Cosmetic surgery is a one-way ticket to misery

[Foreverbrad]

That’s such a huge cope
Your entire conditioning is based on what others think. That’s the only reason you (at this current state of mind) claim to not like your appearance. That and comparing yourself to others. Don’t try and claim “muh it’s for myself and I don’t care what others think” because if that were really true, you wouldn’t look in the mirror and would just do stuff you enjoyed

It’s not so much about caring what others think as caring what they do. You genuinely get held back in life because of the negative actions that follow their negative thoughts. Doing stuff you enjoy is all very well but you need money to do it and you need people to not make it hard for you.

Because the “halo effect” is a temporary thing
Maybe actually develop your character into a semi interesting and kind person. It’s time to monkmaxx, friend

Like @widdi said, I don’t want to reshape my personality just to appeal to normies. My face and body are just a vessel which I can change to suit my needs . There is nothing deep or spiritual or sacrificial about getting a surgery. It costs me less for my Trimax than an entry level new car.

 

[gunrenaissance]

You initially get treated better in lots of situations. Once people get to know you, your appearance means nothing in most situations.

that is somewhat true but being good looking with a good "personality" will always beat your face being a mess while having a good personality
looks attract and personality keeps, pretty water thing that you must have both

 

[optimisticzoomer]

whoops, my bad
i thought 'i still have a weak chin' implied its still weak after surgery

Nah I meant most of my other scrutiny of my appearance was completely delusional, and stuff that wouldn’t even have improved my appearance if I’d changed it

 

[gunrenaissance]

Nah I meant most of my other scrutiny of my appearance was completely delusional, and stuff that wouldn’t even have improved my appearance if I’d changed it

but there ARE surgeries that will change your life for the better
like Bimax if you're recessed (my case)
so its not complete cope

 

[coolman985]

You initially get treated better in lots of situations. Once people get to know you, your appearance means nothing in most situations.
I’m an advocate for monkmaxxing, but let’s say you were interesting in dating. Sex is just glorified masturbation. And any long term relationship that is dependent on you getting surgery to change your appearance is extremely shallow, and you shouldn’t be with that person out of self respect.
I believe in staying celibate until you meet the right person (pre-determinism? Not sure), and if you don’t, you stay celibate. You stay true to yourself, rather than faking it like everyone else to end up in superficial relationships cos

Once people get to know it still means a lotntis just much more subconscious people still treat u better if u look better no matter how long you have known them this is why it has been proven that parents treat better looking children better

 

[optimisticzoomer]

but there ARE surgeries that will change your life for the better
like Bimax if you're recessed (my case)
so its not complete cope

If it falls under a health surgery, it’s fine. Aka bimax to fix a breathing issue or severe malocclusion

 

[Foreverbrad]

And any long term relationship that is dependent on you getting surgery to change your appearance is extremely shallow, and you shouldn’t be with that person out of self respect.

The problem is when everyone is meeting on apps - you need mass appeal from your looks to even be seen - otherwise you are likely to just simply never meet the right person because the algorithms are geared towards superficial relationships and you will never be shown to them despite that they might have been attracted to you if they had seen you.

And it’s unclear how else you would meet high quality girls once you are past university (even school, if you did a 95%-male degree like me) apart from apps. Certainly not in clubs or bars.

Once people get to know it still means a lotntis just much more subconscious people still treat u better if u look better no matter how long you have known them this is why it has been proven that parents treat better looking children better

Yeah this is very visible for how my treatment is in my workplace now (partially ascended, treated well and given a lot of respect and also slack) vs my first job (complete subhuman, practically got bullied out of that job, every mistake was the end of the world)

 

[widdi]

It’s not so much about caring what others think as caring what they do. You genuinely get held back in life because of the negative actions that follow their negative thoughts. Doing stuff you enjoy is all very well but you need money to do it and you need people to not make it hard for you.



Like @widdi said, I don’t want to reshape my personality just to appeal to normies. My face and body are just a vessel which I can change to suit my needs . There is nothing deep or spiritual or sacrificial about getting a surgery. It costs me less for my Trimax than an entry level new car.

Also it’s such a misnomer that being popular has any real correlation with being an interesting person. Most incels have more interesting and colorful personalities than at least the average woman and probably also the average guy. And then you have people like nikola Tesla who died incel.

Politicians, whose whole job is to maximize approval and minimize detractors are pretty famous for being the opposite of genuinely interesting people. 90% of the time they just say extremely vague or water shit so that they can maximize appeal to the median person.

I don’t know what’s this trend within these spaces where people want to be as contrarian as possible so eventually they just end up saying blue pill shit that only sounds reasonable if you stay in your basement all day. Like yeah if you literally never leave your basement all this Oprah tier self love fuck everyone else type stuff might work but in the real world if most people don’t like you, it becomes a you problem.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Also it’s such a misnomer that being popular has any real correlation with being an interesting person. Most incels have more interesting and colorful personalities than at least the average woman and probably also the average guy. And then you have people like nikola Tesla who died incel.

Politicians, whose whole job is to maximize approval and minimize detractors are pretty famous for being the opposite of genuinely interesting people. 90% of the time they just say extremely vague or water shit so that they can maximize appeal to the median person.

I don’t know what’s this trend within these spaces where people want to be as contrarian as possible so eventually they just end up saying blue pill shit that only sounds reasonable if you stay in your basement all day. Like yeah if you literally never leave your basement all this Oprah tier self love fuck everyone else type stuff might work but in the real world if most people don’t like you, it becomes a you problem.

I never said being popular had to do with being interesting. You don’t need to be popular. Instead of many shallow relationships, have a few proper ones

 

[taai]

Clearpill

 

[widdi]

I never said being popular had to do with being interesting. You don’t need to be popular. Instead of many shallow relationships, have a few proper ones

Yeah you can have your fun little niche community on an incel forum or discord server but irl to advance in the corporate heirarchy and have more options in dating you need to have mass appeal lol this is literally blackpill 101 stuff!

 

[Magnus Ironblood]

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Fuck surgery. You should be Geomaxxing and seamaxxing.

 

[areayes]

why hardmax when we can never look like @areayes

Exactly, no hardmax will give u those eyes
Js pick the rope already