Could the UK military overthrow the government if they really wanted to?

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You’re ignoring that EU members as well as America under Biden may possibility intervene to aid Scotland wales and Ireland while not directly attacking England if they threaten to use nukes

eu wouldnt be able to intervene in the uk militarily. the us could but likely wouldnt risk a nuclear war, or even the massive bloodshed which would come with an invasion. they didnt even invade japan jfl.

wales will be firmly in the uk. wales is overwhelmingly pro union and large parts of wales are essentially english. any dissent would be very small scale and if it was serious it would be ruthlessly crushed. scotland could provide a platform for an invasion but as i said i think thats unlikely, and about 25% of the scottish population will fight like crazy for the union. plus theres a big military presence there and the scottish regiment is extremely right wing.

@spiderchad also the hardest part about staging a coup in the UK is Northern Ireland, you'd have to prevent and fight the IRA trying to take advantage of the power vacuum

england doesnt care about ulster. only unionist scots and ulstermen care about ulster. any military regime would only turn to ulster once their position is secured, or just abandon it. bearing in mind ulster is pretty much the only part of the country where a lot of people have serious firearms and theres almost a majority of the male population which will fight and die for britain. the ira wouldnt take over, even if we dont care if they did. ulster would just descend into sectarian warfare until the british stepped in again to sort it out, if they ever did. the irish army isnt equipped to deal with ulster terrorism.


The main issues a coup would face, presuming there isnt a us invasion, would be sanctions and minorities. the minority population doesnt identify with britain at all, and would riot on a massive scale in the event of a nationalist takeover. the army would want to avoid a violent put down in order to lessen international outrage, but resolving the issue would be difficult otherwise.

the second issue would be sanctions. britain relies on food imports and our entire economy would collapse if we were shut out of the maritime trade and international finance systems. the international establishment would go to any lengths to prevent a nationalist, anti-democratic takeover in the uk, given that it would probably be the beginning of the end for liberal democracy and internationalism, so i cant see them letting up. It would be possible to survive but more likely than not the coup would be defeated.

i also disagree that 5000 men would be enough to bring about a coup, depending on who those men were. the whole army would have to get on board after the opening stages. youd have to detain almost all of the upper officer class, take over the secret service, take over the house of commons, take control of most police forces, occupy big cities and ports etc and take over the media. thats going to require tens of thousands of men

 

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They would try to take over Northern Ireland.

this is delusional. rte had a documentary about what would happen if they invaded take the north and it ends in ireland no longer existing. ireland has no effective army and doesnt even really want the north. the irish would not invade. in the even that the northern irish state collapsed the unionist militias and reservist plus any regiments stationed in ulster would take over and, without mainlaid oversight, would look to exterminate republicans, and vice versa. but its irrelevant because ulster is irrelevant.

 

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eu wouldnt be able to intervene in the uk militarily. the us could but likely wouldnt risk a nuclear war, or even the massive bloodshed which would come with an invasion. they didnt even invade japan jfl.

wales will be firmly in the uk. wales is overwhelmingly pro union and large parts of wales are essentially english. any dissent would be very small scale and if it was serious it would be ruthlessly crushed. scotland could provide a platform for an invasion but as i said i think thats unlikely, and about 25% of the scottish population will fight like crazy for the union. plus theres a big military presence there and the scottish regiment is extremely right wing.



england doesnt care about ulster. only unionist scots and ulstermen care about ulster. any military regime would only turn to ulster once their position is secured, or just abandon it. bearing in mind ulster is pretty much the only part of the country where a lot of people have serious firearms and theres almost a majority of the male population which will fight and die for britain. the ira wouldnt take over, even if we dont care if they did. ulster would just descend into sectarian warfare until the british stepped in again to sort it out, if they ever did. the irish army isnt equipped to deal with ulster terrorism.


The main issues a coup would face, presuming there isnt a us invasion, would be sanctions and minorities. the minority population doesnt identify with britain at all, and would riot on a massive scale in the event of a nationalist takeover. the army would want to avoid a violent put down in order to lessen international outrage, but resolving the issue would be difficult otherwise.

the second issue would be sanctions. britain relies on food imports and our entire economy would collapse if we were shut out of the maritime trade and international finance systems. the international establishment would go to any lengths to prevent a nationalist, anti-democratic takeover in the uk, given that it would probably be the beginning of the end for liberal democracy and internationalism, so i cant see them letting up. It would be possible to survive but more likely than not the coup would be defeated.

i also disagree that 5000 men would be enough to bring about a coup, depending on who those men were. the whole army would have to get on board after the opening stages. youd have to detain almost all of the upper officer class, take over the secret service, take over the house of commons, take control of most police forces, occupy big cities and ports etc and take over the media. thats going to require tens of thousands of men

we would have to see how other countries react but I doubt they wouldn't be too alarmed unless it a communist Regime. Imposing a dictatorship would be the most controversial

 

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this is delusional. rte had a documentary about what would happen if they invaded take the north and it ends in ireland no longer existing. ireland has no effective army and doesnt even really want the north. the irish would not invade. in the even that the northern irish state collapsed the unionist militias and reservist plus any regiments stationed in ulster would take over and, without mainlaid oversight, would look to exterminate republicans, and vice versa. but its irrelevant because ulster is irrelevant.

The Irish would invade. And even if they didnt the IRA would start attacking. Belfast is an easy target and its port is valuable. It would also boost morale of the people

 

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we would have to see how other countries react but I doubt they wouldn't be too alarmed unless it a communist Regime. Imposing a dictatorship would be the most controversial

they would be alarmed because they cant afford nationalism and authoritarianism to become normalised in the first world

The Irish would invade. And even if they didnt the IRA would start attacking. Belfast is an easy target and its port is valuable. It would also boost morale of the people

where are you from?

the irish army wouldnt be able to deal with the protestant militias never mind british army units stationed in the north and the PSNI. ulster also isnt valuable. republican ulster is the poorest part of the republic and northern ireland is heavily dependent on subsidy from the british state. ireland wouldnt be able to afford it, which is why the southern government never does anything which would actually bring about unification, while pretending to support a 32 county republic. yeah obviously republicans would launch a campaign but they wouldnt be able to win a war against the local authorities, and without the british government restraining them their opponents would shoot to kill, which is what brought them to the table in the early 90s.

 

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they would be alarmed because they cant afford nationalism and authoritarianism to become normalised in the first world

where are you from?

the irish army wouldnt be able to deal with the protestant militias never mind british army units stationed in the north and the PSNI. ulster also isnt valuable. republican ulster is the poorest part of the republic and northern ireland is heavily dependent on subsidy from the british state. ireland wouldnt be able to afford it, which is why the southern government never does anything which would actually bring about unification, while pretending to support a 32 county republic. yeah obviously republicans would launch a campaign but they wouldnt be able to win a war against the local authorities, and without the british government restraining them their opponents would shoot to kill, which is what brought them to the table in the early 90s.

Muh protestant militias that had to be backed by the Army and still lost the troubles

 

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Muh protestant militias that had to be backed by the Army and still lost the troubles

where are you from?

 

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the ira sued for peace with the uk because so many of their men were being killed by the sas and ruc, plus mi was supply the militias with info to assassinate republicans. the british state accepted the peace because, as ive stated, ulster isnt valuable and nobody outside ulster and scotland actually wants it. if the british government was militaristic or simply wasnt involved, the unionist forces would seek to exterminate the Catholic minority with much more assets than all republican militias and the irish state combined. the british army was originally sent in to protect Catholics from protestant death squads. without the british government republicans are fucked.

its pretty obvious that youre either a larper from dublin or youre not from great britain and ireland. im second generation irish and i have republican relatives. Im a practicing Catholic. any objective person can see that neither the IRA nor the Irish republic would be able to successfully conquer ulster. the only way they could win would be by convincing the british government ulster is more trouble than its worth, and even then the british would probably have to send in troops to force ulster to join the republic.