Cold approaching is bullshit, anyone pushing it has to have their ribs broken in

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Been cold approaching for ages and it has like 5% success rate.

Yeah, so awesome to randomly chat with 20-30 women just to MAYBE get laid with 1.

Anyone who thinks women will reward you for being "confident" is retarded.

If anything some popular Insta guys will get more chance by showing their lives actually matter instead of some random "brave" cold approacher outcast.

Normies don't do cold approach in 2021. It is easy as shit to get phone numbers, because most girls dont want to be rude, but at the end of the day they don't convert into shit.

You literally have to be at least nationally famous.



I'm not an incel, I get laid, had gfs, go on dates. But it's like pulling teeth with this cold approach shit. I really need to statusmaxx within next 5 years

 

[Essonerian]

laid ? what kind of whores are you aiming for ?

you cold approach so that you can go out later, its not supposed to second before 2nd or 3rd date (if that even happens)

you expected her to open her legs right there ? keep those skanks

 

[Deleted member 14157]

Been cold approaching for ages and it has like 5% success rate.

Yeah, so awesome to randomly chat with 20-30 women just to MAYBE get laid with 1.

Anyone who thinks women will reward you for being "confident" is retarded.

If anything some popular Insta guys will get more chance by showing their lives actually matter instead of some random "brave" cold approacher outcast.

Normies don't do cold approach in 2021. It is easy as shit to get phone numbers, because most girls dont want to be rude, but at the end of the day they don't convert into shit.

You literally have to be at least nationally famous.



I'm not an incel, I get laid, had gfs, go on dates. But it's like pulling teeth with this cold approach shit. I really need to statusmaxx within next 5 years

bro its all about building natural connections

 

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laid ? what kind of whores are you aiming for ?

Any. Can't date overly ugly or fat chicks. I will always approach hot women, always. But if she has one thing I like about her, let's say she is 6.5+ in my book, I will approach her.

For LTRs I've been with 8s, but it took a shit load of approaches to get them. Not worth it imo

you cold approach so that you can go out later, its not supposed to second before 2nd or 3rd date (if that even happens)

yeah, I know. No, I mean if I go out with them they usually like me, must most women will ghost you after giving number or leave you on read or something

bro its all about building natural connections

Social circle game is lame, since you are stuck with ugly bitches in your circle. And now during covid its harder.

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

I feel you boyo. if there was a way to cold approach without coming across as a fucking weirdo that'd be nice but I haven't found it yet

@eduardkoopman

 

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I feel you boyo. if there was a way to cold approach without coming across as a fucking weirdo that'd be nice but I haven't found it yet

@eduardkoopman

I think it's not even about coming across as weirdo.

I think the main problem is even if you are socially calibrated there is just not enough time to get to know a random woman on street for her to feel attracted.

It will work on ugly chicks, but why would some hot woman even recall a random guy she talked with for 2 minutes on street?

My best cold approaches have been where I escorted the girl a few blocks and got to know her a bit more. If she talks with me only a little bit, I know I will get ghosted.

 

[thereallegend]

So you're strategy is to social media maxx?

 

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So you're strategy is to social media maxx?

I have to figure out something.

I don't really have any specific redeeming qualities for social media maxxing other than being relatively fit (and plan on becoming more RTT in fall). But that is not enough to stand out in a major way.

Any retard can register social media. If you ain't featured in to gossip mags, whats the point?

 

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Oh by the way, this is what "PUA's" will never tell you.

They will show a "footage" of a dude like me approaching random girls and getting numbers and call it a day.

What they don't show you is that these girls rarely if ever reply to your texts or just leave you on read 99% of the time.

 

[Deleted member 13409]

Cold approach and most PUA schemes are just dumb in general. The only place it works is in places where girls literally come to get hit on like bars or clubs. Asking some girl in the middle of the street for her number is creepy and more than that just simply annoying. She’s probably thinking about how she’s going to get home in time to cook dinner or is trying to rush back to work on her lunch break and some swamp creature walks up and says “you’re beautiful… can I have your number”

 

[thereallegend]

Cold approach and most PUA schemes are just dumb in general. The only place it works is in places where girls literally come to get hit on like bars or clubs. Asking some girl in the middle of the street for her number is creepy and more than that just simply annoying. She’s probably thinking about how she’s going to get home in time to cook dinner or is trying to rush back to work on her lunch break and some swamp creature walks up and says “you’re beautiful… can I have your number”

Girls don't even go to bars or clubs to be hit on anymore. Unless you're Chad or Tyrone, women go clubbing to have fun with friends.

 

[thereallegend]

I have to figure out something.

I don't really have any specific redeeming qualities for social media maxxing other than being relatively fit (and plan on becoming more RTT in fall). But that is not enough to stand out in a major way.

Any retard can register social media. If you ain't featured in to gossip mags, whats the point?

I agree with your take here. I believe social circles outweigh social media. But you did already call that "lame".

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

I think it's not even about coming across as weirdo.

I think the main problem is even if you are socially calibrated there is just not enough time to get to know a random woman on street for her to feel attracted.

It will work on ugly chicks, but why would some hot woman even recall a random guy she talked with for 2 minutes on street?

My best cold approaches have been where I escorted the girl a few blocks and got to know her a bit more. If she talks with me only a little bit, I know I will get ghosted.

my best have been where the foid immediately wet herself. if she didn't I can talk all day like a fucking clown it won't do shit. at that point might as well wait for an ioi and go from there

 

[Lawton88]

Been cold approaching for ages and it has like 5% success rate.

Yeah, so awesome to randomly chat with 20-30 women just to MAYBE get laid with 1.

Anyone who thinks women will reward you for being "confident" is retarded.

If anything some popular Insta guys will get more chance by showing their lives actually matter instead of some random "brave" cold approacher outcast.

Normies don't do cold approach in 2021. It is easy as shit to get phone numbers, because most girls dont want to be rude, but at the end of the day they don't convert into shit.

You literally have to be at least nationally famous.



I'm not an incel, I get laid, had gfs, go on dates. But it's like pulling teeth with this cold approach shit. I really need to statusmaxx within next 5 years

I agree and I would consider myself a 7 and I don't do it as most looksmatches would reject with that approach because you aren't a bona fide Chad. Not giving them the satisfaction of doing that. Would rather wait for signals from a looksmatch in a bar and now these millennial 5/10s and 6/10s will make the first move many times so I know that is BS in recent years about you always having to take the initiative if they want to get with you. Its just they are usually shooting higher than their own looks.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Been cold approaching for ages and it has like 5% success rate.

What they don't show you is that these girls rarely if ever reply to your texts or just leave you on read 99% of the time.

I can't compute your statts? And I am curious, for comparing reasons.
5% success rate ( assuming it means, when striking up convo with 100 randoms, leads to 5 sex partners). Is really great starts.
But 99% women leaving on read, is really bad statts.

1. What your looks level? (mine was PSL 3.5-4)
2. How many out of 100, leads to phonenmber? (Mine was like 20/100)
3. How many 100 lead to date (mine was like 10/100).
4. How many 100 lead to sex (mine was lik 1/100)

** Btw. Best position to be in as a dude, is to have mogger social media presence. And be good looking. And just select women from the simping DM slides women send to you. Or occasionally, be Pro active and slide into DM's yourself

 

[NormieKilla]

Cold-approach requires good looks or otherwise it is suicide.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Cold-approach requires good looks or otherwise it is suicide.

 

[wristcel]

All of my lays have been from cold approach

5% is amazing by the way (if you're saying you can approach 100 hot young girls and bang 5 of them!!)

Mine is a LOT worse (but i'm ugly and mainly only approach girls half my age and fairly hot lol)

It's really just a numbers game. The 'skill' element is fairly negligable

I want some of you to redpill certain posters on reddits 'seduction' sub as my blood boils when certain posters keep pushing this agenda that with their special 'game', they can essentially bang any girl they want lol

 

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It's really just a numbers game.

This is true. I'm not denying numbers game works.

Even if you are ugly loser you can still theoretically just scale up the qty of approaches and eventually get laid with a hot chick at the right moment.

However, that's the point. The more time you spend "approaching" the less time you have to moneymaxxx, statusmaxxx and lifemaxxx. The lower SMV you have the more time you have to spend chasing tail.

As a result, the rest of your life will suffer. While if you were a high value male women would be "sliding into your DMs" and you would only have to pick. You have only so much time on this earth, so which strategy is more efficient?

remove this avi, suicide inducing

5% success rate ( assuming it means, when striking up convo with 100 randoms, leads to 5 sex partners). Is really great starts.

Is it really? I haven't done rough calculations, but I guess that purely from direct cold approach I might be around there, maybe, if I add in all those girls that wanted to fuck me, but I eventually found to be too ugly (so I thought they were ok when I apporached, but after getting to know them I realized they arent hot). So they wanted to have sex with me, but I did not want to.

Actually, maybe my 5% is too optimistic. Maybe its only post-looksmaxxing and money-maxxxing. When I was younger and looked worse I think that number was definitely lower. I will need to approach more women with a good approach (non autistic) to really give you accurate numbers. I can guarantee they have went up with time with raise of SMV and skill. 5% might be there, maybe a bit lower, maybe 4%. I don't know really.

1. What your looks level? (mine was PSL 3.5-4)
2. How many out of 100, leads to phonenmber? (Mine was like 20/100)
3. How many 100 lead to date (mine was like 10/100).
4. How many 100 lead to sex (mine was lik 1/100)

1. I'm sorry, but its hard for me to give you PSL, I don't do that autistic shit. I would say my body is about 9/10 at peak maxxed (with SARMS and what not) and my face is about 7/10 at best (some girls will say my face is 5/10, some will say its 9/10, depends on how high her interest is). I am more of a male butterface I think (gymcel).
2. Again, I didn't do stats. But I think it could be 1/3rd or 1/4th. Maybe 1/5th at worse? 20/100 sounds about right. But phone numbers mean little actually.
3. Hmmm, I think maybe from the numbers I get only 1/4th or 1/3rd lead to date. Again, sometimes I lose interest myself and sometimes I get ghosted or convo fizzles out. I might be too autistic for good text game.
4. I think mine was a bit higher than 1 in 100 as majority or roughly half of girls I go to date with fall for me.

 

[wristcel]

As a result, the rest of your life will suffer. While if you were a high value male women would be "sliding into your DMs" and you would only have to pick. You have only so much time on this earth, so which strategy is more efficient?

I think the problem with that is that we are only really talking the TINY percentage of men who are super high status - basically famous or some shit! The odds are super stacked against us to reach the point where we are so high status that girls wanna fuck us despite being ugly lol

I have so many friends who life mog me into oblivion, but they've never had hot girls Dming them. Similar with money. My brother is loaded. But earning a tonne of money has honestly not effected his sex life at all. Young hot girls don't seem to give a shit about money.

 

[Lawton88]

I think the problem with that is that we are only really talking the TINY percentage of men who are super high status - basically famous or some shit! The odds are super stacked against us to reach the point where we are so high status that girls wanna fuck us despite being ugly lol

I have so many friends who life mog me into oblivion, but they've never had hot girls Dming them. Similar with money. My brother is loaded. But earning a tonne of money has honestly not effected his sex life at all. Young hot girls don't seem to give a shit about money.

Yep that is what has changed a lot over the years. The looks hypergamy is through the roof now and its about the only thing that matters just for hooking up. Money doesn't matter that much except when you are talking long term possible marriage stuff. I know a few well to do average guys who only can get average looking females while in the past they could have easily landed a good looking one.

 

[Be_ConfidentBro]

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