Control her mind: make her obsessed with you

[trenace450]

What you've explained are manipulation techniques. I've never talked about actual manipulation, much less isolating it. What you've explained can be perfectly applied if you want a woman who is completely submissive and who molds her entire personality to you, which I don't recommend

"You have to start alternating hot and cold, creating drama out of nothing if necessary, and then put her back on a pedestal."
This is literally lovebombing you fucking retard lol. Also what i explained, is quire literally molding your entire personality TO HERS, not the other way around. And only enough to make her think it's spiritual and special. And i didn't just explain manipulation techniques, i specifically explained step by step which methods to apply and how to apply them, in order to control the foid
But yeah sure, you "never talked about actual manipulation", except for literally the same exact thing i talked about jfl

 

[LA_vxmpk1NG]

The degeneration of our society has pushed men to passively accept, even normalizing, dynamics that shouldn't be normalized, like letting your girlfriend like other guys' photos, letting your girlfriend go clubbing with her friends while 10 other betas try to approach her and stick their disgusting 4-inch dicks in her, letting your girlfriend post half-naked photos, and more. And guess what? You're not okay with all of this? "You're insecure." I'm sorry, but I think insecurity lies precisely in accepting these kinds of dynamics because you're afraid of being alone and think you'll never find anything better than a slut who keeps you on a leash while she seeks validation.

That said, the purpose of this guide is precisely to help you avoid these kinds of dynamics. I've had 3 liters, one of which lasted four and a half years, so I've gained quite a bit of experience.
First of all, you mustn't make the mistake of looking for a woman without values and completely submissive to you. Even if she gives you dopamine, ego, and temporary control, you still won't be able to truly respect and love her, because you know that everything she does for you doesn't come from her moral compass and values, but solely from the fear of losing you. At the same time, you can't even look for a degenerate whore and hope to change her, because she'll always be a degenerate whore, and even if you were to change her, you know deep down that change is merely a matter of convenience, always tied to the fear of losing the only cuckold who has decided to accept her degeneration.
What you need to do is find a woman who seems to share your same values, who isn't a slut and who isn't a total submissive with no standards. From here on, we'll divide the escalation into two phases:

1. Idealization:
This is the initial phase, where you've just gotten to know each other. Here, you need to be very good at projecting her desires. You don't have to be a spineless idiot who goes along with everything she says, mind you. It simply means she needs to idealize you. At this stage, you should start sowing the seeds of control that you'll need later, but you have to be subtle: if you talk about other couples, for example, you point out cuckold dynamics that you don't like, but you have to do it subtly, trying to build a logical framework around it, so that she begins to question what society has always led her to believe is right and begins to see you as someone who knows better. Don't do it too much, or too often, or she'll perceive it as a red flag. You need to do it every now and then, only at the right time, keeping in mind that at this stage, the primary goal is idealization. "I've always wanted a man like him." This should be the phrase she says when talking to her friends.
At this point, you shouldn't be too territorial with her; on the contrary, show that you have options, but not in a direct way. I'm not saying you have to show her you're talking to four other sluts. Women can sense when they're dealing with a pre-selected man, so you have to do just enough, like telling her about a hypothetical friend of yours who hit on you and you rejected her, but without seeming bragging, otherwise you'll start her playing similar psychological games with you. If she does, you'll obviously react with indifference.

2. Obsession.
After you get together, she has to be literally obsessed with you. For this to happen, if you've played your cards right in the first phase, she's already obsessed with you. Here comes the hardest part: you have to keep this obsession going. You have to start alternating hot and cold, creating drama out of nothing if necessary, and then put her back on a pedestal. Believe me, she'll become literally obsessed with you, and if you think she'll still think about other guys, you're wrong. Women are emotional, and when you completely mess up their emotional brains, they won't be able to help but think about you. After a while, in every one of my relationships, I started to show my territoriality in an increasingly dominant way: I asked for their social media passwords, I deleted every single man they followed on Instagram, I asked to look through their phones from top to bottom without them batting an eyelid, etc. To achieve this, you have two ways to do it: the first is based on complicity, which is the one I prefer. You have to make her believe that giving you the passwords is a gesture of complicity, a game. Do I like other guys? You have to make her understand how sleazy it is, because you are a unique couple, above these superficial dynamics, and that she shouldn't feel the slightest attraction to any man other than you. And finally, you’ll eliminate them one by one. None of my girlfriends has ever stopped me or resisted giving me their password, and if they had, the second option would have been fear. You have to make her understand that she risks losing you. This is something I don't like, because I prefer them to think that the degenerate behaviors 90% of sluts exhibit are actually wrong. In fact, I think I'd actually walk away if she objected to something like this, but if you really want to try to compromise, you can do so through fear. Do you really think she wants to lose a high-value man who seems above superficial social dynamics, is good-looking, and also fucks her well? I don't think so, so she'll compromise.

I advise you to be careful, though, because you could end up making the relationship feel like being trapped in a cage. So if she's actually a good girl and wants to go for coffee with a friend one afternoon, there's nothing wrong with that. You simply have to avoid all the other submissive cuckold dynamics that people label as freedom of choice

You need to study the dark triad.

 

[true ascension]

"You have to start alternating hot and cold, creating drama out of nothing if necessary, and then put her back on a pedestal."
This is literally lovebombing you fucking retard lol. Also what i explained, is quire literally molding your entire personality TO HERS, not the other way around. And only enough to make her think it's spiritual and special. And i didn't just explain manipulation techniques, i specifically explained step by step which methods to apply and how to apply them, in order to control the foid
But yeah sure, you "never talked about actual manipulation", except for literally the same exact thing i talked about jfl

I didn't say I didn't talk about manipulation, I said I didn't talk about actual manipulation in the way you applied it. Because the way you explained it, there's no room for being even a little genuine. Modeling her entire personality to her is exactly what I said and what I advise against. You talk about shaping the personality, but you know, ultimately, that the way you're talking about it, you're essentially referring to women with no personality.

 

[trenace450]

I didn't say I didn't talk about manipulation, I said I didn't talk about actual manipulation in the way you applied it. Because the way you explained it, there's no room for being even a little genuine. Modeling her entire personality to her is exactly what I said and what I advise against. You talk about shaping the personality, but you know, ultimately, that the way you're talking about it, you're essentially referring to women with no personality.

So it's not actual manipulation if you're still a little genuine? That's retarded and you know it, people manipulate all the time whilst being somewhat "genuine". Also what you said, was that the foid models her personality to yours, not the other way around.
Also all foids have no personality that's the point. They have superficial interests and hobbies, which is what should be utilized against them as a form of manipulation.
You're already talking about "getting her obsessed with you" which is essentially only in order to serve ones own interests and gain. Is it genuine to intentionally make someone obsessed with you? No so why would you want to be "a little bit". There's room for being a little genuine if someone desires to, but there's also no reason to, it will work the same either way.

 

[true ascension]

So it's not actual manipulation if you're still a little genuine? That's retarded and you know it, people manipulate all the time whilst being somewhat "genuine". Also what you said, was that the foid models her personality to yours, not the other way around.
Also all foids have no personality that's the point. They have superficial interests and hobbies, which is what should be utilized against them as a form of manipulation.
You're already talking about "getting her obsessed with you" which is essentially only in order to serve ones own interests and gain. Is it genuine to intentionally make someone obsessed with you? No so why would you want to be "a little bit". There's room for being a little genuine if someone desires to, but there's also no reason to, it will work the same either way.

You're right, because as you said, we all manipulate, even unconsciously. But I think it also depends on the extent to which you do it, which is why I also mentioned authenticity. But by "making her obsessed with you," at least in my case, I didn't just mean taking advantage of myself, because I obviously assume you love this person anyway. Yes, I was talking about girls who shape their personality based on their partner's. What do you mean by the opposite?

 

[true ascension]

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[trenace450]

You're right, because as you said, we all manipulate, even unconsciously. But I think it also depends on the extent to which you do it, which is why I also mentioned authenticity. But by "making her obsessed with you," at least in my case, I didn't just mean taking advantage of myself, because I obviously assume you love this person anyway. Yes, I was talking about girls who shape their personality based on their partner's. What do you mean by the opposite?

Your presumption of actually loving the person anyway, is odd, seeing as you advised actual lovebombing.
Also the opposite was shaping ones own personality to theirs "Also what i explained, is quire literally molding your entire personality TO HERS, not the other way around."

 

[true ascension]

Your presumption of actually loving the person anyway, is odd, seeing as you advised actual lovebombing.
Also the opposite was shaping ones own personality to theirs "Also what i explained, is quire literally molding your entire personality TO HERS, not the other way around."

Because I think that even if you love someone, you still have to do something to make that bond unbreakable, even love bombing them if necessary. That's why I made a point of distinguishing between having a woman with whom you have a shared core of values and one who has none. Because in the latter case, you won't truly love her; you'll love what you've "built’

 

[iblamejordan1]

The degeneration of our society has pushed men to passively accept, even normalizing, dynamics that shouldn't be normalized, like letting your girlfriend like other guys' photos, letting your girlfriend go clubbing with her friends while 10 other betas try to approach her and stick their disgusting 4-inch dicks in her, letting your girlfriend post half-naked photos, and more. And guess what? You're not okay with all of this? "You're insecure." I'm sorry, but I think insecurity lies precisely in accepting these kinds of dynamics because you're afraid of being alone and think you'll never find anything better than a slut who keeps you on a leash while she seeks validation.

That said, the purpose of this guide is precisely to help you avoid these kinds of dynamics. I've had 3 liters, one of which lasted four and a half years, so I've gained quite a bit of experience.
First of all, you mustn't make the mistake of looking for a woman without values and completely submissive to you. Even if she gives you dopamine, ego, and temporary control, you still won't be able to truly respect and love her, because you know that everything she does for you doesn't come from her moral compass and values, but solely from the fear of losing you. At the same time, you can't even look for a degenerate whore and hope to change her, because she'll always be a degenerate whore, and even if you were to change her, you know deep down that change is merely a matter of convenience, always tied to the fear of losing the only cuckold who has decided to accept her degeneration.
What you need to do is find a woman who seems to share your same values, who isn't a slut and who isn't a total submissive with no standards. From here on, we'll divide the escalation into two phases:

1. Idealization:
This is the initial phase, where you've just gotten to know each other. Here, you need to be very good at projecting her desires. You don't have to be a spineless idiot who goes along with everything she says, mind you. It simply means she needs to idealize you. At this stage, you should start sowing the seeds of control that you'll need later, but you have to be subtle: if you talk about other couples, for example, you point out cuckold dynamics that you don't like, but you have to do it subtly, trying to build a logical framework around it, so that she begins to question what society has always led her to believe is right and begins to see you as someone who knows better. Don't do it too much, or too often, or she'll perceive it as a red flag. You need to do it every now and then, only at the right time, keeping in mind that at this stage, the primary goal is idealization. "I've always wanted a man like him." This should be the phrase she says when talking to her friends.
At this point, you shouldn't be too territorial with her; on the contrary, show that you have options, but not in a direct way. I'm not saying you have to show her you're talking to four other sluts. Women can sense when they're dealing with a pre-selected man, so you have to do just enough, like telling her about a hypothetical friend of yours who hit on you and you rejected her, but without seeming bragging, otherwise you'll start her playing similar psychological games with you. If she does, you'll obviously react with indifference.

2. Obsession.
After you get together, she has to be literally obsessed with you. For this to happen, if you've played your cards right in the first phase, she's already obsessed with you. Here comes the hardest part: you have to keep this obsession going. You have to start alternating hot and cold, creating drama out of nothing if necessary, and then put her back on a pedestal. Believe me, she'll become literally obsessed with you, and if you think she'll still think about other guys, you're wrong. Women are emotional, and when you completely mess up their emotional brains, they won't be able to help but think about you. After a while, in every one of my relationships, I started to show my territoriality in an increasingly dominant way: I asked for their social media passwords, I deleted every single man they followed on Instagram, I asked to look through their phones from top to bottom without them batting an eyelid, etc. To achieve this, you have two ways to do it: the first is based on complicity, which is the one I prefer. You have to make her believe that giving you the passwords is a gesture of complicity, a game. Do I like other guys? You have to make her understand how sleazy it is, because you are a unique couple, above these superficial dynamics, and that she shouldn't feel the slightest attraction to any man other than you. And finally, you’ll eliminate them one by one. None of my girlfriends has ever stopped me or resisted giving me their password, and if they had, the second option would have been fear. You have to make her understand that she risks losing you. This is something I don't like, because I prefer them to think that the degenerate behaviors 90% of sluts exhibit are actually wrong. In fact, I think I'd actually walk away if she objected to something like this, but if you really want to try to compromise, you can do so through fear. Do you really think she wants to lose a high-value man who seems above superficial social dynamics, is good-looking, and also fucks her well? I don't think so, so she'll compromise.

I advise you to be careful, though, because you could end up making the relationship feel like being trapped in a cage. So if she's actually a good girl and wants to go for coffee with a friend one afternoon, there's nothing wrong with that. You simply have to avoid all the other submissive cuckold dynamics that people label as freedom of choice

Dnr but these things are prob true