Consider COLLAGEN supplements: the best (and cheapest) is GELATIN !!!!!!

[Deleted member 8365]

Evidence​

For maximum skin health, collagen helps, as proved in one of the gold standard of science, systematic reviews: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30681787/

Findings: Eleven studies with a total of 805 patients were included for review. Eight studies used collagen hydrolysate, 2.5g/d to 10g/d, for 8 to 24 weeks, for the treatment of pressure ulcers, xerosis, skin aging, and cellulite. Two studies used collagen tripeptide, 3g/d for 4 to 12 weeks, with notable improvement in skin elasticity and hydration. Lastly, one study using collagen dipeptide suggested anti-aging efficacy is proportionate to collagen dipeptide content. Conclusions and Relevance: Preliminary results are promising for the short and long-term use of oral collagen supplements for wound healing and skin aging. Oral collagen supplements also increase skin elasticity, hydration, and dermal collagen density. Collagen supplementation is generally safe with no reported adverse events. Further studies are needed to elucidate medical use in skin barrier diseases such as atopic dermatitis and to determine optimal dosing regimens

Only a meta analysis could be of higher degree of proof.

It's not just collagen, some other things might help, as this is also found in https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6835901/ where added things like Vitamin C and E, Zinc and Biotin:

The test product significantly improved skin hydration, elasticity, roughness, and density. The differences between the verum group and the placebo group were statistically significant for all test parameters. These positive effects were substantially retained during the follow-up. The measured effects were fully consistent with the subjective assessments of the study participants.

IDK about you, but I take these supplements anyway. However, most people don't consider collagen or even gelatin, so this post is about it.

Gelatin is the same amino acids as in collagen, cf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelatin

The amino acid content of hydrolyzed collagen is the same as collagen. Hydrolyzed collagen contains 19 amino acids, predominantly glycine (Gly) 26-34%, proline (Pro) 10-18%, and hydroxyproline (Hyp) 7-15%, which together represent around 50% of the total amino acid content.[11] Glycine is responsible for close packing of the chains. Presence of proline restricts the conformation. This is important for gelation properties of gelatin.[12] Other amino acids that contribute highly include: alanine (Ala) 8-11%; arginine (Arg) 8-9%; aspartic acid (Asp) 6-7%; and glutamic acid (Glu) 10-12%.[11]

But why gelatin? Why not collagen gummies?​

First, it absorbs better. It's been studied and proved not just to increase blood levels, but to be included in the skin 2x as much as the separate amino acids: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5183725/

Mouse studies that used 14C-labeled gelatin hydrolysate (33) further demonstrated that, although tracer from proline could be incorporated into skin collagen at the same rate as tracer from gelatin, tracer from the gelatin was incorporated into the collagen of cartilage and muscle twice as much as tracer from proline

Second, it's cheaper - way cheaper, and safer that supplements: you can have it twice a day if you don't do OMAD, in larger amounts, and not just glycine or proline, but 4 amino acids:

Here, we show that after ingestion of gelatin in humans, glycine, proline, hydroxyproline, and hydroxylysine peak in the blood after 1 h

Also, even if supplements company may do some tests, I'm sure Kroger (and the FDA) takes the quality of the gelatin they sell in supermarket even more seriously than ShadyCompany that sells on Amazon.

Third, eating jello is fun! If you make flavored jello (no need for sugar if you use rose water and/or orange blossom water from your local indian supermarket), you can eat a fun food instead of swallowing pills - same reason why I prefer Kimchi or Natto to vitamin K pills. I've included a few recipes below.

Fourth, it's easy to make and you can add stuff to it, like vitamin C or the other supplement powders you take. I prefer to take my vit C separately as I'm afraid the heat would have a bad effect.

Finally, it's super fast: Once I'm done eating my jello, it takes me 1 min to boil water in the microwave, add gelatin powder, the orange blossom water, then put the container in the fridge so that it's ready next time I need it. That's nothing compared to meal prep.

Dose and timing jelly with exercice​

If you some form of exercice, consider eating gelatin 1h before: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5183725/

Supplementation with increasing amounts of gelatin increased circulating glycine, proline, hydroxyproline, and hydroxylysine, peaking 1 h after the supplement was given. Engineered ligaments treated for 6 d with serum from samples collected before or 1 h after subjects consumed a placebo or 5 or 15 g gelatin showed increased collagen content and improved mechanics. Subjects who took 15 g gelatin 1 h before exercise showed double the amino-terminal propeptide of collagen I in their blood, indicating increased collagen synthesis.

15g is like 3 doses of the gelatin I get at my local supermarket. It takes about one bowl of water. I prefer to take the vitamin C separately, but at the same time.

Possible recipes​

If you're not as much of a health freak as I try to be, and want to make gelatin very fun, there are many recipes:

Matcha jelly: https://kirbiecravings.com/matcha-jelly/

Coffee jelly: http://julesfood.blogspot.com/2013/06/vietnamese-coffee-jelly-desserteasy.html

Juice flavored: https://www.food.com/recipe/fruit-juice-knox-blox-196761#activity-feed

You can also do savory recipes with bone broth jelly. Gelatin is fun (and wiggly)

Limits​

It won't do if you are vegan: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/gelatin-source/

JELL-O is made from gelatin, an animal product rendered from the hides and bones of animals, typically pork skins, pork, horses, cattle bones, and split cattle hides." per Snopes.

As gelatin is made from leftover parts, it's unlikely to be why animals are butchered. So I don't feel bad about that.

And when I feel bad about meat, I try to remember these funny 3 rules in life:

1. if it's alive, kill it
2. if it's dead, cook it
3. rinse and repeat if it was yummy!

I hope it was informative, and it may cause you to start adding gelatin to your meals

 

[WonderChad]

Have u noticed any changes in collagen from consunming gelatin

 

[BloodClot]

I’m not a huge fan of jello

 

[Deleted member 8365]

Have u noticed any changes in collagen from consunming gelatin

Yes a lot bro

 

[Deleted member 8365]

I’m not a huge fan of jello

Try bone broth

 

[Deleted member 8365]

I’m not a huge fan of jello

Or bone tallow

 

[Deleted member 8365]

@Ekil73_YT

 

[WonderChad]

Yes a lot bro

Can u elaborate

 

[Deleted member 8365]

Can u elaborate

I have far less Wrinkle on the forehead and my skin texture is far Better

 

[Deleted member 30843]

just eat semen

 

[Deleted member 30019]

Evidence​

For maximum skin health, collagen helps, as proved in one of the gold standard of science, systematic reviews: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30681787/


Only a meta analysis could be of higher degree of proof.

It's not just collagen, some other things might help, as this is also found in https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6835901/ where added things like Vitamin C and E, Zinc and Biotin:


IDK about you, but I take these supplements anyway. However, most people don't consider collagen or even gelatin, so this post is about it.

Gelatin is the same amino acids as in collagen, cf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelatin

But why gelatin? Why not collagen gummies?​

First, it absorbs better. It's been studied and proved not just to increase blood levels, but to be included in the skin 2x as much as the separate amino acids: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5183725/


Second, it's cheaper - way cheaper, and safer that supplements: you can have it twice a day if you don't do OMAD, in larger amounts, and not just glycine or proline, but 4 amino acids:


Also, even if supplements company may do some tests, I'm sure Kroger (and the FDA) takes the quality of the gelatin they sell in supermarket even more seriously than ShadyCompany that sells on Amazon.

Third, eating jello is fun! If you make flavored jello (no need for sugar if you use rose water and/or orange blossom water from your local indian supermarket), you can eat a fun food instead of swallowing pills - same reason why I prefer Kimchi or Natto to vitamin K pills. I've included a few recipes below.

Fourth, it's easy to make and you can add stuff to it, like vitamin C or the other supplement powders you take. I prefer to take my vit C separately as I'm afraid the heat would have a bad effect.

Finally, it's super fast: Once I'm done eating my jello, it takes me 1 min to boil water in the microwave, add gelatin powder, the orange blossom water, then put the container in the fridge so that it's ready next time I need it. That's nothing compared to meal prep.

Dose and timing jelly with exercice​

If you some form of exercice, consider eating gelatin 1h before: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5183725/


15g is like 3 doses of the gelatin I get at my local supermarket. It takes about one bowl of water. I prefer to take the vitamin C separately, but at the same time.

Possible recipes​

If you're not as much of a health freak as I try to be, and want to make gelatin very fun, there are many recipes:

Matcha jelly: https://kirbiecravings.com/matcha-jelly/

Coffee jelly: http://julesfood.blogspot.com/2013/06/vietnamese-coffee-jelly-desserteasy.html

Juice flavored: https://www.food.com/recipe/fruit-juice-knox-blox-196761#activity-feed

You can also do savory recipes with bone broth jelly. Gelatin is fun (and wiggly)

Limits​

It won't do if you are vegan: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/gelatin-source/


As gelatin is made from leftover parts, it's unlikely to be why animals are butchered. So I don't feel bad about that.

And when I feel bad about meat, I try to remember these funny 3 rules in life:

1. if it's alive, kill it
2. if it's dead, cook it
3. rinse and repeat if it was yummy!

I hope it was informative, and it may cause you to start adding gelatin to your meals

GELATIN - HARAM
it is made from pigs

 

[Deleted member 1901]

I have gelatin but I’m usually too lazy to make jello. Also, it tastes a lot better when sweet, but I can’t add any sugar to it because that would compromise my objective of anti-aging.

Usually I take 20 g collagen peptides per day but it’s definitely expensive. I’ll start jellomaxxing again probably.

Also, vitamin c supplements are not recommended imo because you could just eat sweet peppers, which are extremely high in vitamin c.

 

[Deleted member 8365]

GELATIN - HARAM
it is made from pigs

i take halal ones if you are Muslim you can still take bone broth too

 

[Deleted member 8365]

I have gelatin but I’m usually too lazy to make jello. Also, it tastes a lot better when sweet, but I can’t add any sugar to it because that would compromise my objective of anti-aging.

Usually I take 20 g collagen peptides per day but it’s definitely expensive. I’ll start jellomaxxing again probably.

Also, vitamin c supplements are not recommended imo because you could just eat sweet peppers, which are extremely high in vitamin c.

Use orange juice or any juicy fruits no ?

or you don’t eat or drink fruits too..?

 

[Deleted member 8365]

I have gelatin but I’m usually too lazy to make jello. Also, it tastes a lot better when sweet, but I can’t add any sugar to it because that would compromise my objective of anti-aging.

Usually I take 20 g collagen peptides per day but it’s definitely expensive. I’ll start jellomaxxing again probably.

Also, vitamin c supplements are not recommended imo because you could just eat sweet peppers, which are extremely high in vitamin c.

Tbh I usually mix my gelatin with banana smoothie or put it in any soup

 

[rand anon]

 

[Deleted member 1901]

Use orange juice or any juicy fruits no ?

or you don’t eat or drink fruits too..?

Fructose is bad.

I don’t consume fruits, honey, or juice, except for sweet peppers and avocados and rarely a few berries or other moderately sweet fruits

Trying to cheat a low fructose diet with natural fructose will cause harm

 

[Deleted member 30019]

i take halal ones if you are Muslim you can still take bone broth too

Why don't they eat pork in Islam? I know that she eats jackals when she fights them off. This is all?

 

[Deleted member 30019]

Fructose is bad.

I don’t consume fruits, honey, or juice, except for sweet peppers and avocados and rarely a few berries or other moderately sweet fruits

Trying to cheat a low fructose diet with natural fructose will cause harm

I drink tea with honey 7 times every day, and I thought I had the right diet

 

[Deleted member 1901]

I drink tea with honey 7 times every day, and I thought I had the right diet

Honey is not healthy. As a rare treat it can be part of a healthy diet and does have benefits unlike added sugar but it’s not a cheat to a healthy diet. Low sugar is ideal and low sugar means low sugar. Glucose is fine but not fructose

 

[Deleted member 8365]

Fructose is bad.

I don’t consume fruits, honey, or juice, except for sweet peppers and avocados and rarely a few berries or other moderately sweet fruits

Trying to cheat a low fructose diet with natural fructose will cause harm

Damn…

you are dedicated

 

[Deleted member 8365]

Fructose is bad.

I don’t consume fruits, honey, or juice, except for sweet peppers and avocados and rarely a few berries or other moderately sweet fruits

Trying to cheat a low fructose diet with natural fructose will cause harm

Will eat less banana now

 

[Deleted member 8365]

Why don't they eat pork in Islam? I know that she eats jackals when she fights them off. This is all?

Pork is unhygienic,omnivore,eat trash

 

[Deleted member 8365]

Honey is not healthy. As a rare treat it can be part of a healthy diet and does have benefits unlike added sugar but it’s not a cheat to a healthy diet. Low sugar is ideal and low sugar means low sugar. Glucose is fine but not fructose

What type of glucose is healthy ?

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Over for muzzies

 

[Deleted member 30019]

Pork is unhygienic,omnivore,eat trash

so that eating it is very harmful? How to eat a KFS chicken?

 

[Deleted member 8365]

so that eating it is very harmful? How to eat a KFS chicken?

it need to be halal

non halal kfc is bad

 

[Deleted member 1901]

What type of glucose is healthy ?

Idk if there is multiple kinds of glucose

 

[Krakowski]

I have gelatin but I’m usually too lazy to make jello. Also, it tastes a lot better when sweet, but I can’t add any sugar to it because that would compromise my objective of anti-aging.

Usually I take 20 g collagen peptides per day but it’s definitely expensive. I’ll start jellomaxxing again probably.

Also, vitamin c supplements are not recommended imo because you could just eat sweet peppers, which are extremely high in vitamin c.

How do I get it from foods?

 

[Deleted member 8365]

Idk if there is multiple kinds of glucose

I’m eating this rn , is it bad ?

 

[Deleted member 1901]

Will eat less banana now

One banana a day is already pushing it imo and if you eat multiple or a banana and other sugary fruits that’s way more than ideal

I eat approximately 2 avocados and 4 small sweet peppers per day, which is all my fruit

Avocados have less than a gram of fructose and sweet peppers only 2 grams per 100 grams

 

[Deleted member 8365]

One banana a day is already pushing it imo and if you eat multiple or a banana and other sugary fruits that’s way more than ideal

I eat approximately 2 avocados and 4 small sweet peppers per day, which is all my fruit

Avocados have less than a gram of fructose and sweet peppers only 2 grams per 100 grams

You mix it ?

 

[Deleted member 1901]

How do I get it from foods?

You can’t get gelatin from natural foods I don’t think but you get collagen from animal skin, tendons, cartilage, and bones

 

[Deleted member 1901]

You mix it ?

No, I eat individually

 

[Deleted member 1901]

View attachment 2472021 I’m eating this rn , is it bad ?

Well generally sauces are unhealthy and you should eat whole foods

Also, meat intake should be low daily or consumed in high amounts but infrequently

After eating things like rice do exercise to reduce the blood glucose increase

 

[Deleted member 8365]

Well generally sauces are unhealthy and you should eat whole foods

Also, meat intake should be low daily or consumed in high amounts but infrequently

After eating things like rice do exercise to reduce the blood glucose increase

Thanks for the advice bro

i will do HIIT

 

[Deleted member 1901]

Thanks for the advice bro

i will do HIIT

HIIT is usually overdone. for longevity, it should be a relatively small amount of time per week

Walking is the best exercise to be done a lot. Weightlifting is good for preserving muscles but doesn’t need to be done much for longevity

Overexercise may compromise longevity and exercise should be done after meals ideally

 

[Deleted member 8365]

HIIT is usually overdone. for longevity, it should be a relatively small amount of time per week

Walking is the best exercise to be done a lot. Weightlifting is good for preserving muscles but doesn’t need to be done much for longevity

Overexercise may compromise longevity and exercise should be done after meals ideally

How many times per week?

also is bulking useless ?

 

[Deleted member 1901]

How many times per week?

also is bulking useless ?

Bulking with a caloric surplus accelerate aging. Lean bulking is good if you are weak but if you are already fit then bulking more will be no better for anti aging.

Hit should be done maybe 30 minutes per week (I just made that up)

 

[depressionmaxxing]

HIIT is usually overdone. for longevity, it should be a relatively small amount of time per week

Walking is the best exercise to be done a lot. Weightlifting is good for preserving muscles but doesn’t need to be done much for longevity

Overexercise may compromise longevity and exercise should be done after meals ideally

You should make a mogger high iq thread about gelatin, fructose, diet, and exercise in correlation to anti aging

 

[Struggler03]

collagen supplements are overrated, your body produces enough collagen by itself, topical treatments are much more cost effective and better than wasting money on collagen supps

 

[Deleted member 8365]

Bulking with a caloric surplus accelerate aging. Lean bulking is good if you are weak but if you are already fit then bulking more will be no better for anti aging.

Hit should be done maybe 30 minutes per week (I just made that up)

So just one session

 

[Deleted member 1901]

So just one session

No you can split it up

 

[depressionmaxxing]

No you can split it up

opinion on 1.5mm derma stamp for acne scars and extra collagen?

 

[Deleted member 1901]

opinion on 1.5mm derma stamp for acne scars and extra collagen?

Causes aging

 

[rand anon]

Idk if there is multiple kinds of glucose

Does glycine work?

 

[lovemaxer]

Evidence​

For maximum skin health, collagen helps, as proved in one of the gold standard of science, systematic reviews: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30681787/


Only a meta analysis could be of higher degree of proof.

It's not just collagen, some other things might help, as this is also found in https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6835901/ where added things like Vitamin C and E, Zinc and Biotin:


IDK about you, but I take these supplements anyway. However, most people don't consider collagen or even gelatin, so this post is about it.

Gelatin is the same amino acids as in collagen, cf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelatin

But why gelatin? Why not collagen gummies?​

First, it absorbs better. It's been studied and proved not just to increase blood levels, but to be included in the skin 2x as much as the separate amino acids: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5183725/


Second, it's cheaper - way cheaper, and safer that supplements: you can have it twice a day if you don't do OMAD, in larger amounts, and not just glycine or proline, but 4 amino acids:


Also, even if supplements company may do some tests, I'm sure Kroger (and the FDA) takes the quality of the gelatin they sell in supermarket even more seriously than ShadyCompany that sells on Amazon.

Third, eating jello is fun! If you make flavored jello (no need for sugar if you use rose water and/or orange blossom water from your local indian supermarket), you can eat a fun food instead of swallowing pills - same reason why I prefer Kimchi or Natto to vitamin K pills. I've included a few recipes below.

Fourth, it's easy to make and you can add stuff to it, like vitamin C or the other supplement powders you take. I prefer to take my vit C separately as I'm afraid the heat would have a bad effect.

Finally, it's super fast: Once I'm done eating my jello, it takes me 1 min to boil water in the microwave, add gelatin powder, the orange blossom water, then put the container in the fridge so that it's ready next time I need it. That's nothing compared to meal prep.

Dose and timing jelly with exercice​

If you some form of exercice, consider eating gelatin 1h before: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5183725/


15g is like 3 doses of the gelatin I get at my local supermarket. It takes about one bowl of water. I prefer to take the vitamin C separately, but at the same time.

Possible recipes​

If you're not as much of a health freak as I try to be, and want to make gelatin very fun, there are many recipes:

Matcha jelly: https://kirbiecravings.com/matcha-jelly/

Coffee jelly: http://julesfood.blogspot.com/2013/06/vietnamese-coffee-jelly-desserteasy.html

Juice flavored: https://www.food.com/recipe/fruit-juice-knox-blox-196761#activity-feed

You can also do savory recipes with bone broth jelly. Gelatin is fun (and wiggly)

Limits​

It won't do if you are vegan: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/gelatin-source/


As gelatin is made from leftover parts, it's unlikely to be why animals are butchered. So I don't feel bad about that.

And when I feel bad about meat, I try to remember these funny 3 rules in life:

1. if it's alive, kill it
2. if it's dead, cook it
3. rinse and repeat if it was yummy!

I hope it was informative, and it may cause you to start adding gelatin to your meals

Chad thread how would u compare collagen vs gelatin
Which is better / price

 

[Deleted member 8365]

Chad thread how would u compare collagen vs gelatin
Which is better / price

Gelatin is better and cheaper

 

[depressionmaxxing]

Causes aging

I‘ve heard.

Even when used for a short period? (=1-2months, every 2weeks)

 

[Deleted member 8365]

I‘ve heard.

Even when used for a short period? (=1-2months, every 2weeks)

@Ekil73_YT