The real problem with manlets even after they "ascend"

I’m 5’6 and seriously considering on giving up on gymcelling. Just have a model physique rn and try to maintain it. Would be better to get limb lengthening surgery or cope by becoming a massive gymcel?
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Outdated, 5'9 was the average like 15 years ago, it isn't the case for zoomer males. Have you been to an american college campus? go there as a 5'8 or 5'9 male and be heightmogged by most men. It isn't even the average in the UK either, dunno why people keep parroting this outdated statement. I'm 5'8.5 and heightmogged by 80% of men minimum, @SecularIslamist is 5'7.5 and has claimed he is heightmogged by 90% of men so it's really not that unrealistic when i say 80% even though people mock me and say it's fake, it's clearly not when the average height is 5'10-5'11 for zoomers in the UK.
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Are these increased innovations in the room with us right now???
heh just kidding, i'm not a fan of it because simply increasing your tibia or leg length doesn't really fix things, your proportions, limb lengths play a role and your legs will be weak as fuck after LL i'm pretty sure and you'll never be as strong as a natural so i'm not really sure how good it would be if you ever got into a fight. I'm 5'8.5, i wake up at 5'9 but after few hours go down to 5'8.5, unfortunately this is 1.5 - 2 inches below the average (5'10 - 5'10.5) so it's really brutal.
Cope I'm a 5'9 manlet torso with 6'6 legs and a 17" bidelt at 6'2" actual height and I'm doing very well and benefit greatly from the heightpill and my comically oversized tibia
 
Lets say you are 5'8 or 5'9 and "ascend", you go from a LTN to a HTN with surgeries, etc. You finally get a girl who is pretty hot and ofcourse women love going out so you can't just rot at home with her all day, you have to take her out on dates to places where there are going to be lots of people. The main thing here is that there are going to be SINGLE MEN who will instantly focus on you like a hawk 1 mile in the sky looking down at its prey, taller guys with bigger frames will instantly see you as weak, they don't care that you are "HTN" or whatever, they see a small man with a smaller frame. On your own, they simply wouldn't bother engaging with you or giving you any attention because of their superiority complex, but since you are with a hot woman and they are single, this triggers a rage in them, they feel entitled that they should have that woman instead of you because they are taller even though they most likely are uglier facially.

Now what happens when there's 2 guys or 3 together who see you as weak manlet and then come for you to steal your girl, what the fuck are you going to do?
Women can say whatever they want but the truth is that they are attracted to the strongest most alpha male possible, this is partially why they like tall men because they know they can protect and their stature alone is enough to intimidate other men and demands respect. They love 6'4 ogres with massive frames who are gymcelled because such guys brutally mog every guy in their vicinity without even lifting a finger, it is the law of nature. The biggest and strongest predator reigns supreme, all the weaker ones look down in submission, this is a universal law, you will see it with dogs, cats, lions, tigers, the list goes on. When a bigger, stronger male approaches, the weaker and smaller male submits because he knows he is completely at the mercy of the genetically superior specimen and ofcourse the alpha usually spares the beta because it would cost too much energy to beat them to a pulp unless ofcourse.... there is a woman he can steal from the weaker male and this does occur. See: Lions. Male lions usually have prides, multiple females around them, there can be either a lone male with a smaller pride, or two or three males with a bigger pride. What happens? Stronger, more alpha Male lions intrude into the lions "territory" and kill the weaker smaller male and then what? the females submit and accept the bigger and stronger alpha lion who conquered their mate, so they now willingly breed with him and carry his cubs instead. This is nature, the strong simply kill the weak and take the females. Now human beings are a little different because we have the rule of law, the threat of being imprisoned keeps the alpha males in check, they know they cannot simply go up to betas, stomp their head in and take their woman, so they do what they can which is to humiliate the weaker, smaller manlet male who is with a hot woman, they do this right in front of the woman to show they are the dominant male and we all know how women work, once they see you humiliated, emasculated, they lose all respect for you and your relationship is over at that point. Even if you confront them and fight, this gives them a reason to now legally beat the shit out of you without going to jail. Your foid is going to think nothing of you once it's all done and you're back home, she will already be thinking about how to ditch you and find a superior alpha male who will dominate other men.
Women actually get off on their partner dominating other males, it makes them extremely wet as this is a biological programmed behaviour for our early ancestors who used to kill each other and the strongest reigned supreme. You guys obviously have seen it all the time when some decent looking girl is walking around with an absolute ogre subhuman looking tall guy, his only redeeming feature being that he is like 6'3 or 6'4, his face is an absolute subhuman mess but he still automatically mogs every manlet because he makes them look like a child in comparison and his gf gets off on this. And because women are retarded and think taller guy = bigger dick.
This "problem" has no solution. A manlet simply cannot go out with an attractive woman because he will be preyed on by other men and there's nothing he can do. Taller men also try to "subtly" mog you in front of your girl, they'll stand close to you on purpose trying to show you're short and they're tall and then look at your gf, they'll try to talk down to you in any interaction, the list goes on. You think those same taller guys would do this to a 6'2-6'4 jacked dominant male with a beard clearly showing high testosterone/primal indicators? Never. They know better, they know the alpha will humiliate them in front of his girl which will only make her want him more which is why their beta behaviour comes out and they try to get away from the tall dominant alpha male and usually guys like this will keep their distance and not get close, they know the alpha may just mock them or try to fight them even if they haven't disrespected him like they would to a manlet. His very presence alone makes betas cower away. The tall alpha doesn't usually mock manlets, he knows they are not even competition, he sees the other "lesser" taller men and makes sure to show his girl and all other women in his vicinity that he is the dominant one. The same way the alpha dominant lion in a pride bullies the other younger, weaker males to keep them in check, he makes sure they cannot breed with the females and only he gets to do that and once they are bigger, he forces them out of the pride as the only other way is to kill them. When the alpha male dominant lion walks towards a lesser male, the lesser male or even female gets on their back to defend, they don't even try to take on the Alpha in a head on collision as they know the result will end in their death.

Now you guys can say "cope" or whatever other nonsense but you know it's true if you have actual life experience. If you have a gf and are tall/jacked or are a manlet, you've seen and experienced both sides of this happening. This is why i have never been a fan of "prettyboys", especially the guys who go this route and are not tall/big boned. You will be seen as weak by bigger, stronger men IRL and your girl will be taken. The only way prettyboy works is when the guy is like 6'4 and naturally big boned with a big frame, his frame/size alone will ensure men think twice before challenging him regardless of him appearing to be a prettyboy, actual prettyboys like this are not weak at all. The world is full of men who are looking to prey on the weak, being weak as a man is not permissible, you will be "buck broken" so to say.

@SecularIslamist i told you this very thing quite some time ago but nobody seems to listen. You go out and you see an attractive woman with a taller, dominant man, he's constantly scanning for any threats and will check any male who even tries to get close to his woman to try and sneakily attract her. This is the law of nature and our laws that protect us can only do so much. GL getting that HTB who will have every man oogling at her thinking how they can get rid of you and take her when you go out. Hell, guys are so despearte these days, even a MTB will get stares and people approaching her and disrespecting you as a manlet as if you are not even there, as if you don't even exist. I have seen this IRL myself, a manlet with a cute MTB, some tall guy approaches her, calls her pretty and asks for her number, the manlet just stares at him and is entirely disrespected. His girl sees he is a beta and loses respect for him and the relationship is soon over or she ends up cheating not long after. Muslimcels can somewhat avoid this by making sure their girl is in hijab and this usually keeps men away as for one, they know the woman is married and two depending on where you live, there are two risks. Disrespecting a muslim man can result in him disappearing for 10 minutes and coming back with 10 of his cousins with baseball bats who put you in the hospital, and then there's also the risk of jail as you can easily be indicted for racism/racial attack if the man defends his wife and you beat him up anyways, police love putting away "racists", there's also the fact that ethnics are tribal, especially muslims. One muslim man is being attacked by a white guy and 5 other muslim men who don't even know him but were across the street will come and beat the shit out of the attacker just because tribalism and the protection that religion provides them, making it mandatory to defend their "brother". They do this also because they know if they allow it to happen, the same can happen to them/their girl and nobody will help. Also, everyone knows ethnics are shorter/weaker and so there is strength in numbers. No matter how tall/dominant an alpha is, he isn't taking on 5 grown men at once, and so he will back down and leave with his respect in tact knowing not to challenge the group. This is however seperate from me talking about single male manlet out with his girl though but thought i'd address it anyways.



Here's a quote from none other than Salludon. Even he understand looks alone are nothing, other men will try him if he doesn't gymcel/look dominant/alpha and luckily he's 6'1 so not much of an issue for him.

So it's over my fellow manlets, no matter what you do, it's fucking over. There's no "ascending" with surgeries/etc because you're still going to get your girl stolen by 6'4 alpha males. Your only hope is to carry a knife with you whenever you leave the house, most men will instantly disengage when they see the knife, their superior stature isn't going to help when you gut them like a fish but ultimately this isn't a solution as you will just run into problems if you do defend yourself against a lanklet.
this is some goofy cope story, the majority of men if they see a man with a women romantically out in public regardless if said man is short there not gonna come in and demand said women come with them instead.
 
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I got no diagnose yet.
Just ment that you kiss tall men ass so much, you call them an alpha lion.:forcedsmile:
The laws of nature are universal. The alpha male lion kills the weaker lion and breeds his pack.
 
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The laws of nature are universal. The alpha male lion kills the weaker lion and breeds his pack.
Humans are not lions. Lot's of short men used to breed, it's why there exists so many of us. Pornography and feminism and internet addiction just destroys human connection.
If some drunk tall guy wants to take your girl, put pepperspray in his face, he will cry, problem solved.
Can a small lion do that to the big alpha lion? :lul:
 
Humans are not lions. Lot's of short men used to breed, it's why there exists so many of us. Pornography and feminism and internet addiction just destroys human connection.
If some drunk tall guy wants to take your girl, put pepperspray in his face, he will cry, problem solved.
Can a small lion do that to the big alpha lion? :lul:
In the past women simply didn't have access to all men like they currently do with dating apps/social media so they were forced to pick men around them, the average height was also a lot shorter. Yes, those things do indeed destroy human connection/spirit.
I addressed this "answer" of fighting back in my original post. If you use a weapon and they don't, you will be charged for assault/battery with a weapon. Also, what if the pepper spray is disarmed or things happen so quickly you don't get a chance to do anything? The alpha male lion will simply overpower you and take your woman. Even if you pepper spray him, your woman will lose all respect for you. You were challenged and acted as a female with pepper spray instead of accepting the challenge. Women are very primal and will lose respect for you and not long after cheat on you or leave you. They will see your response to the challenge as weak and feminine, they would rather you fight the alpha male lion and this is a lose/lose situation because you can't win, you can get knocked out/badly beaten or humiliated and emasculated by the bigger man which will result in losing your woman. There is no winning in such a scenario, that is the whole point. The alpha male lion wins no matter what, your girl is gonna leave sooner or later aswell due to her innate biological programming seeing you as a weakling and not fit to protect her.
 
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Lets say you are 5'8 or 5'9 and "ascend", you go from a LTN to a HTN with surgeries, etc. You finally get a girl who is pretty hot and ofcourse women love going out so you can't just rot at home with her all day, you have to take her out on dates to places where there are going to be lots of people. The main thing here is that there are going to be SINGLE MEN who will instantly focus on you like a hawk 1 mile in the sky looking down at its prey, taller guys with bigger frames will instantly see you as weak, they don't care that you are "HTN" or whatever, they see a small man with a smaller frame. On your own, they simply wouldn't bother engaging with you or giving you any attention because of their superiority complex, but since you are with a hot woman and they are single, this triggers a rage in them, they feel entitled that they should have that woman instead of you because they are taller even though they most likely are uglier facially.

Now what happens when there's 2 guys or 3 together who see you as weak manlet and then come for you to steal your girl, what the fuck are you going to do?
Women can say whatever they want but the truth is that they are attracted to the strongest most alpha male possible, this is partially why they like tall men because they know they can protect and their stature alone is enough to intimidate other men and demands respect. They love 6'4 ogres with massive frames who are gymcelled because such guys brutally mog every guy in their vicinity without even lifting a finger, it is the law of nature. The biggest and strongest predator reigns supreme, all the weaker ones look down in submission, this is a universal law, you will see it with dogs, cats, lions, tigers, the list goes on. When a bigger, stronger male approaches, the weaker and smaller male submits because he knows he is completely at the mercy of the genetically superior specimen and ofcourse the alpha usually spares the beta because it would cost too much energy to beat them to a pulp unless ofcourse.... there is a woman he can steal from the weaker male and this does occur. See: Lions. Male lions usually have prides, multiple females around them, there can be either a lone male with a smaller pride, or two or three males with a bigger pride. What happens? Stronger, more alpha Male lions intrude into the lions "territory" and kill the weaker smaller male and then what? the females submit and accept the bigger and stronger alpha lion who conquered their mate, so they now willingly breed with him and carry his cubs instead. This is nature, the strong simply kill the weak and take the females. Now human beings are a little different because we have the rule of law, the threat of being imprisoned keeps the alpha males in check, they know they cannot simply go up to betas, stomp their head in and take their woman, so they do what they can which is to humiliate the weaker, smaller manlet male who is with a hot woman, they do this right in front of the woman to show they are the dominant male and we all know how women work, once they see you humiliated, emasculated, they lose all respect for you and your relationship is over at that point. Even if you confront them and fight, this gives them a reason to now legally beat the shit out of you without going to jail. Your foid is going to think nothing of you once it's all done and you're back home, she will already be thinking about how to ditch you and find a superior alpha male who will dominate other men.
Women actually get off on their partner dominating other males, it makes them extremely wet as this is a biological programmed behaviour for our early ancestors who used to kill each other and the strongest reigned supreme. You guys obviously have seen it all the time when some decent looking girl is walking around with an absolute ogre subhuman looking tall guy, his only redeeming feature being that he is like 6'3 or 6'4, his face is an absolute subhuman mess but he still automatically mogs every manlet because he makes them look like a child in comparison and his gf gets off on this. And because women are retarded and think taller guy = bigger dick.
This "problem" has no solution. A manlet simply cannot go out with an attractive woman because he will be preyed on by other men and there's nothing he can do. Taller men also try to "subtly" mog you in front of your girl, they'll stand close to you on purpose trying to show you're short and they're tall and then look at your gf, they'll try to talk down to you in any interaction, the list goes on. You think those same taller guys would do this to a 6'2-6'4 jacked dominant male with a beard clearly showing high testosterone/primal indicators? Never. They know better, they know the alpha will humiliate them in front of his girl which will only make her want him more which is why their beta behaviour comes out and they try to get away from the tall dominant alpha male and usually guys like this will keep their distance and not get close, they know the alpha may just mock them or try to fight them even if they haven't disrespected him like they would to a manlet. His very presence alone makes betas cower away. The tall alpha doesn't usually mock manlets, he knows they are not even competition, he sees the other "lesser" taller men and makes sure to show his girl and all other women in his vicinity that he is the dominant one. The same way the alpha dominant lion in a pride bullies the other younger, weaker males to keep them in check, he makes sure they cannot breed with the females and only he gets to do that and once they are bigger, he forces them out of the pride as the only other way is to kill them. When the alpha male dominant lion walks towards a lesser male, the lesser male or even female gets on their back to defend, they don't even try to take on the Alpha in a head on collision as they know the result will end in their death.

Now you guys can say "cope" or whatever other nonsense but you know it's true if you have actual life experience. If you have a gf and are tall/jacked or are a manlet, you've seen and experienced both sides of this happening. This is why i have never been a fan of "prettyboys", especially the guys who go this route and are not tall/big boned. You will be seen as weak by bigger, stronger men IRL and your girl will be taken. The only way prettyboy works is when the guy is like 6'4 and naturally big boned with a big frame, his frame/size alone will ensure men think twice before challenging him regardless of him appearing to be a prettyboy, actual prettyboys like this are not weak at all. The world is full of men who are looking to prey on the weak, being weak as a man is not permissible, you will be "buck broken" so to say.

@SecularIslamist i told you this very thing quite some time ago but nobody seems to listen. You go out and you see an attractive woman with a taller, dominant man, he's constantly scanning for any threats and will check any male who even tries to get close to his woman to try and sneakily attract her. This is the law of nature and our laws that protect us can only do so much. GL getting that HTB who will have every man oogling at her thinking how they can get rid of you and take her when you go out. Hell, guys are so despearte these days, even a MTB will get stares and people approaching her and disrespecting you as a manlet as if you are not even there, as if you don't even exist. I have seen this IRL myself, a manlet with a cute MTB, some tall guy approaches her, calls her pretty and asks for her number, the manlet just stares at him and is entirely disrespected. His girl sees he is a beta and loses respect for him and the relationship is soon over or she ends up cheating not long after. Muslimcels can somewhat avoid this by making sure their girl is in hijab and this usually keeps men away as for one, they know the woman is married and two depending on where you live, there are two risks. Disrespecting a muslim man can result in him disappearing for 10 minutes and coming back with 10 of his cousins with baseball bats who put you in the hospital, and then there's also the risk of jail as you can easily be indicted for racism/racial attack if the man defends his wife and you beat him up anyways, police love putting away "racists", there's also the fact that ethnics are tribal, especially muslims. One muslim man is being attacked by a white guy and 5 other muslim men who don't even know him but were across the street will come and beat the shit out of the attacker just because tribalism and the protection that religion provides them, making it mandatory to defend their "brother". They do this also because they know if they allow it to happen, the same can happen to them/their girl and nobody will help. Also, everyone knows ethnics are shorter/weaker and so there is strength in numbers. No matter how tall/dominant an alpha is, he isn't taking on 5 grown men at once, and so he will back down and leave with his respect in tact knowing not to challenge the group. This is however seperate from me talking about single male manlet out with his girl though but thought i'd address it anyways.



Here's a quote from none other than Salludon. Even he understand looks alone are nothing, other men will try him if he doesn't gymcel/look dominant/alpha and luckily he's 6'1 so not much of an issue for him.

So it's over my fellow manlets, no matter what you do, it's fucking over. There's no "ascending" with surgeries/etc because you're still going to get your girl stolen by 6'4 alpha males. Your only hope is to carry a knife with you whenever you leave the house, most men will instantly disengage when they see the knife, their superior stature isn't going to help when you gut them like a fish but ultimately this isn't a solution as you will just run into problems if you do defend yourself against a lanklet.
being here for 3 years and u think niggas will read this jfl
 
In the past women simply didn't have access to all men like they currently do with dating apps/social media so they were forced to pick men around them, the average height was also a lot shorter. Yes, those things do indeed destroy human connection/spirit.
I addressed this "answer" of fighting back in my original post. If you use a weapon and they don't, you will be charged for assault/battery with a weapon. Also, what if the pepper spray is disarmed or things happen so quickly you don't get a chance to do anything? The alpha male lion will simply overpower you and take your woman. Even if you pepper spray him, your woman will lose all respect for you. You were challenged and acted as a female with pepper spray instead of accepting the challenge. Women are very primal and will lose respect for you and not long after cheat on you or leave you. They will see your response to the challenge as weak and feminine, they would rather you fight the alpha male lion and this is a lose/lose situation because you can't win, you can get knocked out/badly beaten or humiliated and emasculated by the bigger man which will result in losing your woman. There is no winning in such a scenario, that is the whole point. The alpha male lion wins no matter what, your girl is gonna leave sooner or later aswell due to her innate biological programming seeing you as a weakling and not fit to protect her.
A tall man is not a fucking lion!
Even a female lion can kill every man in the world 1 vs 1.
I rather go make him cry with pepper spray.
Or fight and win.
Being tall doesn't automatically make you win a fight.
Your mindset is poisonous for your self worth.
 
Lets say you are 5'8 or 5'9 and "ascend", you go from a LTN to a HTN with surgeries, etc. You finally get a girl who is pretty hot and ofcourse women love going out so you can't just rot at home with her all day, you have to take her out on dates to places where there are going to be lots of people. The main thing here is that there are going to be SINGLE MEN who will instantly focus on you like a hawk 1 mile in the sky looking down at its prey, taller guys with bigger frames will instantly see you as weak, they don't care that you are "HTN" or whatever, they see a small man with a smaller frame. On your own, they simply wouldn't bother engaging with you or giving you any attention because of their superiority complex, but since you are with a hot woman and they are single, this triggers a rage in them, they feel entitled that they should have that woman instead of you because they are taller even though they most likely are uglier facially.

Now what happens when there's 2 guys or 3 together who see you as weak manlet and then come for you to steal your girl, what the fuck are you going to do?
Women can say whatever they want but the truth is that they are attracted to the strongest most alpha male possible, this is partially why they like tall men because they know they can protect and their stature alone is enough to intimidate other men and demands respect. They love 6'4 ogres with massive frames who are gymcelled because such guys brutally mog every guy in their vicinity without even lifting a finger, it is the law of nature. The biggest and strongest predator reigns supreme, all the weaker ones look down in submission, this is a universal law, you will see it with dogs, cats, lions, tigers, the list goes on. When a bigger, stronger male approaches, the weaker and smaller male submits because he knows he is completely at the mercy of the genetically superior specimen and ofcourse the alpha usually spares the beta because it would cost too much energy to beat them to a pulp unless ofcourse.... there is a woman he can steal from the weaker male and this does occur. See: Lions. Male lions usually have prides, multiple females around them, there can be either a lone male with a smaller pride, or two or three males with a bigger pride. What happens? Stronger, more alpha Male lions intrude into the lions "territory" and kill the weaker smaller male and then what? the females submit and accept the bigger and stronger alpha lion who conquered their mate, so they now willingly breed with him and carry his cubs instead. This is nature, the strong simply kill the weak and take the females. Now human beings are a little different because we have the rule of law, the threat of being imprisoned keeps the alpha males in check, they know they cannot simply go up to betas, stomp their head in and take their woman, so they do what they can which is to humiliate the weaker, smaller manlet male who is with a hot woman, they do this right in front of the woman to show they are the dominant male and we all know how women work, once they see you humiliated, emasculated, they lose all respect for you and your relationship is over at that point. Even if you confront them and fight, this gives them a reason to now legally beat the shit out of you without going to jail. Your foid is going to think nothing of you once it's all done and you're back home, she will already be thinking about how to ditch you and find a superior alpha male who will dominate other men.
Women actually get off on their partner dominating other males, it makes them extremely wet as this is a biological programmed behaviour for our early ancestors who used to kill each other and the strongest reigned supreme. You guys obviously have seen it all the time when some decent looking girl is walking around with an absolute ogre subhuman looking tall guy, his only redeeming feature being that he is like 6'3 or 6'4, his face is an absolute subhuman mess but he still automatically mogs every manlet because he makes them look like a child in comparison and his gf gets off on this. And because women are retarded and think taller guy = bigger dick.
This "problem" has no solution. A manlet simply cannot go out with an attractive woman because he will be preyed on by other men and there's nothing he can do. Taller men also try to "subtly" mog you in front of your girl, they'll stand close to you on purpose trying to show you're short and they're tall and then look at your gf, they'll try to talk down to you in any interaction, the list goes on. You think those same taller guys would do this to a 6'2-6'4 jacked dominant male with a beard clearly showing high testosterone/primal indicators? Never. They know better, they know the alpha will humiliate them in front of his girl which will only make her want him more which is why their beta behaviour comes out and they try to get away from the tall dominant alpha male and usually guys like this will keep their distance and not get close, they know the alpha may just mock them or try to fight them even if they haven't disrespected him like they would to a manlet. His very presence alone makes betas cower away. The tall alpha doesn't usually mock manlets, he knows they are not even competition, he sees the other "lesser" taller men and makes sure to show his girl and all other women in his vicinity that he is the dominant one. The same way the alpha dominant lion in a pride bullies the other younger, weaker males to keep them in check, he makes sure they cannot breed with the females and only he gets to do that and once they are bigger, he forces them out of the pride as the only other way is to kill them. When the alpha male dominant lion walks towards a lesser male, the lesser male or even female gets on their back to defend, they don't even try to take on the Alpha in a head on collision as they know the result will end in their death.

Now you guys can say "cope" or whatever other nonsense but you know it's true if you have actual life experience. If you have a gf and are tall/jacked or are a manlet, you've seen and experienced both sides of this happening. This is why i have never been a fan of "prettyboys", especially the guys who go this route and are not tall/big boned. You will be seen as weak by bigger, stronger men IRL and your girl will be taken. The only way prettyboy works is when the guy is like 6'4 and naturally big boned with a big frame, his frame/size alone will ensure men think twice before challenging him regardless of him appearing to be a prettyboy, actual prettyboys like this are not weak at all. The world is full of men who are looking to prey on the weak, being weak as a man is not permissible, you will be "buck broken" so to say.

@SecularIslamist i told you this very thing quite some time ago but nobody seems to listen. You go out and you see an attractive woman with a taller, dominant man, he's constantly scanning for any threats and will check any male who even tries to get close to his woman to try and sneakily attract her. This is the law of nature and our laws that protect us can only do so much. GL getting that HTB who will have every man oogling at her thinking how they can get rid of you and take her when you go out. Hell, guys are so despearte these days, even a MTB will get stares and people approaching her and disrespecting you as a manlet as if you are not even there, as if you don't even exist. I have seen this IRL myself, a manlet with a cute MTB, some tall guy approaches her, calls her pretty and asks for her number, the manlet just stares at him and is entirely disrespected. His girl sees he is a beta and loses respect for him and the relationship is soon over or she ends up cheating not long after. Muslimcels can somewhat avoid this by making sure their girl is in hijab and this usually keeps men away as for one, they know the woman is married and two depending on where you live, there are two risks. Disrespecting a muslim man can result in him disappearing for 10 minutes and coming back with 10 of his cousins with baseball bats who put you in the hospital, and then there's also the risk of jail as you can easily be indicted for racism/racial attack if the man defends his wife and you beat him up anyways, police love putting away "racists", there's also the fact that ethnics are tribal, especially muslims. One muslim man is being attacked by a white guy and 5 other muslim men who don't even know him but were across the street will come and beat the shit out of the attacker just because tribalism and the protection that religion provides them, making it mandatory to defend their "brother". They do this also because they know if they allow it to happen, the same can happen to them/their girl and nobody will help. Also, everyone knows ethnics are shorter/weaker and so there is strength in numbers. No matter how tall/dominant an alpha is, he isn't taking on 5 grown men at once, and so he will back down and leave with his respect in tact knowing not to challenge the group. This is however seperate from me talking about single male manlet out with his girl though but thought i'd address it anyways.



Here's a quote from none other than Salludon. Even he understand looks alone are nothing, other men will try him if he doesn't gymcel/look dominant/alpha and luckily he's 6'1 so not much of an issue for him.

So it's over my fellow manlets, no matter what you do, it's fucking over. There's no "ascending" with surgeries/etc because you're still going to get your girl stolen by 6'4 alpha males. Your only hope is to carry a knife with you whenever you leave the house, most men will instantly disengage when they see the knife, their superior stature isn't going to help when you gut them like a fish but ultimately this isn't a solution as you will just run into problems if you do defend yourself against a lanklet.

Holy shit ur right should i rope?
 
Mirin thread and it shows the truth! I know it's true bcs I am a turbo manlet myself(5'7)! And many times I was walking with a LTB/MTB, there were groups of guys that tried to pick on me+many times I got into fights bcs of stupid reasons and how come always those guys were taller than me! Even tho I won most fights, it still meant nothing bcs I will always remain a manlet till the moment I get LL! Even if those "6'4 chads alpha males" can't even fight and lose the fight, they still have a more dominant presence and society will always search for bs reasons to why they lost and shit like this
 
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Read every molecule, brutal shit. Especially for me as a 173cm, 177 with shoes guy.

But i can confirm a thing.
Women actually get off on their partner dominating other males,
i once tackled a guy and put him in a sort of a rear choke, then faked smashing his face in with my ellbow. (Nothing serious, he wasn't hurt or anything) and i did this infront of my partner. They asked if i did it out of jealousy and said it was hot if i did.
He was even more of a manlet then i was. But man, no chance i could hwbe done that to even a 6'2 guy.
I gotta gymmaxx to cope.
 
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did not read:feelsez:
 
Lets say you are 5'8 or 5'9 and "ascend", you go from a LTN to a HTN with surgeries, etc. You finally get a girl who is pretty hot and ofcourse women love going out so you can't just rot at home with her all day, you have to take her out on dates to places where there are going to be lots of people. The main thing here is that there are going to be SINGLE MEN who will instantly focus on you like a hawk 1 mile in the sky looking down at its prey, taller guys with bigger frames will instantly see you as weak, they don't care that you are "HTN" or whatever, they see a small man with a smaller frame. On your own, they simply wouldn't bother engaging with you or giving you any attention because of their superiority complex, but since you are with a hot woman and they are single, this triggers a rage in them, they feel entitled that they should have that woman instead of you because they are taller even though they most likely are uglier facially.

Now what happens when there's 2 guys or 3 together who see you as weak manlet and then come for you to steal your girl, what the fuck are you going to do?
Women can say whatever they want but the truth is that they are attracted to the strongest most alpha male possible, this is partially why they like tall men because they know they can protect and their stature alone is enough to intimidate other men and demands respect. They love 6'4 ogres with massive frames who are gymcelled because such guys brutally mog every guy in their vicinity without even lifting a finger, it is the law of nature. The biggest and strongest predator reigns supreme, all the weaker ones look down in submission, this is a universal law, you will see it with dogs, cats, lions, tigers, the list goes on. When a bigger, stronger male approaches, the weaker and smaller male submits because he knows he is completely at the mercy of the genetically superior specimen and ofcourse the alpha usually spares the beta because it would cost too much energy to beat them to a pulp unless ofcourse.... there is a woman he can steal from the weaker male and this does occur. See: Lions. Male lions usually have prides, multiple females around them, there can be either a lone male with a smaller pride, or two or three males with a bigger pride. What happens? Stronger, more alpha Male lions intrude into the lions "territory" and kill the weaker smaller male and then what? the females submit and accept the bigger and stronger alpha lion who conquered their mate, so they now willingly breed with him and carry his cubs instead. This is nature, the strong simply kill the weak and take the females. Now human beings are a little different because we have the rule of law, the threat of being imprisoned keeps the alpha males in check, they know they cannot simply go up to betas, stomp their head in and take their woman, so they do what they can which is to humiliate the weaker, smaller manlet male who is with a hot woman, they do this right in front of the woman to show they are the dominant male and we all know how women work, once they see you humiliated, emasculated, they lose all respect for you and your relationship is over at that point. Even if you confront them and fight, this gives them a reason to now legally beat the shit out of you without going to jail. Your foid is going to think nothing of you once it's all done and you're back home, she will already be thinking about how to ditch you and find a superior alpha male who will dominate other men.
Women actually get off on their partner dominating other males, it makes them extremely wet as this is a biological programmed behaviour for our early ancestors who used to kill each other and the strongest reigned supreme. You guys obviously have seen it all the time when some decent looking girl is walking around with an absolute ogre subhuman looking tall guy, his only redeeming feature being that he is like 6'3 or 6'4, his face is an absolute subhuman mess but he still automatically mogs every manlet because he makes them look like a child in comparison and his gf gets off on this. And because women are retarded and think taller guy = bigger dick.
This "problem" has no solution. A manlet simply cannot go out with an attractive woman because he will be preyed on by other men and there's nothing he can do. Taller men also try to "subtly" mog you in front of your girl, they'll stand close to you on purpose trying to show you're short and they're tall and then look at your gf, they'll try to talk down to you in any interaction, the list goes on. You think those same taller guys would do this to a 6'2-6'4 jacked dominant male with a beard clearly showing high testosterone/primal indicators? Never. They know better, they know the alpha will humiliate them in front of his girl which will only make her want him more which is why their beta behaviour comes out and they try to get away from the tall dominant alpha male and usually guys like this will keep their distance and not get close, they know the alpha may just mock them or try to fight them even if they haven't disrespected him like they would to a manlet. His very presence alone makes betas cower away. The tall alpha doesn't usually mock manlets, he knows they are not even competition, he sees the other "lesser" taller men and makes sure to show his girl and all other women in his vicinity that he is the dominant one. The same way the alpha dominant lion in a pride bullies the other younger, weaker males to keep them in check, he makes sure they cannot breed with the females and only he gets to do that and once they are bigger, he forces them out of the pride as the only other way is to kill them. When the alpha male dominant lion walks towards a lesser male, the lesser male or even female gets on their back to defend, they don't even try to take on the Alpha in a head on collision as they know the result will end in their death.

Now you guys can say "cope" or whatever other nonsense but you know it's true if you have actual life experience. If you have a gf and are tall/jacked or are a manlet, you've seen and experienced both sides of this happening. This is why i have never been a fan of "prettyboys", especially the guys who go this route and are not tall/big boned. You will be seen as weak by bigger, stronger men IRL and your girl will be taken. The only way prettyboy works is when the guy is like 6'4 and naturally big boned with a big frame, his frame/size alone will ensure men think twice before challenging him regardless of him appearing to be a prettyboy, actual prettyboys like this are not weak at all. The world is full of men who are looking to prey on the weak, being weak as a man is not permissible, you will be "buck broken" so to say.

@SecularIslamist i told you this very thing quite some time ago but nobody seems to listen. You go out and you see an attractive woman with a taller, dominant man, he's constantly scanning for any threats and will check any male who even tries to get close to his woman to try and sneakily attract her. This is the law of nature and our laws that protect us can only do so much. GL getting that HTB who will have every man oogling at her thinking how they can get rid of you and take her when you go out. Hell, guys are so despearte these days, even a MTB will get stares and people approaching her and disrespecting you as a manlet as if you are not even there, as if you don't even exist. I have seen this IRL myself, a manlet with a cute MTB, some tall guy approaches her, calls her pretty and asks for her number, the manlet just stares at him and is entirely disrespected. His girl sees he is a beta and loses respect for him and the relationship is soon over or she ends up cheating not long after. Muslimcels can somewhat avoid this by making sure their girl is in hijab and this usually keeps men away as for one, they know the woman is married and two depending on where you live, there are two risks. Disrespecting a muslim man can result in him disappearing for 10 minutes and coming back with 10 of his cousins with baseball bats who put you in the hospital, and then there's also the risk of jail as you can easily be indicted for racism/racial attack if the man defends his wife and you beat him up anyways, police love putting away "racists", there's also the fact that ethnics are tribal, especially muslims. One muslim man is being attacked by a white guy and 5 other muslim men who don't even know him but were across the street will come and beat the shit out of the attacker just because tribalism and the protection that religion provides them, making it mandatory to defend their "brother". They do this also because they know if they allow it to happen, the same can happen to them/their girl and nobody will help. Also, everyone knows ethnics are shorter/weaker and so there is strength in numbers. No matter how tall/dominant an alpha is, he isn't taking on 5 grown men at once, and so he will back down and leave with his respect in tact knowing not to challenge the group. This is however seperate from me talking about single male manlet out with his girl though but thought i'd address it anyways.



Here's a quote from none other than Salludon. Even he understand looks alone are nothing, other men will try him if he doesn't gymcel/look dominant/alpha and luckily he's 6'1 so not much of an issue for him.

So it's over my fellow manlets, no matter what you do, it's fucking over. There's no "ascending" with surgeries/etc because you're still going to get your girl stolen by 6'4 alpha males. Your only hope is to carry a knife with you whenever you leave the house, most men will instantly disengage when they see the knife, their superior stature isn't going to help when you gut them like a fish but ultimately this isn't a solution as you will just run into problems if you do defend yourself against a lanklet.
Retard i know u have me on ignore but ur a coping faggot. Can't stop a coper from coping. Ofc it fucking matters to be tall but you'll still have women attracted to u if u ascend to HTN even if u r short.

Wouldn't u like women to b attracted to u? Or u wouldn't want that bcoz of ur delusional cucked faggoted fantasy that 3 big buff black dudes will come and assert dominance on u in front of ur girl and steal her? U fucking coping faggot. Keep coping.

'oo bro ur life is over at 5'8 even if u are handsome bro!"

If ur mind is still generating copes, just roidmax and become bigger than the "alpha" tallfag tyrones ur talking about, and they won't see u as inferior because of the gay agenda that muscular guys are attractive to women.

Easy fix. But you will still cope after reading this. As no one can stop a coper from coping. Fucking faggot coper kill your self retard.
 
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Leg lengthening and 2g test to lock down ma LTB
Fuck this life is exhausting
 
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Lets say you are 5'8 or 5'9 and "ascend", you go from a LTN to a HTN with surgeries, etc. You finally get a girl who is pretty hot and ofcourse women love going out so you can't just rot at home with her all day, you have to take her out on dates to places where there are going to be lots of people. The main thing here is that there are going to be SINGLE MEN who will instantly focus on you like a hawk 1 mile in the sky looking down at its prey, taller guys with bigger frames will instantly see you as weak, they don't care that you are "HTN" or whatever, they see a small man with a smaller frame. On your own, they simply wouldn't bother engaging with you or giving you any attention because of their superiority complex, but since you are with a hot woman and they are single, this triggers a rage in them, they feel entitled that they should have that woman instead of you because they are taller even though they most likely are uglier facially.

Now what happens when there's 2 guys or 3 together who see you as weak manlet and then come for you to steal your girl, what the fuck are you going to do?
Women can say whatever they want but the truth is that they are attracted to the strongest most alpha male possible, this is partially why they like tall men because they know they can protect and their stature alone is enough to intimidate other men and demands respect. They love 6'4 ogres with massive frames who are gymcelled because such guys brutally mog every guy in their vicinity without even lifting a finger, it is the law of nature. The biggest and strongest predator reigns supreme, all the weaker ones look down in submission, this is a universal law, you will see it with dogs, cats, lions, tigers, the list goes on. When a bigger, stronger male approaches, the weaker and smaller male submits because he knows he is completely at the mercy of the genetically superior specimen and ofcourse the alpha usually spares the beta because it would cost too much energy to beat them to a pulp unless ofcourse.... there is a woman he can steal from the weaker male and this does occur. See: Lions. Male lions usually have prides, multiple females around them, there can be either a lone male with a smaller pride, or two or three males with a bigger pride. What happens? Stronger, more alpha Male lions intrude into the lions "territory" and kill the weaker smaller male and then what? the females submit and accept the bigger and stronger alpha lion who conquered their mate, so they now willingly breed with him and carry his cubs instead. This is nature, the strong simply kill the weak and take the females. Now human beings are a little different because we have the rule of law, the threat of being imprisoned keeps the alpha males in check, they know they cannot simply go up to betas, stomp their head in and take their woman, so they do what they can which is to humiliate the weaker, smaller manlet male who is with a hot woman, they do this right in front of the woman to show they are the dominant male and we all know how women work, once they see you humiliated, emasculated, they lose all respect for you and your relationship is over at that point. Even if you confront them and fight, this gives them a reason to now legally beat the shit out of you without going to jail. Your foid is going to think nothing of you once it's all done and you're back home, she will already be thinking about how to ditch you and find a superior alpha male who will dominate other men.
Women actually get off on their partner dominating other males, it makes them extremely wet as this is a biological programmed behaviour for our early ancestors who used to kill each other and the strongest reigned supreme. You guys obviously have seen it all the time when some decent looking girl is walking around with an absolute ogre subhuman looking tall guy, his only redeeming feature being that he is like 6'3 or 6'4, his face is an absolute subhuman mess but he still automatically mogs every manlet because he makes them look like a child in comparison and his gf gets off on this. And because women are retarded and think taller guy = bigger dick.
This "problem" has no solution. A manlet simply cannot go out with an attractive woman because he will be preyed on by other men and there's nothing he can do. Taller men also try to "subtly" mog you in front of your girl, they'll stand close to you on purpose trying to show you're short and they're tall and then look at your gf, they'll try to talk down to you in any interaction, the list goes on. You think those same taller guys would do this to a 6'2-6'4 jacked dominant male with a beard clearly showing high testosterone/primal indicators? Never. They know better, they know the alpha will humiliate them in front of his girl which will only make her want him more which is why their beta behaviour comes out and they try to get away from the tall dominant alpha male and usually guys like this will keep their distance and not get close, they know the alpha may just mock them or try to fight them even if they haven't disrespected him like they would to a manlet. His very presence alone makes betas cower away. The tall alpha doesn't usually mock manlets, he knows they are not even competition, he sees the other "lesser" taller men and makes sure to show his girl and all other women in his vicinity that he is the dominant one. The same way the alpha dominant lion in a pride bullies the other younger, weaker males to keep them in check, he makes sure they cannot breed with the females and only he gets to do that and once they are bigger, he forces them out of the pride as the only other way is to kill them. When the alpha male dominant lion walks towards a lesser male, the lesser male or even female gets on their back to defend, they don't even try to take on the Alpha in a head on collision as they know the result will end in their death.

Now you guys can say "cope" or whatever other nonsense but you know it's true if you have actual life experience. If you have a gf and are tall/jacked or are a manlet, you've seen and experienced both sides of this happening. This is why i have never been a fan of "prettyboys", especially the guys who go this route and are not tall/big boned. You will be seen as weak by bigger, stronger men IRL and your girl will be taken. The only way prettyboy works is when the guy is like 6'4 and naturally big boned with a big frame, his frame/size alone will ensure men think twice before challenging him regardless of him appearing to be a prettyboy, actual prettyboys like this are not weak at all. The world is full of men who are looking to prey on the weak, being weak as a man is not permissible, you will be "buck broken" so to say.

@SecularIslamist i told you this very thing quite some time ago but nobody seems to listen. You go out and you see an attractive woman with a taller, dominant man, he's constantly scanning for any threats and will check any male who even tries to get close to his woman to try and sneakily attract her. This is the law of nature and our laws that protect us can only do so much. GL getting that HTB who will have every man oogling at her thinking how they can get rid of you and take her when you go out. Hell, guys are so despearte these days, even a MTB will get stares and people approaching her and disrespecting you as a manlet as if you are not even there, as if you don't even exist. I have seen this IRL myself, a manlet with a cute MTB, some tall guy approaches her, calls her pretty and asks for her number, the manlet just stares at him and is entirely disrespected. His girl sees he is a beta and loses respect for him and the relationship is soon over or she ends up cheating not long after. Muslimcels can somewhat avoid this by making sure their girl is in hijab and this usually keeps men away as for one, they know the woman is married and two depending on where you live, there are two risks. Disrespecting a muslim man can result in him disappearing for 10 minutes and coming back with 10 of his cousins with baseball bats who put you in the hospital, and then there's also the risk of jail as you can easily be indicted for racism/racial attack if the man defends his wife and you beat him up anyways, police love putting away "racists", there's also the fact that ethnics are tribal, especially muslims. One muslim man is being attacked by a white guy and 5 other muslim men who don't even know him but were across the street will come and beat the shit out of the attacker just because tribalism and the protection that religion provides them, making it mandatory to defend their "brother". They do this also because they know if they allow it to happen, the same can happen to them/their girl and nobody will help. Also, everyone knows ethnics are shorter/weaker and so there is strength in numbers. No matter how tall/dominant an alpha is, he isn't taking on 5 grown men at once, and so he will back down and leave with his respect in tact knowing not to challenge the group. This is however seperate from me talking about single male manlet out with his girl though but thought i'd address it anyways.



Here's a quote from none other than Salludon. Even he understand looks alone are nothing, other men will try him if he doesn't gymcel/look dominant/alpha and luckily he's 6'1 so not much of an issue for him.

So it's over my fellow manlets, no matter what you do, it's fucking over. There's no "ascending" with surgeries/etc because you're still going to get your girl stolen by 6'4 alpha males. Your only hope is to carry a knife with you whenever you leave the house, most men will instantly disengage when they see the knife, their superior stature isn't going to help when you gut them like a fish but ultimately this isn't a solution as you will just run into problems if you do defend yourself against a lanklet.
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If youre gymmaxxed at 5’8+ (broad shoulders, 19+ inch bidelt) and have a dimorphic face (being ethnic is a plus since their stereotyped as more dangerous) the likelihood of anything happening is very low. And if you actually learn to fight a trained (not black belt level) 5’8 guy would kill a 6’5 lanklet with no experience 19/20 times.

Most guys are not confident enough to do shit, especially if the guy is a htn facially. Youre overestimating the horrors of the outside world because you don’t go outside.
 
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It’s fucking over, 6’4 22 bidelt chad can snap my neck any moment
 
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TLDR, i will get cucked and lose my girl, then we gona find another foid, as simple as that
 
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Lets say you are 5'8 or 5'9 and "ascend", you go from a LTN to a HTN with surgeries, etc. You finally get a girl who is pretty hot and ofcourse women love going out so you can't just rot at home with her all day, you have to take her out on dates to places where there are going to be lots of people. The main thing here is that there are going to be SINGLE MEN who will instantly focus on you like a hawk 1 mile in the sky looking down at its prey, taller guys with bigger frames will instantly see you as weak, they don't care that you are "HTN" or whatever, they see a small man with a smaller frame. On your own, they simply wouldn't bother engaging with you or giving you any attention because of their superiority complex, but since you are with a hot woman and they are single, this triggers a rage in them, they feel entitled that they should have that woman instead of you because they are taller even though they most likely are uglier facially.

Now what happens when there's 2 guys or 3 together who see you as weak manlet and then come for you to steal your girl, what the fuck are you going to do?
Women can say whatever they want but the truth is that they are attracted to the strongest most alpha male possible, this is partially why they like tall men because they know they can protect and their stature alone is enough to intimidate other men and demands respect. They love 6'4 ogres with massive frames who are gymcelled because such guys brutally mog every guy in their vicinity without even lifting a finger, it is the law of nature. The biggest and strongest predator reigns supreme, all the weaker ones look down in submission, this is a universal law, you will see it with dogs, cats, lions, tigers, the list goes on. When a bigger, stronger male approaches, the weaker and smaller male submits because he knows he is completely at the mercy of the genetically superior specimen and ofcourse the alpha usually spares the beta because it would cost too much energy to beat them to a pulp unless ofcourse.... there is a woman he can steal from the weaker male and this does occur. See: Lions. Male lions usually have prides, multiple females around them, there can be either a lone male with a smaller pride, or two or three males with a bigger pride. What happens? Stronger, more alpha Male lions intrude into the lions "territory" and kill the weaker smaller male and then what? the females submit and accept the bigger and stronger alpha lion who conquered their mate, so they now willingly breed with him and carry his cubs instead. This is nature, the strong simply kill the weak and take the females. Now human beings are a little different because we have the rule of law, the threat of being imprisoned keeps the alpha males in check, they know they cannot simply go up to betas, stomp their head in and take their woman, so they do what they can which is to humiliate the weaker, smaller manlet male who is with a hot woman, they do this right in front of the woman to show they are the dominant male and we all know how women work, once they see you humiliated, emasculated, they lose all respect for you and your relationship is over at that point. Even if you confront them and fight, this gives them a reason to now legally beat the shit out of you without going to jail. Your foid is going to think nothing of you once it's all done and you're back home, she will already be thinking about how to ditch you and find a superior alpha male who will dominate other men.
Women actually get off on their partner dominating other males, it makes them extremely wet as this is a biological programmed behaviour for our early ancestors who used to kill each other and the strongest reigned supreme. You guys obviously have seen it all the time when some decent looking girl is walking around with an absolute ogre subhuman looking tall guy, his only redeeming feature being that he is like 6'3 or 6'4, his face is an absolute subhuman mess but he still automatically mogs every manlet because he makes them look like a child in comparison and his gf gets off on this. And because women are retarded and think taller guy = bigger dick.
This "problem" has no solution. A manlet simply cannot go out with an attractive woman because he will be preyed on by other men and there's nothing he can do. Taller men also try to "subtly" mog you in front of your girl, they'll stand close to you on purpose trying to show you're short and they're tall and then look at your gf, they'll try to talk down to you in any interaction, the list goes on. You think those same taller guys would do this to a 6'2-6'4 jacked dominant male with a beard clearly showing high testosterone/primal indicators? Never. They know better, they know the alpha will humiliate them in front of his girl which will only make her want him more which is why their beta behaviour comes out and they try to get away from the tall dominant alpha male and usually guys like this will keep their distance and not get close, they know the alpha may just mock them or try to fight them even if they haven't disrespected him like they would to a manlet. His very presence alone makes betas cower away. The tall alpha doesn't usually mock manlets, he knows they are not even competition, he sees the other "lesser" taller men and makes sure to show his girl and all other women in his vicinity that he is the dominant one. The same way the alpha dominant lion in a pride bullies the other younger, weaker males to keep them in check, he makes sure they cannot breed with the females and only he gets to do that and once they are bigger, he forces them out of the pride as the only other way is to kill them. When the alpha male dominant lion walks towards a lesser male, the lesser male or even female gets on their back to defend, they don't even try to take on the Alpha in a head on collision as they know the result will end in their death.

Now you guys can say "cope" or whatever other nonsense but you know it's true if you have actual life experience. If you have a gf and are tall/jacked or are a manlet, you've seen and experienced both sides of this happening. This is why i have never been a fan of "prettyboys", especially the guys who go this route and are not tall/big boned. You will be seen as weak by bigger, stronger men IRL and your girl will be taken. The only way prettyboy works is when the guy is like 6'4 and naturally big boned with a big frame, his frame/size alone will ensure men think twice before challenging him regardless of him appearing to be a prettyboy, actual prettyboys like this are not weak at all. The world is full of men who are looking to prey on the weak, being weak as a man is not permissible, you will be "buck broken" so to say.

@SecularIslamist i told you this very thing quite some time ago but nobody seems to listen. You go out and you see an attractive woman with a taller, dominant man, he's constantly scanning for any threats and will check any male who even tries to get close to his woman to try and sneakily attract her. This is the law of nature and our laws that protect us can only do so much. GL getting that HTB who will have every man oogling at her thinking how they can get rid of you and take her when you go out. Hell, guys are so despearte these days, even a MTB will get stares and people approaching her and disrespecting you as a manlet as if you are not even there, as if you don't even exist. I have seen this IRL myself, a manlet with a cute MTB, some tall guy approaches her, calls her pretty and asks for her number, the manlet just stares at him and is entirely disrespected. His girl sees he is a beta and loses respect for him and the relationship is soon over or she ends up cheating not long after. Muslimcels can somewhat avoid this by making sure their girl is in hijab and this usually keeps men away as for one, they know the woman is married and two depending on where you live, there are two risks. Disrespecting a muslim man can result in him disappearing for 10 minutes and coming back with 10 of his cousins with baseball bats who put you in the hospital, and then there's also the risk of jail as you can easily be indicted for racism/racial attack if the man defends his wife and you beat him up anyways, police love putting away "racists", there's also the fact that ethnics are tribal, especially muslims. One muslim man is being attacked by a white guy and 5 other muslim men who don't even know him but were across the street will come and beat the shit out of the attacker just because tribalism and the protection that religion provides them, making it mandatory to defend their "brother". They do this also because they know if they allow it to happen, the same can happen to them/their girl and nobody will help. Also, everyone knows ethnics are shorter/weaker and so there is strength in numbers. No matter how tall/dominant an alpha is, he isn't taking on 5 grown men at once, and so he will back down and leave with his respect in tact knowing not to challenge the group. This is however seperate from me talking about single male manlet out with his girl though but thought i'd address it anyways.



Here's a quote from none other than Salludon. Even he understand looks alone are nothing, other men will try him if he doesn't gymcel/look dominant/alpha and luckily he's 6'1 so not much of an issue for him.

So it's over my fellow manlets, no matter what you do, it's fucking over. There's no "ascending" with surgeries/etc because you're still going to get your girl stolen by 6'4 alpha males. Your only hope is to carry a knife with you whenever you leave the house, most men will instantly disengage when they see the knife, their superior stature isn't going to help when you gut them like a fish but ultimately this isn't a solution as you will just run into problems if you do defend yourself against a lanklet.
I read this whole thing and this is all correct its happened to me as well sadly and height play an Advantage in your dating life aswell as in your evreyday life and ive got proof for days to back it up
 
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the average male height in the U.S Canada and Australia is like 5’8 - 5’9 dude
That’s the cope average which includes uncs and your grandad too. Even then the avg is 5’10.

They aren’t your competition, the competition here OP is referring to is your peers slightly order or maybe young. Avg millennium/ Gen Z zoomer is 5’11 or above :blackpill: take the height pill.
 
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yeah completely agree as a 5'4 guy that frauds to 5'7, i'll be geomaxxing in the next few years once i get the money.

i did train muay thai for 2 years, and i held my own against even trained 5'10 - 6'0 guys pretty well considering the massive weight and height difference. i should probably get back into it, i've just been gymcelling the past couple years.
Hey bro i'm 5'7, how do i deal with being short its really getting to me mentally it makes me feel depressed and down, i have a decent face that i don't really worry about, but my height is so cooked considering guys around my age are on average 5'9-5'10
 
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Hey bro i'm 5'7, how do i deal with being short its really getting to me mentally it makes me feel depressed and down, i have a decent face that i don't really worry about, but my height is so cooked considering guys around my age are on average 5'9-5'10
wearing elevator shoes is by far the best. you can easily fraud 2-3 inches on the daily, ive done this dozens of times no one notices unless i explicitly tell them.

second thing is you need to make a “niche” for yourself. you need to stand out and be someone other than the average looking short guy. everyone knows me as a gym guy and i get a lot of respect from guys by doing that.

5’7 is much better than 5’4. if I’ve managed to stay alive and make a thing for myself then you can too.
 
wearing elevator shoes is by far the best. you can easily fraud 2-3 inches on the daily, ive done this dozens of times no one notices unless i explicitly tell them.

second thing is you need to make a “niche” for yourself. you need to stand out and be someone other than the average looking short guy. everyone knows me as a gym guy and i get a lot of respect from guys by doing that.

5’7 is much better than 5’4. if I’ve managed to stay alive and make a thing for myself then you can too.
How are things with woman are they like what they seem on social media or are they less hateful towards us short men

I'm still in school and i am planning to fraud 2-2.5 inches, i found a way to fraud without being caught

Yeah man the thing that really tortures me is the past i regret not eating and sleeping properly, i could have reached 5'10, my dad and mom are average height (5'9 and 5'5)
 
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I don't agree with assumption that tall roided ogre will steal twink's HTB (for example)...
It's cringe, tryhard to be jacked tbh, introverted HQNP PETITE girl's would chose a highIQ twink.
 
Agree on the MANLET part. You must FRAMEMOG a girl, it's super important, even as a "pretty boy".
Manletism is the most brutal pill tbh, you'll never be MAN enough for hoe's.
Truły over for /shortguys
 
Manlets are superior fighters, and most lanklets are uncoordinated and don't stand a chance against an alpha manlet.
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Yo guys is it over for me, genuine question

Barefoot morning height about 5'7.5
I am planning to fraud to 5'9.5
Assuming compression by gravity i get to: 5'9

If i'm 5'9
In a south asian country
Pretty boy with wide female gazed frame

Is it still over or should i fraud to 5'9.5-5'10?
 
Read everything

Brutal and true thread
 
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Lets say you are 5'8 or 5'9 and "ascend", you go from a LTN to a HTN with surgeries, etc. You finally get a girl who is pretty hot and ofcourse women love going out so you can't just rot at home with her all day, you have to take her out on dates to places where there are going to be lots of people. The main thing here is that there are going to be SINGLE MEN who will instantly focus on you like a hawk 1 mile in the sky looking down at its prey, taller guys with bigger frames will instantly see you as weak, they don't care that you are "HTN" or whatever, they see a small man with a smaller frame. On your own, they simply wouldn't bother engaging with you or giving you any attention because of their superiority complex, but since you are with a hot woman and they are single, this triggers a rage in them, they feel entitled that they should have that woman instead of you because they are taller even though they most likely are uglier facially.

Now what happens when there's 2 guys or 3 together who see you as weak manlet and then come for you to steal your girl, what the fuck are you going to do?
Women can say whatever they want but the truth is that they are attracted to the strongest most alpha male possible, this is partially why they like tall men because they know they can protect and their stature alone is enough to intimidate other men and demands respect. They love 6'4 ogres with massive frames who are gymcelled because such guys brutally mog every guy in their vicinity without even lifting a finger, it is the law of nature. The biggest and strongest predator reigns supreme, all the weaker ones look down in submission, this is a universal law, you will see it with dogs, cats, lions, tigers, the list goes on. When a bigger, stronger male approaches, the weaker and smaller male submits because he knows he is completely at the mercy of the genetically superior specimen and ofcourse the alpha usually spares the beta because it would cost too much energy to beat them to a pulp unless ofcourse.... there is a woman he can steal from the weaker male and this does occur. See: Lions. Male lions usually have prides, multiple females around them, there can be either a lone male with a smaller pride, or two or three males with a bigger pride. What happens? Stronger, more alpha Male lions intrude into the lions "territory" and kill the weaker smaller male and then what? the females submit and accept the bigger and stronger alpha lion who conquered their mate, so they now willingly breed with him and carry his cubs instead. This is nature, the strong simply kill the weak and take the females. Now human beings are a little different because we have the rule of law, the threat of being imprisoned keeps the alpha males in check, they know they cannot simply go up to betas, stomp their head in and take their woman, so they do what they can which is to humiliate the weaker, smaller manlet male who is with a hot woman, they do this right in front of the woman to show they are the dominant male and we all know how women work, once they see you humiliated, emasculated, they lose all respect for you and your relationship is over at that point. Even if you confront them and fight, this gives them a reason to now legally beat the shit out of you without going to jail. Your foid is going to think nothing of you once it's all done and you're back home, she will already be thinking about how to ditch you and find a superior alpha male who will dominate other men.
Women actually get off on their partner dominating other males, it makes them extremely wet as this is a biological programmed behaviour for our early ancestors who used to kill each other and the strongest reigned supreme. You guys obviously have seen it all the time when some decent looking girl is walking around with an absolute ogre subhuman looking tall guy, his only redeeming feature being that he is like 6'3 or 6'4, his face is an absolute subhuman mess but he still automatically mogs every manlet because he makes them look like a child in comparison and his gf gets off on this. And because women are retarded and think taller guy = bigger dick.
This "problem" has no solution. A manlet simply cannot go out with an attractive woman because he will be preyed on by other men and there's nothing he can do. Taller men also try to "subtly" mog you in front of your girl, they'll stand close to you on purpose trying to show you're short and they're tall and then look at your gf, they'll try to talk down to you in any interaction, the list goes on. You think those same taller guys would do this to a 6'2-6'4 jacked dominant male with a beard clearly showing high testosterone/primal indicators? Never. They know better, they know the alpha will humiliate them in front of his girl which will only make her want him more which is why their beta behaviour comes out and they try to get away from the tall dominant alpha male and usually guys like this will keep their distance and not get close, they know the alpha may just mock them or try to fight them even if they haven't disrespected him like they would to a manlet. His very presence alone makes betas cower away. The tall alpha doesn't usually mock manlets, he knows they are not even competition, he sees the other "lesser" taller men and makes sure to show his girl and all other women in his vicinity that he is the dominant one. The same way the alpha dominant lion in a pride bullies the other younger, weaker males to keep them in check, he makes sure they cannot breed with the females and only he gets to do that and once they are bigger, he forces them out of the pride as the only other way is to kill them. When the alpha male dominant lion walks towards a lesser male, the lesser male or even female gets on their back to defend, they don't even try to take on the Alpha in a head on collision as they know the result will end in their death.

Now you guys can say "cope" or whatever other nonsense but you know it's true if you have actual life experience. If you have a gf and are tall/jacked or are a manlet, you've seen and experienced both sides of this happening. This is why i have never been a fan of "prettyboys", especially the guys who go this route and are not tall/big boned. You will be seen as weak by bigger, stronger men IRL and your girl will be taken. The only way prettyboy works is when the guy is like 6'4 and naturally big boned with a big frame, his frame/size alone will ensure men think twice before challenging him regardless of him appearing to be a prettyboy, actual prettyboys like this are not weak at all. The world is full of men who are looking to prey on the weak, being weak as a man is not permissible, you will be "buck broken" so to say.

@SecularIslamist i told you this very thing quite some time ago but nobody seems to listen. You go out and you see an attractive woman with a taller, dominant man, he's constantly scanning for any threats and will check any male who even tries to get close to his woman to try and sneakily attract her. This is the law of nature and our laws that protect us can only do so much. GL getting that HTB who will have every man oogling at her thinking how they can get rid of you and take her when you go out. Hell, guys are so despearte these days, even a MTB will get stares and people approaching her and disrespecting you as a manlet as if you are not even there, as if you don't even exist. I have seen this IRL myself, a manlet with a cute MTB, some tall guy approaches her, calls her pretty and asks for her number, the manlet just stares at him and is entirely disrespected. His girl sees he is a beta and loses respect for him and the relationship is soon over or she ends up cheating not long after. Muslimcels can somewhat avoid this by making sure their girl is in hijab and this usually keeps men away as for one, they know the woman is married and two depending on where you live, there are two risks. Disrespecting a muslim man can result in him disappearing for 10 minutes and coming back with 10 of his cousins with baseball bats who put you in the hospital, and then there's also the risk of jail as you can easily be indicted for racism/racial attack if the man defends his wife and you beat him up anyways, police love putting away "racists", there's also the fact that ethnics are tribal, especially muslims. One muslim man is being attacked by a white guy and 5 other muslim men who don't even know him but were across the street will come and beat the shit out of the attacker just because tribalism and the protection that religion provides them, making it mandatory to defend their "brother". They do this also because they know if they allow it to happen, the same can happen to them/their girl and nobody will help. Also, everyone knows ethnics are shorter/weaker and so there is strength in numbers. No matter how tall/dominant an alpha is, he isn't taking on 5 grown men at once, and so he will back down and leave with his respect in tact knowing not to challenge the group. This is however seperate from me talking about single male manlet out with his girl though but thought i'd address it anyways.



Here's a quote from none other than Salludon. Even he understand looks alone are nothing, other men will try him if he doesn't gymcel/look dominant/alpha and luckily he's 6'1 so not much of an issue for him.

So it's over my fellow manlets, no matter what you do, it's fucking over. There's no "ascending" with surgeries/etc because you're still going to get your girl stolen by 6'4 alpha males. Your only hope is to carry a knife with you whenever you leave the house, most men will instantly disengage when they see the knife, their superior stature isn't going to help when you gut them like a fish but ultimately this isn't a solution as you will just run into problems if you do defend yourself against a lanklet.
get a gun and shit niggers down lmao
 
How are things with woman are they like what they seem on social media or are they less hateful towards us short men

I'm still in school and i am planning to fraud 2-2.5 inches, i found a way to fraud without being caught

Yeah man the thing that really tortures me is the past i regret not eating and sleeping properly, i could have reached 5'10, my dad and mom are average height (5'9 and 5'5)
well i cant answer that for you since i've never had a gf jfl

and dont feel too bad about it, my dad is 5'8 and im 4 inches shorter than him, not because of nutrition or sleep but because genetic recombination fucked me over.
 
Outdated, 5'9 was the average like 15 years ago, it isn't the case for zoomer males. Have you been to an american college campus? go there as a 5'8 or 5'9 male and be heightmogged by most men. It isn't even the average in the UK either, dunno why people keep parroting this outdated statement. I'm 5'8.5 and heightmogged by 80% of men minimum, @SecularIslamist is 5'7.5 and has claimed he is heightmogged by 90% of men so it's really not that unrealistic when i say 80% even though people mock me and say it's fake, it's clearly not when the average height is 5'10-5'11 for zoomers in the UK.
I'm 6"0 barefoot here and I feel average, it's an emotional rollercoaster, one day I height mog everyone the other I'm manlet
 
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Lets say you are 5'8 or 5'9 and "ascend", you go from a LTN to a HTN with surgeries, etc. You finally get a girl who is pretty hot and ofcourse women love going out so you can't just rot at home with her all day, you have to take her out on dates to places where there are going to be lots of people. The main thing here is that there are going to be SINGLE MEN who will instantly focus on you like a hawk 1 mile in the sky looking down at its prey, taller guys with bigger frames will instantly see you as weak, they don't care that you are "HTN" or whatever, they see a small man with a smaller frame. On your own, they simply wouldn't bother engaging with you or giving you any attention because of their superiority complex, but since you are with a hot woman and they are single, this triggers a rage in them, they feel entitled that they should have that woman instead of you because they are taller even though they most likely are uglier facially.

Now what happens when there's 2 guys or 3 together who see you as weak manlet and then come for you to steal your girl, what the fuck are you going to do?
Women can say whatever they want but the truth is that they are attracted to the strongest most alpha male possible, this is partially why they like tall men because they know they can protect and their stature alone is enough to intimidate other men and demands respect. They love 6'4 ogres with massive frames who are gymcelled because such guys brutally mog every guy in their vicinity without even lifting a finger, it is the law of nature. The biggest and strongest predator reigns supreme, all the weaker ones look down in submission, this is a universal law, you will see it with dogs, cats, lions, tigers, the list goes on. When a bigger, stronger male approaches, the weaker and smaller male submits because he knows he is completely at the mercy of the genetically superior specimen and ofcourse the alpha usually spares the beta because it would cost too much energy to beat them to a pulp unless ofcourse.... there is a woman he can steal from the weaker male and this does occur. See: Lions. Male lions usually have prides, multiple females around them, there can be either a lone male with a smaller pride, or two or three males with a bigger pride. What happens? Stronger, more alpha Male lions intrude into the lions "territory" and kill the weaker smaller male and then what? the females submit and accept the bigger and stronger alpha lion who conquered their mate, so they now willingly breed with him and carry his cubs instead. This is nature, the strong simply kill the weak and take the females. Now human beings are a little different because we have the rule of law, the threat of being imprisoned keeps the alpha males in check, they know they cannot simply go up to betas, stomp their head in and take their woman, so they do what they can which is to humiliate the weaker, smaller manlet male who is with a hot woman, they do this right in front of the woman to show they are the dominant male and we all know how women work, once they see you humiliated, emasculated, they lose all respect for you and your relationship is over at that point. Even if you confront them and fight, this gives them a reason to now legally beat the shit out of you without going to jail. Your foid is going to think nothing of you once it's all done and you're back home, she will already be thinking about how to ditch you and find a superior alpha male who will dominate other men.
Women actually get off on their partner dominating other males, it makes them extremely wet as this is a biological programmed behaviour for our early ancestors who used to kill each other and the strongest reigned supreme. You guys obviously have seen it all the time when some decent looking girl is walking around with an absolute ogre subhuman looking tall guy, his only redeeming feature being that he is like 6'3 or 6'4, his face is an absolute subhuman mess but he still automatically mogs every manlet because he makes them look like a child in comparison and his gf gets off on this. And because women are retarded and think taller guy = bigger dick.
This "problem" has no solution. A manlet simply cannot go out with an attractive woman because he will be preyed on by other men and there's nothing he can do. Taller men also try to "subtly" mog you in front of your girl, they'll stand close to you on purpose trying to show you're short and they're tall and then look at your gf, they'll try to talk down to you in any interaction, the list goes on. You think those same taller guys would do this to a 6'2-6'4 jacked dominant male with a beard clearly showing high testosterone/primal indicators? Never. They know better, they know the alpha will humiliate them in front of his girl which will only make her want him more which is why their beta behaviour comes out and they try to get away from the tall dominant alpha male and usually guys like this will keep their distance and not get close, they know the alpha may just mock them or try to fight them even if they haven't disrespected him like they would to a manlet. His very presence alone makes betas cower away. The tall alpha doesn't usually mock manlets, he knows they are not even competition, he sees the other "lesser" taller men and makes sure to show his girl and all other women in his vicinity that he is the dominant one. The same way the alpha dominant lion in a pride bullies the other younger, weaker males to keep them in check, he makes sure they cannot breed with the females and only he gets to do that and once they are bigger, he forces them out of the pride as the only other way is to kill them. When the alpha male dominant lion walks towards a lesser male, the lesser male or even female gets on their back to defend, they don't even try to take on the Alpha in a head on collision as they know the result will end in their death.

Now you guys can say "cope" or whatever other nonsense but you know it's true if you have actual life experience. If you have a gf and are tall/jacked or are a manlet, you've seen and experienced both sides of this happening. This is why i have never been a fan of "prettyboys", especially the guys who go this route and are not tall/big boned. You will be seen as weak by bigger, stronger men IRL and your girl will be taken. The only way prettyboy works is when the guy is like 6'4 and naturally big boned with a big frame, his frame/size alone will ensure men think twice before challenging him regardless of him appearing to be a prettyboy, actual prettyboys like this are not weak at all. The world is full of men who are looking to prey on the weak, being weak as a man is not permissible, you will be "buck broken" so to say.

@SecularIslamist i told you this very thing quite some time ago but nobody seems to listen. You go out and you see an attractive woman with a taller, dominant man, he's constantly scanning for any threats and will check any male who even tries to get close to his woman to try and sneakily attract her. This is the law of nature and our laws that protect us can only do so much. GL getting that HTB who will have every man oogling at her thinking how they can get rid of you and take her when you go out. Hell, guys are so despearte these days, even a MTB will get stares and people approaching her and disrespecting you as a manlet as if you are not even there, as if you don't even exist. I have seen this IRL myself, a manlet with a cute MTB, some tall guy approaches her, calls her pretty and asks for her number, the manlet just stares at him and is entirely disrespected. His girl sees he is a beta and loses respect for him and the relationship is soon over or she ends up cheating not long after. Muslimcels can somewhat avoid this by making sure their girl is in hijab and this usually keeps men away as for one, they know the woman is married and two depending on where you live, there are two risks. Disrespecting a muslim man can result in him disappearing for 10 minutes and coming back with 10 of his cousins with baseball bats who put you in the hospital, and then there's also the risk of jail as you can easily be indicted for racism/racial attack if the man defends his wife and you beat him up anyways, police love putting away "racists", there's also the fact that ethnics are tribal, especially muslims. One muslim man is being attacked by a white guy and 5 other muslim men who don't even know him but were across the street will come and beat the shit out of the attacker just because tribalism and the protection that religion provides them, making it mandatory to defend their "brother". They do this also because they know if they allow it to happen, the same can happen to them/their girl and nobody will help. Also, everyone knows ethnics are shorter/weaker and so there is strength in numbers. No matter how tall/dominant an alpha is, he isn't taking on 5 grown men at once, and so he will back down and leave with his respect in tact knowing not to challenge the group. This is however seperate from me talking about single male manlet out with his girl though but thought i'd address it anyways.



Here's a quote from none other than Salludon. Even he understand looks alone are nothing, other men will try him if he doesn't gymcel/look dominant/alpha and luckily he's 6'1 so not much of an issue for him.

So it's over my fellow manlets, no matter what you do, it's fucking over. There's no "ascending" with surgeries/etc because you're still going to get your girl stolen by 6'4 alpha males. Your only hope is to carry a knife with you whenever you leave the house, most men will instantly disengage when they see the knife, their superior stature isn't going to help when you gut them like a fish but ultimately this isn't a solution as you will just run into problems if you do defend yourself against a lanklet.
This is stupid and a fantasy lit just find a girl in some place other than the usual areas known to only have sluts. Idk how u guys fail to understand that girls arent different from us and arent all hypergamous, always looking for the next best option. Pls stop spreading this bs ts doesnt happen in normal places with normal people in real life.

Cus a lotta women also are proud of being loyal
 
This is stupid and a fantasy lit just find a girl in some place other than the usual areas known to only have sluts. Idk how u guys fail to understand that girls arent different from us and arent all hypergamous, always looking for the next best option. Pls stop spreading this bs ts doesnt happen in normal places with normal people in real life.

Cus a lotta women also are proud of being loyal
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Lets say you are 5'8 or 5'9 and "ascend", you go from a LTN to a HTN with surgeries, etc. You finally get a girl who is pretty hot and ofcourse women love going out so you can't just rot at home with her all day, you have to take her out on dates to places where there are going to be lots of people. The main thing here is that there are going to be SINGLE MEN who will instantly focus on you like a hawk 1 mile in the sky looking down at its prey, taller guys with bigger frames will instantly see you as weak, they don't care that you are "HTN" or whatever, they see a small man with a smaller frame. On your own, they simply wouldn't bother engaging with you or giving you any attention because of their superiority complex, but since you are with a hot woman and they are single, this triggers a rage in them, they feel entitled that they should have that woman instead of you because they are taller even though they most likely are uglier facially.

Now what happens when there's 2 guys or 3 together who see you as weak manlet and then come for you to steal your girl, what the fuck are you going to do?
Women can say whatever they want but the truth is that they are attracted to the strongest most alpha male possible, this is partially why they like tall men because they know they can protect and their stature alone is enough to intimidate other men and demands respect. They love 6'4 ogres with massive frames who are gymcelled because such guys brutally mog every guy in their vicinity without even lifting a finger, it is the law of nature. The biggest and strongest predator reigns supreme, all the weaker ones look down in submission, this is a universal law, you will see it with dogs, cats, lions, tigers, the list goes on. When a bigger, stronger male approaches, the weaker and smaller male submits because he knows he is completely at the mercy of the genetically superior specimen and ofcourse the alpha usually spares the beta because it would cost too much energy to beat them to a pulp unless ofcourse.... there is a woman he can steal from the weaker male and this does occur. See: Lions. Male lions usually have prides, multiple females around them, there can be either a lone male with a smaller pride, or two or three males with a bigger pride. What happens? Stronger, more alpha Male lions intrude into the lions "territory" and kill the weaker smaller male and then what? the females submit and accept the bigger and stronger alpha lion who conquered their mate, so they now willingly breed with him and carry his cubs instead. This is nature, the strong simply kill the weak and take the females. Now human beings are a little different because we have the rule of law, the threat of being imprisoned keeps the alpha males in check, they know they cannot simply go up to betas, stomp their head in and take their woman, so they do what they can which is to humiliate the weaker, smaller manlet male who is with a hot woman, they do this right in front of the woman to show they are the dominant male and we all know how women work, once they see you humiliated, emasculated, they lose all respect for you and your relationship is over at that point. Even if you confront them and fight, this gives them a reason to now legally beat the shit out of you without going to jail. Your foid is going to think nothing of you once it's all done and you're back home, she will already be thinking about how to ditch you and find a superior alpha male who will dominate other men.
Women actually get off on their partner dominating other males, it makes them extremely wet as this is a biological programmed behaviour for our early ancestors who used to kill each other and the strongest reigned supreme. You guys obviously have seen it all the time when some decent looking girl is walking around with an absolute ogre subhuman looking tall guy, his only redeeming feature being that he is like 6'3 or 6'4, his face is an absolute subhuman mess but he still automatically mogs every manlet because he makes them look like a child in comparison and his gf gets off on this. And because women are retarded and think taller guy = bigger dick.
This "problem" has no solution. A manlet simply cannot go out with an attractive woman because he will be preyed on by other men and there's nothing he can do. Taller men also try to "subtly" mog you in front of your girl, they'll stand close to you on purpose trying to show you're short and they're tall and then look at your gf, they'll try to talk down to you in any interaction, the list goes on. You think those same taller guys would do this to a 6'2-6'4 jacked dominant male with a beard clearly showing high testosterone/primal indicators? Never. They know better, they know the alpha will humiliate them in front of his girl which will only make her want him more which is why their beta behaviour comes out and they try to get away from the tall dominant alpha male and usually guys like this will keep their distance and not get close, they know the alpha may just mock them or try to fight them even if they haven't disrespected him like they would to a manlet. His very presence alone makes betas cower away. The tall alpha doesn't usually mock manlets, he knows they are not even competition, he sees the other "lesser" taller men and makes sure to show his girl and all other women in his vicinity that he is the dominant one. The same way the alpha dominant lion in a pride bullies the other younger, weaker males to keep them in check, he makes sure they cannot breed with the females and only he gets to do that and once they are bigger, he forces them out of the pride as the only other way is to kill them. When the alpha male dominant lion walks towards a lesser male, the lesser male or even female gets on their back to defend, they don't even try to take on the Alpha in a head on collision as they know the result will end in their death.

Now you guys can say "cope" or whatever other nonsense but you know it's true if you have actual life experience. If you have a gf and are tall/jacked or are a manlet, you've seen and experienced both sides of this happening. This is why i have never been a fan of "prettyboys", especially the guys who go this route and are not tall/big boned. You will be seen as weak by bigger, stronger men IRL and your girl will be taken. The only way prettyboy works is when the guy is like 6'4 and naturally big boned with a big frame, his frame/size alone will ensure men think twice before challenging him regardless of him appearing to be a prettyboy, actual prettyboys like this are not weak at all. The world is full of men who are looking to prey on the weak, being weak as a man is not permissible, you will be "buck broken" so to say.

@SecularIslamist i told you this very thing quite some time ago but nobody seems to listen. You go out and you see an attractive woman with a taller, dominant man, he's constantly scanning for any threats and will check any male who even tries to get close to his woman to try and sneakily attract her. This is the law of nature and our laws that protect us can only do so much. GL getting that HTB who will have every man oogling at her thinking how they can get rid of you and take her when you go out. Hell, guys are so despearte these days, even a MTB will get stares and people approaching her and disrespecting you as a manlet as if you are not even there, as if you don't even exist. I have seen this IRL myself, a manlet with a cute MTB, some tall guy approaches her, calls her pretty and asks for her number, the manlet just stares at him and is entirely disrespected. His girl sees he is a beta and loses respect for him and the relationship is soon over or she ends up cheating not long after. Muslimcels can somewhat avoid this by making sure their girl is in hijab and this usually keeps men away as for one, they know the woman is married and two depending on where you live, there are two risks. Disrespecting a muslim man can result in him disappearing for 10 minutes and coming back with 10 of his cousins with baseball bats who put you in the hospital, and then there's also the risk of jail as you can easily be indicted for racism/racial attack if the man defends his wife and you beat him up anyways, police love putting away "racists", there's also the fact that ethnics are tribal, especially muslims. One muslim man is being attacked by a white guy and 5 other muslim men who don't even know him but were across the street will come and beat the shit out of the attacker just because tribalism and the protection that religion provides them, making it mandatory to defend their "brother". They do this also because they know if they allow it to happen, the same can happen to them/their girl and nobody will help. Also, everyone knows ethnics are shorter/weaker and so there is strength in numbers. No matter how tall/dominant an alpha is, he isn't taking on 5 grown men at once, and so he will back down and leave with his respect in tact knowing not to challenge the group. This is however seperate from me talking about single male manlet out with his girl though but thought i'd address it anyways.



Here's a quote from none other than Salludon. Even he understand looks alone are nothing, other men will try him if he doesn't gymcel/look dominant/alpha and luckily he's 6'1 so not much of an issue for him.

So it's over my fellow manlets, no matter what you do, it's fucking over. There's no "ascending" with surgeries/etc because you're still going to get your girl stolen by 6'4 alpha males. Your only hope is to carry a knife with you whenever you leave the house, most men will instantly disengage when they see the knife, their superior stature isn't going to help when you gut them like a fish but ultimately this isn't a solution as you will just run into problems if you do defend yourself against a lanklet.
yes, I read all of this. yes, I agree with it all. yes, I think it's women's and lanklets' fault for not controlling their "instincts". also, wish I could carry a loaded gun with me in public just so I could be able to stop anyone from taking away what could be mine, but I think I could find better things like a stun gun (one of those long baton-like tasers. saw one irl and they're actually scary)
 
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I think being with taller guy is more socially acceptable like u will be seen down if u judge ppl by looks but all of them do it subconsciously anyways but u know the thing would be obvious so yea n most of the beckies do that tho
 
Bro this is 2025 I don think ppl are doing this much
 
Lets say you are 5'8 or 5'9 and "ascend", you go from a LTN to a HTN with surgeries, etc. You finally get a girl who is pretty hot and ofcourse women love going out so you can't just rot at home with her all day, you have to take her out on dates to places where there are going to be lots of people. The main thing here is that there are going to be SINGLE MEN who will instantly focus on you like a hawk 1 mile in the sky looking down at its prey, taller guys with bigger frames will instantly see you as weak, they don't care that you are "HTN" or whatever, they see a small man with a smaller frame. On your own, they simply wouldn't bother engaging with you or giving you any attention because of their superiority complex, but since you are with a hot woman and they are single, this triggers a rage in them, they feel entitled that they should have that woman instead of you because they are taller even though they most likely are uglier facially.

Now what happens when there's 2 guys or 3 together who see you as weak manlet and then come for you to steal your girl, what the fuck are you going to do?
Women can say whatever they want but the truth is that they are attracted to the strongest most alpha male possible, this is partially why they like tall men because they know they can protect and their stature alone is enough to intimidate other men and demands respect. They love 6'4 ogres with massive frames who are gymcelled because such guys brutally mog every guy in their vicinity without even lifting a finger, it is the law of nature. The biggest and strongest predator reigns supreme, all the weaker ones look down in submission, this is a universal law, you will see it with dogs, cats, lions, tigers, the list goes on. When a bigger, stronger male approaches, the weaker and smaller male submits because he knows he is completely at the mercy of the genetically superior specimen and ofcourse the alpha usually spares the beta because it would cost too much energy to beat them to a pulp unless ofcourse.... there is a woman he can steal from the weaker male and this does occur. See: Lions. Male lions usually have prides, multiple females around them, there can be either a lone male with a smaller pride, or two or three males with a bigger pride. What happens? Stronger, more alpha Male lions intrude into the lions "territory" and kill the weaker smaller male and then what? the females submit and accept the bigger and stronger alpha lion who conquered their mate, so they now willingly breed with him and carry his cubs instead. This is nature, the strong simply kill the weak and take the females. Now human beings are a little different because we have the rule of law, the threat of being imprisoned keeps the alpha males in check, they know they cannot simply go up to betas, stomp their head in and take their woman, so they do what they can which is to humiliate the weaker, smaller manlet male who is with a hot woman, they do this right in front of the woman to show they are the dominant male and we all know how women work, once they see you humiliated, emasculated, they lose all respect for you and your relationship is over at that point. Even if you confront them and fight, this gives them a reason to now legally beat the shit out of you without going to jail. Your foid is going to think nothing of you once it's all done and you're back home, she will already be thinking about how to ditch you and find a superior alpha male who will dominate other men.
Women actually get off on their partner dominating other males, it makes them extremely wet as this is a biological programmed behaviour for our early ancestors who used to kill each other and the strongest reigned supreme. You guys obviously have seen it all the time when some decent looking girl is walking around with an absolute ogre subhuman looking tall guy, his only redeeming feature being that he is like 6'3 or 6'4, his face is an absolute subhuman mess but he still automatically mogs every manlet because he makes them look like a child in comparison and his gf gets off on this. And because women are retarded and think taller guy = bigger dick.
This "problem" has no solution. A manlet simply cannot go out with an attractive woman because he will be preyed on by other men and there's nothing he can do. Taller men also try to "subtly" mog you in front of your girl, they'll stand close to you on purpose trying to show you're short and they're tall and then look at your gf, they'll try to talk down to you in any interaction, the list goes on. You think those same taller guys would do this to a 6'2-6'4 jacked dominant male with a beard clearly showing high testosterone/primal indicators? Never. They know better, they know the alpha will humiliate them in front of his girl which will only make her want him more which is why their beta behaviour comes out and they try to get away from the tall dominant alpha male and usually guys like this will keep their distance and not get close, they know the alpha may just mock them or try to fight them even if they haven't disrespected him like they would to a manlet. His very presence alone makes betas cower away. The tall alpha doesn't usually mock manlets, he knows they are not even competition, he sees the other "lesser" taller men and makes sure to show his girl and all other women in his vicinity that he is the dominant one. The same way the alpha dominant lion in a pride bullies the other younger, weaker males to keep them in check, he makes sure they cannot breed with the females and only he gets to do that and once they are bigger, he forces them out of the pride as the only other way is to kill them. When the alpha male dominant lion walks towards a lesser male, the lesser male or even female gets on their back to defend, they don't even try to take on the Alpha in a head on collision as they know the result will end in their death.

Now you guys can say "cope" or whatever other nonsense but you know it's true if you have actual life experience. If you have a gf and are tall/jacked or are a manlet, you've seen and experienced both sides of this happening. This is why i have never been a fan of "prettyboys", especially the guys who go this route and are not tall/big boned. You will be seen as weak by bigger, stronger men IRL and your girl will be taken. The only way prettyboy works is when the guy is like 6'4 and naturally big boned with a big frame, his frame/size alone will ensure men think twice before challenging him regardless of him appearing to be a prettyboy, actual prettyboys like this are not weak at all. The world is full of men who are looking to prey on the weak, being weak as a man is not permissible, you will be "buck broken" so to say.

@SecularIslamist i told you this very thing quite some time ago but nobody seems to listen. You go out and you see an attractive woman with a taller, dominant man, he's constantly scanning for any threats and will check any male who even tries to get close to his woman to try and sneakily attract her. This is the law of nature and our laws that protect us can only do so much. GL getting that HTB who will have every man oogling at her thinking how they can get rid of you and take her when you go out. Hell, guys are so despearte these days, even a MTB will get stares and people approaching her and disrespecting you as a manlet as if you are not even there, as if you don't even exist. I have seen this IRL myself, a manlet with a cute MTB, some tall guy approaches her, calls her pretty and asks for her number, the manlet just stares at him and is entirely disrespected. His girl sees he is a beta and loses respect for him and the relationship is soon over or she ends up cheating not long after. Muslimcels can somewhat avoid this by making sure their girl is in hijab and this usually keeps men away as for one, they know the woman is married and two depending on where you live, there are two risks. Disrespecting a muslim man can result in him disappearing for 10 minutes and coming back with 10 of his cousins with baseball bats who put you in the hospital, and then there's also the risk of jail as you can easily be indicted for racism/racial attack if the man defends his wife and you beat him up anyways, police love putting away "racists", there's also the fact that ethnics are tribal, especially muslims. One muslim man is being attacked by a white guy and 5 other muslim men who don't even know him but were across the street will come and beat the shit out of the attacker just because tribalism and the protection that religion provides them, making it mandatory to defend their "brother". They do this also because they know if they allow it to happen, the same can happen to them/their girl and nobody will help. Also, everyone knows ethnics are shorter/weaker and so there is strength in numbers. No matter how tall/dominant an alpha is, he isn't taking on 5 grown men at once, and so he will back down and leave with his respect in tact knowing not to challenge the group. This is however seperate from me talking about single male manlet out with his girl though but thought i'd address it anyways.



Here's a quote from none other than Salludon. Even he understand looks alone are nothing, other men will try him if he doesn't gymcel/look dominant/alpha and luckily he's 6'1 so not much of an issue for him.

So it's over my fellow manlets, no matter what you do, it's fucking over. There's no "ascending" with surgeries/etc because you're still going to get your girl stolen by 6'4 alpha males. Your only hope is to carry a knife with you whenever you leave the house, most men will instantly disengage when they see the knife, their superior stature isn't going to help when you gut them like a fish but ultimately this isn't a solution as you will just run into problems if you do defend yourself against a lanklet.
Height + frame > face
 
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learn how to fight. you can take on a guy who is taller or weighs more in a street fight if he doesn't even know how to kick or punch.

or just carry a gun
 
"So it's over my fellow manlets, no matter what you do, it's fucking over."
i like how you project your insecurities onto me, dont call me a little boy if you have to use a ladder to look me in the eyes
he clearly said
my fellow manlets
are you able to read comprehensively?
 
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let me tell you some real shit
no matter what you say or do, you'll never compare to others because of your height. youre not taken seriously, it happens subconsciously, whether the person likes you or not

you cannot cope with your height
yeah thats the whole point of his thread 🤦‍♂️ youre writing as if his wrote a thread about how its NOT over for manlets. you geniunely cant read, can you?
 
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