

Not warm approach.

warm approach is fucking worse because u cant do numbers game + if she rejects you, you get social consequences

 

[Deleted member 19865]

warm approach is fucking worse because u cant do numbers game + if she rejects you, you get social consequences

Yes, but with warm approach you only approach if you know she won't reject you. If it doesn't get to that point then you just work on your next warm approach.

Cold approach doesn't work for the vast majority of women if you're a normie. A lot of this is due to women perceiving it as desperate, thirsty, tryhard, etc. Another reason it's not a good option is because it's become so mainstream that women have become desensitized to it and will only respond positively if you're a chad. Ten years ago, cold approach was probably somewhat effective, as most dudes never did it, but now there's so many dudes cold approaching that most high quality women get approached constantly.

Another reason why cold approaching is not good is because the very effort of cold approaching inflates women's egos, making the dating market that much more competitive, and women that much more overvalued. Cold approaching is essentially a form of simping, as you're going out of your way to show desire for a female who you don't even know.

 

[Gus17]

I overheard a conversation between females recently, and they were complaining about dudes who approach them in public to hit on them. They called these dudes "thirsty" and desperate, and always turned them down.

Even when cold approach does work, it's probably going to be under one of these conditions:

• You are a chad and any strategy will work no matter how bad
• The woman is of low quality and willing to go around fucking random dudes

Cold approach is always touted as some great and effective strategy for picking up girls by PUAs, but the reality is that most women find men who approach random girls to be desperate and thirsty. Public perception of cold approach seems to be that it's something that only creepy and desperate dudes do, or something that's done by "fuckboys" who just want a one night stand. The irony is that there really is no other option if your social circles lack single women, since women use a passive dating strategy and online dating is a lost cause for all but maybe the top 20% of men.

True Jfl most women don't wanna interact with some random man. Having to go outside your social circle to date shows low social value.

 

[Ozsaraal]

I overheard a conversation between females recently, and they were complaining about dudes who approach them in public to hit on them. They called these dudes "thirsty" and desperate, and always turned them down.

Even when cold approach does work, it's probably going to be under one of these conditions:

• You are a chad and any strategy will work no matter how bad
• The woman is of low quality and willing to go around fucking random dudes

Cold approach is always touted as some great and effective strategy for picking up girls by PUAs, but the reality is that most women find men who approach random girls to be desperate and thirsty. Public perception of cold approach seems to be that it's something that only creepy and desperate dudes do, or something that's done by "fuckboys" who just want a one night stand. The irony is that there really is no other option if your social circles lack single women, since women use a passive dating strategy and online dating is a lost cause for all but maybe the top 20% of men.

I'll adjust to your second dot point that it's not just low value women but very very low value hideous women

And yea it's shit I'd there are no women in social circles

Girls have a social circles that is less stagnant so they would meet way more people because of this they don't have an appreciation for a guys lack of selection of chicks in there social circle and see it as weird if you try

The thing is if you try it's always going to look bad these things through the lens of NT people should happen sort of naturally, and like you said that the irony is that generally it can't happen naturally

I've never liked the idea of cold approaching anyway cause I think it gives the game away and that's why I think itl generally will never really wok

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

warm approach is fucking worse because u cant do numbers game + if she rejects you, you get social consequences

I don't like people calling social circle game "warm approach". if you're doing it right you'll never get rejected doing social circle game because you will 1. attract most holes 2. you will know if it's a go, hell she may even offer you use of her holes. no "approaching" involved.

always considered warm approach to be basically cold approach but with IOIs or some familiarity. could just be you've seen each other a couple times, maybe exchanged a word or two, or you looked at her and she smiled. or she's eye fucking you

 

[_MVP_]

Yes , they come off as beggars

 

[Deleted member 22918]

 

[Deleted member 24348]

I'll adjust to your second dot point that it's not just low value women but very very low value hideous women

And yea it's shit I'd there are no women in social circles

Girls have a social circles that is less stagnant so they would meet way more people because of this they don't have an appreciation for a guys lack of selection of chicks in there social circle and see it as weird if you try

The thing is if you try it's always going to look bad these things through the lens of NT people should happen sort of naturally, and like you said that the irony is that generally it can't happen naturally

I've never liked the idea of cold approaching anyway cause I think it gives the game away and that's why I think itl generally will never really wok

This might be 100% legit. My serioues FwB approach was with a rock bottom status LTB with a great ass. Lived with parents. She came over that night after my approach and chaced me for 6 months. Her status was prob bottom 5%. 9/10 chicks around my apt complex, don't even glance at stangers, they have huge social lives/work collagues/friends...etc. and Would never consider a stranger.

 

[traveler]

cold approach is legit for ethnic males trying to entice white women

go to mall and see the white women walk away from her white bf

go up and approach to get number

see the beta cuck bf come back and u say hello wit ha smirk and walk off

start putting ideas in her head that her bf is insecure and a loser

hang out fuck and call her a white slut while fucking in doggystyle

 

[Ozsaraal]

This might be 100% legit. My serioues FwB approach was with a rock bottom status LTB with a great ass. Lived with parents. She came over that night after my approach and chaced me for 6 months. Her status was prob bottom 5%. 9/10 chicks around my apt complex, don't even glance at stangers, they have huge social lives/work collagues/friends...etc. and Would never consider a stranger.

Yea the 9/10 lives are through a perspective of the inside looking in ( in there bubble world) for us it's the outside looking in we see people we know and strangers and everything, they just see themselves they have total security from feelings of awkwardness high inhibition etc cause there group

Which is why it's easy for them to judge but there not running the same race

Was that bottom 5 % girl still tolerable cause her ass would you fuck her and just grind through

 

[Deleted member 24348]

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