College is cope if ur a incel (debunking “everyone should go to college”)

[hopelessromanticc]

Giving some arguments why college is complete cope if ur a incel

1. Low ceiling
At most ull be making 100-200k a year and that’s assuming everything goes perfect (you have optimal grades, you get hired to a good job, you don’t get fired, etc)
Ik niggas making 100-200k in a month Letalone in a year and ur not doing that shit from any 9-5
And along with this you also don’t have financial control meaning trying to hard max, traveling the world/geomaxxing, etc etc will be harder

2. Huge life quality minn
Not only will the 4 years ur in college be the worst years of your life but after college you will now be 300k in debt (with accruing interest) but even if evrything goes well you will be working a 9-5 the rest of your life just retirecelling with no hope of any actual life quality

3. Debt
My uncle is 40 making really good money and still owes thousands and thousands of dollars to his school and still paying it off till this day.
Just imagine for the next 20-40 years of your life every single dollar you make isn’t even truly yours

4. No job stability
People constantly make the argument that atleast ull make stable money unlike being an entrepreneur but this is just not true in modern day. Layoffs are happening like crazy. There is no such thing as job security, the moment your business you work at wants more investments they will lay you off. The moment you start performing a little weaker they will bring on a new hire. The moment they can find a way to replace your job with a robot ur gone.
even though entrepreneurship isn’t guaranteed money either once you do start making money your salary is basically uncapped and 1 good month or year can make up for multiple bad months if you know good money management and most people who go from rich to broke is usually due to trying to expand faster than you can handle or just constant years of bad financial or business decisions

5. Won’t retire till your 60-70
In fact statistically speaking most people will just never end up retiring but of the percent that do I’ll do it extremely late in life when basically nothing even matters much anymore

6. No more coworker brutality
You choose who you work with so if you are tired of foid brutality you can finally escape it

7. No guarunteed jobs
Just imagine going hella into debt to get a college degree just for you to not get hired. Now your 300k in debt working at McDonald’s dead end job having to pay rent as well as pay off a ropefuel ammount of money. Now I don’t know the percent of people who never end up getting jobs after college i doubt its very high and it could be due to them not socializing or making connections but still it happens
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Responding to common counter arguments

1. But its low chance ull succeed as a entreupreneur
That is true but the risk is mainly within the first 1-3 years after the 3rd year your chance of success is significantly higher and most businesses are profitable statistically (not necessarily high profits)

2. But it’s stressful
Yes as an entrepreneur it is very stressful and there’s lots of things you need to learn if you want to succeed but a few years of stress for a life of success beats working till age 80.

3. It’s risky
Yes entrepreneurship is significantly riskier than a 9-5
but it’s also significantly more rewarding than a 9-5. It’s not for everyone if all you want is a livable life and a guaranteed income then a career is for you but if ur open to possibly failing and have nothing to lose (incels have nothing to lose) then entrepreneurship might be the move

4.High startup costs
This is just obviously not true. It depends on which kind of business your starting and whether your doing it online or wanna start small vs a brick and mortar building. A lot of online businesses will cost very little money all you’ll need is a website and supply for whatever your selling

5. You need hella skills
This is again factually false. I have multiple friends who own businesses and their each making upwards of 10-100k a month and their college dropouts with pretty much no skills

The only thing they learned really is marketing but that was after they had already been making good money from their business.
Yes some businesses need high skill and high barrier to entry but those aren’t the kind of businesses you want to start anyways unless your already rich

Now I’m not trying to glorify entrepreneurship or demonize a 9-5 this isn’t like how TikTok gurus make it seem but atleast personally for me I don’t see a college career worth it in comparison to entrepreneurship

 

[shedontluv-U]

If you keep ungatekeep the method all this argument will not be valable anymore

 

[jjjohal10]

Why can't you do both? A lot of unis have resources for business owners such as funding and raising money for startups. You can also expand your network as there are going to be a lot of people that want to start their own business.

It's much easier to start a business and have it be successful when you have capital to play around with.

Not glorifying Uni but I definitely don't think it's completely "useless"

 

[MixedMAscendingToCL]

I agree with your points but did entrepreneurship actually work for you, or are you just yapping free publicity

 

[lahari]

If you keep ungatekeep the method all this argument will not be valable anymore

Ungatekeep entrepreneurship? People have been advertising this for the longest time

 

[CalmFrog]

Before you read my responses, I think university and a 9-5 job isnt required at all in todays world, but attending and graduating university for people who CAN is a smart move, uni life in its own right is an experience too many people will miss out on, but your points on debt are very serious. I Only advice people to go to uni if they get a full ride scholarship or they got hella money to begin with

1. Low ceiling

Networking and adapting fixes that, if you settle into your job and stop looking for opportunities thats on you, if you really want to travel, do it during your summer vacation, its not really fix but kinda obvious. university is tough especially if your in stem, but time management is key for having a good life in university

2. Huge life quality minn
Not only will the 4 years ur in college be the worst years of your life but after college you will now be 300k in debt (with accruing interest) but even if evrything goes well you will be working a 9-5 the rest of your life just retirecelling with no hope of any actual life quality

go back to my first answer + what if you get a full ride? 0 debt

3. Debt
My uncle is 40 making really good money and still owes thousands and thousands of dollars to his school and still paying it off till this day.
Just imagine for the next 20-40 years of your life every single dollar you make isn’t even truly yours

full ride!

4. No job stability
People constantly

adapt, never settle, always look for better opportunities when it relates to your job + your income shouldn't be majorly from your main job, you should strive to make your income at least 60/40 split between other sources (multiple if need be)

5. Won’t retire till your 60-70

stats dont lie. but again when were we (the people using this forum) part of the majority? us being here is enough to show that your not directing this post to the majority of people, but to the minority

6. No more coworker brutality

never a problem in the first place, be honest and forward, trying to cater to other peoples feelings will only lead to them getting hurt more later

7. No guarunteed job

You find other sources of income, go work at a McDonalds in the morning and attend an internship in the evening or vice versa

 

[hopelessromanticc]

Why can't you do both? A lot of unis have resources for business owners such as funding and raising money for startups. You can also expand your network as there are going to be a lot of people that want to start their own business.

It's much easier to start a business and have it be successful when you have capital to play around with.

Not glorifying Uni but I definitely don't think it's completely "useless"

That’s completely counter productive. If you are business maxing why would you rack up useless college debt just so you can get funding for a business Jfl. This would only be. Worth if if your college is paid off or they give you scholarships. Otherwise going to college just to business max is a meme. It’s Ike getting a degree in business or some shit

 

[lahari]

That’s completely counter productive. If you are business maxing why would you rack up useless college debt just so you can get funding for a business Jfl. This would only be. Worth if if your college is paid off or they give you scholarships. Otherwise going to college just to business max is a meme. It’s Ike getting a degree in business or some shit

Yeah exactly he said if you already have financial backing, get a full ride, or any decent scholarships. I think if you’re not paying too much then it’s a good ROI. This again is not for the majority, as most people won’t achieve this, but if you are financially set then college can teach you a lot about the real world while side questing

 

[lahari]

Yeah exactly he said if you already have financial backing, get a full ride, or any decent scholarships. I think if you’re not paying too much then it’s a good ROI. This again is not for the majority, as most people won’t achieve this, but if you are financially set then college can teach you a lot about the real world while side questing

The second reply to this thread also gave benefits that colleges can provide, if let’s say you do end up going to college

 

[hopelessromanticc]

Before you read my responses, I think university and a 9-5 job isnt required at all in todays world, but attending and graduating university for people who CAN is a smart move, uni life in its own right is an experience too many people will miss out on, but your points on debt are very serious. I Only advice people to go to uni if they get a full ride scholarship or they got hella money to begin with



Networking and adapting fixes that, if you settle into your job and stop looking for opportunities thats on you, if you really want to travel, do it during your summer vacation, its not really fix but kinda obvious. university is tough especially if your in stem, but time management is key for having a good life in university

Networking is how most people even get the 100-200k salaries. Your not going to network your way into 500k-1m a year jobs Jfl unless your like adin Ross lawyer or some shit

go back to my first answer + what if you get a full ride? 0 debt

If you get full ride and no debt then I guess it’s viable but it also depends on to which school as well. Full ride to some shitty college with 100% acceptance rate and 10k tuition is still a meme imo and if ur rlly dead set on career maxing ur better off getting a trade. Full time to a good college is fine for experiences and networking but unless ur going into some really good degree its cope if ur doing it for moneymaxxing

full ride!


adapt, never settle, always look for better opportunities when it relates to your job + your income shouldn't be majorly from your main job, you should strive to make your income at least 60/40 split between other sources (multiple if need be)

Looking for better opportunities isn’t enough anymore. Ull be lucky to even land a job paying $20 a hour nowadays Letalone anything above 60-100k even with a degree. Nowadays even McDonald’s managers need degrees Jfl

stats dont lie. but again when were we (the people using this forum) part of the majority? us being here is enough to show that your not directing this post to the majority of people, but to the minority

Being a minority in one state doesn’t mean you won’t be the majority in other statistics

never a problem in the first place, be honest and forward, trying to cater to other peoples feelings will only lead to them getting hurt more later


You find other sources of income, go work at a McDonalds in the morning and attend an internship in the evening or vice versa

Easier said than done But again if ur realy this focused on a career I think this same dedication to a business would probably be more profitable in the long run

 

[CalmFrog]

Your thinking of abnormally high numbers, what do you mean by '500k-1m" it should obvious that even if your the top of your game in an entire state you'll still not make that much money from your 9-5, thats where other sources of income come in. an example of this would be becoming a trainer or a speaker on one aspect of your job, completing your studies to become a doctor in your major. and of course in the meantime you can work on whatever you think will gain you money outside of your field

Looking for better opportunities isn’t enough anymore. Ull be lucky to even land a job paying $20 a hour nowadays Letalone anything above 60-100k even with a degree. Nowadays even McDonald’s managers need degrees Jfl

setting in and not actively working for those opportunities is whats holding you back, you might think that finding a job is impossible but in reality it isnt, the problem is in the sheer number of people applying to the same job as you, dont expect to "deserver" a job just because you graduated, you have to do other things, and if you go to any highly ranked university they tell you this yearly, and they start giving you opportunities to shine starting from your sophomore year

Being a minority in one state doesn’t mean you won’t be the majority in other statistics

grasping at straws here, your point is true, if this wasn't a literal place where people try to maximize their whole lives. most people who are actually benefiting from this website are actively trying to improve every aspect of their life and not just their looks, (not talking about greys)

Easier said than done But again if ur realy this focused on a career I think this same dedication to a business would probably be more profitable in the long run

Look the thing is its not easy any way round, I personally know alot of entrupunters who failed even though they were more resilient than I could ever be, this economy is horrible for anyone trying to launch a start up, you could do everything right but still end up in the red.

I dont promote 9-5 jobs, but in reality they are the foundation of how most millionaires made their fortune (not directly, but the constant influx of money helped them with the money aspect )

I don't want to work a 9-5 job, I want to work in the entertainment industry (Youtuber, actor, spokesperson, public speaker), but I got the chance to go to a prestigious university for absolutely free due to me scoring in the top 1% where iam from, if I maintain good grades for the next 3 years, I would be given a high paying job on a silver platter. dropping out doesn't seem like the correct decision in my case

 

[currentlymtn]

Giving some arguments why college is complete cope if ur a incel

1. Low ceiling
At most ull be making 100-200k a year and that’s assuming everything goes perfect (you have optimal grades, you get hired to a good job, you don’t get fired, etc)
Ik niggas making 100-200k in a month Letalone in a year and ur not doing that shit from any 9-5
And along with this you also don’t have financial control meaning trying to hard max, traveling the world/geomaxxing, etc etc will be harder

2. Huge life quality minn
Not only will the 4 years ur in college be the worst years of your life but after college you will now be 300k in debt (with accruing interest) but even if evrything goes well you will be working a 9-5 the rest of your life just retirecelling with no hope of any actual life quality

3. Debt
My uncle is 40 making really good money and still owes thousands and thousands of dollars to his school and still paying it off till this day.
Just imagine for the next 20-40 years of your life every single dollar you make isn’t even truly yours

4. No job stability
People constantly make the argument that atleast ull make stable money unlike being an entrepreneur but this is just not true in modern day. Layoffs are happening like crazy. There is no such thing as job security, the moment your business you work at wants more investments they will lay you off. The moment you start performing a little weaker they will bring on a new hire. The moment they can find a way to replace your job with a robot ur gone.
even though entrepreneurship isn’t guaranteed money either once you do start making money your salary is basically uncapped and 1 good month or year can make up for multiple bad months if you know good money management and most people who go from rich to broke is usually due to trying to expand faster than you can handle or just constant years of bad financial or business decisions

5. Won’t retire till your 60-70
In fact statistically speaking most people will just never end up retiring but of the percent that do I’ll do it extremely late in life when basically nothing even matters much anymore

6. No more coworker brutality
You choose who you work with so if you are tired of foid brutality you can finally escape it

7. No guarunteed jobs
Just imagine going hella into debt to get a college degree just for you to not get hired. Now your 300k in debt working at McDonald’s dead end job having to pay rent as well as pay off a ropefuel ammount of money. Now I don’t know the percent of people who never end up getting jobs after college i doubt its very high and it could be due to them not socializing or making connections but still it happens
—

Responding to common counter arguments

1. But its low chance ull succeed as a entreupreneur
That is true but the risk is mainly within the first 1-3 years after the 3rd year your chance of success is significantly higher and most businesses are profitable statistically (not necessarily high profits)

2. But it’s stressful
Yes as an entrepreneur it is very stressful and there’s lots of things you need to learn if you want to succeed but a few years of stress for a life of success beats working till age 80.

3. It’s risky
Yes entrepreneurship is significantly riskier than a 9-5
but it’s also significantly more rewarding than a 9-5. It’s not for everyone if all you want is a livable life and a guaranteed income then a career is for you but if ur open to possibly failing and have nothing to lose (incels have nothing to lose) then entrepreneurship might be the move

4.High startup costs
This is just obviously not true. It depends on which kind of business your starting and whether your doing it online or wanna start small vs a brick and mortar building. A lot of online businesses will cost very little money all you’ll need is a website and supply for whatever your selling

5. You need hella skills
This is again factually false. I have multiple friends who own businesses and their each making upwards of 10-100k a month and their college dropouts with pretty much no skills

The only thing they learned really is marketing but that was after they had already been making good money from their business.
Yes some businesses need high skill and high barrier to entry but those aren’t the kind of businesses you want to start anyways unless your already rich

Now I’m not trying to glorify entrepreneurship or demonize a 9-5 this isn’t like how TikTok gurus make it seem but atleast personally for me I don’t see a college career worth it in comparison to entrepreneurship

What if my dad owns a private equity firm and I have free college from the va? is this a scam? Lmk

 

[ChudReceptor]

What if my dad owns a private equity firm and I have free college from the va? is this a scam? Lmk

your set bro, go to college and study something useful (yes ik its vague but you can figure it out). When I was your age i wish i couldve had that. i work part time to pay for Uni and it sucks ass, take any advantage you can in life, especially if your dad is giving it to you. if you wanna go work for your dads firm ask him whats a good degree to pursue or what he is looking for in an employee and thats where you can start getting to work.

 

[thodian]

Giving some arguments why college is complete cope if ur a incel

1. Low ceiling
At most ull be making 100-200k a year and that’s assuming everything goes perfect (you have optimal grades, you get hired to a good job, you don’t get fired, etc)
Ik niggas making 100-200k in a month Letalone in a year and ur not doing that shit from any 9-5
And along with this you also don’t have financial control meaning trying to hard max, traveling the world/geomaxxing, etc etc will be harder

2. Huge life quality minn
Not only will the 4 years ur in college be the worst years of your life but after college you will now be 300k in debt (with accruing interest) but even if evrything goes well you will be working a 9-5 the rest of your life just retirecelling with no hope of any actual life quality

3. Debt
My uncle is 40 making really good money and still owes thousands and thousands of dollars to his school and still paying it off till this day.
Just imagine for the next 20-40 years of your life every single dollar you make isn’t even truly yours

4. No job stability
People constantly make the argument that atleast ull make stable money unlike being an entrepreneur but this is just not true in modern day. Layoffs are happening like crazy. There is no such thing as job security, the moment your business you work at wants more investments they will lay you off. The moment you start performing a little weaker they will bring on a new hire. The moment they can find a way to replace your job with a robot ur gone.
even though entrepreneurship isn’t guaranteed money either once you do start making money your salary is basically uncapped and 1 good month or year can make up for multiple bad months if you know good money management and most people who go from rich to broke is usually due to trying to expand faster than you can handle or just constant years of bad financial or business decisions

5. Won’t retire till your 60-70
In fact statistically speaking most people will just never end up retiring but of the percent that do I’ll do it extremely late in life when basically nothing even matters much anymore

6. No more coworker brutality
You choose who you work with so if you are tired of foid brutality you can finally escape it

7. No guarunteed jobs
Just imagine going hella into debt to get a college degree just for you to not get hired. Now your 300k in debt working at McDonald’s dead end job having to pay rent as well as pay off a ropefuel ammount of money. Now I don’t know the percent of people who never end up getting jobs after college i doubt its very high and it could be due to them not socializing or making connections but still it happens
—

Responding to common counter arguments

1. But its low chance ull succeed as a entreupreneur
That is true but the risk is mainly within the first 1-3 years after the 3rd year your chance of success is significantly higher and most businesses are profitable statistically (not necessarily high profits)

2. But it’s stressful
Yes as an entrepreneur it is very stressful and there’s lots of things you need to learn if you want to succeed but a few years of stress for a life of success beats working till age 80.

3. It’s risky
Yes entrepreneurship is significantly riskier than a 9-5
but it’s also significantly more rewarding than a 9-5. It’s not for everyone if all you want is a livable life and a guaranteed income then a career is for you but if ur open to possibly failing and have nothing to lose (incels have nothing to lose) then entrepreneurship might be the move

4.High startup costs
This is just obviously not true. It depends on which kind of business your starting and whether your doing it online or wanna start small vs a brick and mortar building. A lot of online businesses will cost very little money all you’ll need is a website and supply for whatever your selling

5. You need hella skills
This is again factually false. I have multiple friends who own businesses and their each making upwards of 10-100k a month and their college dropouts with pretty much no skills

The only thing they learned really is marketing but that was after they had already been making good money from their business.
Yes some businesses need high skill and high barrier to entry but those aren’t the kind of businesses you want to start anyways unless your already rich

Now I’m not trying to glorify entrepreneurship or demonize a 9-5 this isn’t like how TikTok gurus make it seem but atleast personally for me I don’t see a college career worth it in comparison to entrepreneurship

U can do both lmao and in most cases if u go to college u can get better connections, if u aren't retarded and can make time u can easily do both but most people r lazy and just fry themselves and waste the time

 

[zjss]

Giving some arguments why college is complete cope if ur a incel

1. Low ceiling
At most ull be making 100-200k a year and that’s assuming everything goes perfect (you have optimal grades, you get hired to a good job, you don’t get fired, etc)
Ik niggas making 100-200k in a month Letalone in a year and ur not doing that shit from any 9-5
And along with this you also don’t have financial control meaning trying to hard max, traveling the world/geomaxxing, etc etc will be harder

2. Huge life quality minn
Not only will the 4 years ur in college be the worst years of your life but after college you will now be 300k in debt (with accruing interest) but even if evrything goes well you will be working a 9-5 the rest of your life just retirecelling with no hope of any actual life quality

3. Debt
My uncle is 40 making really good money and still owes thousands and thousands of dollars to his school and still paying it off till this day.
Just imagine for the next 20-40 years of your life every single dollar you make isn’t even truly yours

4. No job stability
People constantly make the argument that atleast ull make stable money unlike being an entrepreneur but this is just not true in modern day. Layoffs are happening like crazy. There is no such thing as job security, the moment your business you work at wants more investments they will lay you off. The moment you start performing a little weaker they will bring on a new hire. The moment they can find a way to replace your job with a robot ur gone.
even though entrepreneurship isn’t guaranteed money either once you do start making money your salary is basically uncapped and 1 good month or year can make up for multiple bad months if you know good money management and most people who go from rich to broke is usually due to trying to expand faster than you can handle or just constant years of bad financial or business decisions

5. Won’t retire till your 60-70
In fact statistically speaking most people will just never end up retiring but of the percent that do I’ll do it extremely late in life when basically nothing even matters much anymore

6. No more coworker brutality
You choose who you work with so if you are tired of foid brutality you can finally escape it

7. No guarunteed jobs
Just imagine going hella into debt to get a college degree just for you to not get hired. Now your 300k in debt working at McDonald’s dead end job having to pay rent as well as pay off a ropefuel ammount of money. Now I don’t know the percent of people who never end up getting jobs after college i doubt its very high and it could be due to them not socializing or making connections but still it happens
—

Responding to common counter arguments

1. But its low chance ull succeed as a entreupreneur
That is true but the risk is mainly within the first 1-3 years after the 3rd year your chance of success is significantly higher and most businesses are profitable statistically (not necessarily high profits)

2. But it’s stressful
Yes as an entrepreneur it is very stressful and there’s lots of things you need to learn if you want to succeed but a few years of stress for a life of success beats working till age 80.

3. It’s risky
Yes entrepreneurship is significantly riskier than a 9-5
but it’s also significantly more rewarding than a 9-5. It’s not for everyone if all you want is a livable life and a guaranteed income then a career is for you but if ur open to possibly failing and have nothing to lose (incels have nothing to lose) then entrepreneurship might be the move

4.High startup costs
This is just obviously not true. It depends on which kind of business your starting and whether your doing it online or wanna start small vs a brick and mortar building. A lot of online businesses will cost very little money all you’ll need is a website and supply for whatever your selling

5. You need hella skills
This is again factually false. I have multiple friends who own businesses and their each making upwards of 10-100k a month and their college dropouts with pretty much no skills

The only thing they learned really is marketing but that was after they had already been making good money from their business.
Yes some businesses need high skill and high barrier to entry but those aren’t the kind of businesses you want to start anyways unless your already rich

Now I’m not trying to glorify entrepreneurship or demonize a 9-5 this isn’t like how TikTok gurus make it seem but atleast personally for me I don’t see a college career worth it in comparison to entrepreneurship

 

[AlphaLooksmaxxer666]

you forgot if you go to college and you want to work, or if youre working, you wont have time to go to the gym. An essential of looksmaxxing.

 

[Deleted member 154351]

Giving some arguments why college is complete cope if ur a incel

1. Low ceiling
At most ull be making 100-200k a year and that’s assuming everything goes perfect (you have optimal grades, you get hired to a good job, you don’t get fired, etc)
Ik niggas making 100-200k in a month Letalone in a year and ur not doing that shit from any 9-5
And along with this you also don’t have financial control meaning trying to hard max, traveling the world/geomaxxing, etc etc will be harder

2. Huge life quality minn
Not only will the 4 years ur in college be the worst years of your life but after college you will now be 300k in debt (with accruing interest) but even if evrything goes well you will be working a 9-5 the rest of your life just retirecelling with no hope of any actual life quality

3. Debt
My uncle is 40 making really good money and still owes thousands and thousands of dollars to his school and still paying it off till this day.
Just imagine for the next 20-40 years of your life every single dollar you make isn’t even truly yours

4. No job stability
People constantly make the argument that atleast ull make stable money unlike being an entrepreneur but this is just not true in modern day. Layoffs are happening like crazy. There is no such thing as job security, the moment your business you work at wants more investments they will lay you off. The moment you start performing a little weaker they will bring on a new hire. The moment they can find a way to replace your job with a robot ur gone.
even though entrepreneurship isn’t guaranteed money either once you do start making money your salary is basically uncapped and 1 good month or year can make up for multiple bad months if you know good money management and most people who go from rich to broke is usually due to trying to expand faster than you can handle or just constant years of bad financial or business decisions

5. Won’t retire till your 60-70
In fact statistically speaking most people will just never end up retiring but of the percent that do I’ll do it extremely late in life when basically nothing even matters much anymore

6. No more coworker brutality
You choose who you work with so if you are tired of foid brutality you can finally escape it

7. No guarunteed jobs
Just imagine going hella into debt to get a college degree just for you to not get hired. Now your 300k in debt working at McDonald’s dead end job having to pay rent as well as pay off a ropefuel ammount of money. Now I don’t know the percent of people who never end up getting jobs after college i doubt its very high and it could be due to them not socializing or making connections but still it happens
—

Responding to common counter arguments

1. But its low chance ull succeed as a entreupreneur
That is true but the risk is mainly within the first 1-3 years after the 3rd year your chance of success is significantly higher and most businesses are profitable statistically (not necessarily high profits)

2. But it’s stressful
Yes as an entrepreneur it is very stressful and there’s lots of things you need to learn if you want to succeed but a few years of stress for a life of success beats working till age 80.

3. It’s risky
Yes entrepreneurship is significantly riskier than a 9-5
but it’s also significantly more rewarding than a 9-5. It’s not for everyone if all you want is a livable life and a guaranteed income then a career is for you but if ur open to possibly failing and have nothing to lose (incels have nothing to lose) then entrepreneurship might be the move

4.High startup costs
This is just obviously not true. It depends on which kind of business your starting and whether your doing it online or wanna start small vs a brick and mortar building. A lot of online businesses will cost very little money all you’ll need is a website and supply for whatever your selling

5. You need hella skills
This is again factually false. I have multiple friends who own businesses and their each making upwards of 10-100k a month and their college dropouts with pretty much no skills

The only thing they learned really is marketing but that was after they had already been making good money from their business.
Yes some businesses need high skill and high barrier to entry but those aren’t the kind of businesses you want to start anyways unless your already rich

Now I’m not trying to glorify entrepreneurship or demonize a 9-5 this isn’t like how TikTok gurus make it seem but atleast personally for me I don’t see a college career worth it in comparison to entrepreneurship

Dude, you're wasting your time even making this post.
I can tell you have poor control over your emotions by feeling the need to write out this long ass post trying to convince randoms on shit that shouldn't even matter to you.
I'm not defending or against either or. You know you should be doing better things right now.

 

[boxing-cel]

100% accurate

I hate it more than anything else

I’m coping by hitting the gym 4x a week, hitting boxing 2x a week, levelling up my biz, looksmaxxxing, statusmaxxing sleeping 8 to 10 hours. Cant wait for my life to finally begin when I graduate.

 

[Deleted member 104869]

You didn't debunk anything. Next.

 

[Mochi Force 15]

Giving some arguments why college is complete cope if ur a incel

1. Low ceiling
At most ull be making 100-200k a year and that’s assuming everything goes perfect (you have optimal grades, you get hired to a good job, you don’t get fired, etc)
Ik niggas making 100-200k in a month Letalone in a year and ur not doing that shit from any 9-5
And along with this you also don’t have financial control meaning trying to hard max, traveling the world/geomaxxing, etc etc will be harder

2. Huge life quality minn
Not only will the 4 years ur in college be the worst years of your life but after college you will now be 300k in debt (with accruing interest) but even if evrything goes well you will be working a 9-5 the rest of your life just retirecelling with no hope of any actual life quality

3. Debt
My uncle is 40 making really good money and still owes thousands and thousands of dollars to his school and still paying it off till this day.
Just imagine for the next 20-40 years of your life every single dollar you make isn’t even truly yours

4. No job stability
People constantly make the argument that atleast ull make stable money unlike being an entrepreneur but this is just not true in modern day. Layoffs are happening like crazy. There is no such thing as job security, the moment your business you work at wants more investments they will lay you off. The moment you start performing a little weaker they will bring on a new hire. The moment they can find a way to replace your job with a robot ur gone.
even though entrepreneurship isn’t guaranteed money either once you do start making money your salary is basically uncapped and 1 good month or year can make up for multiple bad months if you know good money management and most people who go from rich to broke is usually due to trying to expand faster than you can handle or just constant years of bad financial or business decisions

5. Won’t retire till your 60-70
In fact statistically speaking most people will just never end up retiring but of the percent that do I’ll do it extremely late in life when basically nothing even matters much anymore

6. No more coworker brutality
You choose who you work with so if you are tired of foid brutality you can finally escape it

7. No guarunteed jobs
Just imagine going hella into debt to get a college degree just for you to not get hired. Now your 300k in debt working at McDonald’s dead end job having to pay rent as well as pay off a ropefuel ammount of money. Now I don’t know the percent of people who never end up getting jobs after college i doubt its very high and it could be due to them not socializing or making connections but still it happens
—

Responding to common counter arguments

1. But its low chance ull succeed as a entreupreneur
That is true but the risk is mainly within the first 1-3 years after the 3rd year your chance of success is significantly higher and most businesses are profitable statistically (not necessarily high profits)

2. But it’s stressful
Yes as an entrepreneur it is very stressful and there’s lots of things you need to learn if you want to succeed but a few years of stress for a life of success beats working till age 80.

3. It’s risky
Yes entrepreneurship is significantly riskier than a 9-5
but it’s also significantly more rewarding than a 9-5. It’s not for everyone if all you want is a livable life and a guaranteed income then a career is for you but if ur open to possibly failing and have nothing to lose (incels have nothing to lose) then entrepreneurship might be the move

4.High startup costs
This is just obviously not true. It depends on which kind of business your starting and whether your doing it online or wanna start small vs a brick and mortar building. A lot of online businesses will cost very little money all you’ll need is a website and supply for whatever your selling

5. You need hella skills
This is again factually false. I have multiple friends who own businesses and their each making upwards of 10-100k a month and their college dropouts with pretty much no skills

The only thing they learned really is marketing but that was after they had already been making good money from their business.
Yes some businesses need high skill and high barrier to entry but those aren’t the kind of businesses you want to start anyways unless your already rich

Now I’m not trying to glorify entrepreneurship or demonize a 9-5 this isn’t like how TikTok gurus make it seem but atleast personally for me I don’t see a college career worth it in comparison to entrepreneurship

you're not really wrong. There are plenty of AI/ML tools out there that you can use to optimize profits. Resources like Clawdbot, Notion, or Claude can be used in a variety of ways. You can build financial models for any lucrative asset classes you want to dive into (Real Estate, Tangible Commodities, or even financial derivatives). You can build trading algorithms with ease too. However, if you want to become successful with these tools, you have to be willing to dedicate tons of time and effort into mastering it.

 

[soulless_npc]

I can confirm being incel in college was one of the worst times of my life but that still isn't the reason I dropped out

 

[illoan82]

jfl they pay me to go to college

 

[NudeSelfiesTilliDie]

How will it be the worst 4 years of your life? If you have parents who pay or scholar ships u get to live 4 years for free, slay low quality girls who are up for anything, party hella

 

[Whiteboard7]

Giving some arguments why college is complete cope if ur a incel

1. Low ceiling
At most ull be making 100-200k a year and that’s assuming everything goes perfect (you have optimal grades, you get hired to a good job, you don’t get fired, etc)
Ik niggas making 100-200k in a month Letalone in a year and ur not doing that shit from any 9-5
And along with this you also don’t have financial control meaning trying to hard max, traveling the world/geomaxxing, etc etc will be harder

2. Huge life quality minn
Not only will the 4 years ur in college be the worst years of your life but after college you will now be 300k in debt (with accruing interest) but even if evrything goes well you will be working a 9-5 the rest of your life just retirecelling with no hope of any actual life quality

3. Debt
My uncle is 40 making really good money and still owes thousands and thousands of dollars to his school and still paying it off till this day.
Just imagine for the next 20-40 years of your life every single dollar you make isn’t even truly yours

4. No job stability
People constantly make the argument that atleast ull make stable money unlike being an entrepreneur but this is just not true in modern day. Layoffs are happening like crazy. There is no such thing as job security, the moment your business you work at wants more investments they will lay you off. The moment you start performing a little weaker they will bring on a new hire. The moment they can find a way to replace your job with a robot ur gone.
even though entrepreneurship isn’t guaranteed money either once you do start making money your salary is basically uncapped and 1 good month or year can make up for multiple bad months if you know good money management and most people who go from rich to broke is usually due to trying to expand faster than you can handle or just constant years of bad financial or business decisions

5. Won’t retire till your 60-70
In fact statistically speaking most people will just never end up retiring but of the percent that do I’ll do it extremely late in life when basically nothing even matters much anymore

6. No more coworker brutality
You choose who you work with so if you are tired of foid brutality you can finally escape it

7. No guarunteed jobs
Just imagine going hella into debt to get a college degree just for you to not get hired. Now your 300k in debt working at McDonald’s dead end job having to pay rent as well as pay off a ropefuel ammount of money. Now I don’t know the percent of people who never end up getting jobs after college i doubt its very high and it could be due to them not socializing or making connections but still it happens
—

Responding to common counter arguments

1. But its low chance ull succeed as a entreupreneur
That is true but the risk is mainly within the first 1-3 years after the 3rd year your chance of success is significantly higher and most businesses are profitable statistically (not necessarily high profits)

2. But it’s stressful
Yes as an entrepreneur it is very stressful and there’s lots of things you need to learn if you want to succeed but a few years of stress for a life of success beats working till age 80.

3. It’s risky
Yes entrepreneurship is significantly riskier than a 9-5
but it’s also significantly more rewarding than a 9-5. It’s not for everyone if all you want is a livable life and a guaranteed income then a career is for you but if ur open to possibly failing and have nothing to lose (incels have nothing to lose) then entrepreneurship might be the move

4.High startup costs
This is just obviously not true. It depends on which kind of business your starting and whether your doing it online or wanna start small vs a brick and mortar building. A lot of online businesses will cost very little money all you’ll need is a website and supply for whatever your selling

5. You need hella skills
This is again factually false. I have multiple friends who own businesses and their each making upwards of 10-100k a month and their college dropouts with pretty much no skills

The only thing they learned really is marketing but that was after they had already been making good money from their business.
Yes some businesses need high skill and high barrier to entry but those aren’t the kind of businesses you want to start anyways unless your already rich

Now I’m not trying to glorify entrepreneurship or demonize a 9-5 this isn’t like how TikTok gurus make it seem but atleast personally for me I don’t see a college career worth it in comparison to entrepreneurship

Do you know any ways to make a lot of money from home if possible brother

 

[Alienmaxxer]

Yeah that sucks and all, but how is entrepreneurship better? It is super risky with a low success rate and requires quite a bit of funding. Most online business is super saturated like dropshipping. It isn't at all a sure path to income, and if you fail you're left without a good career which are mostly locked behind credentials and networking.

Not to mention you will be working far more than what someone working a 9-5 does in your first few years setting up your business, usually with sub-minimum wage profit.

 

[Deleted member 351636]

Giving some arguments why college is complete cope if ur a incel

1. Low ceiling
At most ull be making 100-200k a year and that’s assuming everything goes perfect (you have optimal grades, you get hired to a good job, you don’t get fired, etc)
Ik niggas making 100-200k in a month Letalone in a year and ur not doing that shit from any 9-5
And along with this you also don’t have financial control meaning trying to hard max, traveling the world/geomaxxing, etc etc will be harder

2. Huge life quality minn
Not only will the 4 years ur in college be the worst years of your life but after college you will now be 300k in debt (with accruing interest) but even if evrything goes well you will be working a 9-5 the rest of your life just retirecelling with no hope of any actual life quality

3. Debt
My uncle is 40 making really good money and still owes thousands and thousands of dollars to his school and still paying it off till this day.
Just imagine for the next 20-40 years of your life every single dollar you make isn’t even truly yours

4. No job stability
People constantly make the argument that atleast ull make stable money unlike being an entrepreneur but this is just not true in modern day. Layoffs are happening like crazy. There is no such thing as job security, the moment your business you work at wants more investments they will lay you off. The moment you start performing a little weaker they will bring on a new hire. The moment they can find a way to replace your job with a robot ur gone.
even though entrepreneurship isn’t guaranteed money either once you do start making money your salary is basically uncapped and 1 good month or year can make up for multiple bad months if you know good money management and most people who go from rich to broke is usually due to trying to expand faster than you can handle or just constant years of bad financial or business decisions

5. Won’t retire till your 60-70
In fact statistically speaking most people will just never end up retiring but of the percent that do I’ll do it extremely late in life when basically nothing even matters much anymore

6. No more coworker brutality
You choose who you work with so if you are tired of foid brutality you can finally escape it

7. No guarunteed jobs
Just imagine going hella into debt to get a college degree just for you to not get hired. Now your 300k in debt working at McDonald’s dead end job having to pay rent as well as pay off a ropefuel ammount of money. Now I don’t know the percent of people who never end up getting jobs after college i doubt its very high and it could be due to them not socializing or making connections but still it happens
—

Responding to common counter arguments

1. But its low chance ull succeed as a entreupreneur
That is true but the risk is mainly within the first 1-3 years after the 3rd year your chance of success is significantly higher and most businesses are profitable statistically (not necessarily high profits)

2. But it’s stressful
Yes as an entrepreneur it is very stressful and there’s lots of things you need to learn if you want to succeed but a few years of stress for a life of success beats working till age 80.

3. It’s risky
Yes entrepreneurship is significantly riskier than a 9-5
but it’s also significantly more rewarding than a 9-5. It’s not for everyone if all you want is a livable life and a guaranteed income then a career is for you but if ur open to possibly failing and have nothing to lose (incels have nothing to lose) then entrepreneurship might be the move

4.High startup costs
This is just obviously not true. It depends on which kind of business your starting and whether your doing it online or wanna start small vs a brick and mortar building. A lot of online businesses will cost very little money all you’ll need is a website and supply for whatever your selling

5. You need hella skills
This is again factually false. I have multiple friends who own businesses and their each making upwards of 10-100k a month and their college dropouts with pretty much no skills

The only thing they learned really is marketing but that was after they had already been making good money from their business.
Yes some businesses need high skill and high barrier to entry but those aren’t the kind of businesses you want to start anyways unless your already rich

Now I’m not trying to glorify entrepreneurship or demonize a 9-5 this isn’t like how TikTok gurus make it seem but atleast personally for me I don’t see a college career worth it in comparison to entrepreneurship

i will choose a easy major so np

 

[Volpa]

Giving some arguments why college is complete cope if ur a incel

1. Low ceiling
At most ull be making 100-200k a year and that’s assuming everything goes perfect (you have optimal grades, you get hired to a good job, you don’t get fired, etc)
Ik niggas making 100-200k in a month Letalone in a year and ur not doing that shit from any 9-5
And along with this you also don’t have financial control meaning trying to hard max, traveling the world/geomaxxing, etc etc will be harder

2. Huge life quality minn
Not only will the 4 years ur in college be the worst years of your life but after college you will now be 300k in debt (with accruing interest) but even if evrything goes well you will be working a 9-5 the rest of your life just retirecelling with no hope of any actual life quality

3. Debt
My uncle is 40 making really good money and still owes thousands and thousands of dollars to his school and still paying it off till this day.
Just imagine for the next 20-40 years of your life every single dollar you make isn’t even truly yours

4. No job stability
People constantly make the argument that atleast ull make stable money unlike being an entrepreneur but this is just not true in modern day. Layoffs are happening like crazy. There is no such thing as job security, the moment your business you work at wants more investments they will lay you off. The moment you start performing a little weaker they will bring on a new hire. The moment they can find a way to replace your job with a robot ur gone.
even though entrepreneurship isn’t guaranteed money either once you do start making money your salary is basically uncapped and 1 good month or year can make up for multiple bad months if you know good money management and most people who go from rich to broke is usually due to trying to expand faster than you can handle or just constant years of bad financial or business decisions

5. Won’t retire till your 60-70
In fact statistically speaking most people will just never end up retiring but of the percent that do I’ll do it extremely late in life when basically nothing even matters much anymore

6. No more coworker brutality
You choose who you work with so if you are tired of foid brutality you can finally escape it

7. No guarunteed jobs
Just imagine going hella into debt to get a college degree just for you to not get hired. Now your 300k in debt working at McDonald’s dead end job having to pay rent as well as pay off a ropefuel ammount of money. Now I don’t know the percent of people who never end up getting jobs after college i doubt its very high and it could be due to them not socializing or making connections but still it happens
—

Responding to common counter arguments

1. But its low chance ull succeed as a entreupreneur
That is true but the risk is mainly within the first 1-3 years after the 3rd year your chance of success is significantly higher and most businesses are profitable statistically (not necessarily high profits)

2. But it’s stressful
Yes as an entrepreneur it is very stressful and there’s lots of things you need to learn if you want to succeed but a few years of stress for a life of success beats working till age 80.

3. It’s risky
Yes entrepreneurship is significantly riskier than a 9-5
but it’s also significantly more rewarding than a 9-5. It’s not for everyone if all you want is a livable life and a guaranteed income then a career is for you but if ur open to possibly failing and have nothing to lose (incels have nothing to lose) then entrepreneurship might be the move

4.High startup costs
This is just obviously not true. It depends on which kind of business your starting and whether your doing it online or wanna start small vs a brick and mortar building. A lot of online businesses will cost very little money all you’ll need is a website and supply for whatever your selling

5. You need hella skills
This is again factually false. I have multiple friends who own businesses and their each making upwards of 10-100k a month and their college dropouts with pretty much no skills

The only thing they learned really is marketing but that was after they had already been making good money from their business.
Yes some businesses need high skill and high barrier to entry but those aren’t the kind of businesses you want to start anyways unless your already rich

Now I’m not trying to glorify entrepreneurship or demonize a 9-5 this isn’t like how TikTok gurus make it seem but atleast personally for me I don’t see a college career worth it in comparison to entrepreneurship

Sorry but your shitty grammatical error in the title completely demolished any credibility to the claim. “a incel” -> “an incel”

 

[sadcel]

Shit thread, everything matters including your education

 

[boxing-cel]

I can confirm being incel in college was one of the worst times of my life but that still isn't the reason I dropped out

Why then?

 

[m0ss26]

Average person is not only retarded but also socially inept, no room to make money from entrepreneurship with those stats

 

[boxing-cel]

Shit thread, everything matters including your education

Depends on your degree

 

[sadcel]

Depends on your degree

That's water of course, of course you will have no future if you graduate in sociology.

 

[soulless_npc]

Why then?

I was majoring in music business which was a scam and a total waste of time

I should have just gone into the trades right at that point instead of going from wageslave job to wageslave job afterward, because now I have nothing to show for my time except a job history and an Associates degree

 

[fluoride1337]

Giving some arguments why college is complete cope if ur a incel

1. Low ceiling
At most ull be making 100-200k a year and that’s assuming everything goes perfect (you have optimal grades, you get hired to a good job, you don’t get fired, etc)
Ik niggas making 100-200k in a month Letalone in a year and ur not doing that shit from any 9-5
And along with this you also don’t have financial control meaning trying to hard max, traveling the world/geomaxxing, etc etc will be harder

2. Huge life quality minn
Not only will the 4 years ur in college be the worst years of your life but after college you will now be 300k in debt (with accruing interest) but even if evrything goes well you will be working a 9-5 the rest of your life just retirecelling with no hope of any actual life quality

3. Debt
My uncle is 40 making really good money and still owes thousands and thousands of dollars to his school and still paying it off till this day.
Just imagine for the next 20-40 years of your life every single dollar you make isn’t even truly yours

4. No job stability
People constantly make the argument that atleast ull make stable money unlike being an entrepreneur but this is just not true in modern day. Layoffs are happening like crazy. There is no such thing as job security, the moment your business you work at wants more investments they will lay you off. The moment you start performing a little weaker they will bring on a new hire. The moment they can find a way to replace your job with a robot ur gone.
even though entrepreneurship isn’t guaranteed money either once you do start making money your salary is basically uncapped and 1 good month or year can make up for multiple bad months if you know good money management and most people who go from rich to broke is usually due to trying to expand faster than you can handle or just constant years of bad financial or business decisions

5. Won’t retire till your 60-70
In fact statistically speaking most people will just never end up retiring but of the percent that do I’ll do it extremely late in life when basically nothing even matters much anymore

6. No more coworker brutality
You choose who you work with so if you are tired of foid brutality you can finally escape it

7. No guarunteed jobs
Just imagine going hella into debt to get a college degree just for you to not get hired. Now your 300k in debt working at McDonald’s dead end job having to pay rent as well as pay off a ropefuel ammount of money. Now I don’t know the percent of people who never end up getting jobs after college i doubt its very high and it could be due to them not socializing or making connections but still it happens
—

Responding to common counter arguments

1. But its low chance ull succeed as a entreupreneur
That is true but the risk is mainly within the first 1-3 years after the 3rd year your chance of success is significantly higher and most businesses are profitable statistically (not necessarily high profits)

2. But it’s stressful
Yes as an entrepreneur it is very stressful and there’s lots of things you need to learn if you want to succeed but a few years of stress for a life of success beats working till age 80.

3. It’s risky
Yes entrepreneurship is significantly riskier than a 9-5
but it’s also significantly more rewarding than a 9-5. It’s not for everyone if all you want is a livable life and a guaranteed income then a career is for you but if ur open to possibly failing and have nothing to lose (incels have nothing to lose) then entrepreneurship might be the move

4.High startup costs
This is just obviously not true. It depends on which kind of business your starting and whether your doing it online or wanna start small vs a brick and mortar building. A lot of online businesses will cost very little money all you’ll need is a website and supply for whatever your selling

5. You need hella skills
This is again factually false. I have multiple friends who own businesses and their each making upwards of 10-100k a month and their college dropouts with pretty much no skills

The only thing they learned really is marketing but that was after they had already been making good money from their business.
Yes some businesses need high skill and high barrier to entry but those aren’t the kind of businesses you want to start anyways unless your already rich

Now I’m not trying to glorify entrepreneurship or demonize a 9-5 this isn’t like how TikTok gurus make it seem but atleast personally for me I don’t see a college career worth it in comparison to entrepreneurship

I only skimmed this because I can't stand to read ramblings from illiterate speds but the couple of arguments that I read were completely wrong or fallacious.

"i know niggas making 100k-200k a month" you probably don't, but regardless, this is survivorship bias. 99% of entrepreneurs will never come close to that kind of money and most entrepreneurs will fail. Plenty of data to support this.

"muh debts" if you were actually an entrepreneur you would've had to utilize debt at some point, and you would treat it like a tool instead of some scary boogeyman. Literally one of the only benefits of living in western countries now is being able to borrow thousands of dollars, and not facing criminal charges if you fail to pay them. The worst things that happen when you fail to pay a debt is you get some phone calls from some boomer larping as tommy toughknuckles and your credit score goes down, which doesn't matter because you shouldn't be taking on mortgages or leasing expensive cars if you're broke anyways.

"muh 300k student loans" laughable to present that as the average debt or even somewhat common, even in burgerland the tuition won't even come close to that unless you attend an ivy league school. And there are very few opportunities that would be logical to pick over attending an ivy league school.

If you had stated something like "taking on debt for a business rather than higher education has a much better ROI", I would've taken this post somewhat seriously, but your point that "debt = le bad" just shows that you're a larper and this entire post was an attempt to subtly humble brag that you achieved financial freedom through entrepreneurship or something

 

[chromomatic]

Yeah you just don't make the most out of your opportunities jfl
D1 College, Full Ride Athletic Scholarship, Double Major (Finance, Political Science), Interning at the law firm my Uncle used to work for

 

[thekidd8]

I agree with you, but you forgot one thing. Most people just want a paycheck. They don’t want to worry about chasing clients or not making payroll.

You’re also just a low iq shitskin who’s larping as some serial entrepreneur. Nigga you can barely piece sentences together you not a entrepreneur.

 

[azertyuiop1]

Finessing financial aid is underrated. I've been getting a free ride off gibs alone and more that I spend on random bullshit. And ofc living with parents.

 

[ghk-J]

Giving some arguments why college is complete cope if ur a incel

1. Low ceiling
At most ull be making 100-200k a year and that’s assuming everything goes perfect (you have optimal grades, you get hired to a good job, you don’t get fired, etc)
Ik niggas making 100-200k in a month Letalone in a year and ur not doing that shit from any 9-5
And along with this you also don’t have financial control meaning trying to hard max, traveling the world/geomaxxing, etc etc will be harder

2. Huge life quality minn
Not only will the 4 years ur in college be the worst years of your life but after college you will now be 300k in debt (with accruing interest) but even if evrything goes well you will be working a 9-5 the rest of your life just retirecelling with no hope of any actual life quality

3. Debt
My uncle is 40 making really good money and still owes thousands and thousands of dollars to his school and still paying it off till this day.
Just imagine for the next 20-40 years of your life every single dollar you make isn’t even truly yours

4. No job stability
People constantly make the argument that atleast ull make stable money unlike being an entrepreneur but this is just not true in modern day. Layoffs are happening like crazy. There is no such thing as job security, the moment your business you work at wants more investments they will lay you off. The moment you start performing a little weaker they will bring on a new hire. The moment they can find a way to replace your job with a robot ur gone.
even though entrepreneurship isn’t guaranteed money either once you do start making money your salary is basically uncapped and 1 good month or year can make up for multiple bad months if you know good money management and most people who go from rich to broke is usually due to trying to expand faster than you can handle or just constant years of bad financial or business decisions

5. Won’t retire till your 60-70
In fact statistically speaking most people will just never end up retiring but of the percent that do I’ll do it extremely late in life when basically nothing even matters much anymore

6. No more coworker brutality
You choose who you work with so if you are tired of foid brutality you can finally escape it

7. No guarunteed jobs
Just imagine going hella into debt to get a college degree just for you to not get hired. Now your 300k in debt working at McDonald’s dead end job having to pay rent as well as pay off a ropefuel ammount of money. Now I don’t know the percent of people who never end up getting jobs after college i doubt its very high and it could be due to them not socializing or making connections but still it happens
—

Responding to common counter arguments

1. But its low chance ull succeed as a entreupreneur
That is true but the risk is mainly within the first 1-3 years after the 3rd year your chance of success is significantly higher and most businesses are profitable statistically (not necessarily high profits)

2. But it’s stressful
Yes as an entrepreneur it is very stressful and there’s lots of things you need to learn if you want to succeed but a few years of stress for a life of success beats working till age 80.

3. It’s risky
Yes entrepreneurship is significantly riskier than a 9-5
but it’s also significantly more rewarding than a 9-5. It’s not for everyone if all you want is a livable life and a guaranteed income then a career is for you but if ur open to possibly failing and have nothing to lose (incels have nothing to lose) then entrepreneurship might be the move

4.High startup costs
This is just obviously not true. It depends on which kind of business your starting and whether your doing it online or wanna start small vs a brick and mortar building. A lot of online businesses will cost very little money all you’ll need is a website and supply for whatever your selling

5. You need hella skills
This is again factually false. I have multiple friends who own businesses and their each making upwards of 10-100k a month and their college dropouts with pretty much no skills

The only thing they learned really is marketing but that was after they had already been making good money from their business.
Yes some businesses need high skill and high barrier to entry but those aren’t the kind of businesses you want to start anyways unless your already rich

Now I’m not trying to glorify entrepreneurship or demonize a 9-5 this isn’t like how TikTok gurus make it seem but atleast personally for me I don’t see a college career worth it in comparison to entrepreneurship

My uncle took out a student loan and invested it and made more money than the loan was so he payed back the university and had leftover money cuz he stayed at home instead of going there but he told the university he was needing the money to live on his own at the university

 

[Deleted member 371166]

Giving some arguments why college is complete cope if ur a incel

1. Low ceiling
At most ull be making 100-200k a year and that’s assuming everything goes perfect (you have optimal grades, you get hired to a good job, you don’t get fired, etc)
Ik niggas making 100-200k in a month Letalone in a year and ur not doing that shit from any 9-5
And along with this you also don’t have financial control meaning trying to hard max, traveling the world/geomaxxing, etc etc will be harder

2. Huge life quality minn
Not only will the 4 years ur in college be the worst years of your life but after college you will now be 300k in debt (with accruing interest) but even if evrything goes well you will be working a 9-5 the rest of your life just retirecelling with no hope of any actual life quality

3. Debt
My uncle is 40 making really good money and still owes thousands and thousands of dollars to his school and still paying it off till this day.
Just imagine for the next 20-40 years of your life every single dollar you make isn’t even truly yours

4. No job stability
People constantly make the argument that atleast ull make stable money unlike being an entrepreneur but this is just not true in modern day. Layoffs are happening like crazy. There is no such thing as job security, the moment your business you work at wants more investments they will lay you off. The moment you start performing a little weaker they will bring on a new hire. The moment they can find a way to replace your job with a robot ur gone.
even though entrepreneurship isn’t guaranteed money either once you do start making money your salary is basically uncapped and 1 good month or year can make up for multiple bad months if you know good money management and most people who go from rich to broke is usually due to trying to expand faster than you can handle or just constant years of bad financial or business decisions

5. Won’t retire till your 60-70
In fact statistically speaking most people will just never end up retiring but of the percent that do I’ll do it extremely late in life when basically nothing even matters much anymore

6. No more coworker brutality
You choose who you work with so if you are tired of foid brutality you can finally escape it

7. No guarunteed jobs
Just imagine going hella into debt to get a college degree just for you to not get hired. Now your 300k in debt working at McDonald’s dead end job having to pay rent as well as pay off a ropefuel ammount of money. Now I don’t know the percent of people who never end up getting jobs after college i doubt its very high and it could be due to them not socializing or making connections but still it happens
—

Responding to common counter arguments

1. But its low chance ull succeed as a entreupreneur
That is true but the risk is mainly within the first 1-3 years after the 3rd year your chance of success is significantly higher and most businesses are profitable statistically (not necessarily high profits)

2. But it’s stressful
Yes as an entrepreneur it is very stressful and there’s lots of things you need to learn if you want to succeed but a few years of stress for a life of success beats working till age 80.

3. It’s risky
Yes entrepreneurship is significantly riskier than a 9-5
but it’s also significantly more rewarding than a 9-5. It’s not for everyone if all you want is a livable life and a guaranteed income then a career is for you but if ur open to possibly failing and have nothing to lose (incels have nothing to lose) then entrepreneurship might be the move

4.High startup costs
This is just obviously not true. It depends on which kind of business your starting and whether your doing it online or wanna start small vs a brick and mortar building. A lot of online businesses will cost very little money all you’ll need is a website and supply for whatever your selling

5. You need hella skills
This is again factually false. I have multiple friends who own businesses and their each making upwards of 10-100k a month and their college dropouts with pretty much no skills

The only thing they learned really is marketing but that was after they had already been making good money from their business.
Yes some businesses need high skill and high barrier to entry but those aren’t the kind of businesses you want to start anyways unless your already rich

Now I’m not trying to glorify entrepreneurship or demonize a 9-5 this isn’t like how TikTok gurus make it seem but atleast personally for me I don’t see a college career worth it in comparison to entrepreneurship

It honestly depends on the degree, your connections, and the university you went to imo

Could go to a mid tier university for something like a MET degree, get the whole thing for like 50k, and get like a job for 60 - 80k a year entry if you are connected to firms (just an example)

Its unsurprising university degree itself does not help that much unless you go into business for yourself or have great connections like you are literally competing with people from rich families or better connected people (if you go to a mid tier private university). I'm not talking about a higher tier private one because if you go to one of those you're likely either rich or insanely smart so what I just said doesn't apply.

 

[itsallg3netics]

Giving some arguments why college is complete cope if ur a incel

1. Low ceiling
At most ull be making 100-200k a year and that’s assuming everything goes perfect (you have optimal grades, you get hired to a good job, you don’t get fired, etc)
Ik niggas making 100-200k in a month Letalone in a year and ur not doing that shit from any 9-5
And along with this you also don’t have financial control meaning trying to hard max, traveling the world/geomaxxing, etc etc will be harder

2. Huge life quality minn
Not only will the 4 years ur in college be the worst years of your life but after college you will now be 300k in debt (with accruing interest) but even if evrything goes well you will be working a 9-5 the rest of your life just retirecelling with no hope of any actual life quality

3. Debt
My uncle is 40 making really good money and still owes thousands and thousands of dollars to his school and still paying it off till this day.
Just imagine for the next 20-40 years of your life every single dollar you make isn’t even truly yours

4. No job stability
People constantly make the argument that atleast ull make stable money unlike being an entrepreneur but this is just not true in modern day. Layoffs are happening like crazy. There is no such thing as job security, the moment your business you work at wants more investments they will lay you off. The moment you start performing a little weaker they will bring on a new hire. The moment they can find a way to replace your job with a robot ur gone.
even though entrepreneurship isn’t guaranteed money either once you do start making money your salary is basically uncapped and 1 good month or year can make up for multiple bad months if you know good money management and most people who go from rich to broke is usually due to trying to expand faster than you can handle or just constant years of bad financial or business decisions

5. Won’t retire till your 60-70
In fact statistically speaking most people will just never end up retiring but of the percent that do I’ll do it extremely late in life when basically nothing even matters much anymore

6. No more coworker brutality
You choose who you work with so if you are tired of foid brutality you can finally escape it

7. No guarunteed jobs
Just imagine going hella into debt to get a college degree just for you to not get hired. Now your 300k in debt working at McDonald’s dead end job having to pay rent as well as pay off a ropefuel ammount of money. Now I don’t know the percent of people who never end up getting jobs after college i doubt its very high and it could be due to them not socializing or making connections but still it happens
—

Responding to common counter arguments

1. But its low chance ull succeed as a entreupreneur
That is true but the risk is mainly within the first 1-3 years after the 3rd year your chance of success is significantly higher and most businesses are profitable statistically (not necessarily high profits)

2. But it’s stressful
Yes as an entrepreneur it is very stressful and there’s lots of things you need to learn if you want to succeed but a few years of stress for a life of success beats working till age 80.

3. It’s risky
Yes entrepreneurship is significantly riskier than a 9-5
but it’s also significantly more rewarding than a 9-5. It’s not for everyone if all you want is a livable life and a guaranteed income then a career is for you but if ur open to possibly failing and have nothing to lose (incels have nothing to lose) then entrepreneurship might be the move

4.High startup costs
This is just obviously not true. It depends on which kind of business your starting and whether your doing it online or wanna start small vs a brick and mortar building. A lot of online businesses will cost very little money all you’ll need is a website and supply for whatever your selling

5. You need hella skills
This is again factually false. I have multiple friends who own businesses and their each making upwards of 10-100k a month and their college dropouts with pretty much no skills

The only thing they learned really is marketing but that was after they had already been making good money from their business.
Yes some businesses need high skill and high barrier to entry but those aren’t the kind of businesses you want to start anyways unless your already rich

Now I’m not trying to glorify entrepreneurship or demonize a 9-5 this isn’t like how TikTok gurus make it seem but atleast personally for me I don’t see a college career worth it in comparison to entrepreneurship

College is bullshit no one cares abt ur fucking degree

 

[kranerman23123]

Giving some arguments why college is complete cope if ur a incel

1. Low ceiling
At most ull be making 100-200k a year and that’s assuming everything goes perfect (you have optimal grades, you get hired to a good job, you don’t get fired, etc)
Ik niggas making 100-200k in a month Letalone in a year and ur not doing that shit from any 9-5
And along with this you also don’t have financial control meaning trying to hard max, traveling the world/geomaxxing, etc etc will be harder

2. Huge life quality minn
Not only will the 4 years ur in college be the worst years of your life but after college you will now be 300k in debt (with accruing interest) but even if evrything goes well you will be working a 9-5 the rest of your life just retirecelling with no hope of any actual life quality

3. Debt
My uncle is 40 making really good money and still owes thousands and thousands of dollars to his school and still paying it off till this day.
Just imagine for the next 20-40 years of your life every single dollar you make isn’t even truly yours

4. No job stability
People constantly make the argument that atleast ull make stable money unlike being an entrepreneur but this is just not true in modern day. Layoffs are happening like crazy. There is no such thing as job security, the moment your business you work at wants more investments they will lay you off. The moment you start performing a little weaker they will bring on a new hire. The moment they can find a way to replace your job with a robot ur gone.
even though entrepreneurship isn’t guaranteed money either once you do start making money your salary is basically uncapped and 1 good month or year can make up for multiple bad months if you know good money management and most people who go from rich to broke is usually due to trying to expand faster than you can handle or just constant years of bad financial or business decisions

5. Won’t retire till your 60-70
In fact statistically speaking most people will just never end up retiring but of the percent that do I’ll do it extremely late in life when basically nothing even matters much anymore

6. No more coworker brutality
You choose who you work with so if you are tired of foid brutality you can finally escape it

7. No guarunteed jobs
Just imagine going hella into debt to get a college degree just for you to not get hired. Now your 300k in debt working at McDonald’s dead end job having to pay rent as well as pay off a ropefuel ammount of money. Now I don’t know the percent of people who never end up getting jobs after college i doubt its very high and it could be due to them not socializing or making connections but still it happens
—

Responding to common counter arguments

1. But its low chance ull succeed as a entreupreneur
That is true but the risk is mainly within the first 1-3 years after the 3rd year your chance of success is significantly higher and most businesses are profitable statistically (not necessarily high profits)

2. But it’s stressful
Yes as an entrepreneur it is very stressful and there’s lots of things you need to learn if you want to succeed but a few years of stress for a life of success beats working till age 80.

3. It’s risky
Yes entrepreneurship is significantly riskier than a 9-5
but it’s also significantly more rewarding than a 9-5. It’s not for everyone if all you want is a livable life and a guaranteed income then a career is for you but if ur open to possibly failing and have nothing to lose (incels have nothing to lose) then entrepreneurship might be the move

4.High startup costs
This is just obviously not true. It depends on which kind of business your starting and whether your doing it online or wanna start small vs a brick and mortar building. A lot of online businesses will cost very little money all you’ll need is a website and supply for whatever your selling

5. You need hella skills
This is again factually false. I have multiple friends who own businesses and their each making upwards of 10-100k a month and their college dropouts with pretty much no skills

The only thing they learned really is marketing but that was after they had already been making good money from their business.
Yes some businesses need high skill and high barrier to entry but those aren’t the kind of businesses you want to start anyways unless your already rich

Now I’m not trying to glorify entrepreneurship or demonize a 9-5 this isn’t like how TikTok gurus make it seem but atleast personally for me I don’t see a college career worth it in comparison to entrepreneurship

Literally any avenue will work if you don't give up. Eventually some retard is going to give you money.

 

[mltn2mtn]

Giving some arguments why college is complete cope if ur a incel

1. Low ceiling
At most ull be making 100-200k a year and that’s assuming everything goes perfect (you have optimal grades, you get hired to a good job, you don’t get fired, etc)
Ik niggas making 100-200k in a month Letalone in a year and ur not doing that shit from any 9-5
And along with this you also don’t have financial control meaning trying to hard max, traveling the world/geomaxxing, etc etc will be harder

2. Huge life quality minn
Not only will the 4 years ur in college be the worst years of your life but after college you will now be 300k in debt (with accruing interest) but even if evrything goes well you will be working a 9-5 the rest of your life just retirecelling with no hope of any actual life quality

3. Debt
My uncle is 40 making really good money and still owes thousands and thousands of dollars to his school and still paying it off till this day.
Just imagine for the next 20-40 years of your life every single dollar you make isn’t even truly yours

4. No job stability
People constantly make the argument that atleast ull make stable money unlike being an entrepreneur but this is just not true in modern day. Layoffs are happening like crazy. There is no such thing as job security, the moment your business you work at wants more investments they will lay you off. The moment you start performing a little weaker they will bring on a new hire. The moment they can find a way to replace your job with a robot ur gone.
even though entrepreneurship isn’t guaranteed money either once you do start making money your salary is basically uncapped and 1 good month or year can make up for multiple bad months if you know good money management and most people who go from rich to broke is usually due to trying to expand faster than you can handle or just constant years of bad financial or business decisions

5. Won’t retire till your 60-70
In fact statistically speaking most people will just never end up retiring but of the percent that do I’ll do it extremely late in life when basically nothing even matters much anymore

6. No more coworker brutality
You choose who you work with so if you are tired of foid brutality you can finally escape it

7. No guarunteed jobs
Just imagine going hella into debt to get a college degree just for you to not get hired. Now your 300k in debt working at McDonald’s dead end job having to pay rent as well as pay off a ropefuel ammount of money. Now I don’t know the percent of people who never end up getting jobs after college i doubt its very high and it could be due to them not socializing or making connections but still it happens
—

Responding to common counter arguments

1. But its low chance ull succeed as a entreupreneur
That is true but the risk is mainly within the first 1-3 years after the 3rd year your chance of success is significantly higher and most businesses are profitable statistically (not necessarily high profits)

2. But it’s stressful
Yes as an entrepreneur it is very stressful and there’s lots of things you need to learn if you want to succeed but a few years of stress for a life of success beats working till age 80.

3. It’s risky
Yes entrepreneurship is significantly riskier than a 9-5
but it’s also significantly more rewarding than a 9-5. It’s not for everyone if all you want is a livable life and a guaranteed income then a career is for you but if ur open to possibly failing and have nothing to lose (incels have nothing to lose) then entrepreneurship might be the move

4.High startup costs
This is just obviously not true. It depends on which kind of business your starting and whether your doing it online or wanna start small vs a brick and mortar building. A lot of online businesses will cost very little money all you’ll need is a website and supply for whatever your selling

5. You need hella skills
This is again factually false. I have multiple friends who own businesses and their each making upwards of 10-100k a month and their college dropouts with pretty much no skills

The only thing they learned really is marketing but that was after they had already been making good money from their business.
Yes some businesses need high skill and high barrier to entry but those aren’t the kind of businesses you want to start anyways unless your already rich

Now I’m not trying to glorify entrepreneurship or demonize a 9-5 this isn’t like how TikTok gurus make it seem but atleast personally for me I don’t see a college career worth it in comparison to entrepreneurship

Water, it’s not cope if you’re a incel. One of my friends brothers has low level autism and is acc thriving in college, even though he’s 5”5 and a ltn.

 

[johnnyapple]

Giving some arguments why college is complete cope if ur a incel

1. Low ceiling
At most ull be making 100-200k a year and that’s assuming everything goes perfect (you have optimal grades, you get hired to a good job, you don’t get fired, etc)
Ik niggas making 100-200k in a month Letalone in a year and ur not doing that shit from any 9-5
And along with this you also don’t have financial control meaning trying to hard max, traveling the world/geomaxxing, etc etc will be harder

2. Huge life quality minn
Not only will the 4 years ur in college be the worst years of your life but after college you will now be 300k in debt (with accruing interest) but even if evrything goes well you will be working a 9-5 the rest of your life just retirecelling with no hope of any actual life quality

3. Debt
My uncle is 40 making really good money and still owes thousands and thousands of dollars to his school and still paying it off till this day.
Just imagine for the next 20-40 years of your life every single dollar you make isn’t even truly yours

4. No job stability
People constantly make the argument that atleast ull make stable money unlike being an entrepreneur but this is just not true in modern day. Layoffs are happening like crazy. There is no such thing as job security, the moment your business you work at wants more investments they will lay you off. The moment you start performing a little weaker they will bring on a new hire. The moment they can find a way to replace your job with a robot ur gone.
even though entrepreneurship isn’t guaranteed money either once you do start making money your salary is basically uncapped and 1 good month or year can make up for multiple bad months if you know good money management and most people who go from rich to broke is usually due to trying to expand faster than you can handle or just constant years of bad financial or business decisions

5. Won’t retire till your 60-70
In fact statistically speaking most people will just never end up retiring but of the percent that do I’ll do it extremely late in life when basically nothing even matters much anymore

6. No more coworker brutality
You choose who you work with so if you are tired of foid brutality you can finally escape it

7. No guarunteed jobs
Just imagine going hella into debt to get a college degree just for you to not get hired. Now your 300k in debt working at McDonald’s dead end job having to pay rent as well as pay off a ropefuel ammount of money. Now I don’t know the percent of people who never end up getting jobs after college i doubt its very high and it could be due to them not socializing or making connections but still it happens
—

Responding to common counter arguments

1. But its low chance ull succeed as a entreupreneur
That is true but the risk is mainly within the first 1-3 years after the 3rd year your chance of success is significantly higher and most businesses are profitable statistically (not necessarily high profits)

2. But it’s stressful
Yes as an entrepreneur it is very stressful and there’s lots of things you need to learn if you want to succeed but a few years of stress for a life of success beats working till age 80.

3. It’s risky
Yes entrepreneurship is significantly riskier than a 9-5
but it’s also significantly more rewarding than a 9-5. It’s not for everyone if all you want is a livable life and a guaranteed income then a career is for you but if ur open to possibly failing and have nothing to lose (incels have nothing to lose) then entrepreneurship might be the move

4.High startup costs
This is just obviously not true. It depends on which kind of business your starting and whether your doing it online or wanna start small vs a brick and mortar building. A lot of online businesses will cost very little money all you’ll need is a website and supply for whatever your selling

5. You need hella skills
This is again factually false. I have multiple friends who own businesses and their each making upwards of 10-100k a month and their college dropouts with pretty much no skills

The only thing they learned really is marketing but that was after they had already been making good money from their business.
Yes some businesses need high skill and high barrier to entry but those aren’t the kind of businesses you want to start anyways unless your already rich

Now I’m not trying to glorify entrepreneurship or demonize a 9-5 this isn’t like how TikTok gurus make it seem but atleast personally for me I don’t see a college career worth it in comparison to entrepreneurship

DNR but lol at 100 - 200k a year max

 

[valugoatluvscience]

Giving some arguments why college is complete cope if ur a incel

1. Low ceiling
At most ull be making 100-200k a year and that’s assuming everything goes perfect (you have optimal grades, you get hired to a good job, you don’t get fired, etc)
Ik niggas making 100-200k in a month Letalone in a year and ur not doing that shit from any 9-5
And along with this you also don’t have financial control meaning trying to hard max, traveling the world/geomaxxing, etc etc will be harder

2. Huge life quality minn
Not only will the 4 years ur in college be the worst years of your life but after college you will now be 300k in debt (with accruing interest) but even if evrything goes well you will be working a 9-5 the rest of your life just retirecelling with no hope of any actual life quality

3. Debt
My uncle is 40 making really good money and still owes thousands and thousands of dollars to his school and still paying it off till this day.
Just imagine for the next 20-40 years of your life every single dollar you make isn’t even truly yours

4. No job stability
People constantly make the argument that atleast ull make stable money unlike being an entrepreneur but this is just not true in modern day. Layoffs are happening like crazy. There is no such thing as job security, the moment your business you work at wants more investments they will lay you off. The moment you start performing a little weaker they will bring on a new hire. The moment they can find a way to replace your job with a robot ur gone.
even though entrepreneurship isn’t guaranteed money either once you do start making money your salary is basically uncapped and 1 good month or year can make up for multiple bad months if you know good money management and most people who go from rich to broke is usually due to trying to expand faster than you can handle or just constant years of bad financial or business decisions

5. Won’t retire till your 60-70
In fact statistically speaking most people will just never end up retiring but of the percent that do I’ll do it extremely late in life when basically nothing even matters much anymore

6. No more coworker brutality
You choose who you work with so if you are tired of foid brutality you can finally escape it

7. No guarunteed jobs
Just imagine going hella into debt to get a college degree just for you to not get hired. Now your 300k in debt working at McDonald’s dead end job having to pay rent as well as pay off a ropefuel ammount of money. Now I don’t know the percent of people who never end up getting jobs after college i doubt its very high and it could be due to them not socializing or making connections but still it happens
—

Responding to common counter arguments

1. But its low chance ull succeed as a entreupreneur
That is true but the risk is mainly within the first 1-3 years after the 3rd year your chance of success is significantly higher and most businesses are profitable statistically (not necessarily high profits)

2. But it’s stressful
Yes as an entrepreneur it is very stressful and there’s lots of things you need to learn if you want to succeed but a few years of stress for a life of success beats working till age 80.

3. It’s risky
Yes entrepreneurship is significantly riskier than a 9-5
but it’s also significantly more rewarding than a 9-5. It’s not for everyone if all you want is a livable life and a guaranteed income then a career is for you but if ur open to possibly failing and have nothing to lose (incels have nothing to lose) then entrepreneurship might be the move

4.High startup costs
This is just obviously not true. It depends on which kind of business your starting and whether your doing it online or wanna start small vs a brick and mortar building. A lot of online businesses will cost very little money all you’ll need is a website and supply for whatever your selling

5. You need hella skills
This is again factually false. I have multiple friends who own businesses and their each making upwards of 10-100k a month and their college dropouts with pretty much no skills

The only thing they learned really is marketing but that was after they had already been making good money from their business.
Yes some businesses need high skill and high barrier to entry but those aren’t the kind of businesses you want to start anyways unless your already rich

Now I’m not trying to glorify entrepreneurship or demonize a 9-5 this isn’t like how TikTok gurus make it seem but atleast personally for me I don’t see a college career worth it in comparison to entrepreneurship

don’t put all your eggs in one basket gang. If you have proper time management you’ll be able to do both, this is also why business men / men in power use testosterone because it improves productivity and goal achieving mindset

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Dnr
It’s cope regardless unless you study medicine or something

 

[bugeye]

Tfw you read "college" as "collagen"

 

[Luquier]

Yeah you just don't make the most out of your opportunities jfl
D1 College, Full Ride Athletic Scholarship, Double Major (Finance, Political Science), Interning at the law firm my Uncle used to work for

Just become D1 athlete theory

 

[Luquier]

Getting a decent job is just as hard as successfully running a business tbh