Confused about my pre-lifting frame

[ZyzzReincarnate]

Over the years gymcelling roidceling and whatnot throughout my teens up until now, I've developed quite a decent frame but definitely always had a good base / genetics for it, but some photos of me pre-lifting I look like a framecel in and some of them i don't and its quite confusing tbh. makes me wonder how much my frame actually grew from lifting/roiding all these years

framecel here (16)

looks pretty good here honestly literally taken seconds apart from photo above

now 23y/o post prohormones sarms roidz peptides all that shit

does this look like more of a massive deltoid/muscle-mass difference or a mix between hella frame growth + deltoids?

 

[Kartvelian]

bro im gonna start gym first time tomorrow do u have any advice

 

[confirmgy]

Over the years gymcelling roidceling and whatnot throughout my teens up until now, I've developed quite a decent frame but definitely always had a good base / genetics for it, but some photos of me pre-lifting I look like a framecel in and some of them i don't and its quite confusing tbh. makes me wonder how much my frame actually grew from lifting/roiding all these years

framecel here (16)
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looks pretty good here honestly literally taken seconds apart from photo above
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now 23y/o post prohormones sarms roidz peptides all that shit
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does this look like more of a massive deltoid/muscle-mass difference or a mix between hella frame growth + deltoids?

Can you explain your pharmaceutical use? Such as what times in your life you hopped on/off, what compounds you actually used, the dosages and the progression of your height + weight + bidelt width? I know it’s high effort but it would do numbers on the forum so u should consider it. Mirin the glow up, I think it’s 80% clavicle width and 20% delt muscle growth

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

bro im gonna start gym first time tomorrow do u have any advice

Diet is super important when u start and so is resting adequately. depending on ur genetics and starting point (leanskinny, skinnyfat, or fat) ur macros will be different so whats ur starting point look like?

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

Can you explain your pharmaceutical use? Such as what times in your life you hopped on/off, what compounds you actually used, the dosages and the progression of your height + weight + bidelt width? I know it’s high effort but it would do numbers on the forum so u should consider it. Mirin the glow up, I think it’s 80% clavicle width and 20% delt muscle growth

It's not over for all of you, there is still hope left.

in a year and a half or so, (16-17 yrs old) i completely transformed the way i look thanks to lifting, roids, vitamins, and lifestyle changes. if you're still in puberty ENHANCE IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE! inject T, take sarms, prohormones, peptides, anything you can get ur hands on. in my case...

looksmax.org

^ this is what i did throughout my teens, old post in here. i started roiding at 19. 400 test+50 var for 6 weeks then went to 250 test 150 tren ace 50 var for the next 8 weeks afterwards with the addition of igf1-lr3 (forgot dose lol) and melanotan 2. real gear for sure definitely skyrocketed my development more than the prohormones/sarms did but ye

heres some before/after pics of my first official roid cycle:

right before roidz; far left 17.5, 18, far right fresh 19 (feb 5 2021)

<- Feb 5, 2021 i believe i was about 185lbs 6'3 at this point

first cycle started on march 27, 2021

<- april 12, 2021 (started melanotan) 205lbs

<-- april 23, 2021 (more melanotanned now)

<-- may 20, day 1 of tren (400test 50var -> 250 test 150 tren 50 var) 215lbs

<- june 17, 215-220lbs prob dont remember cuz i got leaner but i have thrown in the igf1-lr3 at this point

<-- june 26 def 220lbs here and pretty much marks the end of my first blast

 

[Sadist]

Over the years gymcelling roidceling and whatnot throughout my teens up until now, I've developed quite a decent frame but definitely always had a good base / genetics for it, but some photos of me pre-lifting I look like a framecel in and some of them i don't and its quite confusing tbh. makes me wonder how much my frame actually grew from lifting/roiding all these years

framecel here (16)
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looks pretty good here honestly literally taken seconds apart from photo above
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View attachment 4356110View attachment 4356113

now 23y/o post prohormones sarms roidz peptides all that shit
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does this look like more of a massive deltoid/muscle-mass difference or a mix between hella frame growth + deltoids?

i ask the same question

 

[Kartvelian]

Diet is super important when u start and so is resting adequately. depending on ur genetics and starting point (leanskinny, skinnyfat, or fat) ur macros will be different so whats ur starting point look like?

i can send body in dm but skinny, some love handles and super fat face. ig skinnyfat (183cm 80kg)

 

[confirmgy]

It's not over for all of you, there is still hope left.

in a year and a half or so, (16-17 yrs old) i completely transformed the way i look thanks to lifting, roids, vitamins, and lifestyle changes. if you're still in puberty ENHANCE IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE! inject T, take sarms, prohormones, peptides, anything you can get ur hands on. in my case...

looksmax.org

^ this is what i did throughout my teens, old post in here. i started roiding at 19. 400 test+50 var for 6 weeks then went to 250 test 150 tren ace 50 var for the next 8 weeks afterwards with the addition of igf1-lr3 (forgot dose lol) and melanotan 2. real gear for sure definitely skyrocketed my development more than the prohormones/sarms did but ye

heres some before/after pics of my first official roid cycle:

right before roidz; far left 17.5, 18, far right fresh 19 (feb 5 2021)
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View attachment 4356264 <- Feb 5, 2021 i believe i was about 185lbs 6'3 at this point

first cycle started on march 27, 2021


View attachment 4356273<- april 12, 2021 (started melanotan) 205lbs

View attachment 4356275<-- april 23, 2021 (more melanotanned now)
View attachment 4356289<-- may 20, day 1 of tren (400test 50var -> 250 test 150 tren 50 var) 215lbs

View attachment 4356300 <- june 17, 215-220lbs prob dont remember cuz i got leaner but i have thrown in the igf1-lr3 at this point

View attachment 4356317 <-- june 26 def 220lbs here and pretty much marks the end of my first blast

damn bro thank you so much for showing that mirin so fucking hard. did you grow much in height? considering you started roiding fairly late in puberty from the looks of it. not sure if you said it already in the post you linked, ill read it now

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

damn bro thank you so much for showing that mirin so fucking hard. did you grow much in height? considering you started roiding fairly late in puberty from the looks of it. not sure if you said it already in the post you linked, ill read it now

i gained an inch at 19 from igf i think haha

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

Jfl at this photo. maybe i did already have a pretty solid frame to begin with. looks so weird as an emaciated fgt. just turned 16 here was lifting for like a week or two at this point i think