colonization is neither truly good or bad

[LettersfromAgartha]

Colonization could be considered good to you, bringing order and culture to a bunch of savages who havent considered the idea of the wheel. However, colonization only exploits the native population for the betterment of the civilization its colonized by (british, german, french, italian, spanish) to usually mine ores like steel or diamonds and to grow crops (haitians at sugar cane plantations owned by the French). Once influence is gone, chaos goes because of said exploitation. With what happened to Rhodesia, once a British colony that when Britain gave it independence. it turned to Zimbabwe and was in the hands of the native population who were heavily oppressed, no chance to know what's order so they rupture in revolt and civil war turning Zimbabwe to a third world country and crashing the economy to one of the most extreme forms of hyperinflation in human history.

 

[HighLtn]

Colonization is bad. We have wiped out cultures and languages that existed for over a thousand years. We have erased parts of history. Furthermore, we have taken the lives of innocent people. Leopold II, for example, killed over 10 million Congolese..

 

[carpe diem]

Colonization could be considered good to you, bringing order and culture to a bunch of savages who havent considered the idea of the wheel. However, colonization only exploits the native population for the betterment of the civilization its colonized by (british, german, french, italian, spanish) to usually mine ores like steel or diamonds and to grow crops (haitians at sugar cane plantations owned by the French). Once influence is gone, chaos goes because of said exploitation. With what happened to Rhodesia, once a British colony that when Britain gave it independence. it turned to Zimbabwe and was in the hands of the native population who were heavily oppressed, no chance to know what's order so they rupture in revolt and civil war turning Zimbabwe to a third world country and crashing the economy to one of the most extreme forms of hyperinflation in human history.

It's bad

 

[Wicket]

Colonization is bad. We have wiped out cultures and languages that existed for over a thousand years. We have erased parts of history. Furthermore, we have taken the lives of innocent people. Leopold II, for example, killed over 10 million Congolese..

Brought a lot of good shit to many countries tho

 

[LettersfromAgartha]

Colonization is bad. We have wiped out cultures and languages that existed for over a thousand years. We have erased parts of history. Furthermore, we have taken the lives of innocent people. Leopold II, for example, killed over 10 million Congolese..

colonization is why all these immigrants from war torn countries they led down the trash fleet over there for a better life but despise them for the generations of suffering theyve done

 

[LettersfromAgartha]

Brought a lot of good shit to many countries tho

At the cause of ruining them. Only brought them knowledge and culture but lead them to astray.

 

[Wicket]

At the cause of ruining them. Only brought them knowledge and culture but lead them to astray.

Ruining parts of then wouldn't be awful tho. Such as when the British put a stop to the burning of widows in India

 

[LettersfromAgartha]

Ruining parts of then wouldn't be awful tho. Such as when the British put a stop to the burning of widows in India

India is very different, india is considered a cradle of civilization. Despite british rule, they still rule industries like pharmaceuticals and such. Im talking about nations colonized and left to disarray by neglect and civil war. Countries like zimbabwe, liberia, congo for example.

 

[tes12]

Colonization of the Americas = good
Colonization of everywhere else = bad

 

[HighLtn]

Brought a lot of good shit to many countries tho

No, were still exploiting them.

 

[LettersfromAgartha]

Colonization of the Americas = good
Colonization of everywhere else = bad

American colonization is different because the united states still exist. It started off as 13 colonies on the east and expanded west engulfing the rest of the country. America is also very different as its based off freedom, allowing many cultures from different parts of the world to come here and enjoy their freedom of religion, freedom of speech and press. The difference about european colonization is they come to bumfuck africa to enslave them all, instill their beliefs on them and then dip once they find them a liability to hold.

 

[LettersfromAgartha]

No, were still exploiting them.

Its more so private companies coming to countries with no labor laws because of shit government and practically enslaving them with poor pay

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

Then you should be able to say the same for mass immigration.

 

[LettersfromAgartha]

Then you should be able to say the same for mass immigration.

i did, read my thread. Mass immigration is caused when the neglect of colonial rule caused them to seek the life they see in their oppressors. The crimes caused by mass immigration is just cultural shock and hatred for their colonial rulers. They wouldnt leave their country if it wasnt a shithole

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

i did, read my thread. Mass immigration is caused when the neglect of colonial rule caused them to seek the life they see in their oppressors. The crimes caused by mass immigration is just cultural shock and hatred for their colonial rulers. They wouldnt leave their country if it wasnt a shithole

Fair enough. I skimmed through it very quickly.

 

[tes12]

American colonization is different because the united states still exist. It started off as 13 colonies on the east and expanded west engulfing the rest of the country. America is also very different as its based off freedom, allowing many cultures from different parts of the world to come here and enjoy their freedom of religion, freedom of speech and press. The difference about european colonization is they come to bumfuck africa to enslave them all, instill their beliefs on them and then dip once they find them a liability to hold.

Yes colonization disrupted those countries which was detrimental to their development, many nations are still recovering from the effects. It also allows people to justify the very negative aspects of immigration as it as seen as a consequence of colonization. Africa will have 4 billon people by 2100 and they all plan to leave for Europe. Good luck trying to prevent that as long as people still have "guilt" over something they never even did. There is no "good" in any of that, it would have been much better if colonization had not occurred as it may have prevented the migration crisis we see today. The benefits of colonization may have been enjoyed in the past, but now it is time to live with the negatives, which heavily outweigh the positives.

Colonization of the Americas was far too long ago to care about, and they created great countries that we can all enjoy to live in.

 

[tes12]

Colonization is bad. We have wiped out cultures and languages that existed for over a thousand years. We have erased parts of history. Furthermore, we have taken the lives of innocent people. Leopold II, for example, killed over 10 million Congolese..

King Hochschild’s Hoax

An absurdly deceptive book on Congolese rubber production is better described as historical fiction.

www.theamericanconservative.com

Fake news

 

[LettersfromAgartha]

Yes colonization disrupted those countries which was detrimental to their development, many nations are still recovering from the effects. It also allows people to justify the very negative aspects of immigration as it as seen as a consequence of colonization. Africa will have 4 billon people by 2100 and they all plan to leave for Europe. Good luck trying to prevent that as long as people still have "guilt" over something they never even did. There is no "good" in any of that, it would have been much better if colonization had not occurred as it may have prevented the migration crisis we see today. The benefits of colonization may have been enjoyed in the past, but now it is time to live with the negatives, which heavily outweigh the positives.

Colonization of the Americas was far too long ago to care about, and they created great countries that we can all enjoy to live in.

The european countries ruined themselves and the civilizations of others for simple greed. Wanting resources. in the end, they got it but at what cost?

 

[Whatever]

History is amoral and needs to be looked at non moralistically, so without labeling things as good or bad, to be understood fully.

Obviously colonialism has its upsides and massive downsides. But one thing I’d say for sure is that the downsides don’t fly in this world anymore, there’s too much awareness. Israel genociding the Palestinians is now more harmful to their own interests than it was in the ‘40s, ‘50s, ‘60s, when it wasn’t any better, it’s just that now the whole world has seen the videos and that delegitimizes their authority. Or with France, they’ve been exploiting Africa in different ways for centuries, but it wasn’t until very recently that the whole world has access to information on exactly what goes on in Mali and Niger. So right now the people atop these colonial systems look like the Romanovs in 1916.

 

[sick kunt31]

says the nigga who looks Jewish and hispanic

 

[LettersfromAgartha]

says the nigga who looks Jewish and hispanic

how the fuck you know that

 

[sick kunt31]

how the fuck you know that

you literally show your face on blast @Mess

 

[LettersfromAgartha]

History is amoral and needs to be looked at non moralistically, so without labeling things as good or bad, to be understood fully.

Obviously colonialism has its upsides and massive downsides. But one thing I’d say for sure is that the downsides don’t fly in this world anymore, there’s too much awareness. Israel genociding the Palestinians is now more harmful to their own interests than it was in the ‘40s, ‘50s, ‘60s, when it wasn’t any better, it’s just that now the whole world has seen the videos and that delegitimizes their authority. Or with France, they’ve been exploiting Africa in different ways for centuries, but it wasn’t until very recently that the whole world has access to information on exactly what goes on in Mali and Niger. So right now the people atop these colonial systems look like the Romanovs in 1916.

Yes, im not thinking of it morally but more systematically. Colonization only benefits the oppressors, putting europeans in charge of their government instead of the native population. Breeding with their women and taking their resources leaving them in poverty. Indoctrinating them with their culture and religion. Sure, its under order while colonial rule last until the native population either A. revolts B. Gain its independance from their colonizers due to it being a liability(like with what happened to the british east india company in india) and they back away. Either way, it leads to a low trust society.\

However, colonial rule doesnt stop yet. These countries went to private companies to go to places like the ivory coast and nigeria (shell and nestle) to further continue exploitation but without putting a nation on blast.

 

[LettersfromAgartha]

you literally show your face on blast @Mess

i forgot about that

 

[sick kunt31]

i forgot about that

well if you are you look like a combination of ethncities

 

[LettersfromAgartha]

well if you are you look like a combination of ethncities

Yes indeed i am. im a mutt.

 

[sick kunt31]

Yes indeed i am. im a mutt.

ok

 

[LettersfromAgartha]

ok

I come from honduras. Im partially mixed with anglo and black

 

[sick kunt31]

I come from honduras. Im partially mixed with anglo and black

we can tell

 

[LettersfromAgartha]

we can tell

thank you

 

[sick kunt31]

thank you

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